The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (light novel)
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Jan 2, 2014 12:00 PM
#801
Still not sure what the issue is. But oh well. The important thing is that Haruhi and Kyon still share the memory of Tanabata three years prior. -Arvis |
Jan 2, 2014 2:47 PM
#802
Arvis_Jaggamar said: Still not sure what the issue is. But oh well. The important thing is that Haruhi and Kyon still share the memory of Tanabata three years prior. -Arvis Why Haruhi remembers the Tanabata but Koizumi doesn't remember his powers? |
Jan 3, 2014 12:12 PM
#803
robertogl said: Ah, I see the issue now. There are any number of possible explanations (Koizumi's memories are more easily altered than Haruhi's, strength of emotion affects strength of memory, Kyon Slider Alternate Dimension nonsense, Koizumi still has his powers but keeps them secret, etc) but it would be nice to have official word. Likely it's just an oversight on the author's part.Arvis_Jaggamar said: Still not sure what the issue is. But oh well. The important thing is that Haruhi and Kyon still share the memory of Tanabata three years prior. -Arvis Why Haruhi remembers the Tanabata but Koizumi doesn't remember his powers? I'll wager this guess: the events of Tanabata are what caught the Data Integration thought Entity's attention in the first place, and Nagato needed to leave that memory alone in order keep her reality alteration stable. *shrugs* -Arvis |
Jan 3, 2014 12:38 PM
#804
Arvis_Jaggamar said: robertogl said: Ah, I see the issue now. There are any number of possible explanations (Koizumi's memories are more easily altered than Haruhi's, strength of emotion affects strength of memory, Kyon Slider Alternate Dimension nonsense, Koizumi still has his powers but keeps them secret, etc) but it would be nice to have official word. Likely it's just an oversight on the author's part.Arvis_Jaggamar said: Still not sure what the issue is. But oh well. The important thing is that Haruhi and Kyon still share the memory of Tanabata three years prior. -Arvis Why Haruhi remembers the Tanabata but Koizumi doesn't remember his powers? I'll wager this guess: the events of Tanabata are what caught the Data Integration thought Entity's attention in the first place, and Nagato needed to leave that memory alone in order keep her reality alteration stable. *shrugs* -Arvis Yes, it is possibile, but Nagato clearly says that the change had a range of one year. She could add something, I think it's just a problem that the author has not considered, but the story holds the same (you can find various excuses). (In the novel Kyon also says that is thanks to the one year-variation that Haruhi remembers the Tanabata.) |
Jan 6, 2014 6:52 AM
#805
Then perhaps it's just a matter of having the power to make Koizumi and others forget, but not powerful enough to make Haruhi forget. I'm sure if I wanted to think hard enough about it, I could find all SORTS of issues with why Asahina is just a normal girl who thinks nothing of being in the present day with seemingly no recollection of living in the distant future, even though only a year of her memories have been altered. -Arvis |
Jan 6, 2014 9:28 AM
#806
Arvis_Jaggamar said: Then perhaps it's just a matter of having the power to make Koizumi and others forget, but not powerful enough to make Haruhi forget. I'm sure if I wanted to think hard enough about it, I could find all SORTS of issues with why Asahina is just a normal girl who thinks nothing of being in the present day with seemingly no recollection of living in the distant future, even though only a year of her memories have been altered. -Arvis Yes, the problem is that if we solve one thing with a theory, we have another problem. (Why Asahina is here? If the change had a range of one year, why she doesn't remember the time travel? If the change had a range of 3 years, why she is here?) |
Jan 10, 2014 10:40 PM
#807
i come just to finish the movie and i read some commentary about the alter memory and im pretty agree with you all, there is some illogical things that happened but i think the movie was not bad overall. at least its so far better that the season 2( where i got totally killed by it) p.s i never seen a movie of 2hr45 for a anime, probably they were trying to do correctly the arc and trying to make a excellent story because of bad feed back of the season 2, i could pretty say its a success from their part |
Jan 13, 2014 3:45 PM
#808
Jan 19, 2014 2:53 PM
#809
