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Frieren is now the TOP RANKED anime in ALL major western anime ranking websites (MAL, Anilist, LiveChart, Anime-Planet, Kitsu, aniDB, and ANN). Unprecedented achievement!

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JJMatoi said:
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@JJMatoi Yes, Re:Zero will never reach the top spot because it requires at least a three-digit IQ, and most people in the world don't meet that criterion. How can something good be ranked number one when it is voted by monkeys.

Saying Frieren is better than everything else is the same as saying Marvel movies are the best movies of all time; there isn't really a difference.

You take anime too serious, just enjoy the banter.
I like Re Zero too

I am pretty sure he is just trolling on a serious level.
bcuz apparently he hate Rem.......
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Okeanix said:
Frieren is the most overrated anime of the decade, and the lack of a dedicated community for its source material is proof enough that this series only gained attention due to Madhouse's production, catering to casual viewers.

The author frequently goes on hiatus, seemingly unsure why this one-shot series even became successful.

People are watching something that was originally written as a one-shot and then extended to milk it as much as possible.

There are no foreshadowings, and the same dialogues between Himmel and Frieren are repeated throughout the entire series.

I recommend taking B12 for those with memory problems who don't realize how terrible this series is and suggest reading actual fantasy books instead.

I gotta hand to you, your dedication to this bit is low key entertaining. I wish I was that petty.
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heavily disagree that to your eternity is somehow better then frieren.
firstly to get out the way, yes both shows focus on long lived characters and struggle with interpersonal relationships, but the approach is completely diffrent. in to your eternity fushi journey focus on him from the beginning of his birth (don't know if this the right way to call it), fushi easily succeed in forming connections but has to deal with with their loss due to his long livinghood. while frieren has trouble forming those connections and understanding them due to her diffrent time preception. i don't think it's fair to compare cause of that diffrence. and imo i think frieren has a better and more suitable approach to long lived character trope, cause to your eternity whose 'mc lose a lot of people he care about' approach can exist without the long lived character trope.

to your eternity action had nothing going for it, frieren action far better.

and i don't understand how people think something only get massively popular and well rated due to production values, i won't deny it has a affect. but in that case why series like kekkai sensen or towa no quon aren't very popular and has highscores.

then there is the fact that to your eternity had massive fall off in season 2 and somehow even more fall off in the manga. while frieren still constiantly great all throughout anime and manga.

I agree that they are different bc frieren is more a lighthearted adventure story while to your eternity is a more heartbreaking story with darker themes and yeah frieren can’t compare to fushi in terms of characterization. True that the action in frieren is better but I guess I found to your eternity’s action more dramatic? If that makes sense. Mainly because they had something to protect other than just becoming a “first class mage.” I was just putting that out there because i personally preferred to your eternity in terms of watching experience (for me). Will I be obsessing over any of the characters in it? No, I hardly remember their names tbh. But I admit that frieren has more memorable characters and that’s why it grows a fan base just like every other anime. (For instance as a Mha fan I admit that my favorite part of the show is the simpable characters, shallow I know). So anyways yes frieren is more memorable than to your eternity so I can see why it’s popular and grew such a big fan base. But does it deserve to be rated a 10/10? No, in my opinion I would rate it a 7-8/10. One of the best but not the best.
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It was the right anime at the right time for sure overrated yes if this would’ve came out during jujutsu Kaisen season 2 run, you would hear nothing about it
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It was the right anime at the right time for sure overrated yes if this would’ve came out during jujutsu Kaisen season 2 run, you would hear nothing about it
Both of them were airing in the same season (fall) jujutsu kaisen Shibuya incident (Thursday) and Frieren (friday) lol. If you want to downplay some series then from next time try to atleast research about them instead of embarrassing yourself.
Jun 4, 2024 8:18 PM

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It was the same thing with oshi no ko... I do not understand what makes it so popular. I did like frieren better than oshi no ko though.
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Re Zero could never (2)
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rohan121 said:
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To get #1 Re Zero would have to replace Subaru with a pretty boy. Not going to happen despite me loving Re Zero. It is not tame enough to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

That’s what I was saying it’s not for everyone while frieren is good for a wider audience doesn’t mean it’s worst but appeals to less people
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JJMatoi said:
_Yotsugi_ said:

Yeah re zero is good but not for everyone

The first season even when it's good is not as great as the second.

