No dedicated Japanese speaking board/sticky here?

MalchikRepaid said:
It would be difficult managing a forum with more than one language.

beloved_elysia23 said:
To be honest right away, I study Japanese in regular schooling system as part of my high school education in a special grammar language school in my country. By far my I think that my level would be somehwere between Beginner and Intermiediate by how far I've been studying (so I guess it would be equal to N4 on JLPT tests). By far I don't have any diffculity with pronouncing neither with grammar since it seems logical to me, only one problem for me is get to write kanji since my handwriting and drawing skills aren't the perfect ones. 

ohadezu said:
this is an english speaking forum/site so it would be a mess incorporating other languages here

XiaXueYi said:
Well to my understanding,if the mods thought it wouldn’t end up a problem (but probably too much effort lol) usually a forum would just sticky or create a sub for that language only.

MalchikRepaid said:
But it would be extremely difficult to find a dedicated bilinguially English and Japanese moderator. When I studied Korean, I used a bilingual English and Korean forum and I regretted using it as Korean trolls posted a lot of dodgy p-rn when the moderator went missing.

MalchikRepaid said:
@XiaXueYi

This is funny because I studied Korean as a way for me to ease my Japanese language acquisition in the near future. Learning Korean first makes learning Japanese much easier.

But I have relatives who do business with North Korean state enterprises, like actual ones running by people from Pyongyang, so it's not something wasteful for me. I already can read Japanese decently thanks to this, but I'm still not used to seeing verbs at the end of sentences.

DreamingBeats said:
There are a few clubs made specifically for people interested in the Japanese language.
https://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=73836
https://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=641
https://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=8426

they are not very active though

Zettaiken said:
I think you should focus on visiting the Japanese sites/forums/pixiv instead of being here like people said there are alot of people including me who are not native-speakers of English, not to mention Japanese. I can't even tell how many grammar mistakes I am doing within English, wouldn't have problems with writing in Polish.

Can't help with Japanese I only had 3 years of weak quality sessions with JP Native Speakers for each year a different one and 2 of them couldn't even speak any other language than Japanesee.

My experience -> I've achieved back than as now I don't remember them. So back than I was able to say some basic A0 level maybe A1 level sentences, I was capable of writing everything in Hiragana, I was still struggling with Katakana and I did not even memorise a single Kanji. Proununcing was very easy for me, maybe because Polish is a very tough/difficult language and it actually makes me easier to say stuff in other langs. In writing I was struggling alot as the sentences were built different than in English/Polish which was not intuitial for me. Listening, well I sometimes even watch anime raw without subs when I am hyped, if I need to listen/hear I'd be capable of it, just I won't be able to say where the word begins and ends.
Outside that I only also know since childhood how to count to around millions in Japanese, mainly because I've been in Aikido trainings as a kid for 5-7 years and knowing how to count in Japanese, saying Right/Left/Forward/Behind was simply a must, back than I was also knowing some other words due to techniques names but now only counting and those 4 directions are stuck in my heard till death
[A and forgot also about "Thank You Very Much", which we always had to say before the end of training, there was also something which we had to say while entering the training hall but we were always skipping it so I don't remember that x) - Because of 2 variations, I was always saying the "Arigatou Gozaimashita" not Gozaimasen which we were not using in the Aikido Club I was in/ Idk what's the difference between them btw/].

yarwe said:
im taking n2 this july

99% of weebs that learn japanese gave up on it so it isnt a surprise?

XiaXueYi said:
Chinese and Korean do learn Japanese easier due to similar syntax, yes

MalchikRepaid said:
Not for Chinese. Chinese is subject-verb-object like in English, while Japanese is subject-object-verb. Perhaps from what you said, Japanese words of Chinese origin retain Chinese syntax.

XiaXueYi said:
kanji is a huge part of Japanese and a lot of mandarin users use it to cheese the early game, but yeah because Japanese has unique grammar + some words are not the same meaning the cheesing only works to a certain extent.

sauce: mandarin 2nd language user

MalchikRepaid said:
I'm saying this more from a Classical Chinese perspective. Japanese words of Chinese origin is closer to pre-Meiji era Classical Chinese used in Japan at that time.

(I'm more of a first language speaker for Mandarin, but I still understand my father's dialect like a preschooler.)

That being said, during the Yuan dynasty, some of the Chinese language creoles in northern China were like Japanese grammar-wise.