Wow that was long... but that's way better than being too short like most anime movies. The prologue was a bit boring, but it was solid after the "disappearance". It was nice seeing long-hair-Haruhi again. It's been so long since I watched the series... this left me trying to remember those references during the time travel. @_@ |
Jan 31, 2014 11:58 PM
#810
This was really meh and forgettable. I only even continued watching through this boring, bland and mind numbing movie because I didn't have a lot of anime in my HDD and I'm out of the country and can barely get a stable internet connection. Maybe I would have appreciated it more if I actually liked a single character. It was interesting to hear Sugita in a mostly serious tone though. 6/10 |
Feb 3, 2014 8:15 AM
#811
tsudecimo said: This was really meh and forgettable. I only even continued watching through this boring, bland and mind numbing movie because I didn't have a lot of anime in my HDD and I'm out of the country and can barely get a stable internet connection. Maybe I would have appreciated it more if I actually liked a single character. It was interesting to hear Sugita in a mostly serious tone though. 6/10 It sounds like you didn't watch the series. :( Still, you could have and still not liked anybody. That's possible. There's no accounting for taste. -Arvis |
Feb 10, 2014 4:44 AM
#812
Arvis_Jaggamar said: tsudecimo said: This was really meh and forgettable. I only even continued watching through this boring, bland and mind numbing movie because I didn't have a lot of anime in my HDD and I'm out of the country and can barely get a stable internet connection. Maybe I would have appreciated it more if I actually liked a single character. It was interesting to hear Sugita in a mostly serious tone though. 6/10 It sounds like you didn't watch the series. :( Still, you could have and still not liked anybody. That's possible. There's no accounting for taste. -Arvis That's true, but if you really don't watch the series, there's no context, so you really have no legitimate way of judging the series effectively. I enjoyed the series, but the movie was something else. Finally, time skips done right... |
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Feb 11, 2014 4:41 PM
#813
This movie was great. To be honest, I found the series really meh (for me), but this movie is on a whole new level. Very very good. Loved it! |
Feb 12, 2014 10:36 PM
#814
Just finished it. Overall 9/10; the plot was a lot to take in but it was understandable. Movie added so much more character depth to Nagato and Kyon... I guess its' foreshadowing Nagato's eventual development of human emotions......aka love for Kyon :D Kyon X Nagato FTW! |
Feb 15, 2014 8:33 PM
#815
This movie was excellent plot-wise, watching it made me remember some scenes from Stein's Gate(my favorite anime). A solid 10/10. A critique of mine is the fact that Kyon and Haruhi are so hush hush about their love for one another but hey, what can I do. |
Feb 17, 2014 6:58 AM
#816
avengersaint said: A critique of mine is the fact that Kyon and Haruhi are so hush hush about their love for one another but hey, what can I do. Yes, thank you! Drives me up the wall! At one point I was SO frustrated with the two of them that I even wrote a fanfiction about how they finally get together. It was very cathartic for me. -Arvis |
Mar 3, 2014 6:41 AM
#817
So when I started watching this series I found the first season to be quite interesting but the 2nd season was a let down I would say atleast. The Endless Eight part was what really tipped me off. Well because of that I delayed the movie and kept pushing it further away and today I just got around to watching it. It was pretty average I was hoping to see a bit more romance with this but I guess not. All and all I think there should be a 3rd season or a followup movie with romance then I think I might be sold on the series but for the time being the movie gets a 8/10 from me and the total franchise gets 8.5/10 |
Mar 13, 2014 10:56 PM
#818
Mar 17, 2014 7:38 AM
#819
JetNZ said: Yuki was kind of hot in this movie. She can grab my shirt any time. Because of your pic, my mind read this in Spike Spegel's voice. It was pretty cool. Yuki definitely made me fall for her in this film. That moment Kyon hands the Lit Club application back to her just destroyed me. And I am a Haruhi x Kyon shipper all the way, too. While Yuki could never overcome my great love for Haruhi, I definitely have feels for her now. -Arvis |
Mar 28, 2014 9:39 AM
#820
Apr 1, 2014 10:21 PM
#821
