What do you not understand

Apr 18, 2021 6:25 AM

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Only shounen tards can't understand what's going on in 86

Apr 18, 2021 7:02 AM

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melxek said:
I often see people, write that they don't understand 86, but I don't really understand what is so hard to understand. Can someone explain?

Tbh I was kinda lost too, all those terms and names got me confused at first but after a couple of rewatches I was able to get most of it.

You really have to pay attention to the dialogues especially in the first episode.

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Apr 18, 2021 7:08 AM

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Tbh its those shows where you need to pay close attention to what they are saying in the introduction in order to get a gist of what is happening later on in the story and they are also not going to repeat it time to time again.

Apr 18, 2021 7:10 AM

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You know this anime reminds me a lot like ghost in the shell.

Apr 18, 2021 7:16 AM

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titan_fullbuster said:
Only shounen tards can't understand what's going on in 86

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Its pretty easy to understand if you pay a bit of attention.

Apr 18, 2021 7:17 AM

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There's nothing that's hard to understand in this anime.Just that most people watching anime don't seem to give attention to dialogue as much and missing one dialogue where someone explains why 86 are not considered people,they won't figure it out for the rest of the anime...

Apr 18, 2021 7:24 AM

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There is nothing even to understand right now

Apr 18, 2021 7:55 AM

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Can I get a synopsis? I’ve been meaning to check it out.

Apr 18, 2021 8:01 AM

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Xsadersadd said:

titan_fullbuster said:
Only shounen tards can't understand what's going on in 86

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Its pretty easy to understand if you pay a bit of attention.

I mean to be fair you are caught up with the LN...

I think what people mean when they say "This is hard to understand" is them saying that the anime doesn't explain a lot of the reasoning behind everything in the anime.

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Apr 18, 2021 8:05 AM

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I was a bit lost at first on what the legion was, don't know if it was explained on episode 1 but I only understood that those were AI controlled drones -and the whole empire got destroyed story) during the classroom scene on episode 2, which explained nicely some plot points I had interrogations about. (before that I was wondering if we we're going to see a perspective from the other side, doesn't look that way now).

I hope they present some other aspect later on the Serie: how 86 lives outside of the military, how are they drafted and characters backstory of course.

Apr 18, 2021 8:10 AM

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I was thinking the same thing, it's pretty simple to me.

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Apr 18, 2021 8:22 AM

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Can I get a synopsis? I’ve been meaning to check it out.

Just check it's MAL page

Apr 18, 2021 9:09 AM

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Only shonentards wouldn’t understand.

Apr 18, 2021 11:38 AM

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Mostly why this series is hyped up by LN readers... can’t understand it. At least based on the first 2 episodes.

Personally I just think A1 Pictures hasn’t made a good adaptation because what I’m watching is severely disappointing and somehow the comedy scenes are a lot better executed than the drama and world building.

Apr 18, 2021 11:57 AM

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Johnny00 said:
Mostly why this series is hyped up by LN readers... can’t understand it. At least based on the first 2 episodes.

Personally I just think A1 Pictures hasn’t made a good adaptation because what I’m watching is severely disappointing and somehow the comedy scenes are a lot better executed than the drama and world building.

Most of the world building and history is explained by a narrator in the novel. If they gave information in the anime the same way its explained in the novel the anime would be shit.

That scene where Lena was lecturing a class was anime original. Simply because they had to find a way to explain all that information without having an annoying narrator info dump a shit ton of information.

There is only so much A-1 Pictures can do to keep them anime enjoyable for most viewers. Its a good adaptation so far.

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Apr 18, 2021 1:06 PM

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I thought it was all explained in the summary of the show here on MAL. Why not read it for once?

Also, the show does make the setting pretty clear from the first episode unless you'd literally sleep instead of watching. Nothing difficult at all, I've seen much more complicated shows than this.

Maybe the people who find this complicated have only watched Black Clover type of shows where the narrator explains the world several times before each episode starts?
(fyi, I don't hate Black Clover)

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Apr 18, 2021 1:14 PM

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One of the main goals of an anime adaptation is to advertise the source material. Due to time constraint and the limitation of each episode, the producers can only fit so much content in each episode.

