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Apr 2, 2008 8:21 AM
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Oh, if only Abelia didn't had superhuman strenght, Hellywood, along wim Hamdo, would be over now =/
I still find it wierd that Abelia confused Lala Ru with Sara, they're both completely diferent (only the hair and pendants were similar).
Feb 12, 2010 10:01 PM
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With all the hell sara's been through I can't blame her for attacking la laru . I wonder how will Hamdo die, will he get killed by Abelia (I'm rooting for this) or will he die by the hands of people that despised him.
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With all the hell sara's been through I can't blame her for attacking la laru .

This. Seriously, just because you look like (not for me though...) one kid, you get kidnapped to another dimension, imprisoned, raped, left to cross a freaking desert to finally find a safe haven, only to have the same kid come and threaten your peace (because come on, wherever Lala Ru is, it's not safe anymore.)
Besides, I'd have a hard time not hitting her too. She annoys me xP

I just hope Abelia stops being so blindly devoted to Hamdo and someone finishes him soon (for some strange reason, I'd like to see Nabuca doing this). But I have a feeling this anime will not have a happy ending D:
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Geh, I thought I would be happy to see Sara, but now I hope she dies.
I mean understand why she attacked, but it was a little too much.
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Mar 1, 2011 2:08 AM
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I think sara has every right to fear everyone. She is certainly the character in the show that has gone through the most hell. She is being very careful.



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I always love the epic ship "take off" scenes.
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Geh, I thought I would be happy to see Sara, but now I hope she dies.
I mean understand why she attacked, but it was a little too much.


She goes through all that and you think her hitting the girl she was mistaken for "is too much"? I really don't know what to think about this. Sure, it isn't Lala-Ru's fault, but learn to see the other side a little man. Jesus.

Anyway, good episode. I especially liked the scene at the begnning between Lala-ru and the child. Watching Nabuca in that take off scene makes me wonder exactly what he's thinking there, he definitely seems uncertain for sure.
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Sara going berserk! Damn good to see she's okey, but fuck she revealed LalaRu's name and also DAFUQ it can fly O_O oh this can be interesting! Lets see what's next!
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My god it's Sara and she punched Lala Ru the hell out. Wow lol.

The more episodes Hamdo continues to live the more frustrated I feel.
Jul 15, 2013 1:30 PM
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Poor Sara. After the hell she's been through, she probably thought she was making a new start in Zari Bars, and who should appear but the very girl that indirectly was at the root of her previous situation. It's no wonder she snapped and it won't be a surprise if she never trusts Lala Ru.

I don't understand why a competent and beautiful woman like Abelia follows a lunatic like Hamdo blindly. It's clear that if she was in charge, the people of Hellywood would have a much better life and could actually dominate the planet.
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HawthorneKitty said:
Geh, I thought I would be happy to see Sara, but now I hope she dies.
I mean understand why she attacked, but it was a little too much.


She goes through all that and you think her hitting the girl she was mistaken for "is too much"? I really don't know what to think about this. Sure, it isn't Lala-Ru's fault, but learn to see the other side a little man. Jesus.

Anyway, good episode. I especially liked the scene at the begnning between Lala-ru and the child. Watching Nabuca in that take off scene makes me wonder exactly what he's thinking there, he definitely seems uncertain for sure.


So Abelia kidnaps Sara wrongly, the soldiers rape her without a second thought, and Lala-Ru is the one that should get hit for it? It makes complete sense that Sara might blame Lala-Ru for all the troubles she's gone through, but it's hypocritical to not look at this from Lala-Ru's perspective too: She has never even met Sara before and had no involvement in directly making her suffer. So it doesn't really make sense to say "Lala-Ru deserved to get hit."
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Wasn't expecting that.
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insan3soldiern said:
HawthorneKitty said:
Geh, I thought I would be happy to see Sara, but now I hope she dies.
I mean understand why she attacked, but it was a little too much.


She goes through all that and you think her hitting the girl she was mistaken for "is too much"? I really don't know what to think about this. Sure, it isn't Lala-Ru's fault, but learn to see the other side a little man. Jesus.

