Attack on Titan
| Yes AoT characters are weak. Through entire series always nonames dies in dramatic way. Top Tier Characters: Zeke, Reiner, Erwin, Kenny Average Characters: Eren(MC), Hange, Keith, Pieck, Kruger, Yelena, Floch, Historia, Annie, Pixis, Grisha, Falco Garbage Characters: Gabi, Levi, Mikasa(MC), Armin(MC), Connie, Jean, Sasha, Bertholdt, Frieida, Marco, Marlo, Carla, Hannes and all other trashes i forgot their name. |
OkeanixApr 4, 2021 2:41 PM
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| Characters aren't the first thing I think of when I think of attack on titan's best aspects so I can see your point but the plot is so good it makes up for it in my opinion |
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cue6219 said: Remember Connie? How his whole thing at the start was that he was stupid? I haven’t seen any of that. His stupidity didn’t affect the plot, it just seemed like he was telling everyone he was stupid, and wasn't really. Just in case, some light spoilers for anyone who hasn’t watched season 2: The only time I can think of where his “stupidity” was brought into consideration was in season 2 Connie was at his village and thought one of the titan’s looked familiar and Reiner came up to him and told him what he was seeing was fictitious and basically he was stupid for thinking the Titan could talk. It’s not an example of him actually being stupid but Reiner is manipulating him in that Connie is acting dumb for thinking such. It’s an interesting scene knowing what happens later in the season, but admittedly isn’t exactly Connie BEING stupid like he assumes he is. Your post though is a good point and it’s something I wish Attack on Titan did better in. |
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| Yeah most of they’re characters aren’t complex a backstory doesn’t make a character complex nor does a dramatic character change make a character complex the only characters that are really above average is Erwin, Eren, and Levi but they honestly barely make it past average. Honestly the characters just have great personality’s and I think most people don’t really understand that and mistake it for character depth |
IamgirlApr 4, 2021 5:18 PM
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ManWild said: Characters aren't the first thing I think of when I think of attack on titan's best aspects so I can see your point but the plot is so good it makes up for it in my opinion I can say the same here, usually whenever I think of characters in an anime; I usually think of the characters from Monogatari or Fate. |
Okeanix said: Agreed. Atleast someone else sees mikasa and levi as below average in terms of charecter amd Reiner amd Zeke as TopYes AoT characters are weak. Through entire series always nonames dies in dramatic way. Top Tier Characters: Zeke, Reiner, Erwin, Kenny Average Characters: Eren(MC), Hange, Keith, Pieck, Kruger, Yelena, Floch, Historia, Annie, Pixis, Grisha, Falco Garbage Characters: Gabi, Levi, Mikasa(MC), Armin(MC), Connie, Jean, Sasha, Bertholdt, Frieida, Marco, Marlo, Carla, Hannes and all other trashes i forgot their name. |
| I don't give a shit about side characters like Connie . Yes , they're poorly written but you can't expect every character to be written like Eren or Reiner lmao . |
Okeanix said: Yes AoT characters are weak. Through entire series always nonames dies in dramatic way. Top Tier Characters: Zeke, Reiner, Erwin, Kenny Average Characters: Eren(MC), Hange, Keith, Pieck, Kruger, Yelena, Floch, Historia, Annie, Pixis, Grisha, Falco Garbage Characters: Gabi, Levi, Mikasa(MC), Armin(MC), Connie, Jean, Sasha, Bertholdt, Frieida, Marco, Marlo, Carla, Hannes and all other trashes i forgot their name. M8 stopit. You're about to kill people from an overdose of truth. |
el3mel said: Thanks you so much for your concern. I would be deleting all the post I made which would lead people to spoil me.Regulus_047 said: Thank you but Im fine I dropped the series after ep7 and I am planning on binging it next year as a whole. Watch episode 8 at least as it concludes the Marley arc. Episode 9 is the start of the new arc. I hope you stay safe and away from spoilers. |
Comrade_Castro said: what's the truth? Armin is me when I win.Okeanix said: Yes AoT characters are weak. Through entire series always nonames dies in dramatic way. Top Tier Characters: Zeke, Reiner, Erwin, Kenny Average Characters: Eren(MC), Hange, Keith, Pieck, Kruger, Yelena, Floch, Historia, Annie, Pixis, Grisha, Falco Garbage Characters: Gabi, Levi, Mikasa(MC), Armin(MC), Connie, Jean, Sasha, Bertholdt, Frieida, Marco, Marlo, Carla, Hannes and all other trashes i forgot their name. M8 stopit. You're about to kill people from an overdose of truth. |
| "I think I wanted to attack something. Like betraying people or hurting people. And, well, it's not exactly nice, but hurting the readers too... In all honestly, I feel that's what I really wanted to do. For me, as a reader, when I think, "this manga will remain in my heart," it means, for example, it phenomenally hurt me: It's those kinds of experiences I'm after." - Pajime Hisayama (My favourite hurting author). |