Hence, the anime is gear towards the light novel readers and prospective ones.

I like dub more than sub because I am not a weeb.

Apr 18, 2021 2:07 PM

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Johnny00 said:
Mostly why this series is hyped up by LN readers... can’t understand it. At least based on the first 2 episodes.

Personally I just think A1 Pictures hasn’t made a good adaptation because what I’m watching is severely disappointing and somehow the comedy scenes are a lot better executed than the drama and world building.

Idk, it's pretty clear. I like it better when the explanations come up in natural conversation as in 86, and revealing more as more natural conversations happen throughout the series, rather than stepping back to explain something extensively, since that doesn't seem like something characters interacting a world would do. It was a smart play to have that classroom scene, cause it seems like a good reason why someone would go out of their way to explain as Lena did.

Apr 18, 2021 3:22 PM

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KanekiKen101 said:

Johnny00 said:
Mostly why this series is hyped up by LN readers... can’t understand it. At least based on the first 2 episodes.

Personally I just think A1 Pictures hasn’t made a good adaptation because what I’m watching is severely disappointing and somehow the comedy scenes are a lot better executed than the drama and world building.

Idk, it's pretty clear. I like it better when the explanations come up in natural conversation as in 86, and revealing more as more natural conversations happen throughout the series, rather than stepping back to explain something extensively, since that doesn't seem like something characters interacting a world would do. It was a smart play to have that classroom scene, cause it seems like a good reason why someone would go out of their way to explain as Lena did.

I wasn't a big fan of the classroom scene since that does change her character in some ways. In the novel, she wasn't that headstrong in convincing people on the perils of the system, but more so focus on doing what she can with being a handler.

I like dub more than sub because I am not a weeb.

Apr 18, 2021 6:12 PM

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Maybe the dialogue heavy style loses them

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Apr 18, 2021 6:26 PM

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Conceptualhero said:
One of the main goals of an anime adaptation is to advertise the source material. Due to time constraint and the limitation of each episode, the producers can only fit so much content in each episode.

Hence, the anime is gear towards the light novel readers and prospective ones.

That could be the case since it's a very valid reason, but so far everything that was presented makes sense, to me at least. It'll take people to be fully attentive to understand, that's it. The LN readers are not complaining which means that the adaptation, thus far, is not leaving out important elements of the story.

I sometimes forget to finish my sentences.

Apr 18, 2021 7:17 PM

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This anime is kindly easy to be understood. I'm so far enjoying it, and can be really invested into 86.

Apr 18, 2021 7:51 PM

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samashi20 said:

Conceptualhero said:
One of the main goals of an anime adaptation is to advertise the source material. Due to time constraint and the limitation of each episode, the producers can only fit so much content in each episode.

Hence, the anime is gear towards the light novel readers and prospective ones.

That could be the case since it's a very valid reason, but so far everything that was presented makes sense, to me at least. It'll take people to be fully attentive to understand, that's it. The LN readers are not complaining which means that the adaptation, thus far, is not leaving out important elements of the story.

You think so? I might be a bit bias since I have finished volume 1 (Currently rereading it since it was so good the first time around). I will have to watch the last two episodes a couple of times and put myself in the shoes of someone new to the series.

I find it understandable why people are so confused though. The anime does skip out some interesting tidbits in chapter 1 that pertains to worldbuilding. It isn't that important, but it does give some context to the setting of the series. It is why I am a firm believer that people should compliment an anime with the source material, especially if the series was adapted from a light novel.

ConceptualheroApr 18, 2021 7:57 PM

I like dub more than sub because I am not a weeb.

Apr 18, 2021 7:58 PM

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Conceptualhero said:

KanekiKen101 said:

Idk, it's pretty clear. I like it better when the explanations come up in natural conversation as in 86, and revealing more as more natural conversations happen throughout the series, rather than stepping back to explain something extensively, since that doesn't seem like something characters interacting a world would do. It was a smart play to have that classroom scene, cause it seems like a good reason why someone would go out of their way to explain as Lena did.

