Curious how they are going to fix the story

Jul 5, 2023 12:43 PM

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Damn, thank you for all this, I had no idea. This definitely makes the end of the 1st season make a lot more sense. Cut content, while sometimes understandable, is a really annoying part of anime adaptations :(

Jul 5, 2023 1:22 PM

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Moppit

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Mostly just wait and see. In the manga as far been translated he just been doing nothing but busy work. So it's been boring to read. I keep wanting to see him meet up with his high school friend. Where I live don't sell the manga or LN. So it's been a slow burner for me to wait on updates.

Jul 5, 2023 1:34 PM

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RobertsahDHDA

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Fix what? It was meh to begin with. Even the source material.

Keep scrolling

Jul 5, 2023 2:04 PM

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Moppit said:
Mostly just wait and see. In the manga as far been translated he just been doing nothing but busy work. So it's been boring to read. I keep wanting to see him meet up with his high school friend. Where I live don't sell the manga or LN. So it's been a slow burner for me to wait on updates.

Hell will freeze over before the LN is licensed internationally so you might as well just read the WN instead. I believe it’s at about 460 chapters now

Jul 5, 2023 2:43 PM

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That's sad ti hear. I prefer to support it by buying the light novels but it not ever planning international.

Jul 5, 2023 2:59 PM

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Leaf_It said:
For those that are anime only, in the Light Novel, web novel and Manga, there are 2 other people from earth that are also brought into the other world at the same time as Makoto. The story cuts back to them occasionally throughout the story. While it gives far more time to Makoto than the other 2, they play major roles in the overall plot. Season 1 cut them out entirely. Additionally, the order of things in the last 3 episodes is really jumbled, and skips about 10 - 15 chapters, (of the manga) so that they can put the big fight right at the end, instead of where it would have sat, towards end of season 2. If they had not skipped anything, they could have ended at around the same point at the end of season 2 with 24 episodes. They are now going to have to focus a lot of time on the other 2 heros, which were generally less interesting, so that they can get them caught up to where Makoto is in the story.

Here's a rough descriptions of what was changed or skipped:

• Most of Makoto's side of the story was told, but they skipped almost all of Makoto's flash blacks to his life on Earth, and anything to do with the other people that were brought back from earth.
• If they had wanted to skip the other Hero's side of things without jumbling the order or events, or skipping anything, they would have ended shortly after Makoto kills the 3 adventures for attacking the residents of the demiplane, and stealing from the village in the fog. That event played a larger role originally.
• Makoto initially does not want to let the Forest Ogres into the demiplane, because they have magic that can turn people into trees, which they tried to cast on him when they shook his hand shortly after coming to the Forest Ogre's village. They don't have the ability to undo the change, and the people affected are stuck as trees forever, still alive, and aware of everything, but silently suffer until loosing their mind. Makoto doesn't want the Forest Ogres to join the demiplane until they can figure out how to reverse this magic, as he considers it a punishment worse than death. Tomoe convinces Makoto to allow some of the Forest Ogres by promising to train and test them to see if they are worthy of joining the demiplane. The Forest Ogres have a whole mini training arc after this.
• The store is Tsige is opened shortly after a few of the Forest Ogres are allowed permanent residence in the demiplane, and Eris and Aqua are hired as employees at the store.
• while this point is loosely covered in the anime, I want to cover it here to help the time line of events make sense. After opening the Shop in Tsige, Makoto wants to learn the basics of magic as they are taught in schools in this world, and decides to attend an Academy in a city called Rotsgard. Rembrant even writes him a letter of recommendation. This involves Shiki and Makoto to use a staggered series of teleportation circles ran by cities as a means of public transportation. During these travels Makoto saves a village from a raid of 80 bandits, and befriends a werewolf boy. The Goddess steals Makoto during the teleportation sequence at one of the towns along the way, leaving Shiki alone.
• When Mokato is initially teleported by the goddess, Shiki, Tomoe, and Mio are cut off from him, which causes them to panic. They only know that he is alive, because their contracts are still intact.
• Shiki used hypnosis on every human at, and around the teleportation circles they where at when this happened to find out anything he could, but all he found was that a golden colored mana was used. He then continued to travel towards the Academy, so that Shiki could open a gateway to the Demiplane, and Makoto could still be on schedule in his travels to the academy once he returned.
• Tomoe went to question a Dragon who's mana is the same golden color as the Goddess's, and that would have had the power to steal Makoto as well.
• Mio was ordered to stay in the Demiplane, because the most likely way that Makoto would return, was by opening a gateway into the Demiplane, and they wanted someone strong to be there in case Makoto needed any kind of help when he returned.
• They could have had over half an episode just about what they were doing to try and find Makoto, and to make sure his plans weren't ruined when he came back to them.
• Makoto already knew about the Demon War, (especially considering the Demons were the reason he was summoned to that world in the first place) and through his merchant business had learned that a battle would be taking place soon. We would know a lot more about the battle, it's participants, and it's significance to the world, if the anime had not cut everything to do with the other heros.
• When he used his weapon to block/break Sophia's Sword, it was because of reflexes developed through training he had done with his Archery instructor back on Earth when he was younger. His parents had him trained in archery from age 5, and his school wanted him to be the archery club president because of how good he was, but he refused, though he later agreed to be vice president. There's several flash backs to his archery instructor throughout the series, which are important to Makoto's background and character motivations, that are completely gone in the anime.
• When Makoto enters the demiplane after the fight with Sophia, they have a hard time healing him because of his lack of affinity with healing magic.
• When Makoto wakes up, he doesn't want to wake up Mio or Tomoe, so he telepathically talks to Shiki about what happened until they wake up.
• Ideally they would have saved Sophia's fight for after we saw the other Hero's sides of the story, so that the gravity of the situation Makoto was teleported to by the goddess was understood. The battle taking place nearby is the culmination of the arcs the other 2 heros were having. They very likely did not expect to get a season 2, so they skipped around to have a more impactful ending to the season.

