Does the MC get better?

Swagernator said:
And how do you know its not to your taste ? You didn't even watched it, as you have said.

positiv2 said:
Are you saying the MC starts acting differently in the second half of the episode? If not (and he does in fact not), then seeing the first half of the episode is enough to make a judgment.

Swiss_Bohemian said:
Yes, he does start to act differently. You just chose to ignore it.
You have judged a character based on 2~3 chapters of the 1st manga volume which has now 8 volumes and 117 chapters.

StrokeofMidnight said:
The MC gave me a LOT of feelings in this first ep - none of them good - and they were enough to make a very strong and very negative impression on me. I don't like him. see a lot of people here defending him because they think his antics are funny and saying he gets better, and I'm not here to argue against that - if you can enjoy it and find it amusing, good for you! Keep on doing you - I simply want to drop my own perspective here at this convenient opportunity to do so.

To say that the MCs thoughts and behaviors are alarming, disturbing, perverse, and criminal would all be understatements.

He judges his male classmates to be lewd, degenerate Neanderthals, and, though he is right about that, fails to see his blatant hypocrisy or the fact that he himself is far worse than all of them. He's in denial, but, like his classmates, he is also driven by sexual fantasies, but his are remarkably more dangerous, deviant, and scary as they are mixed with a compulsion to kill, to hurt, to "see that pretty face writhing in pain, " or whatever he said. He wants to murder those he finds annoying, and he strongly believes he derives pleasure from inflicting physical agony on the one he is attracted to. This just screams serial killer. Already, just a few minutes into the ep and I already had sirens blaring in my mind that this kid is bad news.

He is hyperaware of everything his crush does, to the point where he is making up narratives in his own head about her actions that he truly convinces himself must be real, and those delusions cause him to make public scenes and act erratically in ways people don't understand. This eerie fixation causes problems and he doesn't seem to grasp any sense of consequences. He always finds himself in the same areas as his crush, seemingly by accident, but a little too often to be believable as mere coincidence. Consciously or unconsciously, everything revolves around her. Watching him watch her, knowing he has a desire to kill, and the way its played off as a joke because he is just a kid is honestly not funny, it's frightening.

Ive been told im overthinking it, taking it too seriously, that he is just an angsty middle schooler that doesnt actually want to hurt anyone. He just cant express himself. The thing is that his actions are not so overly wild and extraordinary that it isn't plausible. I could absolutely see this happening in real life in a real school somewhere. I'm sure that it has. Most do not, but some adolescents really do think and behave like this, and the ones that do are psychologically troubled and dangerous. Someone like him would need serious help.

He seemed more toned down by the end of the ep, but after seeing all that before, and that one line about her writhing in pain, I don't trust it. I'm waiting for it to come back. Compulsions happen whether you want them to or not. He's got to be mentally ill to some degree, because normal awkward middle schoolers who don't know how to interpret their feelings still do not act like that or think about murder.

It's just an anime, though. If you're able to watch this and not associate it with real life, and you can just take it as a silly, dark joke, more power to you. I dont know anything about the manga, went into the ep blind, and i am not speaking towards the rest of the show whatsoever because i do not know how things could change, if they do. This is just my take on the MC in ep 1. Personally, the entire thing struck me as unsettling. The MC really gives me a sense of dread and anxiety, like a ticking time bomb counting down to explode. If left unaddressed, MC would definitely become a sex-motivated serial killer, the kind that harbors an intense, all-consuming obsession of his target for months before ultimately brutally murdering her (among other things) slowly and painfully.

StrokeofMidnight said:
He's got to be mentally ill to some degree, because normal awkward middle schoolers who don't know how to interpret their feelings still do not act like that or think about murder.

Askorti said:
So, I watched half of the first ep, and had to turn it off, because I found the MC's chuunibyou too cringeworthy. Does he get better in this regard in a relatively short order, or does he keep it up for long?

Just for those who might get their panties in a twist over this question, I'm not saying this makes the series bad or anything. It's just not to my taste, if you like this kind of thing, good for you, have fun.

StrokeofMidnight said:
The MC gave me a LOT of feelings in this first ep - none of them good - and they were enough to make a very strong and very negative impression on me. I don't like him. see a lot of people here defending him because they think his antics are funny and saying he gets better, and I'm not here to argue against that - if you can enjoy it and find it amusing, good for you! Keep on doing you - I simply want to drop my own perspective here at this convenient opportunity to do so.

To say that the MCs thoughts and behaviors are alarming, disturbing, perverse, and criminal would all be understatements.

