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| Ahhh man, I miss Jiraiya... |
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| I just... don't know even how to put it. Naruto is one of my favorite stories but you can feel that the end is near in a bad way. I always thought authors who make a living out of one series, like Kishi certainly was/is, have to be extremely talented and patient to put up with one of the stories that they don't take interest in any longer. I mean... they keep writing it because to public demands, because it is popular and because it is successful, but they don't "feel" the characters anymore, they dont care as much, you can really see that they don't love the story anymore, they got bored or simply already told whatever they wanted to tell as far as storytelling goes. I feel this is what is happening to Naruto and it pains me. I guess it will always feel like unfinished because the way it was wrapped up makes too little sense and feels out of place. There is no epicness in the story anymore, I don't feel that "greatness" of characters any longer, even the reunion of the SasukexNarutoXSakura team did not have an impact.... because the storytelling simply lost its spark. Very sad. |
Morridine said: I just... don't know even how to put it. Naruto is one of my favorite stories but you can feel that the end is near in a bad way. I always thought authors who make a living out of one series, like Kishi certainly was/is, have to be extremely talented and patient to put up with one of the stories that they don't take interest in any longer. I mean... they keep writing it because to public demands, because it is popular and because it is successful, but they don't "feel" the characters anymore, they dont care as much, you can really see that they don't love the story anymore, they got bored or simply already told whatever they wanted to tell as far as storytelling goes. I feel this is what is happening to Naruto and it pains me. I guess it will always feel like unfinished because the way it was wrapped up makes too little sense and feels out of place. There is no epicness in the story anymore, I don't feel that "greatness" of characters any longer, even the reunion of the SasukexNarutoXSakura team did not have an impact.... because the storytelling simply lost its spark. Very sad. Speak for yourself please. A look literally above you, will show you that some still feel passion towards the series. And quite many loved Episode 372, and felt an impact and excitement from the reunion of team 7. And reading any of Kishimoto's latest interviews will tell you that he is still excited about his series and has a lot of love for the characters,.. Not to mention that he is really more involved in his series than ever (Being part of the Kakashi filler arc, Writing for the movie, and being involved in it, since it could be canon, writing the backstory and design for the Akatsuki in the latest game, etc) But then again, this is an extremely subjective based feeling thing, that can't even be discussed and argued in a meaningful way, and most of what is empty and baseless, and it most likely you are confusing your lack of interest and love for the series, for something inherent. |
0Gintoki_san0Aug 29, 2014 12:00 AM
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| It's interesting how the relationship between the summoner and summoned creature can have such a big difference. Naruto and Gamakichi are like friends. Sakura call Katsuyu with the suffix -sama, and shes like Sakura-chan lol which is understandable. Sasuke is like Aoda's true master, and he call him Sasuke-sama. I think its great the anime explained that Katsuyu is originally very big, and they usually only summoned a certain part of it, which explains why Sakura and T sunade can summon it at the same time. Did the manga explained this? I couldn't remember. Orochimaru is such a comical character. When he was threatening Suigetsu and Karin, his character remind me of how he's like in Naruto SD. I think i'm slowly liking Orochimaru alot haha. tsudecimo said: Awesome conversation xD You probably didn't watch Naruto SD. Orochimaru is hilarious. Okashi--chan said: I must have been watching the wrong show then Yeah you must have. |
shinki7Aug 29, 2014 12:18 AM
| The Three Way Deadlock was still good even in the present. Wind will always magnify fire. Naruto and Sasuke are compatible. Some flashbacks were shown too. I wish Jiraiya was there so that there will be two Three Way Deadlocks. This episode was a bit slow imo. |
| Jiraiya would be so proud of Naruto right now. |
| Orochimaru epicness |
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| Orochimaru made a joke! anyway I've always liked his character. His infinite desire for knowledge has always interested me and now I'd say I like him even more. Morridine said: to some extent, I agreeThere is no epicness in the story anymore, I don't feel that "greatness" of characters any longer, even the reunion of the SasukexNarutoXSakura team did not have an impact.... because the storytelling simply lost its spark. Very sad. |
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| Glad to see Orochimaru getting so much airtime now hes un-sealed we need to see him fight! |