Well, I don't get the romance in this anime. I was expecting Kyon x Haruhi the whole series, but in the end the best moments (IMO) were with Nagato. The "under the tree" and the kissing scenes weren't near as good as the roof scene or other sublime moments between them. I bet I only bumped this movie to a 7 because of the Kyon x Nagato scenes, since I couldn't buy a lot of stuff in the plot and in the series, I guess. Anyway, I still don't get the whole over the top hype about this show. Don't get me wrong, it's not bad (well, second season is), but it's not near as good as people claim it to be... at least that's what I think. |
Apr 16, 2014 4:54 PM
#822
SPOILER in following comment Idk if this was discussed already (i'm sure it has but i couldnt be bothered to search :P) but I understood the story up until Kyon was about to fire the dart gun on Nagato...Why did Asakura reappear, hadnt Kyon already left that distorted time space where everything was "normal"? And besides, wasn't the Asakura of that time line unaware of being a homicidal alien (unless she was faking it)? Also, did he catch Nagato when she was in the process of changing the time space? But in that case how was his stab wound healed and transported to the hospital? Nagato wouldn't have the power to do so...Unless it was Asahina that found a way to transport him somehow? Could it have been the other Kyon he saw before passing out that fixed the whole ordeal? Diid he really end up falling down the stairs and the whole ordeal was a dream from being unconscious? Or is there something I'm missing? Bottom line, this ending leaves me totally confused, but it's still an impressive movie. |
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Apr 17, 2014 4:17 AM
#823
I loved this movie! The pacing was slow but it was necessary. It made me enjoy the series and the characters in it a lot better. Kyon's narration in the seriew was a bit annoying sometimes. Hiis change in character made it a lot better for me. Oh, and Yuki was so cute :3 |
Apr 17, 2014 7:44 AM
#824
ExiledZebra said: Or is there something I'm missing? Yeah, it kinda seems like you're missing a lot. You should re-watch that scene, all your answers are there. Also: there's always the novels. They explain everything quite well and are totally awesome. -Arvis |
Apr 17, 2014 8:23 AM
#825
Great Movie! I'm not to fond of anime movies but this one was brilliant 10/10 |
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Apr 30, 2014 2:05 PM
#826
Amazing.... that's the only thing I can think of right now. |
May 12, 2014 6:42 PM
#827
the art and animation in this movie is superb.. pretty good for a 2010 movie |
Recommend me an anime |
May 12, 2014 6:44 PM
#828
great movie 10/10 simply amazing btw 99.5% of Muslims don't celebrate Mohammed's birth(finally got it out of my system) |
May 30, 2014 1:13 AM
#829
Do you think at the end when Kyon was talking about going back in time one day to correct the future for Nagato, they were actually hinting at a break before the new series, because they said something along the lines of "It may be a while until we go back in time, but we will do it, just let me have a taste of haruhi's cooking." and its been roughly 4 years, so should we expect it in the near future? (Haruhi must of cooked lots of food ;D) |
Jun 16, 2014 10:49 PM
#830
DAMN. This was a masterpiece by all means. Perfect. |
Jun 23, 2014 11:32 PM
#832
why the fuck was this so good? |
Jul 1, 2014 1:35 PM
#833
Great movie , it got me hooked up after 20 minutes although I'm not into movies . Human Nagato is cute . I wish there was another season ... Oh yeah I forgot , Haruhi with long hair > regular Haruhi . |
Jul 2, 2014 9:40 AM
#834
In my opinion, One of the best Anime Movies ever. I was hooked up at the screen for all of the 161 minutes. 10/10 |
Jul 8, 2014 5:06 PM
#835
That was a hell of a ride, Nagato was super cute in this movie. Haruhi really does look great with a ponytail. There was some pretty cool twists and turns thought out the movie as well. 10/10 |
Jul 27, 2014 3:56 PM
#836
KyoAni movie style never disappoint me.. and yeah, lovely right from the start to the finish |
Jul 29, 2014 12:39 AM
#837
open this threads again iloveyou yuki!!!! but im so sorry about her |
Aug 29, 2014 6:15 PM
#838
Just recently watched this. I watched the series first, which I thought was solid, but not amazing. But this movie was one of the best anime movies I've seen. For such a long movie (2 hours 40 mins), it certainly doesn't feel that long. Great movie, but you absolutely have to watch the series first. |
Aug 30, 2014 9:19 PM
#839