| This is one of the reasons why I'm thinking of moving my rating down to a 9. However, I also think that the AOT characters that get screen time are better than in most shows. “If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you don’t fight, you can’t win!” Some things about Eren's character are underappreciated by the fandom. His mother discouraged him from joining the military, and made him angry with her. When she gets eaten in front of him he's devastated. This motivates him to join the military, but that's exactly what she didn't want him to do. Later in season 4 we see him tell his friends he cares about them, but then act violently against their wishes. We emphasize with Eren because throughout the series his philosophy is repeatedly proven correct. He and Mikasa fight the traffickers. They live. Hanz refused to help him protect his mom. She dies. Levi, and his squad refuse to fight the female titan. Most of the squad dies. However, as the situation becomes more complex his philosophy becomes immoral. The stuff that happens in the manga after season 4 is a good conclusion for him. I could keep writing about Eren, but this is taking too long. |
| true the characters of aot are definitely not the strongest written ones but i think aot is more of a plot driven and world building type show rather than a character driven one ,it does have a lot of weak characters tho i dont even remember half them before s3 p2 |
Peeti said: what's the truth? Armin is me when I win. Armin is you when you win? what? |
Okeanix said: Yes AoT characters are weak. Through entire series always nonames dies in dramatic way. Top Tier Characters: Zeke, Reiner, Erwin, Kenny Average Characters: Eren(MC), Hange, Keith, Pieck, Kruger, Yelena, Floch, Historia, Annie, Pixis, Grisha, Falco Garbage Characters: Gabi, Levi, Mikasa(MC), Armin(MC), Connie, Jean, Sasha, Bertholdt, Frieida, Marco, Marlo, Carla, Hannes and all other trashes i forgot their name. I agree with your list except I'd put Armin and Jean at Average and put Pieck, Annie and Pixis at garbage. I mean your standard of "garbage" and "average" are inconsistent. There is virtually nothing that makes Annie, Pixis, Pieck, and Keith better than Armin, Jean, or Levi. Annie is basically typical badass but thats it. Pieck is a decent character but by your standard of "garbage" she's pretty bad. Keith got a few good moments but if your gonna put Armin at "garbage" you have to put Keith there too. Also, how is Pixis even close to good? |
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AnimeLeviathan said: Okeanix said: Yes AoT characters are weak. Through entire series always nonames dies in dramatic way. Top Tier Characters: Zeke, Reiner, Erwin, Kenny Average Characters: Eren(MC), Hange, Keith, Pieck, Kruger, Yelena, Floch, Historia, Annie, Pixis, Grisha, Falco Garbage Characters: Gabi, Levi, Mikasa(MC), Armin(MC), Connie, Jean, Sasha, Bertholdt, Frieida, Marco, Marlo, Carla, Hannes and all other trashes i forgot their name. I agree with your list except I'd put Armin and Jean at Average and put Pieck, Annie and Pixis at garbage. I mean your standard of "garbage" and "average" are inconsistent. There is virtually nothing that makes Annie, Pixis, Pieck, and Keith better than Armin, Jean, or Levi. Annie is basically typical badass but thats it. Pieck is a decent character but by your standard of "garbage" she's pretty bad. Keith got a few good moments but if your gonna put Armin at "garbage" you have to put Keith there too. Also, how is Pixis even close to good? First of all Armin is garbage because he lost his IQ after became Titan Shifter. Never used his brain ever again and completely useless through entire series. Replace Armin with another guy and nothing will change. Author did put his character to trash can so he can focus other characters. I don't get it how Jean is average character? Replace Jean with another one-dimensional character and nothing changes. He doesn't have impact on storyline through entire series. Meme character Annie is main antagonist of Season 1 and mysterious character with good motives. This enough makes her better than Armin and Jean. Pieck makes anime more interesting, thats enough. Replacing her character with other character would have ruined. But if you replace Armin, Jean or Levi with any other one-dimensional character nothing will change. Give Levi's power to another one dimensional character and result will be same. Okay we need tier list now. |
OkeanixApr 5, 2021 6:43 AM
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Okeanix said: AnimeLeviathan said: I agree with your list except I'd put Armin and Jean at Average and put Pieck, Annie and Pixis at garbage. I mean your standard of "garbage" and "average" are inconsistent. There is virtually nothing that makes Annie, Pixis, Pieck, and Keith better than Armin, Jean, or Levi. Annie is basically typical badass but thats it. Pieck is a decent character but by your standard of "garbage" she's pretty bad. Keith got a few good moments but if your gonna put Armin at "garbage" you have to put Keith there too. Also, how is Pixis even close to good? First of all Armin is garbage because he lost his IQ after became Titan Shifter. Never used his brain ever again and completely useless through entire series. Replace Armin with another guy and nothing will change. Author did put his character to trash can so he can focus other characters. I don't get it how Jean is average character? Replace Jean with another one-dimensional character and nothing changes. He doesn't have impact on storyline through entire series. Meme character Annie is main antagonist of Season 1 and mysterious character with good motives. This enough makes her better than Armin and Jean. Pieck makes anime more interesting, thats enough. Replacing her character with other character would have ruined. But if you replace Armin, Jean or Levi with any other one-dimensional character nothing will change. Give Levi's power to another one dimensional character and result will be same. Okay we need tier list now. jean is literally a parallel character with floch but actually had development that we clearly see and didn't gain an entire new personality over the timeskip. and is in general just a more believable and relatable character. |