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| I miss Jiraiya :( But yeah that was a good episode |
DarkMorpher said: Tsunade's body was cut in half and she survives. This f*cking show... That's nothing wait until later some real BS happens and manga readers know what I'm talking about. |
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| Exciting episode, Minato's naming of the jutsus is still the best though. LeftWingGuerilla said: Hiroyuki Yamashita's episode is up next week. Should be good considering he's most likely handling an action-packed episode. Interesting. Going by the preview, also watching his works, this really gets my adrenaline worked up. The animation looks too glorious. |
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laldonkaments said: And yet you try exactly to do this. Leave that girl alone dude, her post is more than legit and a lot of ppl think the same way. The storywriting gets to a point where it's so convenient and forced that it just feels wrong (and therefore bad). Kishi totally abrogates common sense and the laws of nature & physics (at least the little there was to begin with) and bends everything the way he wants the story to follow. Karin has to forgive Sazuke easily. Why? Because otherwise she would have no reason to join the war. Orochimaru, the best antagonist of the series, turns into a mere pet. Why? Otherwise noone would revive the Kage. Sazuke's attitude must be (temporary?) reset to neutral. Why? So that he can fight alongside Naruto in the war, I mean that's what all the fans are leeching for, right? Tsunade must survive. Why? Ehm... basically, nobody knows. ^^ And there are other problems aswell I don't wanna discuss about (like animation quality, powerscaling, ...). This basically adds all up to the feeling she describes. And if you read the manga you know that it'll get even worse... That's my point, genius. Interpreting ''love'' in the writing of characters and the story is a subjective feeling, yet all what she wrote had no self realization that it's just her opinion and her own experience, hence what I wrote. If she ended all what she said with ''but that's just how I feel'' I wouldn't have replied to her at all or even cared in the slightest. ''I agree with what she said because it's a negative post about a popular series that I hate, so that's why it's super legit and true XD!!111'' yeah that's what you just said. They are still in the minority, a vocal minority is still a minority, and like I said the problem I had here, was the fact that she wasn't self aware that it's her opinion, I don't see the point in implying what you write as some sort of fact, when it's clearly isn't, using ''I'' is not hard. Not really. I'm a manga reader, and I didn't feel there was any forced plot developments or conveniences like you claim. So what if Karin forgave Sasuke, what's the big deal here, it's not something big or a major plot development, that's nothing more than a nitpick. That's your opinion, Orochimaru is not the best antagonist of the series or even close imo, Orochimaru motivations towards Sasuke have been established when he summoned the Kages back, other than that, he may have ulterior motives, and reasons to be so interested in Sasuke, his earlier motivations wouldn't work now anyway, Sasuke is too strong for him now, and it seems trivial compared to the war that is going on, so Oro's character seems natural, and if anything more interesting, because he is shown in a different light. Not really, Sasuke's character was always strongly connected and heavily impacted by Itachi, the change in Sasuke happened because of Itachi, not because of Naruto, or because the author wanted Sasuke to join Naruto, not to mention that Sasuke has a lot of subtle hints that make him mysterious, and make his motivations unclear, Sasuke's desire for revenge changed was not there anymore, so him joining Naruto is not surprising in the slightest, considering they have a shared goal of saving the world, this doesn't mean they are in the same page or that they are even friends, they still have a lot of conflicting views. Why should she die is the question, what's the point of that? Naruto isn't a series that uses shock value, death is always with a purpose in mind in the series. Come up with some decent criticism and maybe waste your time on something better than bashing a popular series, because fuck it this is the internet, and being a toxic person is so cool~ |
TyrelAug 29, 2014 11:14 PM
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| Orochimaru is quickly being reduced to the role of comic relief. For fuk sake, he was once the mighty villain of this series. WTF is wrong with this series. And let's not start with Karin and her completely illogical attraction to Sasuke, or every other mess unfolding in the manga too. |
| I don't find it weird for Kishi to never kill Tsunade , she said somehow somewhere that as long as she has chakra she wont die , not in the battlefield at least , I'd worry about other plot holes if I were you people. |
| Jugo six-pack fan service much? |
BishoooDuck said: I don't find it weird for Kishi to never kill Tsunade , she said somehow somewhere that as long as she has chakra she wont die , not in the battlefield at least , I'd worry about other plot holes if I were you people. What plot holes? |
