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It's not recommend. It's recommended to watch Kido Keisatsu Patlabor: Early Days OVA>Patlabor1>Patlabor 2. Since the OVA establishes the the characters and their motivations, and the reason why the do some stuff in the second movie. That's what i see recommended the most at least. I'm going to watch the series in the next few days too.

I totally agree, i'll probably never watch it. " Air" too

Yeah, i get what you mean, people saying it's fucked up and disturbing, but it didn't disturb me too.

Agreed. That's what i liked about it.

I see. It is interesting imo, made in abyss i mean.

I don't think i'll watch it, since i read the manga. I think i'll watch Season 2 since it has a good fight.

I see. So you went in, expecting something like Evangelion lol. Forget it, man. I don't think you'll find anything quite like it. But maybe consider watching Texhnolyze? i think you'll like it.

Yeah, but since you already watched episode 5 and 6 where they go to see Ouzen, they kinda screwed that arc in the anime, since they dedicated an entire episode just for them traveling and that kills most of the suspense, and i think they added an anime original episode which wasn't necessary at all imo. No, actually i'm not watching, i already read the manga before the anime was announced, but i watched like 8 episodes when the anime aired and stopped, but i didn't like it as much as the manga, and the anime also stops at the best arc. Yeah, i watched 3 episodes of Madoka about a year or a year and a half ago, it's ok so far, nothing special, but the visuals are nice, although to be fair, from what i heard, it starts getting crazy later on.

Looks like you're watching Made in abyss. I suggest reading the manga instead. The anime starts messing up starting from episode 5. They messed up the pacing the arc which introduces probably the best character in the series.

Again, sorry for the late reply!

In terms of visuals, I'll just correct you there and state that there is no such thing as 'graphics' in anime. Reason being is that anime is animation, and animation is not rendered in the way that video games are. But nonetheless, both Bebop and Eva do have moments of fabulous animation, I absolutely agree. If I were to say what anime had the greatest visuals for me, I would probably point towards Ghost in the Shell/Akira/Mind Game/Kotonowa no Niwa/ A ton of ghibli films for the movie department and Mushishi/ Mononoke/ Aria the Origination/ Ojamajo Doremi/ Eureka Seven/ Hyouka are some of my favourite looking TV shows. A ton I've forgotten for sure though...

Ah I see, ghibli tends to be the first experience of the medium for most. Interesting that you didn't like death note, was it the second half that irritated you, or something else?

About the music, I wouldn't say that it is my type of album. I'm more of a listener of calmer, more atmospheric stuff in general, although I can be open to a ton of other stuff. Is that what you normally listen to?

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I can't think of anyone like that right now, but there are directors who made animation movies(not anime). and live action movies.

I give EoE a 9 (although I might reduce my score to an 8, I've not seen it in a while) because I don't take it seriously. It's got interesting ideas, some great scenes and is a fun watch. As an alternate ending however I think it makes no sense.

Are you kidding me? It's extremely obvious this is what the audience wanted. The only reason EoE exists is because Anno got death threats over the original ending which fans hated. The fact is that the first half of the movie is well received and it's giving them exactly what they wanted by making the themes easier to understand because seemingly the majority of people didn't get it the first time around. The audience want conflict, they want to see the big robots fight, they want to see some weird direct shows of romance between Shinji and one of the girls (in this case Misato). This is really obvious stuff, it plainly reels the series back to when it was simpler to comprehend for no good reason other than to appeal to a wider audience.

Well there's more to it than that. The show's main quirk is it's endless references to psychoanalysis and Freud. If we go by Freud's theories, which are referenced more in the main anime than literally anything else, then Gendo and SEELE not having a resolution to their story and therefore being dehumanised makes a lot more sense, especially from Shinji's perspective.

The simplicity is laziness for the sake of wider appeal. You cannot argue against the fact that the last 15 minutes or so are lazy, they go against the age old rule of "show, don't tell" because boy does it tell. It's not done in an creative way, there's no meaningful images during this sequence (except arguably surface level stuff), there's no quirky dialogue which ties in thematically like in the original last two episodes. It's just Anno using the characters as a platform in the most simple way possible.

I've argued with someone on here this issue before, here's why I think the original ending is better opposed to the movie in a big long rant from that discussion:

"A bit of it is because of the presentation and tone. The last few episodes of evangelion before 25 & 26 are highly cerebral and focus on the "unconscious" of the mind (as presented by the dream like train scenes). While albeit rushed, what the original ending was going for in terms of tone makes much more sense. I should make the distinction now, the worst thing about the original ending is the very last scene - had this not been included then the ending would be a lot better - and it's important to note that this final scene should not shape your perception of whatever is going on in the rest of these two episodes. The minimalist aesthetic is a personal preference of mine, and I think it reflects the nature of human instrumentality better than the flashy albeit meaningless imagery we get in the movie at points. The series really feels like it's caving in on itself along with the psyche of the cast. Also that little morphing scene with the Deluze reference to his concept "A Body without Organs", represented by the egg during this scene, for me was much more impressive visually than the movie due to it's context of still images and sometimes reused footage. And I guess this brings me onto the movie, which actually succumbs to two types of fanservice in it's two halves. The first half is the classic, action based, easy to digest narrative which is trying to remind the audience of the good old times before the series went to shit and got all emo and the cool big robots stopped fighting... I mean, there's some spectacular moments but they don't really change anything except make the character dynamics more obvious. This is thematic whiplash and the sudden grounding of the series really has no purpose except to give the audience at the time what they wanted, and it certainly feels pointless when we get onto the second half of the movie. So now we get the other type of fanservice, a much more delicate kind. What essentially happens here is Anno typed an essay on what he thought about life, contexualised it into a script loosely, and thought of some neat imagery to lay it over. Maybe you can argue he had a much more calculate approach, but it really feels like what I just described. Call it masterful, but the moment Rei and then the other open their mouths during that extended scene of people becoming individuals again, one of the worst scenes in the series begins. It is essentially exposition, the scriptwriters dumb down the same philosophical concepts they presented in the original ending (which already are dumbed down from the actual texts the reference) and lay it on a silver platter for the audience instead of using those fancy images they've been showing off for the past hour and 10 minutes to show us it and make us feel it, not just give us a lecture with no merit behind it. The way the original ending does this is by peeling back layers that the characters developed before and during the events of the entire series and referencing higher psychoanalytic concepts. For example that scene where the pilots are living a generic, perfect life. Themes of desire, the other, completion - all that nuance is thrown out and replaced with Rei presenting a bloody TED talk. This is why it is fanservice, it's appealing to a low denominator for the sake of getting across it's message the easy way. I guess you could argue that the character relationships and the fate of humanity get more of an explanation, but even then it's not much and as the original ending presents this is unnecessary information. The point of Evangelion isn't SEELE, they're meant to be cryptic and not have an explanation to where they came from and where they're apparently going. The point of Evangelion is it's core cast and the aesthetic value of the show is it's presentation of how fragile humanity through this aforementioned cast."

That one is also on my plan to watch list.