He judges his male classmates to be lewd, degenerate Neanderthals, and, though he is right about that, fails to see his blatant hypocrisy or the fact that he himself is far worse than all of them. He's in denial, but, like his classmates, he is also driven by sexual fantasies, but his are remarkably more dangerous, deviant, and scary as they are mixed with a compulsion to kill, to hurt, to "see that pretty face writhing in pain, " or whatever he said. He wants to murder those he finds annoying, and he strongly believes he derives pleasure from inflicting physical agony on the one he is attracted to. This just screams serial killer. Already, just a few minutes into the ep and I already had sirens blaring in my mind that this kid is bad news.

He is hyperaware of everything his crush does, to the point where he is making up narratives in his own head about her actions that he truly convinces himself must be real, and those delusions cause him to make public scenes and act erratically in ways people don't understand. This eerie fixation causes problems and he doesn't seem to grasp any sense of consequences. He always finds himself in the same areas as his crush, seemingly by accident, but a little too often to be believable as mere coincidence. Consciously or unconsciously, everything revolves around her. Watching him watch her, knowing he has a desire to kill, and the way its played off as a joke because he is just a kid is honestly not funny, it's frightening.

Ive been told im overthinking it, taking it too seriously, that he is just an angsty middle schooler that doesnt actually want to hurt anyone. He just cant express himself. The thing is that his actions are not so overly wild and extraordinary that it isn't plausible. I could absolutely see this happening in real life in a real school somewhere. I'm sure that it has. Most do not, but some adolescents really do think and behave like this, and the ones that do are psychologically troubled and dangerous. Someone like him would need serious help.

He seemed more toned down by the end of the ep, but after seeing all that before, and that one line about her writhing in pain, I don't trust it. I'm waiting for it to come back. Compulsions happen whether you want them to or not. He's got to be mentally ill to some degree, because normal awkward middle schoolers who don't know how to interpret their feelings still do not act like that or think about murder.

It's just an anime, though. If you're able to watch this and not associate it with real life, and you can just take it as a silly, dark joke, more power to you. I dont know anything about the manga, went into the ep blind, and i am not speaking towards the rest of the show whatsoever because i do not know how things could change, if they do. This is just my take on the MC in ep 1. Personally, the entire thing struck me as unsettling. The MC really gives me a sense of dread and anxiety, like a ticking time bomb counting down to explode. If left unaddressed, MC would definitely become a sex-motivated serial killer, the kind that harbors an intense, all-consuming obsession of his target for months before ultimately brutally murdering her (among other things) slowly and painfully.

m0rt14k3 said:
if its not your taste, guess what don't watch it, what's a point of creating this useless thread

PastelleAutumn said:
idk why ppl don't even watch a full episode before making threads like this, lol. Like if you're wanting to drop an anime this quick, you don't care about it so why even ask the question.

StrokeofMidnight said:
The MC gave me a LOT of feelings in this first ep - none of them good - and they were enough to make a very strong and very negative impression on me. I don't like him. see a lot of people here defending him because they think his antics are funny and saying he gets better, and I'm not here to argue against that - if you can enjoy it and find it amusing, good for you! Keep on doing you - I simply want to drop my own perspective here at this convenient opportunity to do so.

To say that the MCs thoughts and behaviors are alarming, disturbing, perverse, and criminal would all be understatements.

He judges his male classmates to be lewd, degenerate Neanderthals, and, though he is right about that, fails to see his blatant hypocrisy or the fact that he himself is far worse than all of them. He's in denial, but, like his classmates, he is also driven by sexual fantasies, but his are remarkably more dangerous, deviant, and scary as they are mixed with a compulsion to kill, to hurt, to "see that pretty face writhing in pain, " or whatever he said. He wants to murder those he finds annoying, and he strongly believes he derives pleasure from inflicting physical agony on the one he is attracted to. This just screams serial killer. Already, just a few minutes into the ep and I already had sirens blaring in my mind that this kid is bad news.

He is hyperaware of everything his crush does, to the point where he is making up narratives in his own head about her actions that he truly convinces himself must be real, and those delusions cause him to make public scenes and act erratically in ways people don't understand. This eerie fixation causes problems and he doesn't seem to grasp any sense of consequences. He always finds himself in the same areas as his crush, seemingly by accident, but a little too often to be believable as mere coincidence. Consciously or unconsciously, everything revolves around her. Watching him watch her, knowing he has a desire to kill, and the way its played off as a joke because he is just a kid is honestly not funny, it's frightening.