TakezoKensei said: tingy said: First of all, what a long movie @__@ like seriously. I agree with some people here that it didn't necessary have to be 2 hrs 40 min long, they could've cut down some stuff in the beginning and I'm sure it wouldn't be any less impactful or any more confusing. At least I was wide awake when watching this otherwise I might've fallen asleep during the first hour. What I really enjoyed about this movie was seeing Yuki as a normal girl, she's so adorable! Her shyness, embarrassment, and her actually showing desire, like wanting Kyon to join the Literature Club and staying over for dinner >< too cute. I also liked Haruhi in the movie, and didn't find her annoying at all unlike many times during the series. But the main reason why I really liked this movie was the themes/questions the movie asked regarding Kyon making the decision between the old and the new world, and Yuki's loneliness. This movie has a lot of stuff that could be beneficial for the Kyonism Theory, like how he's really almost playing god since he alone had the choice of whether or not to go back to the way things were. I do find it that his decision was a little selfish in a way because he wanted to go back mainly because he enjoyed the fun and exciting days with all the supernatural stuff happening, and the people he knew of course. And he made this choice knowing that he would be leaving Yuki's desire of being normal behind (and probably the fact that a world with Haruhi as god is somewhat risky). But at the same time, it's not a selfish decision because everyone else in the old world didn't get to have say, and if given a choice, I'm sure most of them would want to go back to the way it was as well (though because they don't know, I guess it wouldn't matter. As they say, ignorance is bliss). What really hit home though was just how dejected/disappointed Yuki looked with her head down, when Kyon apologized to her on the rooftop--she must've of really wanted him to choose to keep the world with her as a normal girl. Not only that, but I think the whole monologue/inner dialogue of Kyon was really well done as well, when he was making the decision, and then him walking away from Yuki's grip. It really showed how lonely Yuki was. Not even just that, but like when Yuki took interest in the star decoration and the party hat, or even back in that one episode about computers. I think part of the reason that she was malfunctioned (?) had to also do with Endless Eight, how she spent 52 years worth of time observing the almost identical eight days. And of course other things as well, but I think it would make sense if EE served a even bigger purpose. Anyways, I cried really hard in many of the Yuki moments during this movie, like when Kyon gave her back the member application, and the whole rooftop scene was just beautiful. I'm glad that Kyon told her that he would wreak havoc if the whatever entities decide to dispose of her ;__; so beautiful. Despite it being a lengthy movie, I am glad I was able to sit through it all the way to the end, because the last quarter of the movie or so was definitely worth it. It was also because I heard the movie was really good that I decided to watch the series in the first place, and I was not disappointed by the movie ^^ I don't know if it helps or not, but you might be pleased to know that this actually marks a pivot in Kyon's relationship with Nagato, as we see in the later novels of the series. After this, he does everything in his power to allow her to be as normal as possible, to be as emotionally free as possible, and he stops relying on her like he once did(which is half of what caused the movie in the first place -- Kyon's over-reliance). He dosen't really blame her at all, and beautifully acknowledges that this was partialy his fault. Him and Nagato's boss. Not only that, but it's only after Dissapearance that Kyon really starts developing some incredibly deep feelings for Nagato herself, but that's off-topic. I mean, really, Nagato was desperate, and that roof-top scene is so beautiful because it concludes that with Kyon not only choosing the Nagato he knows, and understanding her pain, but threatening her boss, just so that she could continue to exhibit emotions, because the Data Entity sure can't do shit to her now. In the end of the movie, I can't feel tooooo bad for Nagato, because after seeing Kyon promise her that he'd never let her go like that, and putting his coat over her, she kinda gets what she wanted in the normal world: care, consideration, understanding, and the ability to be emotional. without having to completely alter her own personality. Beautiful scene. Beautiful movie. Wow after more than one year I decide to revisit this thread only to see someone had actually replied me on the same day :( But yes, this info does please me. Now I'm interested in reading the LNs! I'm glad to know that this incidence causes Kyon to change, after all, I complained a little about the little character development Kyon got after season 2. |