I wasn't a big fan of the classroom scene since that does change her character in some ways. In the novel, she wasn't that headstrong in convincing people on the perils of the system, but more so focus on doing what she can with being a handler.

Agreed 100 percent. It skips all of the development Lena goes through as a character. Honestly, it would have been better if they kept the scene with her having breakfast with her mom and meeting with her uncle. It covers pretty much the same info, but without the same aggressiveness.

Apr 18, 2021 8:03 PM

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titan_fullbuster said:
Only shounen tards can't understand what's going on in 86

what the fuck does shonentards have to do with 86

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Apr 18, 2021 8:22 PM

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Conceptualhero said:

samashi20 said:

That could be the case since it's a very valid reason, but so far everything that was presented makes sense, to me at least. It'll take people to be fully attentive to understand, that's it. The LN readers are not complaining which means that the adaptation, thus far, is not leaving out important elements of the story.

You think so? I might be a bit bias since I have finished volume 1 (Currently rereading it since it was so good the first time around). I will have to watch the last two episodes a couple of times and put myself in the shoes of someone new to the series.

I find it understandable why people are so confused though. The anime does skip out some interesting tidbits in chapter 1 that pertains to worldbuilding. It isn't that important, but it does give some context to the setting of the series. It is why I am a firm believer that people should compliment an anime with the source material, especially if the series was adapted from a light novel.

I do see myself reading the LN as soon as the anime finishes airing because when I checked, it was really popular and many readers recommended it.

I sometimes forget to finish my sentences.

Apr 18, 2021 10:07 PM

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Conceptualhero said:

KanekiKen101 said:

Idk, it's pretty clear. I like it better when the explanations come up in natural conversation as in 86, and revealing more as more natural conversations happen throughout the series, rather than stepping back to explain something extensively, since that doesn't seem like something characters interacting a world would do. It was a smart play to have that classroom scene, cause it seems like a good reason why someone would go out of their way to explain as Lena did.

I wasn't a big fan of the classroom scene since that does change her character in some ways. In the novel, she wasn't that headstrong in convincing people on the perils of the system, but more so focus on doing what she can with being a handler.

In a way, yea I agree with that. But in an anime medium, I doubt they can have the narration and wording that a light novel typically does, so they have to find some way to convey that information. Though, I'm just making a guess about that cause I'm anime only and have no clue how the LNs are written.

Apr 18, 2021 10:20 PM

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Agreed on the classroom bit but it did show what might have happened in ep.1 if Anette hadn't intervened.

Apr 21, 2021 4:01 PM

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I don't understand why the protagonist said that the San Magnolia army was destroyed in two weeks. But the city survived and then its citizens built a wall. Against tank weapons and artillery.

Apr 22, 2021 2:47 AM

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Xopgoblin45 said:
I don't understand why the protagonist said that the San Magnolia army was destroyed in two weeks. But the city survived and then its citizens built a wall. Against tank weapons and artillery.

You are expecting too much from a light novel author who is more concerned with how to make cute military uniform for his cute waifu girl.

This shit reminds me of Altina, Sword Princess, the worst first chapter military-centric novel I have ever had the displeasure of reading.

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Apr 22, 2021 3:14 AM

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Xopgoblin45 said:
I don't understand why the protagonist said that the San Magnolia army was destroyed in two weeks. But the city survived and then its citizens built a wall. Against tank weapons and artillery.

Well I think it's quite obvious. San Magnolia was much bigger than what you see now. The army got defeated, and the outer parts of the country got evacuated, built a wall around the remaining 85 districts and the rest was melted into the 86th district.

Apr 22, 2021 3:24 AM

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Is it a good adaptation so far? The LN subreddit has been hyping 86 up since forever and I was gonna wait for the anime, but if A-1 is glossing over world-building then might as well read.

Apr 22, 2021 3:30 AM

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Is it a good adaptation so far? The LN subreddit has been hyping 86 up since forever and I was gonna wait for the anime, but if A-1 is glossing over world-building then might as well read.

I have not read the LN, but planning to. Also what I've been told / heard that the Anime is "show more, less tell" style than the LN. I heard that the LN takes a lot of time explaining enemy types, weapon types, world building, exposition. In the first 2 episodes there were no such thing in the anime.