But season 3 will be better
Jun 4, 2024 8:27 PM
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While there's 100% way better anime than Frieren, I'll still commend it for appealing to the common masses on this scale

Jun 4, 2024 8:53 PM
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And thank god. I was tired of seeing FMAB at the top. Definitely not as good as people say.
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I generally rationalize it as men and women enjoying it although for different reasons. It is impossible to get rated high on average if you only focus on catering to 1 sex though I prefer lower rated anime for that reason. Top rated anime means it was safe enough to not offend any group. Kind of the gross corporate endgame of esg. It is appealing to the least common denominator.
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I generally rationalize it as men and women enjoying it although for different reasons. It is impossible to get rated high on average if you only focus on catering to 1 sex though I prefer lower rated anime for that reason. Top rated anime means it was safe enough to not offend any group. Kind of the gross corporate endgame of esg. It is appealing to the least common denominator.
First you blame the high score because of it's female audience and now you are saying it is appealing to the lowest common denominator. You are trying too hard man.

It doesn't even have many female audience like jjk, other battle shounen and shoujo's atleast not as loud and thirsty as them.

Yes, it is safe enough to not offend any group because it doesn't waste it's time my including those unnecessary and stupid stuff that just lower the overrall quality of the series. Just because it's non offensive series doesn't make it's appealing to the lowest common denominator. We aren't taking about those trashy isekai, ecchi, or generic series here. Frieren is also not mainstream enough like other battle shounen outside of japan.

I have no problem with people who said it is popular because of animation. Although not completely true, but good animation definitely played a huge role in it's success. As all the popular and successful series has good animation. It's an anime medium of course animation matters. But your argument about it is catering to certain group is really weak. Frieren is literally one of the perfect examples of series that just doesn't cater to certain type of people.
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Woah, is Kitsu a Demon Slayer cult site?
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I don't give out 10s a lot and Frieren got one from me 😊
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Okeanix said:
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Same thing with many local websites of my country too. Btw wasnt okeanix saying like 4 months ago that when re zero comes it will take number 1 spot and frieren will already have a score below 9. He also said that his predictions are always correct, why is he now saying ratings dont matter anymore, i wonder what happened.

1- Re:Zero Season 3 is not out yet.
2- I said Frieren's score would go lower every month, and it did go lower, just a little slower than I expected because the anime community is dead. The 414k votes that Frieren has are really low; it needs at least 1 million.

How much would i give to see someone like thatanimesnob to have a debate with okeanix about re zero, would be such a clown fiesta from both sides.

I already proved that every take of ThatAnimeSnob about Re:Zero is objectively wrong.

Season 3 of ReZero is not going to be as good as season 1 or 2, having read the entirety of what’s available, it’s all downhill from here except for a minor uptick when they get to a certain tower.

Right now it’s undoubtedly good, but it’s not especially outstanding or important, a great show, solid 8.5 out of 10 right now, but ultimately that’s the highest it will go. It will likely never be outright bad but it will get worse
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It's so nice to be able to come together as a community and collectively clown on a well known hater while Frieren continues to succeed. Thanks @Okeanix for bringing the anime community closer and making us smile with your bad takes. If Re:Zero wasn't so mid, I'd give it a good score just for you. 😁
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It was the right anime at the right time for sure overrated yes if this would’ve came out during jujutsu Kaisen season 2 run, you would hear nothing about it
Both of them were airing in the same season (fall) jujutsu kaisen Shibuya incident (Thursday) and Frieren (friday) lol. If you want to downplay some series then from next time try to atleast research about them instead of embarrassing yourself.

Yeah, whatever they’ll be 10 others to take my place you know how these online forms go it’s the pointless battle where no one wins. good luck, playing king of the Hill with FMAB to those still fighting We shall fight on my anime list. We shall fight them on Reddit we shall fight them on Facebook We shall fight them in the YouTube comment section we shall fight them on Twitter and discord we shall never surrender!!!
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Watched both Full metal Alchemist brotherhood and Frieren gotta say fmab is absolutely better as of right now but Frieren is definitely going to beat it if the second season is as good as this one.
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Well, it is just that good I guess. Unexpectedly it also became my number 1, didn't think that would happen again after 10 years of Fairy Tail in that spot.
It's just a very refreshing story, continuing after the "big deed" is done and the characters are just lovely. I don't know how anyone could call those stereotypes, they just seem a lot more like real people than what you usually find in fantasy anime. They don't freak out at the smallest thing happening.
The show is just very relaxing to watch most of the time, has some great ideas (about the magic system for example) but still goes hard in its action scenes if it has to.
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@Okeanix Cook them. They're all wrong
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Okeanix is my favorite athlete of all time (he regularly comes to the MAL forums to professionally compete in taking the L)

When I'm in a taking an L competition but my opponent is Okeanix:

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Interestingly, these websites' user bases all show different tastes in anime, but they all somehow agree on the same top 1.


let's all thank @Okeanix for making this happen🙏

Okeanix has single-handedly dedicated more to Frieren then the rest of the population combined,
Gotta respect him for that ngl🙏🏻
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It's so nice to be able to come together as a community and collectively clown on a well known hater while Frieren continues to succeed. Thanks @Okeanix for bringing the anime community closer and making us smile with your bad takes. If Re:Zero wasn't so mid, I'd give it a good score just for you. 😁

With every Okeanix post, we come closer to achieving World Peace ✌️🕊️
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modern classic, will be remembered for ages
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Okeanix is my favorite athlete of all time (he regularly comes to the MAL forums to professionally compete in taking the L)

When I'm in a taking an L competition but my opponent is Okeanix:

@Kaitaka12 We actually might share the same braincell because I 100% thought about responding with the same meme 🤣

You are truly a man of culture 👏👏👏
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congrats to this anime
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It was the right anime at the right time for sure overrated yes if this would’ve came out during jujutsu Kaisen season 2 run, you would hear nothing about it

it did come out during jjk s2's second cour.

That was a typo. I meant Boruto.
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boqjyb-Bofrux-mi said:
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it did come out during jjk s2's second cour.

That was a typo. I meant Boruto.

I also hate when I mean to write Boruto but accidentally type Jujitsu Kaisen Season 2 instead.
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boqjyb-Bofrux-mi said:

That was a typo. I meant Boruto.

I also hate when I mean to write Boruto but accidentally type Jujitsu Kaisen Season 2 instead.

I wrote the whole JJK thing they get attention so I could say this Listen people don’t take anything in these comment sections to seriously Everybody has some sort of hot take And it’s all good Just because an anime is number one on all these list doesn’t mean you’re favorite animes un invalid. Everybody has different taste. I think people forget that.
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Zarutaku said:
@Okeanix Why this happened?

Give it a fucking rest ffs. At this point you're as annoying as they ever were.
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Zarutaku said:
@Okeanix Why this happened?

Why? because the vast majority of people love Frieren. There literally can not be another reason why.
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Okeanix said:
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Re:Zero has
- Better Characters
- Better Story
- Better Arcs
- Better World
- Better Lore
- Better Execution
- Better Voice Acting
- Better Musics
- Better Drama
- Better Mystery
- Better Thriller
- Better Writing
- Better Power System even though it's not good explained in anime adaptation because MC lacks skill and has other problems.
- Better Depth
- Better Foreshadowings
- Better Callbacks
- Better Details
- Better Peaks (not single episode of Frieren even close to Re:Zero Ep15 or Ep18)
- More Unique

Frieren has better:
- Animation
- Adaptation

The problem with Re:Zero is that, even though it does everything much better than Frieren, not everyone can understand it. Re:Zero
is a very complex and well-written series that not everyone has the capacity to grasp, unlike shounens (Frieren, Demon Slayer, and such).

Shounens are always more liked compared to seinens. Re:Zero will never be higher rated than Frieren since 100% of people can understand Frieren, while Re:Zero is a very niche, complex series that requires patience and dedication.

They also call me a Mushoku Tensei hater, but Mushoku Tensei is much, much better than Frieren.

surely you realise how pretentious and obnoxious you sound right?
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What I don't get is why not just rate it a 1 and move on? It's the most direct way to influence the score of something on MAL. Saw he only gives 10s or blank scores.
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Nice, I don't see that changing unless a new show comes around to dethrone it.
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It just got #1 on r/anime too lol https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/s/WD1si07HUQ
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It just got #1 on r/anime too lol https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/s/WD1si07HUQ
@Neterosan oh no how the usual "minority" will handle this latest blow? xd
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It just got #1 on r/anime too lol https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/s/WD1si07HUQ
@Neterosan And Re:Zero is the only anime that got 2 "Anime of the Year" in r/anime, also second highest karma holder (first is AoT)

You really think 1500 votes made by single user poll matters?

Note: I even didn't saw the poll.
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@Neterosan And Re:Zero is the only anime that got 2 "Anime of the Year" in r/anime, also second highest karma holder (first is AoT)

You really think 1500 votes made by single user poll matters?

Note: I even didn't saw the poll.
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Okeanix said:
Frieren is the most overrated anime of the decade, and the lack of a dedicated community for its source material is proof enough that this series only gained attention due to Madhouse's production, catering to casual viewers.

The author frequently goes on hiatus, seemingly unsure why this one-shot series even became successful.

People are watching something that was originally written as a one-shot and then extended to milk it as much as possible.

