Attack on Titan
| I don't know if you guys realised, but Eren is literally murdering people, so for those that are hoping for his win or just hate the alliance, which are objectively the best part about this anime rn, what are your reasoning? Also in last episode you can see as manga readers said before, alliance acutally saw how it is to be outside the walls, so they can empathise with marlenians that are not evil and are humans like everyone else, eren was also there with them btw and he still chooses to kill everyone, keep that in mind pls. |
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| Personally alliance is overshadowed by eren glorification. Lot of characters in alliance got worser tbh. I can't root for them even inspite of hating yeagarist. I once read isayama take on serial killer which he said in interview. Strangely enough this reminds me of a anime OVA which i watched called "Domain of Murder". In that ova, i absolutely dislike the people who are trying to stop the serial killer, even though i hate the serial killer himself. |
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nexuro01 said: lordkagetane said: I don't know if you guys realised, but Eren is literally murdering people, so for those that are hoping for his win or just hate the alliance, which are objectively the best part about this anime rn, what are your reasoning? Also in last episode you can see as manga readers said before, alliance acutally saw how it is to be outside the walls, so they can empathise with marlenians that are not evil and are humans like everyone else, eren was also there with them btw and he still chooses to kill everyone, keep that in mind pls. Show went from humans vs titans into fully game of thrones style with both Eldian and Marleyan side being morally grey. Then alliance happened, half the cast got retconned and we’re back to good guys vs bad guys. Levi wants monke dead but gives zero fucks about working with Annie who massacred his beloved squad Connie doesn’t give a fuck about working with person responsible for titanizing his mother and his entire village where he was born and raised Armin and Hanji joining the alliance make sense because they are idealistic Mikasa joining alliance makes sense only to get close to Eren and eventually backstab the alliance the moment there is any danger from them towards Eren Jean stays on middle ground, imo it would be storywise much better if after campfire scene he left alliance and joined Floch, then we get Connie offing Jean Instead of random Samuel guy scene, two friends kill each other for their believes, it would easily be one of best aot scenes ever Huge plot armor alliance gets is also annoying af, if you’re familiar with manga you know what i’m talking about Annie gets queen treatment, meanwhile Reiner is trashed around There is literally no reason for me to like the alliance, it feels like a big ass pull and something that should have never happened i think it wasn't very likely for jean to betray them only because he have a huge crush on mikasa |
nexuro01 said: lordkagetane said: Could have been the case, but still - after chapter 123 writing got pretty lazy and the abomination of last 3 chapters was something else that not even alliance defenders expexted to happeni think it wasn't very likely for jean to betray them only because he have a huge crush on mikasa EnoD said: It's kind of hard to believe that Levi Hange Mikasa etc. teaming up with Annie and Reiner who killed thousands of their people in cold blood. No matter what is the situation like, you should never, ever team up with your enemy who only fights to destroy your whole existence as a race/nation. Eren was always adoring genocide, why are you snowflakes suddenly hating him in this season? This decision isn't anything new afterall. |
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| Because they are hypocritical clowns. |
_spoon_ said: Because they are hypocritical clowns. Isayama tried to be morally gray but done in ways that it's just too elementary and assumed the readers won't notice the shitty presentation of it all. |
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| Why do you care that much? Let them love and hate whatever they want. It surely won’t change your view on the anime or won’t make you like it less right? Stop bothering yourself with such irrelevant things. |
 𝘚𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘐 𝘤𝘭𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘺 𝘦𝘺𝘦𝘴, 𝘐 𝘤𝘢𝘯’𝘵 𝘴𝘦𝘦. |
on MeVike said: Why do you care that much? Let them love and hate whatever they want. It surely won’t change your view on the anime or won’t make you like it less right? Stop bothering yourself with such irrelevant things. so why is affecting you my question then? |
lordkagetane said: MeVike said: Why do you care that much? Let them love and hate whatever they want. It surely won’t change your view on the anime or won’t make you like it less right? Stop bothering yourself with such irrelevant things. so why is affecting you my question then? It is not. I’m trying to affect you, so you won’t really bother in unnecessary stuff. Many people make these kinds of forums where they seem too bothered by what other think of something. The point is, you shouldn’t think much or anything of them, as it’ll only waste your time. People will always love and hate different things and as I said, you just need to let them be. You won’t change them, you probably won’t get any good reasons out of them and you’ll only be wasting your time. But hey, in a way, you’re right! I shouldn’t be telling you what to do either, so I’ll only suggest it. That’s it, whatever you do with that indo is up to you now. |