The anime instead of giving you a narration regarding the situation, it gives you a news report where the situation is explained, or shows you a history classroom where recent events are told.

Apr 22, 2021 7:38 AM

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Eanki said:

Xopgoblin45 said:
I don't understand why the protagonist said that the San Magnolia army was destroyed in two weeks. But the city survived and then its citizens built a wall. Against tank weapons and artillery.

You are expecting too much from a light novel author who is more concerned with how to make cute military uniform for his cute waifu girl.

This shit reminds me of Altina, Sword Princess, the worst first chapter military-centric novel I have ever had the displeasure of reading.

Author is female btw . And don't shit on author if you don't understand something quite obvious.

Apr 22, 2021 10:38 AM

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Pranavk27 said:

Eanki said:

You are expecting too much from a light novel author who is more concerned with how to make cute military uniform for his cute waifu girl.

This shit reminds me of Altina, Sword Princess, the worst first chapter military-centric novel I have ever had the displeasure of reading.

Author is female btw . And don't shit on author if you don't understand something quite obvious.

You fell for a troll's bait.

I like dub more than sub because I am not a weeb.

Apr 22, 2021 12:50 PM

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melxek said:
I often see people, write that they don't understand 86, but I don't really understand what is so hard to understand. Can som the

melxek said:
I often see people, write that they don't understand 86, but I don't really understand what is so hard to understand. Can someone explain?

eone explain?

I think that people don't get the general premise of the anime yet. Having read the LN, I would recommend reading the first few chapters of the first volume to get a grasp on the plot of the show. However, watching 2 more episodes might make it clear considering the pace of the anime.

Apr 22, 2021 8:58 PM

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Pranavk27 said:

Eanki said:

You are expecting too much from a light novel author who is more concerned with how to make cute military uniform for his cute waifu girl.

This shit reminds me of Altina, Sword Princess, the worst first chapter military-centric novel I have ever had the displeasure of reading.

Author is female btw . And don't shit on author if you don't understand something quite obvious.

Spare me. There is nothing confusing about this. I'm not shitting on the author because I don't understand her work. I'm saying her ability to research things before writing about them is not even close to Tom Clancy caliber. She needs to do some goddamn research on how wars are conducted.

Conceptualhero said:

Pranavk27 said:

Author is female btw . And don't shit on author if you don't understand something quite obvious.

You fell for a troll's bait.

Yes, legitimate criticisms against shows you like is just trolling.

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Apr 22, 2021 9:19 PM

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Eanki said:

Pranavk27 said:

Author is female btw . And don't shit on author if you don't understand something quite obvious.

Spare me. There is nothing confusing about this. I'm not shitting on the author because I don't understand her work. I'm saying her ability to research things before writing about them is not even close to Tom Clancy caliber. She needs to do some goddamn research on how wars are conducted.

Conceptualhero said:

You fell for a troll's bait.

Yes, legitimate criticisms against shows you like is just trolling.

You didn't understand something quite obvious and blaming author for she didn't do her research. You need to do your research properly mate .

Apr 22, 2021 9:30 PM

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Pranavk27 said:

Eanki said:

Spare me. There is nothing confusing about this. I'm not shitting on the author because I don't understand her work. I'm saying her ability to research things before writing about them is not even close to Tom Clancy caliber. She needs to do some goddamn research on how wars are conducted.

Yes, legitimate criticisms against shows you like is just trolling.

You didn't understand something quite obvious and blaming author for she didn't do her research. You need to do your research properly mate .

I'm currently reading Team Yankee, a mostly first person perspective of a US tank battalion in the frontlines of a fictional WWIII written by a former US army major from the armored force. And honestly, if I can take his team into the combat grounds of 86, I'll be a bonafide god of war. It physically pains me to see her unit deployments and it would not shock me if the question of how San Magnolia survives under the logistical and material constraints of a war like this will not be sufficiently addressed in the future.

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Apr 22, 2021 10:04 PM

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Eanki said:

Pranavk27 said:

You didn't understand something quite obvious and blaming author for she didn't do her research. You need to do your research properly mate .

