Upcoming controversial anime

DrBalls said:
What would you say is the most controversial upcoming anime series?

Personally I think it will be Chainsaw Man. While it is certainly loved and influential in the anime community, there are scenes that will spur some controversy. I think the most controversial part of CSM will be the fanbase tho, I can only imagine how badly Makima dogs will be bullied constantly online (which is a good thing🗿).

RobertBobert said:


You can't make a controversial show that already has a fanbase of girls on twitter. This is the fate of purely "male shows" like Nagatoro or Shield Hero.

DrBalls said:

It seems you haven't seen the MHA controversies over the years...death threats to the author for not making any of the underage characters gay, which was started by female fans of the series.

RobertBobert said:


This does not make the franchise controversial. This is a classic case of the toxicity of a part of the audience that tries to subdue the author, ignoring the rest of the audience or even most of the audience.

mwinner said:
I agree with CSM for a different reason, it seems to be pretty divisive amongst the community.

DrBalls said:

If an anime is able to attract toxic fans, then it is a controversial anime to me. Well I guess every anime can attract toxic fans, but not all anime have such a large amount of fans that are constantly at the center of a lot of controversies.

RobertBobert said:


Most of these shows are just popular enough to attract all sorts of people, including the weird ones. For example, I don't think it's Genshin's fault per se that its fans are harassing illustrators for "wrong ships".

DrBalls said:

Idk, the amount of lolis can be seen as a clear reason for the way the fanbase is. I don't like to judge a fanbase based on what they like, however series and games that adhere to these type of tropes and characters, will inevitably attract weird fans.

DrBalls said:

I don't think there has ever been a dark fantasy series, especially one that doesn't care to hold back on the gore and explicit content such as CSM, which hasn't been divisive in the anime community.

RobertBobert said:


I have never seen people obsessed with Genshin mainly because of lolis.

DrBalls said:

I have. They're in great number as well. Either way I don't care, I'm just saying that there is a correlation between the content of a franchise, and its fanbase.

RobertBobert said:


Are you saying that the shonen franchise is to blame for their current fandoms being filled with toxic gay obsessed girls?

DrBalls said:

It is. I saw a literature youtuber, who read shonen manga for the first time and described it as "pretty boys fighting". That's the perspective of a new shonen watcher/reader nowadays. So why wouldn't a demographic that focuses on such characters have overly obsessive female fans who sexualize the male characters?

The_SoL_Expert said:
Well, the new Urusei Yatsura is already controversial in Japan, so there's that.

Some people are absolutely in terror that they might sanitize it (let's face it, that anime is very... 80s).
I, personally, don't even know why they felt the need to touch a Rumiko Takahashi franchise in 2022, but whatever. Gotta milk it all dry, I guess.

RobertBobert said:


I don't quite understand why it's still shonen's fault, not a problem of accessing it to the wrong audience.

DrBalls said:

If a series purposefully draws attention by having pretty drawn characters on covers, logically that would mean people with an interest only on these characters will be attracted to these particular series. Idk how that is so hard to comprehend.

The_SoL_Expert said:


Subtle hints that it might be "modernized" for a... less forgiving audience.

Let's be real here: that particular mangaka loves to show the female body. One group wants that to remain the same. The other says that's highly objectifying and not fit for the current year.

We'll see how it goes. Either way, expect some salt. There aren't many female mangaka with as many (die-hard) fans as RT...

RobertBobert said:


I find it difficult to understand the direction of your thinking, which seems to drift stubbornly towards the idea that beautiful women themselves are to blame for attracting horny men.

RobertBobert said:


Are you saying that the shonen franchise is to blame for their current fandoms being filled with toxic gay obsessed girls?

DrBalls said:

If these women present themselves as sex slaves and sell their entire identity on sth like onlyfans, then yeah, they are to blame. Shonen manga are marketed in a specific way to attract attention, and each reader can find at least one thing they're looking for in this demographic. How else do you think shonen became so popular? And if one aspect of shonen manga is more prominent than another (in this case the way characters are drawn), then it is pretty obvious what kind of fans it will attract.

The_SoL_Expert said:


Not necessarily, because I don't really use the term "woke" (doesn't really mean anything anymore) and Rumiko Takahashi has been doing some pretty progressive stuff since long before it was cool to brag about it on social media.

