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Apr 23, 2021 6:01 PM
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I just finished the series and im so confused as to why they did so much to save the kids like is there a reason? the kids are immortal anyways. i mean sure they feel pain but why would they go through so much effort to get the kids to be safe. maybe I missed a bit where they explained? help me understand please haha
Apr 23, 2021 7:43 PM
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It really just swindlers conscious if we are being honest here. She felt as if it was the right thing to do. Nobody wants to see kids in pain or suffering. That’s what I believe.
Apr 23, 2021 9:35 PM
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They really don’t have a purpose now that they did their job. They can’t really return home or anything cause they are wanted criminals. And honestly just ditching the kids would be kinda scummy.
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Apr 24, 2021 12:38 AM
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Swindler in her effort to save those two kids has indirectly killed more people than anyone in this series. Not so sure if that was worth it.
She became an actual villain.
Apr 24, 2021 1:37 AM
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Piromysl said:
Swindler in her effort to save those two kids has indirectly killed more people than anyone in this series. Not so sure if that was worth it.
She became an actual villain.


Never thought of it like that, interesting.
Apr 24, 2021 1:57 AM
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Spoopy69 said:
I just finished the series and im so confused as to why they did so much to save the kids like is there a reason? the kids are immortal anyways. i mean sure they feel pain but why would they go through so much effort to get the kids to be safe. maybe I missed a bit where they explained? help me understand please haha


It was shown in Episode 11, Kanto wanted to upload its system into the kids. This would have wiped their minds and identities, basically "killing" them.
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Apr 24, 2021 8:55 AM
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The kids are inmortal but if they didn't protect them they were going to be used as slaves in Kanto's system for life.
Also they are criminals,they have nowhere to go.
Apr 24, 2021 9:15 AM
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Just to expand on what other people are saying, I think the answer lies in the effect that swindler had on the people that interacted with her!

To keep it short: Swindler got wrapped up into something she didn't belong in to begin with, so she had a sense of marality most characters lacked in this series. She never lost this sense of morality, and maybe she saw herself in these children, essentially wrapped up in something they didn't understand/never belonged in to begin with. Also, Swindler's morality just through presence was contagious.

Tl;dr: Swindler didn't belong in this scheme/world, neither did the children: both just fell into it by circumstance. Her sense of what was right and wrong drove her to do exactly what she did, and rubbed off on those that interacted with her. Maybe that's what being the Swindler meant?
Apr 24, 2021 2:34 PM
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Piromysl said:
Swindler in her effort to save those two kids has indirectly killed more people than anyone in this series. Not so sure if that was worth it.
She became an actual villain.

I don’t think she became a villain but she actually helped spread the caos that was always near by since the akudama system was really unstable since it was based in a fragile concept of good or evil. The system classified her as evil then she got no choice but act that way.
Apr 24, 2021 3:18 PM

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vivi_magica_ said:
Piromysl said:
Swindler in her effort to save those two kids has indirectly killed more people than anyone in this series. Not so sure if that was worth it.
She became an actual villain.

I don’t think she became a villain but she actually helped spread the caos that was always near by since the akudama system was really unstable since it was based in a fragile concept of good or evil. The system classified her as evil then she got no choice but act that way.


That can be applied any character ever. Obviously, if she would decide not to return a penny to Courier, nothing would happen.
But ultimately, she chose to instigate a riot, in which she knew countless people would die, just so two kids would get away. She even sacrificed her own life to ensure riots will be a thing.
Cutthroat clearly noticed her change for the worse over the series, which was a direct indication, that she in fact became evil.
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Apr 25, 2021 11:09 PM
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Piromysl said:
vivi_magica_ said:

I don’t think she became a villain but she actually helped spread the caos that was always near by since the akudama system was really unstable since it was based in a fragile concept of good or evil. The system classified her as evil then she got no choice but act that way.


That can be applied any character ever. Obviously, if she would decide not to return a penny to Courier, nothing would happen.
But ultimately, she chose to instigate a riot, in which she knew countless people would die, just so two kids would get away. She even sacrificed her own life to ensure riots will be a thing.
Cutthroat clearly noticed her change for the worse over the series, which was a direct indication, that she in fact became evil.


Yep, that can be applied to any character in the show. And that’s the main point of the plot. The system is the one to blame. If we say she is evil because she chose to save two innocent kids from eternal slavery aren’t we the same as the akudama system? Also saying the life of two kids are less important than the people who died in the riot goes like the trolley problem, there’s no right answer
Apr 30, 2021 9:55 PM
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From the beginning you can tell that Swindler likes to care for things that are in harms way, seen when she risks her life twice saving both cats in the first episode. As to why they went so far to save the kids, well, it was the job wasn’t it? Swindler got attached and cared for the kids enough to finish the job and Courier always finishes his job. That’s why they didn’t give up. The job was to help the kids escape and it took the entire show to do so.
Sep 19, 2021 10:31 AM
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Those all are not saving only those kids,they do that work for their own profit like money, interest, passion, and for enjoying. But only swindler is saving those kids except from any profit only for humanity.
Oct 7, 2021 5:28 AM
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All was doing that because of money but, swindler is very kind person so she is doing that for humanity.
Dec 18, 2021 4:50 PM
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Piromysl said:
Swindler in her effort to save those two kids has indirectly killed more people than anyone in this series. Not so sure if that was worth it.
She became an actual villain.


I gotta disagree, most of the people that died were either Executioners or died because the Executioners are a bunch of A-holes.

Swindler herself started inadvertently started a Revolution against a Fascist government(which was also caused by the Governments corrupt practices). That's nothing short of heroic
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I gotta disagree, most of the people that died were either Executioners or died because the Executioners are a bunch of A-holes.

Swindler herself started inadvertently started a Revolution against a Fascist government(which was also caused by the Governments corrupt practices). That's nothing short of heroic


Are you seriously gonna argue with me, that starting a massacre in which absolutely NOBODY is going to end up victorious is somehow "heroic" and lives of those two kids were somehow more valuable (besides their immortality) than any other innocent civilian who were killed in the riots? That's ludicrous, but I kind of get the idea where you and Swindler may get it from. She only cares about those two kids because they are right in front of her and she got to know them. She doesn't give a shit about the death and destruction she caused and any of the innocent people she indirectly killed because out of sight, out of mind. That's actually borderlines on dark triad territory.

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