I'm currently reading Team Yankee, a mostly first person perspective of a US tank battalion in the frontlines of a fictional WWIII written by a former US army major from the armored force. And honestly, if I can take his team into the combat grounds of 86, I'll be a bonafide god of war. It physically pains me to see her unit deployments and it would not shock me if the question of how San Magnolia survives under the logistical and material constraints of a war like this will not be sufficiently addressed in the future.

I think anime will give just explanation but if you want to go more in depth I reccomend reading the LN cause some tidbits are left out which is not necessary for main story but it will enhance the experience.

Apr 23, 2021 12:41 AM

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Eanki said:

Pranavk27 said:

You didn't understand something quite obvious and blaming author for she didn't do her research. You need to do your research properly mate .

I'm currently reading Team Yankee, a mostly first person perspective of a US tank battalion in the frontlines of a fictional WWIII written by a former US army major from the armored force. And honestly, if I can take his team into the combat grounds of 86, I'll be a bonafide god of war. It physically pains me to see her unit deployments and it would not shock me if the question of how San Magnolia survives under the logistical and material constraints of a war like this will not be sufficiently addressed in the future.

Are you sreious? You really are comparing a more realistic WWIII situation to a Sci-fi / fictional story where you have spider/mechs as a weapon? I mean.... you do realise that the weapons that 86 uses are vastly different from tanks?
- It's way more mobile than tanks. In ep2 you could see them climbing walls, jumping, dashing, or do rapid left/right movements. Tanks cannot do this.
- The juggernauts which the 86's use are vastly under armored compared to a modern tank.
- In a realistic situation an armored division usually have an infarntry division as a support. I won't even mention air forces. Both are ommited here.
So maybe having a different deployment strategy comes down to this, don't you think? Also she is a newly promoted major at the of age 16. You expecting a rookie officer to do flawless job in strategy? And in a WWIII setting you usually fight against enemies in similar compisition. Don't you think that having a different deployement strategy comes down all of this? Also thinking of having another tank batallion from another fictional setting making you god of war is just no comment.

For the second part, I kinda have to agree with you. I hope those 2 will be adressed. As far I saw from episode 1, they use artificially produced food, so the answer for the food issue is kinda there, but yes I would also like some answers on how the 86-ers can handle this war with their manpower. I mean living on the front, I don't think many would decide to have a baby, and this war is quite costly manpower wise.

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Apr 23, 2021 2:07 AM

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AnimeLeviathan said:

Xsadersadd said:

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Its pretty easy to understand if you pay a bit of attention.

I mean to be fair you are caught up with the LN...

I think what people mean when they say "This is hard to understand" is them saying that the anime doesn't explain a lot of the reasoning behind everything in the anime.

Buts that’s kind of the point. Figuring out the current situation is one of the reasons why I like these sort of futuristic/dystopian shows.

Apr 23, 2021 2:07 AM

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AnimeLeviathan said:

Xsadersadd said:

based

Its pretty easy to understand if you pay a bit of attention.

I mean to be fair you are caught up with the LN...

I think what people mean when they say "This is hard to understand" is them saying that the anime doesn't explain a lot of the reasoning behind everything in the anime.

Buts that’s kind of the point. Figuring out the current situation is one of the reasons why I like these sort of futuristic/dystopian shows.

Apr 23, 2021 2:09 AM

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UTMAN said:

Eanki said:

I'm currently reading Team Yankee, a mostly first person perspective of a US tank battalion in the frontlines of a fictional WWIII written by a former US army major from the armored force. And honestly, if I can take his team into the combat grounds of 86, I'll be a bonafide god of war. It physically pains me to see her unit deployments and it would not shock me if the question of how San Magnolia survives under the logistical and material constraints of a war like this will not be sufficiently addressed in the future.

