Saikyou no Ousama, Nidome no Jinsei wa Nani wo Suru? Episode 2 Discussion

WOOOAHHH WOAH WOAH. I understand the animation hate. But please do not compare tbate to pedo Tensei 🙏 it's better, is more unique, has real plot later on, and isn't for pedophiles.

@Nameiswario2 "Don't compare Tbate to Mushoku tensei" Why shouldn't you? The author stole scenes, so it's not the fault of the people who notice it, but of the author who plagiarized, you can't complain about what's happening, (If you want to deny reality you can think that it's only at the beginning, but there are also others after and there are also scenes and characters stolen from Eragon, but even believing this falsehood, the copied scenes are there and you can see them, after the first season of Mushoku tensei at least a hundred other isekai came out, none of them received so much criticism because "too similar to Mushoku tensei", you should ask yourself why).
"It's better" Strongly disagree, the fact that it has more action and almost no real moral conflict for the viewer simply makes it a more enjoyable read for a young audience, but definitely not better.
"it's more unique" AHAHAHAH, sorry, that was really funny, half of the stuff in the series was stolen from books from the 2000s (read Eragon) and you call this story "Unique".
"Has real plot later" You talk about it as if "having a plot" was something special... You know that every story has a plot, right? But I guess with this comment you mean something like "tbate has a better plot than mushoku tensei"... Knowing the plot of both, no, Mushoku tensei is much better in terms of plot, as well as in terms of world building and secondary cast (I almost never hear fans of the series praise a character other than Arthur, understandable since the characters besides him have the personality I expect to find in a battle shonen).
"and isn't for pedophiles" Do I have to comment? No, better not.
To conclude, I would like to add a very simple thing, I recommend you read Mushoku tensei, it is a very instructive reading and it can really help a person improve (I know it seems strange, many people say "ah, this series changed me" but then they remain the same, but I feel that this series can really do something like that, and it is very difficult for an author to be able to write something like that), you don't even have to pay if you just want to take a look, the web novel version (ok, it is less refined and the author later released the light novel version with some very interesting additional stories) is still present on the original site and it is free and legally readable by everyone, it is in Japanese but I am sure that an English translation exists, you do not have to subscribe to a patreon to be able to read the new chapters (if you are wondering, yes, it was a reference to TurtleMe and his passion for money)

@Nameiswario2 "Don't compare Tbate to Mushoku tensei" Why shouldn't you? The author stole scenes, so it's not the fault of the people who notice it, but of the author who plagiarized, you can't complain about what's happening, (If you want to deny reality you can think that it's only at the beginning, but there are also others after and there are also scenes and characters stolen from Eragon, but even believing this falsehood, the copied scenes are there and you can see them, after the first season of Mushoku tensei at least a hundred other isekai came out, none of them received so much criticism because "too similar to Mushoku tensei", you should ask yourself why).
"It's better" Strongly disagree, the fact that it has more action and almost no real moral conflict for the viewer simply makes it a more enjoyable read for a young audience, but definitely not better.
"it's more unique" AHAHAHAH, sorry, that was really funny, half of the stuff in the series was stolen from books from the 2000s (read Eragon) and you call this story "Unique".
"Has real plot later" You talk about it as if "having a plot" was something special... You know that every story has a plot, right? But I guess with this comment you mean something like "tbate has a better plot than mushoku tensei"... Knowing the plot of both, no, Mushoku tensei is much better in terms of plot, as well as in terms of world building and secondary cast (I almost never hear fans of the series praise a character other than Arthur, understandable since the characters besides him have the personality I expect to find in a battle shonen).
"and isn't for pedophiles" Do I have to comment? No, better not.
To conclude, I would like to add a very simple thing, I recommend you read Mushoku tensei, it is a very instructive reading and it can really help a person improve (I know it seems strange, many people say "ah, this series changed me" but then they remain the same, but I feel that this series can really do something like that, and it is very difficult for an author to be able to write something like that), you don't even have to pay if you just want to take a look, the web novel version (ok, it is less refined and the author later released the light novel version with some very interesting additional stories) is still present on the original site and it is free and legally readable by everyone, it is in Japanese but I am sure that an English translation exists, you do not have to subscribe to a patreon to be able to read the new chapters (if you are wondering, yes, it was a reference to TurtleMe and his passion for money)

have you seen the animations? they're 100% not gonna get better, the show is doomed

@Geracchio Mushoku Tensei was not the original. It took generic ideas and got popular from good animation. "You should read glorified cp because it's better!!!!! it's morally deep because the main character is a pedophile"

@Geracchio Mushoku Tensei was not the original. It took generic ideas and got popular from good animation. "You should read glorified cp because it's better!!!!! it's morally deep because the main character is a pedophile"

The animation improved but its still on the ruff side. Honestly just happy this got an anime.

Yeah wow, what a dramatic ending that was, sure, whatever. But can we talk about this staff list for a second? FIVE, yes, FIVE FUCKING KAs... and 2nd KAs??? No, this is actually a joke of a production. Hell, I wouldn't even be surprised if this was yet another outsourced episode like the last... oh wait, IT IS.

I've legit never seen anything like this before... what the actual fuck. And best believe, it only having 5 KAs is very apparent, the entire action scene is just stills and speed lines. Like LOL. I guess it kinda moved when bro was running and doing pushups… but that’s it? Are we DEADASS right now? Oh, and the plot is just as copy-paste as ever from Mushoku Tensei, because I KNOW that ain't Ghislaine, right???

Delete the anime. This is just… wow.

Anything that TBATE "copied" from Mushoku Tensei was done dozens of times before and after it's release. And yeah, grey was a bad person, but rudeus is a pedophile. The problem isn't about rudeus not being a good person, it's about him not receiving repercussions for blatantly predatory behavior, and the show repeatedly showing minors and children in sexual manors.

@IzanaSolos There's only so many ways you can start an isekai. I'm basically uptodate on the TBATE light novel and there's a significant difference between this and Mushoku Tensei which I've finished reading.

Given the animation quality I'd recommend just checking the web comic (just sway your head, you'll have a similar effect) or going straight to the light novel.

@Rom-Com_lover At least for me, would be full cgi anime. But yeah, the slideshows are ridiculous

@votekick Which would you say is better. And how long are each of them?

@llcrazyacell Depends on what you're looking for.
Mushoku Tensei (MT) has more comedy and the world felt much larger. The story overall felt more open world.
Light Novel 20 books and complete. There is more talk of historical events which helps with the world building.

The Beginning After the End (TBATE) is more serious and the learning of powers feels very analytical. Not to say that's not the case with MT.
11 books but ongoing
There is technically 12 books. There is an 8.5 which I'd actually recommend reading before book 8. They're a collection of non-Arthur chapters which occur along side book 8.

TBATE I'd say peaked in books 8 and 9 and the overall direction of the story was clear by around book 5.
MT felt more episodic with each book being its own adventure with an overarching plot.

The magic in MT has broader applications and is more academic. TBATE feels more combat focused.

I'm hoping I gave you enough to think about without straight up spoiling things.

TL;DR
I think I prefer TBATE but I enjoyed MT for sure.