Ive been told im overthinking it, taking it too seriously, that he is just an angsty middle schooler that doesnt actually want to hurt anyone. He just cant express himself. The thing is that his actions are not so overly wild and extraordinary that it isn't plausible. I could absolutely see this happening in real life in a real school somewhere. I'm sure that it has. Most do not, but some adolescents really do think and behave like this, and the ones that do are psychologically troubled and dangerous. Someone like him would need serious help.

He seemed more toned down by the end of the ep, but after seeing all that before, and that one line about her writhing in pain, I don't trust it. I'm waiting for it to come back. Compulsions happen whether you want them to or not. He's got to be mentally ill to some degree, because normal awkward middle schoolers who don't know how to interpret their feelings still do not act like that or think about murder.

It's just an anime, though. If you're able to watch this and not associate it with real life, and you can just take it as a silly, dark joke, more power to you. I dont know anything about the manga, went into the ep blind, and i am not speaking towards the rest of the show whatsoever because i do not know how things could change, if they do. This is just my take on the MC in ep 1. Personally, the entire thing struck me as unsettling. The MC really gives me a sense of dread and anxiety, like a ticking time bomb counting down to explode. If left unaddressed, MC would definitely become a sex-motivated serial killer, the kind that harbors an intense, all-consuming obsession of his target for months before ultimately brutally murdering her (among other things) slowly and painfully.

LordKirkis said:
I appreciate posts like this because I also struggle with enjoying anime's with extreme themes and characters. I have notice too that at times these things are glorified

Askorti said:

And others asking this stupid question. I want to watch an anime, because it seems like it might have some things that appeal to me. But something in it bothers me. So I want to know if this thing that bothers me is a recurring theme of the series. Because if that ONE thing that bothers me goes away, other aspects of the series might win me back.

is this really so difficult to understand?

Dickegrobe said:

Yea ... no. Nothing of that kind in this show. All in all, it's pretty wholesome even.

Askorti said:
So, I watched half of the first ep, and had to turn it off, because I found the MC's chuunibyou too cringeworthy. Does he get better in this regard in a relatively short order, or does he keep it up for long?

Just for those who might get their panties in a twist over this question, I'm not saying this makes the series bad or anything. It's just not to my taste, if you like this kind of thing, good for you, have fun.

Askorti said:

And others asking this stupid question. I want to watch an anime, because it seems like it might have some things that appeal to me. But something in it bothers me. So I want to know if this thing that bothers me is a recurring theme of the series. Because if that ONE thing that bothers me goes away, other aspects of the series might win me back.

is this really so difficult to understand?

Swiss_Bohemian said:
First, the author is a woman, not a man, and the supposedly truth of "the author tried to make the story about a creepy middle-schooler who has this incel kind of personality, but the response he got from the readers made him rethink the approach." isn't quite correct either. The real truth is easy to find out as long as you're able to read Japanese. Sakurai Norio has stated in multiple interviews that what she's been interested in from the start is the increasing awareness of two middle schoolers' feelings for each other and the decreasing distance between the two until they become a real couple. The whole chuunibyô & incel personality of Kyôtarô has never been a wrong character approach from Sakurai she had to rethink thereafter of, but rather a necessity to show his increasing maturity in regards of his relationship with Anna and his own feelings towards himself and others in general.

FlamingMangos said:
Bro, don't make the author out to be this innocent woman. The is is the same author who did Mitsudomoe which is loli shit.
Now with Boku no Kokoro no Yabai, it seems like she's going the shota route because she has a thing for that, and it's like she's self inserting as the girl. Women in the anime industry do like their shota stuff after all. 

It's copium to think she has no other intentions besides just making a sweet story between two middle schoolers. Because I don't see the good moral reasoning behind the guy who feels like a shota, aka the loli version of males developing a relationship with someone twice his size. 

Swiss_Bohemian said:

because it's quite obvious to me from her tweets, her art and her previous works that she into drawing cute (and loliesque) female characters. There are also no Shota doujin of her that I'm aware of.

FlamingMangos said:
Why do you keep downplaying what she does? It’s not only her enjoying drawing cute characters but very weird sexualization if you actually look at the things from Mitsudomoe.

FlamingMangos said:
So if someone asks you about an author you like and you mention this author, you’re going to proudly tell them she’s a lolicon who got known for Mirsudomoe, a manga that has a bunch of perverted and sexualized stuff involving kids that look 7 years old? Nice to know you’re an honest man with what you like with zero downplaying.