Are you sreious? You really are comparing a more realistic WWIII situation to a Sci-fi / fictional story where you have spider/mechs as a weapon? I mean.... you do realise that the weapons that 86 uses are vastly different from tanks?
- It's way more mobile than tanks. In ep2 you could see them climbing walls, jumping, dashing, or do rapid left/right movements. Tanks cannot do this.
- The drones in 86 are vastly under armored compared to a modern tank.
- In a realistic situation an armored division usually have an infarntry division as a support. I won't even mention air forces. Both are ommited here.
So maybe having a different deployment strategy comes down to this, don't you think? Also she is a newly promoted major at the of age 16. You expecting a rookie officer to do flawless job in strategy? And in a WWIII setting you usually fight against enemies in similar compisition. Don't you think that having a different deployement strategy comes down all of this? Also thinking of having another tank batallion from another fictional setting making you god of war is just no comment.

For the second part, I kinda have to agree with you. I hope those 2 will be adressed. As far I saw from episode 1, they use artificially produced food, so the answer for the food issue is kinda there, but yes I would also like some answers on how the 86-ers can handle this war with their manpower. I mean living on the front, I don't think many would decide to have a baby, and this war is quite costly manpower wise.

The armor on the drones is a lot better than you guys think...

Apr 23, 2021 2:10 AM

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This entire show is a subtle jab at Mississippi, and I enjoy it.

Apr 23, 2021 2:28 AM

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narium said:

UTMAN said:

Eanki said:

Pranavk27 said:

Eanki said:

Pranavk27 said:

Eanki said:

Xopgoblin45 said:
I don't understand why the protagonist said that the San Magnolia army was destroyed in two weeks. But the city survived and then its citizens built a wall. Against tank weapons and artillery.

You are expecting too much from a light novel author who is more concerned with how to make cute military uniform for his cute waifu girl.

This shit reminds me of Altina, Sword Princess, the worst first chapter military-centric novel I have ever had the displeasure of reading.

Author is female btw . And don't shit on author if you don't understand something quite obvious.

Spare me. There is nothing confusing about this. I'm not shitting on the author because I don't understand her work. I'm saying her ability to research things before writing about them is not even close to Tom Clancy caliber. She needs to do some goddamn research on how wars are conducted.

Conceptualhero said:

Pranavk27 said:

Eanki said:

Xopgoblin45 said:
I don't understand why the protagonist said that the San Magnolia army was destroyed in two weeks. But the city survived and then its citizens built a wall. Against tank weapons and artillery.

You are expecting too much from a light novel author who is more concerned with how to make cute military uniform for his cute waifu girl.

This shit reminds me of Altina, Sword Princess, the worst first chapter military-centric novel I have ever had the displeasure of reading.

Author is female btw . And don't shit on author if you don't understand something quite obvious.

You fell for a troll's bait.

Yes, legitimate criticisms against shows you like is just trolling.

You didn't understand something quite obvious and blaming author for she didn't do her research. You need to do your research properly mate .

I'm currently reading Team Yankee, a mostly first person perspective of a US tank battalion in the frontlines of a fictional WWIII written by a former US army major from the armored force. And honestly, if I can take his team into the combat grounds of 86, I'll be a bonafide god of war. It physically pains me to see her unit deployments and it would not shock me if the question of how San Magnolia survives under the logistical and material constraints of a war like this will not be sufficiently addressed in the future.

Are you sreious? You really are comparing a more realistic WWIII situation to a Sci-fi / fictional story where you have spider/mechs as a weapon? I mean.... you do realise that the weapons that 86 uses are vastly different from tanks?
- It's way more mobile than tanks. In ep2 you could see them climbing walls, jumping, dashing, or do rapid left/right movements. Tanks cannot do this.
- The drones in 86 are vastly under armored compared to a modern tank.
- In a realistic situation an armored division usually have an infarntry division as a support. I won't even mention air forces. Both are ommited here.
So maybe having a different deployment strategy comes down to this, don't you think? Also she is a newly promoted major at the of age 16. You expecting a rookie officer to do flawless job in strategy? And in a WWIII setting you usually fight against enemies in similar compisition. Don't you think that having a different deployement strategy comes down all of this? Also thinking of having another tank batallion from another fictional setting making you god of war is just no comment.

