| what differences? the background art has consistently looked the same throughout the entire 3 episodes lmao, with episode 3 offering its best shots. man people really just be saying shit without actual evidence    |
| IDK, to me it looks like flat 3D with a layered base color texture + dynamic ambient occlusion (maybe baked). |
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| This is definitely not AI, what frames lead you to think it is? Try generating some similar frames yourself, you won't get nearly as consistent results. If anything, this is some of the best background art I've seen in a while. |
Call me Ren  |
Desmascarado said: This is a great time to debunk the fallacy of AI being used in anime by answering the question: "AI is not used in anime animation." AI is too inconsistent to be used in this way. The most AI that can exist in an anime is real photos being transformed into a realistic background for the anime, but this is rarely used. Finally, don't be fooled; anime producers love to say they use AI just to get the attention of investors. Furthermore, anime producers and studio owners often call AI a technology that already existed and was also used in anime. They do this for the same reason I already mentioned. With this AI business, a fallacy was created about AI in anime. Now, any animation or crooked frame is called AI, and the same happens when an episode is super well done using existing animation styles. People say it's so well done that it can only be AI. Anyway, this is all nonsense from people who don't understand, or think they understand, anime production. Ayuh, 1000% this. These types of threads are gonna keep cropping up though, you can bet on that. Also:  |
| cranky because your taste sucks, aren't you? |
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what differences? the background art has consistently looked the same throughout the entire 3 episodes lmao, with episode 3 offering its best shots.
man people really just be saying shit without actual evidence
man people really just be saying shit without actual evidence
| Okay, I love the oil painting/detailed backgrounds of this show. But it takes me out constantly because it's so different from the anime characters that occupy the world, who are drawn in a more clean and defined look. It's like seeing a 3D horse in an otherwise 2D-only anime, except you see it all the time. |
GwenpoolAug 10, 2:39 PM
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hypexleaks said:
i mean it's definitely not.. the art director is Asuka Komiyama, he's responsible for the BG art and he's worked on a ton of popular series. The Misfit of Demon King Academy, The Dungeon of Black Company, Ragna Crimson. All of those had good background art, I think this just the style of it. It's meant to look like it's a painting on a canvas, that's the uniqueness I like about this series.
i mean it's definitely not.. the art director is Asuka Komiyama, he's responsible for the BG art and he's worked on a ton of popular series. The Misfit of Demon King Academy, The Dungeon of Black Company, Ragna Crimson. All of those had good background art, I think this just the style of it. It's meant to look like it's a painting on a canvas, that's the uniqueness I like about this series.
So I wouldn’t have noticed this without seeing this post first; but in the scene where Ryo first meets the guild master, if you look at the wall with the door on it, the wall is different every time it’s shown. Sometimes it’s brick, other times it’s not. I’m not saying it *is* AI, but that lack of continuity doesn’t feel like something a human would mess up. But I’m not an animator, so I really don’t know.
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| @ArthurBedlam This is something that often occurs in animation when there are multiple people working on different scenes so not all the details remain consistent. It also happens in manga too because usually different assistants are responsible for backgrounds for different panels. Not an AI issue. |
Yoru_desu said: everything from camera work There's no such thing as camera work in animation. This is a term used in films because (duh) it requires an actual camera to film footage, either by a single cameraman or with the help of props such as dollies to provide different perspectives with motion. There are no cameras when it comes to animation, only perspective shifts made by animators. If you're going to act like you know your stuff at least get it right. |
There's no way a human capable of creating a beautiful scene like this-  -would then be confused about how many window posts to add and how to space them out... I think we need to face the fact that AI is getting really hard to distinguish. ALSO it's very easy for an artist to generate an AI image and then touch over it (edit out the obvious mistakes, etc). Which would cut a huge amount of time (saving production money) rather than making something from scratch. ): |
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There's no way a human capable of creating a beautiful scene like this-
-would then be confused about how many window posts to add and how to space them out...
I think we need to face the fact that AI is getting really hard to distinguish. ALSO it's very easy for an artist to generate an AI image and then touch over it (edit out the obvious mistakes, etc). Which would cut a huge amount of time (saving production money) rather than making something from scratch.
