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Oct 30, 2021 3:49 PM
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Why the heck Abelia follow the order of an incompetent king like Hamdo? At first it seems to me she is inlove with him, because of that one scene of her with lala ru that she say when she see Hamdo and lala ru talk together, it was implied that she was jealous.

Abelia can easily stop the non sense suffering if she just kill or at the very least remove him in power.

so many plot holes in this anime, I kinda dont get it why majority of people watch this say this is a masterpiece.



Oct 30, 2021 7:43 PM
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RjtheGreat14 said:
Why the heck Abelia follow the order of an incompetent king like Hamdo? At first it seems to me she is inlove with him, because of that one scene of her with lala ru that she say when she see Hamdo and lala ru talk together, it was implied that she was jealous.

Abelia can easily stop the non sense suffering if she just kill or at the very least remove him in power.

so many plot holes in this anime, I kinda dont get it why majority of people watch this say this is a masterpiece.



for me this anime was not a masterpiece but it was excellent, very underrated. My answer to your question is just that Abelia is the representation of all those soldiers that blindly followed orders from Hitler for example🤷🏼‍♂️. She is not an ilogic character, people like her were real, no matter the reason.
Oct 31, 2021 12:51 AM
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carhs14 said:
RjtheGreat14 said:
Why the heck Abelia follow the order of an incompetent king like Hamdo? At first it seems to me she is inlove with him, because of that one scene of her with lala ru that she say when she see Hamdo and lala ru talk together, it was implied that she was jealous.

Abelia can easily stop the non sense suffering if she just kill or at the very least remove him in power.

so many plot holes in this anime, I kinda dont get it why majority of people watch this say this is a masterpiece.



for me this anime was not a masterpiece but it was excellent, very underrated. My answer to your question is just that Abelia is the representation of all those soldiers that blindly followed orders from Hitler for example🤷🏼‍♂️. She is not an ilogic character, people like her were real, no matter the reason.


I am not saying this anime is trash, for me its a 7/10.

In your example, maybe atleast hitler is kinda charismatic, that's a good enough reason to follow him. But in this case hamdo is far from charismatic, very incompetent. there is no literal reason to follow him.

if the anime expand a little about abelia being in love with hamdo, that's a good enough reason for me. But as it stands it just a plot hole that keeping this anime from being Great.
Feb 26, 2022 9:20 AM
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RjtheGreat14 said:
carhs14 said:
for me this anime was not a masterpiece but it was excellent, very underrated. My answer to your question is just that Abelia is the representation of all those soldiers that blindly followed orders from Hitler for example🤷🏼‍♂️. She is not an ilogic character, people like her were real, no matter the reason.


I am not saying this anime is trash, for me its a 7/10.

In your example, maybe atleast hitler is kinda charismatic, that's a good enough reason to follow him. But in this case hamdo is far from charismatic, very incompetent. there is no literal reason to follow him.

if the anime expand a little about abelia being in love with hamdo, that's a good enough reason for me. But as it stands it just a plot hole that keeping this anime from being Great.


As I see it, it's not important to develop that side of him, since it's shown in other ways. Elamba and the people of Zari Bars is the example we are given of what Hamdo's history might have been like, and Hamdo's demise is what Elamba's future may have been like.

What we see with Elamba is that the people unite under a leader they believe in who shares a common anger. Even in the early stages, we see Elamba is sometimes irrational, for example shooting innocent people because they oppose his beliefs, but he also had strong charisma and was able to motivate the people of his village.

Hamdo was likely similarly charismatic in his early days as well, but as his power grew, he feared losing his power, and so he came to wage war against anyone he saw as a threat, whether real or perceived. He waged wars, destroyed soil and water, the lifeblood of the earth, as collateral damage to pursue his goals, and led the world down a path of destruction to its near-demise. The more people he enslaved and villages he destroyed, the less anyone posed a threat to him, but regardless his fears remained ingrained in his mind and ate away at him over time, leading him to become an irrational and insane leader. Abelia believed in and fell in love with who Hamdo was long ago, not who he is right now.

Had Elamba lived to overthrow Hamdo, the seeds of anger, fear, and violence were already planted, and so it would not have stopped with Hellywood. The cycle of violence, war, and struggle for power would have continued until someone else, too, would have sought to assassinate him. Both Hamda and Elamba are symbolic of the state of the world and the cycles of war and violence.

Shu is the opposition of this and the symbol of hope for the world. He refuses to fight anyone with lethal force and argues that the way the world is is wrong, and that the people who accept it are crazy. He lacks power and is at a disadvantage because of his morals, but because he is not a follower of fear, this gives him the strength to persuade some people like Boo and Nabuca that the world isn't right. He becomes the one true leader of this dying world through his courage, and gives it hope for a future.

With regard to Hitler, while I'm not well-studied on the subject, I understand that his mental health had greatly declined over the last couple years of his life and that he suffered from paranoia. While this may have been due to drug use, the point remains that the mental state of Hitler at his demise was not the same as the Hitler that originally gained support from the German people.

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