For the second part, I kinda have to agree with you. I hope those 2 will be adressed. As far I saw from episode 1, they use artificially produced food, so the answer for the food issue is kinda there, but yes I would also like some answers on how the 86-ers can handle this war with their manpower. I mean living on the front, I don't think many would decide to have a baby, and this war is quite costly manpower wise.

The armor on the drones is a lot better than you guys think...

By drone I meant the armor of the 86-ers drone, the juggernaut. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough.

Apr 23, 2021 2:33 AM

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narium

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UTMAN said:

narium said:

UTMAN said:

Eanki said:

Pranavk27 said:

Eanki said:

Pranavk27 said:

Eanki said:

Xopgoblin45 said:
I don't understand why the protagonist said that the San Magnolia army was destroyed in two weeks. But the city survived and then its citizens built a wall. Against tank weapons and artillery.

You are expecting too much from a light novel author who is more concerned with how to make cute military uniform for his cute waifu girl.

This shit reminds me of Altina, Sword Princess, the worst first chapter military-centric novel I have ever had the displeasure of reading.

Author is female btw . And don't shit on author if you don't understand something quite obvious.

Spare me. There is nothing confusing about this. I'm not shitting on the author because I don't understand her work. I'm saying her ability to research things before writing about them is not even close to Tom Clancy caliber. She needs to do some goddamn research on how wars are conducted.

Conceptualhero said:

Pranavk27 said:

Eanki said:

Xopgoblin45 said:
I don't understand why the protagonist said that the San Magnolia army was destroyed in two weeks. But the city survived and then its citizens built a wall. Against tank weapons and artillery.

You are expecting too much from a light novel author who is more concerned with how to make cute military uniform for his cute waifu girl.

This shit reminds me of Altina, Sword Princess, the worst first chapter military-centric novel I have ever had the displeasure of reading.

Author is female btw . And don't shit on author if you don't understand something quite obvious.

You fell for a troll's bait.

Yes, legitimate criticisms against shows you like is just trolling.

You didn't understand something quite obvious and blaming author for she didn't do her research. You need to do your research properly mate .

I'm currently reading Team Yankee, a mostly first person perspective of a US tank battalion in the frontlines of a fictional WWIII written by a former US army major from the armored force. And honestly, if I can take his team into the combat grounds of 86, I'll be a bonafide god of war. It physically pains me to see her unit deployments and it would not shock me if the question of how San Magnolia survives under the logistical and material constraints of a war like this will not be sufficiently addressed in the future.

Are you sreious? You really are comparing a more realistic WWIII situation to a Sci-fi / fictional story where you have spider/mechs as a weapon? I mean.... you do realise that the weapons that 86 uses are vastly different from tanks?
- It's way more mobile than tanks. In ep2 you could see them climbing walls, jumping, dashing, or do rapid left/right movements. Tanks cannot do this.
- The drones in 86 are vastly under armored compared to a modern tank.
- In a realistic situation an armored division usually have an infarntry division as a support. I won't even mention air forces. Both are ommited here.
So maybe having a different deployment strategy comes down to this, don't you think? Also she is a newly promoted major at the of age 16. You expecting a rookie officer to do flawless job in strategy? And in a WWIII setting you usually fight against enemies in similar compisition. Don't you think that having a different deployement strategy comes down all of this? Also thinking of having another tank batallion from another fictional setting making you god of war is just no comment.

For the second part, I kinda have to agree with you. I hope those 2 will be adressed. As far I saw from episode 1, they use artificially produced food, so the answer for the food issue is kinda there, but yes I would also like some answers on how the 86-ers can handle this war with their manpower. I mean living on the front, I don't think many would decide to have a baby, and this war is quite costly manpower wise.

The armor on the drones is a lot better than you guys think...

By drone I meant the armor of the 86-ers drone, the juggernaut. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough.

Ah yes the armor of the Juggernauts is quite poor. Almost as if they aren't meant to survive and are just built on the cheap.