XiaXueYi said:

I personally hate dialects with a passion lol they're practically an additional language to learn. Some trains of thought think of it as destroying historical culture but without language standardisation, civilisation would have come to a standstill.

MalchikRepaid said:
I don't mind dialects. They are a part of the Chinese heritage. Even my father learned how to speak Shanghaiese because he is an obsessive fan of Shanghaiese opera. And the Shanghaise dialect of Chinese often sounds almost similar to on'yomi in Japanese kanji.

MeanMrMusician said:
Nah, just because someone is a weeb doesn't mean they know Japanese. I only know a handful of users who actually speak Japanese.

My-T said:
Well learning Japanese isn't easy. I like anime/manga culture but it's not like i plan to live in Japan. It's not really that appealing for me to learn a language just for the sake of watching content or maybe visit the country for a couple weeks only. That's too much energy to waste on learning a language with little reward. Specially considering how Japanese people are well known to be super reserved, introverted and just politely decline your friendship. Even if you learn Japanese and try to talk to a local there, they will straight up try speaking in English or assume you don't know japanese anyways or just say that they don't understand you. Watch some youtube video on how foreigners are treated in japan, it's no joke. Nothing against japanese but that's the reputation they have globally. They are polite, but not your friends. 
So because of the high effort and low reward, i don't see why anyone would want to learn japanese unless they have a lot of free time and enjoy learning languages. Which is fine to do, have fun. 

Moonlitboy said:
I learnt japanese through anime & music pretty much so i can speak and understand it but i cant read or write it well. I've tried multiple times reading manga raw but its too frustrating. 

I'm cool with being japanese learning buddies pick me if you still need someone! & currently i am reading uchuu kyodai but not in japanese just translated into english. 

XiaXueYi said:
I personally hate dialects with a passion lol they're practically an additional language to learn.

XiaXueYi said:


ok wow the speaking/listening part is actually more difficult for most people. Guess you learnt it almost like a local would. but very little overlap with writing as you experienced :x

katsucats said:
And yeah, kanji is easy for Chinese/Koreans.

traed said:
There probably wouldnt be enough users to keep it going because Japan has their own anime tracking site and you would need mods that can speak Japanese fluently. MAL used to have an Asian Drama board way back and it was shut down from inactivity.

Moonlitboy said:
Languages are surprisingly easy to learn. & even a disadvantage of not being able to read well isn't so bad cuz you can get written stuff transliterated. Thats how i've been using japanese twitter and getting bit by bit better at reading but if i wasnt so lazy i could just spend time and read it myself and have learnt to read already. How long have you been reading manga raw for?

katsucats said:
As traed said, it's a moderation issue, since it would be hard for the staff to tell what's appropriate in multiple languages.

And yeah, kanji is easy for Chinese/Koreans. Being American born with a probably 1st grade level of recognizing Chinese characters, I can often guess what Japanese words are from the context.

Reading Japanese would be extremely tedious without kanji since there are no sentence breaks. But writing is probably unnecessary unless it's for an academic or business reason. Even in Asia, I'm guessing most of the time you're going to write something, it will be by spelling it out and picking the correct character from a list using a Chinese/Japanese keyboard. Recall and recognition are two completely different types of memory. Having one doesn't necessarily benefit the other. You could somehow reproduce kanji from memory and that might not even help you recognize what that word means. On the other hand, recognizing a word doesn't allow you to automatically reproduce it even if you just saw it a second ago. So in my opinion, if I were to try to learn/relearn an Asian language, I wouldn't bother with memorizing the reproduction of characters if my goal was to be able to communicate with people quickly.

My-T said:
Well learning Japanese isn't easy. I like anime/manga culture but it's not like i plan to live in Japan. It's not really that appealing for me to learn a language just for the sake of watching content or maybe visit the country for a couple weeks only. That's too much energy to waste on learning a language with little reward. Specially considering how Japanese people are well known to be super reserved, introverted and just politely decline your friendship. Even if you learn Japanese and try to talk to a local there, they will straight up try speaking in English or assume you don't know japanese anyways or just say that they don't understand you. Watch some youtube video on how foreigners are treated in japan, it's no joke. Nothing against japanese but that's the reputation they have globally. They are polite, but not your friends. 
So because of the high effort and low reward, i don't see why anyone would want to learn japanese unless they have a lot of free time and enjoy learning languages. Which is fine to do, have fun. 

XiaXueYi said:
the main reward for me is to be able to read the manga 10 volumes ahead and not be reliant on translators to translate dead games and series lel