There are no foreshadowings, and the same dialogues between Himmel and Frieren are repeated throughout the entire series.

I recommend taking B12 for those with memory problems who don't realize how terrible this series is and suggest reading actual fantasy books instead.

at this point I don't think you actually hate the show. I think you are just doing this for fun .again frieren may not be perfect or the best show but it's still a great show period.
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Frieren fans on their way to becoming the new FMAB fans lol. But it's good you are happy
@Sports_Friday we are just posting here to see the reaction of okeanix haha
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Well this is unprecedented.

If you ask me, it's as if IMDB and Letterboxd put aside their differences and somehow both agreed that they would have the same film as #1 on their respective Top 250 Movies list.

This reminds me of the time back in 2008 when The Dark Knight was released and toppled The Godfather as the #1 movie for IMDB's Top 250. And it stayed there for at least several months, thanks in no small part due to a certain segment of the Nolan fandom online.
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I don't really get it's popularity but good for it I guess
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Okeanix said:
@taikaaaa11

Same thing with many local websites of my country too. Btw wasnt okeanix saying like 4 months ago that when re zero comes it will take number 1 spot and frieren will already have a score below 9. He also said that his predictions are always correct, why is he now saying ratings dont matter anymore, i wonder what happened.

1- Re:Zero Season 3 is not out yet.
2- I said Frieren's score would go lower every month, and it did go lower, just a little slower than I expected because the anime community is dead. The 414k votes that Frieren has are really low; it needs at least 1 million.

How much would i give to see someone like thatanimesnob to have a debate with okeanix about re zero, would be such a clown fiesta from both sides.

I already proved that every take of ThatAnimeSnob about Re:Zero is objectively wrong.

will send this ss to you in re zero discussions🤍
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Okeanix said:
Frieren is the most overrated anime of the decade, and the lack of a dedicated community for its source material is proof enough that this series only gained attention due to Madhouse's production, catering to casual viewers.

The author frequently goes on hiatus, seemingly unsure why this one-shot series even became successful.

People are watching something that was originally written as a one-shot and then extended to milk it as much as possible.

There are no foreshadowings, and the same dialogues between Himmel and Frieren are repeated throughout the entire series.

I recommend taking B12 for those with memory problems who don't realize how terrible this series is and suggest reading actual fantasy books instead.

ah the delusional contrarian is still here.
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Demon Slayer having so much presence on Kitsu is nasty
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I've been checking the toplists of various anime sites for over a decade now and can confidently say that the only way for this to be possible is due to vote manipulation, as there were never any titles that made appearances in more than three sites' Top 10s. By the way, another title that achieved a similar result is Kusuriya no Hitorigoto, which also likely only got there due to vote manipulation.


The Japanese site anikore always had the most plausible selection of top titles compared to everyone else: https://www.anikore.jp/pop_ranking/

If you were wondering, Frieren is rank 168 over there.
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I've been checking the toplists of various anime sites for over a decade now and can confidently say that the only way for this to be possible is due to vote manipulation, as there were never any titles that made appearances in more than three sites' Top 10s. By the way, another title that achieved a similar result is Kusuriya no Hitorigoto, which also likely only got there due to vote manipulation.


The Japanese site anikore always had the most plausible selection of top titles compared to everyone else: https://www.anikore.jp/pop_ranking/

If you were wondering, Frieren is rank 168 over there.
@TransferUser confidently say huh? So you should probably have some undeniable facts that prove your statement. Could you share them? Because “i have never seen something like this happen” and “well there is this website where it didnt happen” dont sound like something you that should make you feel confident about that.
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I've been checking the toplists of various anime sites for over a decade now and can confidently say that the only way for this to be possible is due to vote manipulation, as there were never any titles that made appearances in more than three sites' Top 10s. By the way, another title that achieved a similar result is Kusuriya no Hitorigoto, which also likely only got there due to vote manipulation.


The Japanese site anikore always had the most plausible selection of top titles compared to everyone else: https://www.anikore.jp/pop_ranking/

If you were wondering, Frieren is rank 168 over there.
@TransferUser bruh, am I seeing correctly? the more reliable website you sent has ratings based on 3-5 thousand votes? XDD does that mean it's more credible than MAL with 400,000 and less susceptible to your imaginary vote manipulations?
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the beginning of the anime is so fucking boring though lets be real, im surprised there are so many people that can even make it to episode 5 when it starts to get good, I was bored out of my mind
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I think the actual anime show sucks and was bored and dropped it at ep 6, but Frieren herself is cool because I nutted to her footjob porn today.
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