Anyway, good episode. I especially liked the scene at the begnning between Lala-ru and the child. Watching Nabuca in that take off scene makes me wonder exactly what he's thinking there, he definitely seems uncertain for sure.


So Abelia kidnaps Sara wrongly, the soldiers rape her without a second thought, and Lala-Ru is the one that should get hit for it? It makes complete sense that Sara might blame Lala-Ru for all the troubles she's gone through, but it's hypocritical to not look at this from Lala-Ru's perspective too: She has never even met Sara before and had no involvement in directly making her suffer. So it doesn't really make sense to say "Lala-Ru deserved to get hit."


i wont say that Lala deserved it but i cant blame Sara either, after the hell she went through i doubt she gonna bother to think in anothers perspective
Nov 26, 2013 4:10 PM

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Wow, that scene. Anyways, I'm curious, does Sara hate Shu as well? Anyways, surprised to see her out and about like that, thought she would still be some kind of cripple sort of . . .
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I'm glad Sara's alive after all. But I hope the two of them will eventually
start to feel empathy for each other, share the pain both of them feel.
Nov 17, 2014 10:50 PM

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*sigh*
Everything about this show is done right but the astounding amount of times I have to yell bullshit for characters like Hamdo, Abelia, and Sara is disgustingly high. Sara is only a tragic character for the sake of being tragic, she has no excuse to even be there. Hamdo should have died from the assassins a couple episodes ago and is completely flat and shitty excuse for a fictional character. Abelia finding the superhuman strength to push the wheel "suddenly lifting the entire ship" is retardedly gimmicky and the fact that she follows the loon without any explanation almost makes me want to give this anime a 4. If Hamdo doesn't die by the next episode I'm giving this a 5 or even lower. I love the atmosphere and how the anime presents clashing ideals between Shu and society but if Hamdo becomes the main plot point then I really can't like this show.
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Not sure why, but the scene before the op made me feel like crying. Maybe it is the innocence of that child in the messed up world, same goes to the scene where the four of them were playing.

I knew that soldier was an infiltrator the moment he showed up. Looks like we'll be seeing some battle scenes in the next episodes.

Don't really understand the Hellywood scene...just a single lever to save the whole "ship"? That's kinda weird...

Glad that Sara is OK, she seem to be one of the more realistic characters in the anime (unlike that Shu who has super regeneration powers)
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Well, the cat's out of the bag now. I wonder what the people of Zari Bars will do now that they know she's Lala Ru. Or I wonder if Shu will try to cover it up somehow.

Also, I bet we're heading towards a big final battle with Hellywood on the way to their town. There's no way that Hamdo can win, though, right? The good guys always win.
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Zari Bars, the place where every single lost person in the huge desert ends up, but that Hamdo hasn't been able to find for years!

RafaelDeJongh said:
DAFUQ it can fly O_O


Someone hasn't been paying attention for like, the entire series...

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Everything about this show is done right but the astounding amount of times I have to yell bullshit for characters like Hamdo, Abelia, and Sara is disgustingly high. Sara is only a tragic character for the sake of being tragic, she has no excuse to even be there. Hamdo should have died from the assassins a couple episodes ago and is completely flat and shitty excuse for a fictional character. Abelia finding the superhuman strength to push the wheel "suddenly lifting the entire ship" is retardedly gimmicky and the fact that she follows the loon without any explanation almost makes me want to give this anime a 4. If Hamdo doesn't die by the next episode I'm giving this a 5 or even lower. I love the atmosphere and how the anime presents clashing ideals between Shu and society but if Hamdo becomes the main plot point then I really can't like this show.


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Geh, I thought I would be happy to see Sara, but now I hope she dies.
I mean understand why she attacked, but it was a little too much.


She's gone though hell and you say she has to die....... .......... -_-... your a clueless idiot
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Poor sara .... shu is so naive... He thinks he knows it all but he really doesn't know shit sara went though.

He says.... It's a new life and tries to convince her not to kill it.......... who the hell does he think he is .......