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| Ok so all the kage survived, how very unbelivably lucky. Especially when you're cut in half but ok. |
| Decent episode, honestly thought it was going to be more intense but i did enjoy it. Didn't expect Orochimaru to turn "good(?)" or be good i should say. One thing i didn't get was why aren't they showing those sexy red eyes of Saskue in this episode, their so bland and dull in this episode not that crimson blood red like normal. |
| Seems very convenient for you, since literally after the part where you supposedly stopped reading, I counter pointed your criticism, and didn't use ''oh you are hater'' as a basis for the counter point. I'm sorry but I don't use logic fallacies like ad populum, and I was pointing out that you are using that logical fallacy wrong in the first place, because that's not even the popular opinion, and reception. Come back when you actually want to discuss things, not just stir up stuff. Not that I'm surprised after taking a quick glance at your signature and profile. |
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| It's been so long I forgot about the 5 kage situation. That part of the episode was actually pretty good. The fodder 10 tails are just too large and move so extremely slow that it's uninteresting. It's way too difficult to animate very large scale battles interesting. One on one human scale battles are better done. |
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Rufeegee said: I do hope some characters will die though, because the impact of the war has been underwhelming, only a low number of nameless shinobi died and Neji, which barely had any impact either. Actually if we are talking about nameless Shinobi, then like 100K plus (I remember it being half the total number of the alliance) died in the first day of the war. There is also the intel hq, with Shikaku and Ino's dad. I personally felt the scene of Shikaku's death was really impactful, it actually made me sad tbh, and I thought the anime executed it rather well, with the silence before it happened, gave me goosebumps. |
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| The new era has begun !! Team 7 on the move !! Perfect combination !! Rasenshuriken + Susanoo's Flame control !! Jet black arrow formation zero !! The "Weirdos" in aid on the assimilated five kages !! .. Tsunade after recovering in health , also recovered her beauty ~ !! yeh !! Its nice to see the former sannins together !! .. The ever-changing .. Three-way deadlock . (especially .. jiraiya.) Patience in the wind , that blows and turns the windmill . Pretty great episode !!! Battle time next episode !! |
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| Those guys' reactions to the Katsuyu clones lol of all things, a slug lol Tsunade was cut in half...but apparently there's an app for that XD Oh snap, Orochi-Tunade fanfic moment, launching doujinshis everywhere |
link9us said: Grunbeld said: I believe when someone is cut in half, they get at least... Paralyzed?.... If not.. You know dead? The only thing stupid is the plot hole itself. No need to harass people for mentioning it. Also I know some people will use the "fiction" card, but if body anatomy was eatablished as more or less the same minus the eyes, and aura then the rest still follows world logic to some extent. There is no use trying use real world logic in a series like naruto. Maybe in the "Original series" to some extent, but definitely not shippuuden. Yeah, because the series itself broke it. It's not wise to question stuff like chakra, magic, super speed, etc, but there was no establishment that people can just be split in half because their bodies have different structures from ours except for the chakra network which still doesn't require crazy suspension of disbelief like this one. |
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| Suigetsu feeling disgusted by Katsuyu was so funny lol Sakura is amazing, I am glad Kishimoto also did some evolution in her...it was unfair to see Naruto and Sasuke getting stronger and Sakura stuck. Karin really loves Sasuke, she doesn't even care that he almost killed her! |
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DarkMorpher said:  Weirdest thing this episode LOL |
Grantnarg said: DarkMorpher said: Weirdest thing this episode LOL Orochimaru has always been weird, and that's why we all love are rightfully disgusted by him. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| Incredible, I would have to rewatch it again, since there were so many good stuff shown Orochimaru still has to win me ove as the good guy |
