Better 1st half than the 2nd one

EXCALIBUR_843 said:
So is it just me or did some of you guys too found the first half(match vs classB)+ training with Endeavour arc to be way better than the 2nd half(My Villain Academia), as opposed to the popular opinion which says otherwise?

Deepsea_Bandit said:
I found the 2nd half better because pacing was alright and we got to know some new info about the villains, the 1st half was boring and pacing was very bad and endeavor arc was filled with flashbacks and stuff. Well manga was way better in this season compared to anime

EXCALIBUR_843 said:
So is it just me or did some of you guys too found the first half(match vs classB)+ training with Endeavour arc to be way better than the 2nd half(My Villain Academia), as opposed to the popular opinion which says otherwise?

EXCALIBUR_843 said:

You certainly have a point there, the 2nd half indeed showed some new stuff and origin about the villains, but I personally couldn't get attached to it, cuz over the 4 prev seasons, I have rooted for our class-A students, so even if the villains got some decent character development, I wasn't too interested in it and wanted more class 1A students's screentime.

its_connor_26 said:
I found that A vs B I only liked Bakugos team dominating and the rest I found boring then i was really engaged in endeavour and my villain

AniPhoenix said:
Endeavour agency is part of the 2nd half.. I would have agreed with you that the 2nd half isn't as good as the first half if it didn't turn out that you thought endeavour agency is part of the 2nd half..

MVA slaps the joint training arc and endeavour agency out of the water

EXCALIBUR_843 said:

I see, and btw just curious, what did you like most about the MVA arc?

EXCALIBUR_843 said:

I see, and btw just curious, what did you like most about the MVA arc?

EXCALIBUR_843 said:

Yeah, the Bakugo fight was the most exciting abd impactful one but I found the use of strategies in every other battle were also well executed. Especially the Todoroki one which resulted in a tie at the end.

AniPhoenix said:
you mean the manga or anime?

ScottMerica said:
Well you got one thing mixed up, the first half was the Class 1A vs Class 1B matches whereas the second had the Endeavor Agency/build up to and pay off of MVA. But anyway I'd have to go with the popular opinion and say the second half. Although even then I'd really only say the truly great stuff was the development Shigaraki and Endeavor got, with most everything else being sort of middling.

This season made it easier to notice than ever that the story was just sort of spinning its wheels and the usual hero shenanigans was getting tiresome. Don't get me wrong, I like our main characters/students and there has been some great moments/characters in the last couple seasons, but it's hard not to feel like the story peaked with AFO vs OFA. And this season was the worse offender with a tournament arc that had zero stakes and a training arc that had some great family drama mixed in but ultimately was more of the same when the story really needed a change of pace.

Then things came to life with Eraserhead's episode, and MVA gave us some much needed insight into the villains' side of the conflict. The highs here were insanely high, with Tenko killing his family being tied with Deku vs Muscular as my favorite scene in the entire show. It's impressive how they managed to make Shigaraki, a villain I didn't care all that much for, into someone genuinely intimidating and interesting in just a few episodes. And I can't wait to see how he continues to develop into a monster and how our heroes deal with this new threat. All that is great, but it didn't come until the last 1/3rd of the season, leaving the first 2/3rd to sort of drag despite some fun fights. Better late then never I guess.

EXCALIBUR_843 said:

As I'm an anime-only, it would be better if you could give your perspective from anime point of view.

AniPhoenix said:

well.. First things first, I found MVA to be "the good version of the raid arc in season 4"

They didn't butcher any of the character moments(besides spinner) just so they can have an epic fight in the end. Shigaraki's development feels so natural despite the speed in which he develops(note that in real time, the villains only fought for an hour). Speaking of shigaraki, that guy was a G when it came for his time in the spotlight.he absolutely killed it and proved why he was the boss and all for one's successor. Remember, he didn't only have to prove to the liberation army that he was worthy, he also had to prove it to us the audience.

And then there's also the pacing, the pacing for MVA was easily the best that season.. It didn't have any recap per episode, its animation was decent, the climax had abnormally good animation like it should while the other fights didn't feel dragged out.

Also, I'd like to point out that the pacing for the endeavour agency arc is probably the worst pacing I've seen in any anime I've ever seen.. Jesus, I remember episode 17, literally half the episode was just about endeavour getting flashbacks.

The joint training arc on the other hand just felt very inconsistent and gave spotlight to moments where I felt it didn't need it. For example, the Iida fight during team todoroki had him use his super jet booster attack, the animation there was phenomenal.. But why couldn't we get anything similar to that during Midoriya's fight with shinso and his first use of black whip?

With all that said though, I still think the best episode this season goes to the team bakugou fight in the joint training arc,thats what I'd call a perfect adaptation.

Also, though I praise MVA of season 5 when comparing it to the other arcs present, I don't think it's a perfectly done arc by any means.. It was still butchered by Bones because of what they did with the opening and some shots are admittedly questionable. If they were gonna adapt a war arc, they shouldn't have done it the same time they were producing a movie.

EXCALIBUR_843 said:

Yeah, I agree for the majority part there with you, except that they hyped us up first with that Eraser episode and after that the Villains vs Liberation part didn't get interesting until that origin episode of Tenko Shimura, so yeah some pacing issues in MVA barring the last three eps.

_spoon_ said:
why are you asking this question? the hate surrounding the first half is insane. did you really think anyone would choose it lmaoo

AniPhoenix said:
I wouldn't say that, toga's quick awakening was hype as hell and twice's sad man's parade has to be one of my favourite moments in all MHA excluding the manga

EXCALIBUR_843 said:

Yeah Toga and Twice's newfound power along with the soundtrack were cool AF, it more or less felt like a cliche when the powers awakened r8 when they were at death's door, it would have made more of an impact if they would have trained for it. Plus before this arc, we didn't know much about Toga and Twice's backstory apart from the fact that they were on the evil side. All in all, I personally found it difficult to get attached and genuinely care for these two characters for the above reasons.

EXCALIBUR_843 said:

The thing is I genuinely loved the first part+training arc more than the MVA one, so I thought of asking around if there were any others who felt the same as me. Just because literally everyone hates it and has a certain opinion, doesn't mean you are entitled to not go against it.

_spoon_ said:
oh ok sorry I guess

EXCALIBUR_843 said:

Aye np, its fine dude! So which arc did you love more, battle+Endeavour training one or the MVA arc?