I really like this story, so i was pretty disappointed by how the anime ended things.

I actually do not think it is a problem.

The first season made sense and finished well.

This new season will just need to expand the story to incorporate those others that were isekai-ed also.

It really depends on how they do it.

Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Jul 5, 2023 4:38 PM

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RobertsahDHDA said:
Fix what? It was meh to begin with. Even the source material.

I never understand comments like yours. People come in and say they think something it boring, and the source material is boring. Okay? So why are you in here posting about it? Just rate it a 5/10 a move on. What gets you so invested that you start going through the forum threads of series you don't even like?

Jul 6, 2023 9:56 AM

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I want to know when it's going to release

Jul 6, 2023 11:11 PM

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I was an anime only and had no idea about all this
damn
why can't animes just stick to adapting the manga 1 to 1

Jul 8, 2023 8:39 PM

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Homura24 said:
I was an anime only and had no idea about all this
damn
why can't animes just stick to adapting the manga 1 to 1

I don't think it's always best to adapt 1 to 1. Animation is a different medium, so not everything works as well in animation. Some things work far better in a written or drawn form. What's important is staying true to the spirit of what the author was trying to do. That usually means minimal changes, but sometimes things that don't work as well in a novel, or manga can work really well in animation. They may be rare, but when a studio really gets it right, they can even improve the experience of the story through animation.
Tsukimichi is not an example of improving upon a story through animation. With all the cuts they made, and the all the things they skipped, they barely captured most things that made this story great. They didn't just skip the other 2 heros (which honestly, I can understand, they aren't nearly as entertaining) they also skipped, and towards the end rearranged, Makoto's story. This anime adaptation was not made to have a season 2. It was made to end, and never be continued. This is why I say that I wonder how they are going to fix it. My hopes are high, but my expectations are rock bottom.

Jul 11, 2023 1:29 PM

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Leaf_It said:

RobertsahDHDA said:
Fix what? It was meh to begin with. Even the source material.

I never understand comments like yours. People come in and say they think something it boring, and the source material is boring. Okay? So why are you in here posting about it? Just rate it a 5/10 a move on. What gets you so invested that you start going through the forum threads of series you don't even like?

welcome to MAL forums !
and never read reviews, it's mostly people who dislike anime with anger and elitism.
it looks like Twitter here sometimes ...

Jul 11, 2023 3:16 PM

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There is nothing to fix. They let you know since episode 1 that the goddess has already found 'other replacements', and we get a reminded in the last episode. They'll simply (probably) do a supercut of the other 2 heroes experiences during the second season and call it a day. It's not even particularly important for their PoV to be shown alongside Makoto's timeline-wise until quite later on.

Jul 13, 2023 6:06 AM

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Now that we have news on the 2nd season being 2 cours (20+ episodes), I think they'll begin the season with the heroes' backstory. They'll probably adapt it in like first 3-5 episodes and then we'll move to the school arc.

Nov 9, 2023 2:34 AM

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Leaf_It said:
For those that are anime only, in the Light Novel, web novel and Manga, there are 2 other people from earth that are also brought into the other world at the same time as Makoto. The story cuts back to them occasionally throughout the story. While it gives far more time to Makoto than the other 2, they play major roles in the overall plot. Season 1 cut them out entirely. Additionally, the order of things in the last 3 episodes is really jumbled, and skips about 10 - 15 chapters, (of the manga) so that they can put the big fight right at the end, instead of where it would have sat, towards end of season 2. If they had not skipped anything, they could have ended at around the same point at the end of season 2 with 24 episodes. They are now going to have to focus a lot of time on the other 2 heros, which were generally less interesting, so that they can get them caught up to where Makoto is in the story.