0Gintoki_san0 said: Speak for yourself please. A look literally above you, will show you that some still feel passion towards the series. And quite many loved Episode 372, and felt an impact and excitement from the reunion of team 7. And reading any of Kishimoto's latest interviews will tell you that he is still excited about his series and has a lot of love for the characters,.. Not to mention that he is really more involved in his series than ever (Being part of the Kakashi filler arc, Writing for the movie, and being involved in it, since it could be canon, writing the backstory and design for the Akatsuki in the latest game, etc) But then again, this is an extremely subjective based feeling thing, that can't even be discussed and argued in a meaningful way, and most of what is empty and baseless, and it most likely you are confusing your lack of interest and love for the series, for something inherent. Huh? Why so aggressive? First of all, i AM speaking for myself, I don't recall speaking about you or anyone else? Secondly, please. I'm a 27 year old adult I can pretty much tell when I am or am not confusing my own "lack of interest and love" for something that I judged as being poor quality. And my judging was done based on nothing else but the total rest of Naruto series, which I am pretty much loving from head to toe. And what I particularly don't like about the series now is how everyone conveniently got back to life and turned to the good side with some lame ass excuses. Probably the best example would be Orochimaru: I really much doubt Kishi actually planned for Oro to come back the way it did, pulling that excuse about him seeing where Kabuto was wrong... And that because there was no hint of it in the series, this plot twist alone seems like just a quick fix because someone is being in a hurry on wrapping everything up. Also, I don't fall for the Kishi being a lot more interested than ever in his story just because of some kakashi side stuff and movies and whatever. Because I know how marketing works and Naruto is simply a too huge of a deal not to consider that a lot of people, beside Kishi, make a lot of money from this show, its fillers and every other related merchandise. It is a perfect time for... well I won't say milking because I don't like the word, but you get the idea. Thirdly. If you say its damn subjective and you don't want to argue about it, why do you attack people based on clearly expressed OPINIONS? I highly doubt that my post said anything else BUT the fact that I love the story and i don't like how it's headed. Man, I really cannot stand people like yourself who put words and different meaning in the mouth of other ppl, as if they are trying to make them feel guilty for their opinions. I could also say, I couldn't care less if your standards are low. And now I got to your second post and gonna answer it too. You should be able to tell opinions apart from... uhm... lets call it fact fabrication? Because my original post actually did mention somewhere in the beginning that the premise of my entire comment was something that "i believed". So now you can revise your comment, thank you. I'm just going to be short and tell you that between the two of us, you are the only one who used phrases containing stuff like "people do that, people like that" etc etc, therefore speaking for others, not for yourself.You don't KNOW what people like or think and you should really stop, as I said before, speaking for others. You don't know how many of teh Naruto fans actually like what is happening now. And it's funny how you defend Sasuke. I especially loved what you said about him being mysterious with his reasons. Because now I can pick on it and remind you that Orochimaru was the embodiment of mysterious reasons, stuff I believe we never actually got to entirely find out because... herp derp. I mean... Oro was such a huge part of everythin, he had huge stuff developed and was doing horrendous human experiments... now he realized he was wrong because his conscience kicked watching his pet Kabuto? No, I do not see Orochimaru here. Mod Edit: Removed Baiting |
TyrelSep 4, 2014 10:26 PM
| Orochimaru was full of win this episode! |
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| Damn Tsunade surviving while cut in half is just insane. Glad she did though, and Orochimaru has finally come around, somewhat. Now we get to what phase 16 of this 47 part fight next week? |
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| And the new three way deadlock is more powerful. |
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| When Orochimaru calls you weird, you know something is seriously wrong with you! lol :D Good episode! |
| Slug Style: Censorship no Jutsu |
| My Guitar Covers: Playlist I CAN ALWAYS SHOW MY EVERYTHING TO YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUU |
| ahaha i love orochimaru. |
| Sai :this the original team 7 really no shit.lol orchimaru first time making me laugh xd |
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| the three way deadlock, pretty sick holy..... However, they tried too hard to make the other people look badass, when they simply weren't I'm sorry to say that. Suigetsu was funny as hell! WIN! We're not made out of stone, distortions will appear somewhere. ~ Orochimaru Awesome and inspiring. |
| Hahahahaha... LOL Orochimaru trying to scare Karin and Suigetsu... OH MY GAWD. Loved that scene :D |
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| Is it me or did Tsunade look a lot younger then she was previously? She almost looked as young as she was in the flashbacks. Although it might just be because she didn't have a scowl on her face for once... But yeah, while I would have liked at least one of the Kages to have died, it does make sense that they lived considering how OP Tsunade's healing ability is. If anything it's Madara's fault for not finishing them off properly, though I doubt he really cares either way. |
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