If you think the animation is bad, then your eyes are shit

kushakashi said:
firstly, even if people have the wrong definition of animation, their point still stands. it looks like shit.
secondly, what does you being an animator have to do with poeples opinions? i've seen people saying they dont like how redline looks and i couldn't disagree with them. (someone doesn't like dynamic shots, are you gonna tell them they're wrong?)
and finally, will it solve any problem if go to every haters door and explain to them that what they hate isn't the animation but the character models and the new artstyle? i imagine they'll go something like, 'k but i still hate it'. so i efectively wouldn't solve anything.

side note: i dont get why THIS gets this kind of treatment. people try to hate on everything everytime something new comes along (i myself am a bright example of that) so why does jjk get this fan shield around it? as i see it, the anime didn't last nearly long enough to cultivate such crazy fans, and manga readers usually dont care too deeply about the anime so, why?

kushakashi said:
firstly, even if people have the wrong definition of animation, their point still stands. it looks like shit.
secondly, what does you being an animator have to do with poeples opinions? i've seen people saying they dont like how redline looks and i couldn't disagree with them. (someone doesn't like dynamic shots, are you gonna tell them they're wrong?)
and finally, will it solve any problem if go to every haters door and explain to them that what they hate isn't the animation but the character models and the new artstyle? i imagine they'll go something like, 'k but i still hate it'. so i efectively wouldn't solve anything.

side note: i dont get why THIS gets this kind of treatment. people try to hate on everything everytime something new comes along (i myself am a bright example of that) so why does jjk get this fan shield around it? as i see it, the anime didn't last nearly long enough to cultivate such crazy fans, and manga readers usually dont care too deeply about the anime so, why?

sssmaraaa said:

I have no disagreements about your main point, I believe the discussion around animation is a style issue, but I just wanna say, about your side note - literally every fandom gets defensive about attacks to their fave anime my guy, the way jjk fans are moving is really nothing surprising. Every fandom of significant size will make posts like this to address random issues. Be it animation or whatever. Nothing new under the sun.

kushakashi said:
firstly, even if people have the wrong definition of animation, their point still stands. it looks like shit.
secondly, what does you being an animator have to do with poeples opinions? i've seen people saying they dont like how redline looks and i couldn't disagree with them. (someone doesn't like dynamic shots, are you gonna tell them they're wrong?)
and finally, will it solve any problem if go to every haters door and explain to them that what they hate isn't the animation but the character models and the new artstyle? i imagine they'll go something like, 'k but i still hate it'. so i efectively wouldn't solve anything.

side note: i dont get why THIS gets this kind of treatment. people try to hate on everything everytime something new comes along (i myself am a bright example of that) so why does jjk get this fan shield around it? as i see it, the anime didn't last nearly long enough to cultivate such crazy fans, and manga readers usually dont care too deeply about the anime so, why?

HEBI_TAN said:
I don't understand the unnecessary hate on every fucking MAPPA's work. I know they're going to a more simple artstyle, but IT DOESN'T MEAN THE ANIMATION IS BAD

If you're saying I am saying nonsense, I am an animator, currently working on a small studio, and I am used to be a 2d animator before going to 3d.
Artwork and animation are 2 separate things. Artwork focuses more on the art/painting/drawing, since they're not moving. Animation focuses more on the movements. Unlike drawing, you need to draw more than 1 drawing, which is really painful to do. What they could do to NOT LET THEIR WORKERS DIE is making THE ARTSTYLE MORE SIMPLE. With less details, they can focuses more on ANGLES, CAMERA WORKS, CHOREOGRAPHY, AND MORE. They need to make more INTERESTING ANGLES more than just BLINKY SKY EYES THAT GOT COVERED OVER A FUCKING SUNGLASSES.

If you still shit on this anime's animation, show me your best painting and try to make a 2 minutes animation of it. Don't forget to use 12 principles of animation and also nice angle of camera on em or your animation will be fucked up. Don't forget to add the *details* like highlight and shadows, make sure to not let any single frame off model and try to make everytime you pause, it will still look like a single piece of painting.

Confused_99 said:

So it's wrong to try to defend what you like for wrong reasons?

kushakashi said:

it might be cuz im not involved enough in jjk circles but i see far fewer attackers than defenders. so after a while, it's like people are trying to defend against their imaginary enemies. for every other fandom, it starts by elites hating then normies defending, but for this one, it's everyone defending with a few off hand comments just mentioning that they didn't like it.

and for clarity's sake, i dont have a stance on this. i tried to read jjk before the first season got announced and i couldn't get through it. (it had all the problems of CSM but worse) so most likely, i wont even watch this season.

TChaff said:
Episode 1 looked really great until they used CGI. All the CGI that episode was god awful and really worries me going forward.

HEBI_TAN said:
If you still shit on this anime's animation, show me your best painting and try to make a 2 minutes animation of it

Theo1899 said:

Maybe you are right about the animation (dunno haven't watched yet) but that's the weakest of arguments.

DrkSeid69 said:
average MAPPA related thread, full of shit takes regarding animation

kushakashi said:
i've seen people saying they dont like how redline looks and i couldn't disagree with them. (someone doesn't like dynamic shots, are you gonna tell them they're wrong?)

Igsusboznxjd said:
Animation is garbage compared to season1....but still its okay

sayu-simp said:
pov: you can't accept negative opinions that contradict your opinions. whether or not animation is good is purely subjective for everyone. you'd be a clown to criticise the small minority that dislike animation purely because you can't accept that some animations don't meet everyone's personal criteria of "good animation"

and just because someone can't animate or produce art does not invalidate their opinion otherwise the vast majority of anime watchers' opinions would be invalid.

Mimidou said:
Wait good animation is actually subjective, so Kyoani aren't better animator than Jc.staff ? Roger that

Mimidou said:
Yes ok, Food wars is a better animated show than Mob psycho and if you think otherwise it's subjective