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-would then be confused about how many window posts to add and how to space them out...
I think we need to face the fact that AI is getting really hard to distinguish. ALSO it's very easy for an artist to generate an AI image and then touch over it (edit out the obvious mistakes, etc). Which would cut a huge amount of time (saving production money) rather than making something from scratch.
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| @kamiira Oh, they would be. I have learned that about 10+ years ago when I was a trainee for Media Conception. These posts are not to be in the focus, they have almost no importance except for the vibe. As a professional designer for commercial works, you focus on what is important. I mean just take a look at the "Metropolis" advertisement poster from Boris Bilinsky. You can see skewed, tilted, uneven spaced lines, windows, posts all over the poster. I was able to see the original Megablowup Poster in the Kupferstechermuseum in Berlin back in 2010 ot 2011. If you took a closer look (just like you did) you could even see that the print was of lowest quality I have ever seen. The layers where not placed on top of each other but had huge spacings and gaps between them. The poster was supposed to be viewed from far away. You where supposed to look at the city skyline itself. You wheren't supposed to look at tiny details, posts, windows, or check if the corners are fully aligned. The big picture is what counts. The modern addiction to pixel perfection of us viewers is one of many reasons the industry is extremely broken. People work insane unpaid over-hours and burn out, just so no one can be able to say "oh look, this window has 6 and this window has 7 posts, and they are all differently aligned. I am actually thankful they do not care and focus that hard on the pixel perfect quality of this anime. It feels a bit like Grimgar. A innocent, artsy, cozy piece of mid-level art. Not high polished AAA product. It gives the show it's own character, the thing that art is supposed to do. And that's when you are truely up to decide yourself wether you like this way of art or not. I for myself surely know I prefer this approach a lot better than the x-th high polished, soulless Isekai that covers their lack of art and uniqueness by ccringe attempts of being qUiRkY. |
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what differences? the background art has consistently looked the same throughout the entire 3 episodes lmao, with episode 3 offering its best shots.
man people really just be saying shit without actual evidence
man people really just be saying shit without actual evidence
| @hypexleaks i feel the bg art has been consistent, yes, but they're using like a photoshop filter to give it this painting/portrait bumpy texture that is lowkey distracting. it's like in every shot, and the only things that don't have that texture are things in the foreground or characters. but OP's claim of AI being used is definitely a stretc. |
Reply to kamiira
There's no way a human capable of creating a beautiful scene like this-
-would then be confused about how many window posts to add and how to space them out...
I think we need to face the fact that AI is getting really hard to distinguish. ALSO it's very easy for an artist to generate an AI image and then touch over it (edit out the obvious mistakes, etc). Which would cut a huge amount of time (saving production money) rather than making something from scratch.
):
-would then be confused about how many window posts to add and how to space them out...
I think we need to face the fact that AI is getting really hard to distinguish. ALSO it's very easy for an artist to generate an AI image and then touch over it (edit out the obvious mistakes, etc). Which would cut a huge amount of time (saving production money) rather than making something from scratch.
):
| @kamiira Lol wtf is this shit? Go watch some more anime where they give you a similar shot, you'll see how roughly they draw the background. And you are watching the anime to enjoy or to be a critic? because I don't think a normal anime enjoyer would even pay attention to that measly detail. Also AI was made to make things easier for humans. If they're using it, then what's the problem? It's not like a detail like that will change the course of the plot. |
| seriously... This "AI slop" anti-AI shit has gotten so bad... That people just instantly accuse anything being AI... . Not to mention, some top tier AI actually draws better than humans do and have no "inconsistencies". (which seems to be the "targeted evidence" for being "AI" lol) Imagine a AI with straight lines, perfect symmetry vs Humans drawings things quickly and make giggly-lines. Bet you would think the straight lines is human art huh? lol |
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I don't know if this is AI or not, but these sections in the rooftop at around the 7 minute mark of episode 3 must be mistakes, right?  |
ow + nw = 90-2000s |
| I just don't like how they make the background and shadows. Like sure, I can tolerate it, but at least make it so it would look a bit better.. idk maybe they should have put more detail the closer the background is. And when it is actually needed, to have good quality background. Otherwise it's shit |
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