𝘚𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘐 𝘤𝘭𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘺 𝘦𝘺𝘦𝘴, 𝘐 𝘤𝘢𝘯’𝘵 𝘴𝘦𝘦. |
| Because it doesn't make sense for some of the characters to be a part of the group |
| op is a casuls and really dont give any f for quality shit just like majority of aot casuls fan. dont bother to argument, we (manga reader ending hater) have done this many time and ending defender just couldnt understand but coping about aot fumbling arc not being dogshit. |
 MAL score and most user-based rating system are all joke, Imagine trusting plebs and hivemind. Find users who have good sense and rating and use them as a reference. Check my guide to rate Your taste is trash. Cope, seethe, mald |
| because ending haters can't let go. also because people can't seem to take it when you let them know that genocide is objectively wrong and its impossible to have a perfect and somewhat realistic solution/ideal to it all |
| good opinions on anything, block = I own you |
| People going full critic mode here |
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| There is so much misinterpretation and misrepresentation in this fandom. I don't hate them, as a group or any of them individually, i just think they had the weakest writing from Isayama, their chapters really brought the entire series down. If you had the same concept, written and executed in a much better way - i would love it. But i still want some some of them to take the other side, even Historia who's technically on Eren's side, wasn't anyhow active, and didn't come into direct conflict with them. That mini-arc of civil in-fighting was was very underwhelming because all of the major character were on one side. |
DrewsClues said: Because they’re stupid. Floch: *beats children, shoots innocent people multiple times just for disagreeing, intentionally kills civilians, is a literal fascist, and fights for omnicide* Floch Stans: SO BASED! i mean no soldier is "innocent", once you hold the gun you should be ready to be shot |
DojimaNoRyu said: Because it doesn't make sense for some of the characters to be a part of the group This. It's terrible writing by Isayama. He had a very tight, enthralling story but once he opened things up with the Marleyans, he lost grip. Some of the characters motivations and the way they act/behave are at odds with the rest of the story. If you don't see this, then you have a very shallow reading of the manga. |
645-lab said: Didn't read manga. Only anime. That's all so bad. Author needed the other side because it had to happen. And author didn't have enough people to form the other side, so the stupidest allience was born. All i could say is poor writing and realisaition of the mess that has to be done for the glory of shounen. - Stormtrooper effect - armin doesn't know what to do because it's not what armin would do at all - not knowing what to do with levi - plot armor - power of love - not destroing the ship - admitting through flock, that trying to stop eren would result total wipe of paradise It has to be done for the glory of action. Ok, i get it. But it you scrap all the little character develompent they had just to do action, don't expect me to still love the characters. They were not so well written in the first place. Now it's just pawns with no background. And then i just start to wish they all dead. Historia line has ended. It has it's conclusion - peace and self-acceptance. Sasha was a huntress and was killed. Zik found his father, his love and his line has ended. Armim only wanted to see the sea and what did he do? Levi is someone who punches the Yeger family? Zoe is a scientist, who was weightend by dead man's curse? Mikasa has no motivation to do anything at all after harsh talk. Marlin warriors are just punching Yegers. If mostly feel bad and betrayed because they trashed characters that i loved. Erwin's death is a mercy compered to this. Erwin took the whole anime with him in the grave |
| They are traitors, pure and simple. Can you imagine any other anime, were the main character's best friends all decide to turn against him/her in the last arc? I can almost guarantee most people would hate them. At least Eren had a plan. If the alliance traitors had their way Paradis would've been swiftly wiped out and the remaining eldian's slowly tortured to death. They were wasting time doing absolutely nothing when it was clear that time was quickly running out. |
nexuro01 said: There is literally no reason for me to like the alliance, it feels like a big ass pull and something that should have never happened you are literally my soulmate XD everything you mentioned I agree with it feels like stole words from my mouth and also one more thing... they have no plan to save paradis after killing their saviour |
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| Because the alliance's excuse is "it's not okay to kill indiscriminately and it makes us feel guilty if we don't stop him". It's the simplest, most shallow and self-righteous conclusion they reached. Simple because "it's the right thing to do, naive childish sense justice". Shallow because, in the long term, the world will have even more justification for hating the eldians. Self-righteous because "we want to do things our way, Eren deciding on his own is unfair, just because he has the power to do something, doesn't mean he should". |
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| Because they are nazi-apologists. |