First off she has the right to do so if she wants to.
Second it is a baby that hasn't got a father
Third she never asked for it
4th she is only a young girl.... 14 or something
5th shu should mind his own business
6th lala ru might not be responsible for saras misery... but it's understandable she hates the girl that was mistaken for her
7th....... lala ru hasn't done shit though out this series so far...And isn't interesting.
8th sara is the most interesting character
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I just hate how naive shu is... his so clueless
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Lots of arguing over whether Sara was justified in attacking Lala Ru. At this point, I'm just glad we had an interesting twist. I think it was the right move for the story, but I don't have a clue how the show handles it from here.

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Bruh no way Hellywood should've been able to make that, but it did, and now it's on its way to fuck up everyone in it's path. Glad Sara's back, then she beat the shit out of Lala Ru which I guess makes sense in the idea that it's pretty realistic in her reaction of putting all the blame on her, which is somewhat true
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I feel like I saw that spy soldier somewhere before... Was he the guy that picked up Sara's handkerchief and put it beside her while Sara was imprisoned and later proceeded to rape her?
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It's absolutely understandable that Sara blames Lalaru for all the pain she had to suffer. That was so heartwrenching. :(
I wonder why they would ever mistake Sara for her?
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RavenWish said:
[...] Glad that Sara is OK, she seem to be one of the more realistic characters in the anime (unlike that Shu who has super regeneration powers)


exactly my thoughts xD
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This episode was a big yikes from me. The Hellywood soldier infiltration, Sara beating down Lalaru, all of it. Everything's about to get fucked, mates.



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I can only hope Sis and Shu die the most painful way possible. Worthless idiots are causing other to die because of their stupidity.
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I figured that Hellywood soldier was faking, it was painfully obvious actually. Well, I guess everyone's screwed now.

The Hellywood liftoff scene was intense, though not as exciting as I had hoped. They actually did a double twist, Hellywood failed to take off... and then it didn't. I don't care what script-bending powers Abelia has, a fuel tank exploded, there's no way in hell that hunk of junk could stay airborne.

Damn, now everyone in Zari Bars will know who Lala Ru is. I have a bad feeling about this, a very bad feeling...
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So this towns gonna get completely obliterated next episode right? I'm enjoying this show, but it's a bit too predictable for it's own good.

Sara reacting to lala rue was definitely the best part of the episode.

I will defend Abelia confusing Sara for Lala rue tho. She was probably just looking for a blonde girl in japan. Who knows when if ever was the last time she saw lala rue
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Couldn't hold my tears at that scene when Shu was pretending to be the father of Soon, given what happened to him...

Leaving the "deserter" alone was not a good idea, it seems.

Sara is still horrified by Lala-Ru. That's probably PTSD.

Still can't get people hating the characters for no reason whatsoever. They exist in their own world and don't owe you an explanation of their actions on demand.
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Everything about this show is done right but the astounding amount of times I have to yell bullshit for characters like Hamdo, Abelia, and Sara is disgustingly high. Sara is only a tragic character for the sake of being tragic, she has no excuse to even be there. Hamdo should have died from the assassins a couple episodes ago and is completely flat and shitty excuse for a fictional character. Abelia finding the superhuman strength to push the wheel "suddenly lifting the entire ship" is retardedly gimmicky and the fact that she follows the loon without any explanation almost makes me want to give this anime a 4. If Hamdo doesn't die by the next episode I'm giving this a 5 or even lower. I love the atmosphere and how the anime presents clashing ideals between Shu and society but if Hamdo becomes the main plot point then I really can't like this show.


Yup, the show doesn't really explain much. He's so comical idk why anyone would follow him. Most dictators at least had charisma.
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This is why you never trust "deserters", especially when their first question is if they discovered the enemy location, and there's only one of them. Also, it was a shame Hellywood didn't crash and burn then when the launch sequence was faulty — Abelia somehow pulls a single lever and fixes everything.

Sara attacking Lala Ru like that was unwarranted, but I guess the trauma and anger took over, and she needed someone to take it out on. Maybe she'll eventually get a chance for revenge against the ugly rapist guy? Probably not, that would be too convenient.




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They went through all that trouble just to let that guy be unguarded while he sleeps. I mean at least make it so he’s sneaky about it, this is just irresponsible.

Sara going unhinged was appropriate but at the same time it wasn’t Lala-Ru fault either and beating her is not going to do anything. I have a bad feeling for the next episode but we’re in the home stretch.

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