Here's a rough descriptions of what was changed or skipped:

• Most of Makoto's side of the story was told, but they skipped almost all of Makoto's flash blacks to his life on Earth, and anything to do with the other people that were brought back from earth.
• If they had wanted to skip the other Hero's side of things without jumbling the order or events, or skipping anything, they would have ended shortly after Makoto kills the 3 adventures for attacking the residents of the demiplane, and stealing from the village in the fog. That event played a larger role originally.
• Makoto initially does not want to let the Forest Ogres into the demiplane, because they have magic that can turn people into trees, which they tried to cast on him when they shook his hand shortly after coming to the Forest Ogre's village. They don't have the ability to undo the change, and the people affected are stuck as trees forever, still alive, and aware of everything, but silently suffer until loosing their mind. Makoto doesn't want the Forest Ogres to join the demiplane until they can figure out how to reverse this magic, as he considers it a punishment worse than death. Tomoe convinces Makoto to allow some of the Forest Ogres by promising to train and test them to see if they are worthy of joining the demiplane. The Forest Ogres have a whole mini training arc after this.
• The store is Tsige is opened shortly after a few of the Forest Ogres are allowed permanent residence in the demiplane, and Eris and Aqua are hired as employees at the store.
• while this point is loosely covered in the anime, I want to cover it here to help the time line of events make sense. After opening the Shop in Tsige, Makoto wants to learn the basics of magic as they are taught in schools in this world, and decides to attend an Academy in a city called Rotsgard. Rembrant even writes him a letter of recommendation. This involves Shiki and Makoto to use a staggered series of teleportation circles ran by cities as a means of public transportation. During these travels Makoto saves a village from a raid of 80 bandits, and befriends a werewolf boy. The Goddess steals Makoto during the teleportation sequence at one of the towns along the way, leaving Shiki alone.
• When Mokato is initially teleported by the goddess, Shiki, Tomoe, and Mio are cut off from him, which causes them to panic. They only know that he is alive, because their contracts are still intact.
• Shiki used hypnosis on every human at, and around the teleportation circles they where at when this happened to find out anything he could, but all he found was that a golden colored mana was used. He then continued to travel towards the Academy, so that Shiki could open a gateway to the Demiplane, and Makoto could still be on schedule in his travels to the academy once he returned.
• Tomoe went to question a Dragon who's mana is the same golden color as the Goddess's, and that would have had the power to steal Makoto as well.
• Mio was ordered to stay in the Demiplane, because the most likely way that Makoto would return, was by opening a gateway into the Demiplane, and they wanted someone strong to be there in case Makoto needed any kind of help when he returned.
• They could have had over half an episode just about what they were doing to try and find Makoto, and to make sure his plans weren't ruined when he came back to them.
• Makoto already knew about the Demon War, (especially considering the Demons were the reason he was summoned to that world in the first place) and through his merchant business had learned that a battle would be taking place soon. We would know a lot more about the battle, it's participants, and it's significance to the world, if the anime had not cut everything to do with the other heros.
• When he used his weapon to block/break Sophia's Sword, it was because of reflexes developed through training he had done with his Archery instructor back on Earth when he was younger. His parents had him trained in archery from age 5, and his school wanted him to be the archery club president because of how good he was, but he refused, though he later agreed to be vice president. There's several flash backs to his archery instructor throughout the series, which are important to Makoto's background and character motivations, that are completely gone in the anime.
• When Makoto enters the demiplane after the fight with Sophia, they have a hard time healing him because of his lack of affinity with healing magic.
• When Makoto wakes up, he doesn't want to wake up Mio or Tomoe, so he telepathically talks to Shiki about what happened until they wake up.
• Ideally they would have saved Sophia's fight for after we saw the other Hero's sides of the story, so that the gravity of the situation Makoto was teleported to by the goddess was understood. The battle taking place nearby is the culmination of the arcs the other 2 heros were having. They very likely did not expect to get a season 2, so they skipped around to have a more impactful ending to the season.

I really like this story, so i was pretty disappointed by how the anime ended things.

How to fix? retcon retcon retcon.

If the biggest problems are cut content they can probably add some of it back in where it might make sense, or otherwise.. just be more accurate going forwards.

Nov 23, 2023 5:52 AM

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Leaf_It said:
the other 2 heros, which were generally less interesting

I disagree.
I am actually interested on their side storyline as well.
Yeah, I was also disappointed as they skipped some chapters and scenes, but what can we do about it...
We can only hope for a much better animation for S2.
Tbf, I actually like S1, but disappointed at some aspect.

It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.

Nov 24, 2023 10:14 AM

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Reply to ASinfulPersonage

Leaf_It said:
the other 2 heros, which were generally less interesting

I disagree.
I am actually interested on their side storyline as well.
Yeah, I was also disappointed as they skipped some chapters and scenes, but what can we do about it...
We can only hope for a much better animation for S2.
Tbf, I actually like S1, but disappointed at some aspect.

@astralkill00 I am interested in their story too, but less so than Makoto's. Most readers didn't care very much about them, and it is pretty typical for people to say that the story would better without therm.

Dec 6, 2023 2:57 AM

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Trailers show that other summoned are in this season

Dec 28, 2023 7:16 PM

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Sinom

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This story's main conflict for a lot of it is a clashing of the ideals and mentalities of the 3 reincarnated people, Makoto and the other two heroes. The other two are also really interesting on their own, and will then start interacting with Makoto's story more and more for various reasons I don't want to spoil. This story would simply not work later on without the other two heroes so it's good that they aren't completely cutting them out.

Dec 31, 2023 4:03 PM

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Ya they have to include them this season especially since they play important roles going fforward. Hope they don't half ass it.

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Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
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