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Man_of_hardcore said: Can't even argument why, but sure, it's a mess just 'cause you say so mr. internet criticRafiikii said: couldn't agree more! The entire season 4 is nothing but a mess. I laugh at these people whenever they argue about anything related to season 4 🤣🤣🤣I think it's funny that people hate on the alliance when the entire post time-skip is a confusing mess and mostly goes for weird decisions. And I have more of a gripe with how he handles politics in season 4 rather than heroes come to save the day |
HEBl said: Under that lens Eren and Floch are traitors too, they took over the military by force, killing officials left and right in the process and allowed their own people to get poisoned with Zeke's spinal fluid and turned to Titans because it suited their interests.They are traitors, pure and simple. Can you imagine any other anime, were the main character's best friends all decide to turn against him/her in the last arc? I can almost guarantee most people would hate them. At least Eren had a plan. If the alliance traitors had their way Paradis would've been swiftly wiped out and the remaining eldian's slowly tortured to death. They were wasting time doing absolutely nothing when it was clear that time was quickly running out. Fact is, there is no good side to this conflict, favoring one side while demonizing the other is missing the point entirely, ignoring the message of forgiveness and getting over past grudges being the only way to end the cycle is also missing the point. Also, the Survey Corps always fought for humanity, not for an empire or a country, bur for all human beings. |
| Don't care what others think man, just enjoy what you wanna enjoy. AOT has never been good or bad. Every side is morally grey and it's up to you who you prefer. Also, AOT almost aways gets hated on so it's better to just turn a blind eye to all this |
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Alvacka97 said: HEBl said: They are traitors, pure and simple. Can you imagine any other anime, were the main character's best friends all decide to turn against him/her in the last arc? I can almost guarantee most people would hate them. At least Eren had a plan. If the alliance traitors had their way Paradis would've been swiftly wiped out and the remaining eldian's slowly tortured to death. They were wasting time doing absolutely nothing when it was clear that time was quickly running out. Under that lens Eren and Floch are traitors too, they took over the military by force, killing officials left and right in the process and allowed their own people to get poisoned with Zeke's spinal fluid and turned to Titans because it suited their interests. Fact is, there is no good side to this conflict, favoring one side while demonizing the other is missing the point entirely, ignoring the message of forgiveness and getting over past grudges being the only way to end the cycle is also missing the point. Also, the Survey Corps always fought for humanity, not for an empire or a country, bur for all human beings. Sure, but if Eren and Floch didn't do any of that, then all those people were going to be wiped out by Marley and the rest of the world at a later date. Questionable action is better than doing nothing and passively letting your people be wiped out because you didn't want to make any tough decisions or sacrifices. Armin should've been coming up with good ideas and plans during these years, but for some reason didn't. I get that it was supposed to be morally grey and have a deep message about forgiveness and getting over past grudges, but I think it was conveyed so poorly that I didn't buy it. I think the biggest problem was the writing in the final arc. I think that's the main reason the ending and final arc are so hated and fanbase splitting. Do you think Marley were going to get over past grudges if Eren didn't put his plan into action? I don't, and the evidence suggests they wouldn't. They would most likely invaded Paradis, take the titan powers by force and then either kill or enslave the rest of the population. That's were the story was heading before Eren intervened. |
Khalil04 said: I don't expect much from the shonen crowd, but they still manage to disappoint me. Guess that's what happens when a mature multi-layered war drama like this becomes mainstream, a lot of casuals and teenagers get into it and then start blaming the author when they can't understand what they're reading.lordkagetane said: I don't know if you guys realised, but Eren is literally murdering people, so for those that are hoping for his win or just hate the alliance, which are objectively the best part about this anime rn, what are your reasoning? Also in last episode you can see as manga readers said before, alliance acutally saw how it is to be outside the walls, so they can empathise with marlenians that are not evil and are humans like everyone else, eren was also there with them btw and he still chooses to kill everyone, keep that in mind pls. Well, seeing this thread and reading these comments after nearly 3 months, I would say congratulations on bringing the highest number of braindead people (who are 50% or more of this fandom) in one place lol Oh wait they're still coming The fact that you can summon them just by asking this question is insane, 95% of people here don't know shit about writing nor do they understand a single thing about the character's motives and their psychological development (which was carefully shown in story from the first chapter/episode) Nothing but pure bias and stupid-narrow way of thinking That tells you more about how Isayama made a mistake thinking his fanbase is smart enough to comprehend such a complicated plot with this deep themes & messages Studies do say teenagers' attention snap is getting shorter and shorter every year 🤔 |
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