I mean, Ranma ½ has been around since the 80s...

That's not the issue. The issue is that someone, somewhere, saw some titty in the very first chapter and was like "nope, that shit ain't gonna fly today."




Outstanding question. I have absolutely no idea. The only thing I can think of is that the western market must not be as insignificant as it used to be, particularly in the digital age.

Deathko said:

if I got a penny everytime I saw a toxic gay obsessed girl in the fandom, I'd be poor af
If I got a penny everytime I saw a dude obsess over them, I'd buy everything Elon Musk owns, including his friends and family.

I still don't know where you people find these dangerous fujo terrorists you keep talking about in every thread. To me it looks like those boogeymen elitists people mention in threads every two days here. Some mythical creature whose legend is kept alive by people who swear they totally saw one.

RobertBobert said:


Are you literally saying that any promotion of shonen manga to girls is tantamount to attracting a toxic audience?

DrBalls said:

Not every single one, but yes. Jujutsu Kaisen, Chainsaw Man, Demon Slayer, My Hero Academia, these are just a few examples of that. Never have I ever seen women become so defensive of a fictional male character before, try to criticize Gojo, Aki, Giyuu, Todoroki or any other characters of these shows, and you will get crucified. That just shows how well the promotion worked I guess. Not all female viewers or readers of shonen series are like that, but the more vocal ones are clearly just toxic fans. And they aren't small in number either.

RobertBobert said:


Toxic male fans don't exist? There's probably a reason why "narutard" was such a popular insult for teen fans in the 00s.

FanofAction said:
If that's the case, I want to watch Chainsaw Man even more. It already had me at the name, but any "controversy" makes me more likely to try it.

I've already watched multiple controversial shows, and they're never as bad as people make them sound. Shield Hero, Goblin Slayer, Mushoku Tensei. Never. The only one that kinda came close was Made in Abyss. And I guess Berserk 2016, but only because it was hated for the way it looked, which I can kinda agree with, even though I didn't completely hate it.

DrBalls said:

I never said that. But male fans tend to be more toxic about other aspects of a series. Like defending the power scaling for example. Sure, you can always find neckbeards who'd become even more toxic by defending their favorite waifu, but these types of people are usually a threat to society as a whole and can get turned on by anything they see.

RobertBobert said:


But what exactly makes female fans special?

p0eticsu1cide said:
What is 'controversial' supposed to mean though? A few tweets with 4 likes? Because that's the pattern I've seen with other shows mentioned in this thread like Nagatoro and Uzaki. Does some twitter drama really affect a show's prospects that much? Or do you mean an anime that actually gets/is threatened to be pulled off the air and cancelled for doing something really bad, because if that's happened to a prominent anime recently, please fill me in

DrBalls said:

Tbh controversy usually starts for the dumbest reasons. Providing no context for a scene and then slandering it online has become pretty common. So much that I've started to watch controversial series more than before. As you said they can be pretty good.

DrBalls said:

Oh well idk...sending death threats to an author for not making children characters gay doesn't seem enough to call female fans "special" to you?

RobertBobert said:


Well, Chinese fans wrote insults to Horikoshi for making the new villain look like Japanese war criminals. But we're not saying that Chinese fans are special.

FanofAction said:

Especially some of the newer controversies. I've seen the complaints about stuff like Spy X Family and Uzaki-chan. They're so damn stupid. I swear constant internet access has made people dumber, which I'm pretty sure is the exact opposite of what was intended.

FanofAction said:

Especially some of the newer controversies. I've seen the complaints about stuff like Spy X Family and Uzaki-chan. They're so damn stupid. I swear constant internet access has made people dumber, which I'm pretty sure is the exact opposite of what was intended.

samashi20 said:
Possibly Makoto Shinkai's new movie? I don't know about problematic scenes, but I am sure it will be under a lot of scrutiny and that'll spark some controversy.

DrBalls said:

Oh chinese fans are special. All that communist propaganda has turned their brain to mush.

DrBalls said:

Well viagra was intended to be used to cure heart diseases...so I'm not surprised...

RobertBobert said:


Let me guess, in Germany, probably all people are Nazis?

RobertBobert said:


And the Chinese are? Can you give me examples?

DrBalls said:

Learning communist ideals in school...that's more than enough.