As an anime-only viewer all the hints about the hints to figure out the solution to the manpower issue of the 86 have already been shown. The correct conclusion just needs to be drawn. Remember they believe that the war will end in 2 years due to a flaw in the Legion's code.

nariumApr 23, 2021 2:36 AM

Apr 23, 2021 2:38 AM

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narium said:

UTMAN said:

narium said:

UTMAN said:

Eanki said:

Pranavk27 said:

Eanki said:

Pranavk27 said:

Eanki said:

Xopgoblin45 said:
I don't understand why the protagonist said that the San Magnolia army was destroyed in two weeks. But the city survived and then its citizens built a wall. Against tank weapons and artillery.

You are expecting too much from a light novel author who is more concerned with how to make cute military uniform for his cute waifu girl.

This shit reminds me of Altina, Sword Princess, the worst first chapter military-centric novel I have ever had the displeasure of reading.

Author is female btw . And don't shit on author if you don't understand something quite obvious.

Spare me. There is nothing confusing about this. I'm not shitting on the author because I don't understand her work. I'm saying her ability to research things before writing about them is not even close to Tom Clancy caliber. She needs to do some goddamn research on how wars are conducted.

Conceptualhero said:

Pranavk27 said:

Eanki said:

Xopgoblin45 said:
I don't understand why the protagonist said that the San Magnolia army was destroyed in two weeks. But the city survived and then its citizens built a wall. Against tank weapons and artillery.

You are expecting too much from a light novel author who is more concerned with how to make cute military uniform for his cute waifu girl.

This shit reminds me of Altina, Sword Princess, the worst first chapter military-centric novel I have ever had the displeasure of reading.

Author is female btw . And don't shit on author if you don't understand something quite obvious.

You fell for a troll's bait.

Yes, legitimate criticisms against shows you like is just trolling.

You didn't understand something quite obvious and blaming author for she didn't do her research. You need to do your research properly mate .

I'm currently reading Team Yankee, a mostly first person perspective of a US tank battalion in the frontlines of a fictional WWIII written by a former US army major from the armored force. And honestly, if I can take his team into the combat grounds of 86, I'll be a bonafide god of war. It physically pains me to see her unit deployments and it would not shock me if the question of how San Magnolia survives under the logistical and material constraints of a war like this will not be sufficiently addressed in the future.

Are you sreious? You really are comparing a more realistic WWIII situation to a Sci-fi / fictional story where you have spider/mechs as a weapon? I mean.... you do realise that the weapons that 86 uses are vastly different from tanks?
- It's way more mobile than tanks. In ep2 you could see them climbing walls, jumping, dashing, or do rapid left/right movements. Tanks cannot do this.
- The drones in 86 are vastly under armored compared to a modern tank.
- In a realistic situation an armored division usually have an infarntry division as a support. I won't even mention air forces. Both are ommited here.
So maybe having a different deployment strategy comes down to this, don't you think? Also she is a newly promoted major at the of age 16. You expecting a rookie officer to do flawless job in strategy? And in a WWIII setting you usually fight against enemies in similar compisition. Don't you think that having a different deployement strategy comes down all of this? Also thinking of having another tank batallion from another fictional setting making you god of war is just no comment.

For the second part, I kinda have to agree with you. I hope those 2 will be adressed. As far I saw from episode 1, they use artificially produced food, so the answer for the food issue is kinda there, but yes I would also like some answers on how the 86-ers can handle this war with their manpower. I mean living on the front, I don't think many would decide to have a baby, and this war is quite costly manpower wise.

The armor on the drones is a lot better than you guys think...

By drone I meant the armor of the 86-ers drone, the juggernaut. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough.

Ah yes the armor of the Juggernauts is quite poor. Almost as if they aren't meant to survive and are just built on the cheap.

I edited my previous post. Thank you for the clarification.
Now what you wrote makes me puzzled in a good way. Well it delights me that it will be adressed. I also ordered all 7 volumes of the LN so I can read it. I'm really looking forward to it!

Apr 23, 2021 11:04 PM

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Leysoh said:

melxek said:
I often see people, write that they don't understand 86, but I don't really understand what is so hard to understand. Can someone explain?

Tbh I was kinda lost too, all those terms and names got me confused at first but after a couple of rewatches I was able to get most of it.

You really have to pay attention to the dialogues especially in the first episode.

I mean if you’re not paying attention to the dialogue what are you doing?

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