Aug 31, 2014 8:30 PM
#840
Just re-watched the series followed by the movie and I actually really like the series and movie in particular. You really have to feel bad for Yuki and the fact that she really does deserve to be able to feel and have emotions just like anyone who isn't a humanoid intermediary of the thought entities. Glad Kyon finally realized just how special she had actually become and all the positive things that the relationships he had forged really meant to him. Probably won't be a third season, but the show is good enough to warrant one in my opinion, provided they learn to never do something like the endless eight again. |
Sep 4, 2014 5:54 AM
#841
I've concluded after this movie that the Haruhi Suzumiya series is a harem. I can't decide which of the three girls Kyon would be better with... Seriously though, great movie. I liked Yuki well enough previously, but I've come to respect her a fair bit more after this film. It was painful to watch "human" Yuki's interactions in the film... she looked so shy and so lonely. Her reactions to Kyon were adorable, but I don't think I could've tolerated seeing her looking so lonely like that for good. It was just heartbreaking! Kyon's talk with himself near the end of the movie was also fantastically done and improved my already high opinion of him. Like always, though, Itsuki is still mah main bro. Man, I really hope more of the light novels get anime adaptions. |
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Sep 21, 2014 6:57 AM
#842
Definitely waaaay better than the average series. Yuki showing emotions was aweosme. Long-haired Haruhi was so pretty. OST was amazing. But I don't get how Kyon saved the world .. He got stabbed and then suddenly he wakes up in the real world wtf |
Oct 5, 2014 8:43 AM
#843
Amazing movie 9/10, wonderfully done. Will there be another season? Is the story finished in the novels? |
Oct 8, 2014 1:15 AM
#844
Holy shit, this was so much better than the show. I'm glad I tanked my way through the parts that I absolutely hated just to see this movie |
Oct 28, 2014 5:27 PM
#845
8/10. A lot better than both seasons of the TV series and every character was more likable, especially Haruhi herself. The cinematography was excellent although I think it needed more scenes (like the last one on the rooftop). |
Nov 7, 2014 10:32 PM
#846
It's because of this film alone that I have such a high opinion of the series before it. On their own they were good, but nothing that stood out much. But my God... this movie was near perfect in so many ways, and makes every second of the series worth while! (Possibly with the exception of the Endless Eight arc, but that's another discussion) This may be one of those movies I get around to watching ever or ever other Christmas season. Solid 9/10, no questions asked! |
Dec 12, 2014 12:40 PM
#847
Movie was really good better than anime both s1 and s2 (finally some good action at the end) a lot of your unanswered confused questions about Haruhi anime are answered |
Dec 23, 2014 7:59 PM
#848
I am so glad I actually watched the season 2 before watching this movie. Finally getting to see this movie all on a sudden the ENDLESS EIGHT looks like a fitting stage for the movie. Imagine Nagato being on standby for years and then she also had to go through the 595 years doing the same thing all over again all the while remembering each and every loop. Remember Kyon noticing how bored she looked and how he tried to put himself in Nagato's shoes going through the same ordeal more than 15,000 times. The final setting was absolutely brilliant and when Nagato nodded her head on the roof top and said "Thank You" to Kyon it showed that she has definitely developed emotions. A true masterpiece. I really think to truly enjoy the movie, one has to watch both season 1 and season 2. Because it helped me enjoy the movie more, particularly the episodes of season 2. |
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Dec 24, 2014 1:21 AM
#849
Wow. That was seriously fantastic. It makes me want to raise my scores of s1 and s2 by 1 each =p Absolutely loved it! Makes me want more. I need the questions answered! 10/10 from me. |
Dec 24, 2014 9:34 PM
#850
This is like my third viewing of the movie since it's Christmas toady :DD Still love it. The art is amazing, as always (you go, KyoAni!), and it was good to see developments, especially the subtle emotion build-ups. I usually don't sit through credits, but today I did and noticed the end scene in the library. That was cute :3 9/10 |
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