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Fiveskies said: Lovlis said: jean is literally a parallel character with floch but actually had development that we clearly see and didn't gain an entire new personality over the timeskip. and is in general just a more believable and relatable character. Floch did not have a personality change. don't get me wrong he's a great side character but not as nuanced as some of yall make him out to be. The shift in his ideologies, him becoming a yeagerist and nationalist, that I can understand (even if it wasn't shown), in fact it was pretty reasonable. But him becoming a twisted sadistic asshole who takes joy in chaos and harming other is a huge difference from what he was before. And you can try to reason it out all you want but it really wasn't shown how he became that way. |
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Zackack99 said: I am the opposite. When someone asks which anime has flimsy characters, I usually think of the two you mentioned.ManWild said: Characters aren't the first thing I think of when I think of attack on titan's best aspects so I can see your point but the plot is so good it makes up for it in my opinion I can say the same here, usually whenever I think of characters in an anime; I usually think of the characters from Monogatari or Fate. |
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cchigu said: Zackack99 said: I am the opposite. When someone asks which anime has flimsy characters, I usually think of the two you mentioned.I can say the same here, usually whenever I think of characters in an anime; I usually think of the characters from Monogatari or Fate. Hmm, that's pretty interesting, well I don't have anything against that because I know that Monogatari and Fate aren't exactly anime that is for everyone. But if I were to state anime (besides the two that I just mentioned) that have some very good characters or have characters as their main strongpoint; then I would also say March Comes in Like a Lion and Mob Psycho 100 but that's just me |
Zackack99 said: I will disagree with MP100 but yeah Sangatsu probably has the best-written characters in the medium.cchigu said: I am the opposite. When someone asks which anime has flimsy characters, I usually think of the two you mentioned. Yeah, I know that Monogatari and Fate aren't exactly anime that I would recommend to everyone because I know that it's not for everyone. But if I were to state anime (besides the two that I just mentioned) that have some very good characters; then I would also say March Comes in Like a Lion and Mob Psycho 100 |
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cchigu said: Zackack99 said: I will disagree with MP100 but yeah Sangatsu probably has the best-written characters in the medium.Yeah, I know that Monogatari and Fate aren't exactly anime that I would recommend to everyone because I know that it's not for everyone. But if I were to state anime (besides the two that I just mentioned) that have some very good characters; then I would also say March Comes in Like a Lion and Mob Psycho 100 Yeah I agree with you too, I personally think that Sangtasu has got some of the best characters that I've seen and Rei is easily one of my favorite protagonists |
Fiveskies said: Lovlis said: don't get me wrong he's a great side character but not as nuanced as some of yall make him out to be. The shift in his ideologies, him becoming a yeagerist and nationalist, that I can understand (even if it wasn't shown), in fact it was pretty reasonable. But him becoming a twisted sadistic asshole who takes joy in chaos and harming other is a huge difference from what he was before. And you can try to reason it out all you want but it really wasn't shown how he became that way. He was always nationalistic , he always thought of eldias benefit . He was upset when Armin was chosen over Erwin , he even confronted Levi along with Eren's group. He became a bit more extreme in his ideology , reason for which is given in part 2 . And no , he does not take joy in harming others. Um no he was not a supremacist or nationalist at s3p2 lol since no one even knew about outside humanity. And even after they did, you didn't see him wishing they could all die for the sake of eldians and that eldians are the supreme race in s3p2. He did care about survival of paradis but that's about it. The jump in his ideology became extremely severe over the timeskip, which was not shown but can be understood. yes he is??? he grinned and has no guilt abt putting zeke's fluid in the wine, which almost all the superiors and officials drank, and asked the recruits to beat up shadis for fun. He has a huge disregard for human life, even his own people (despite being so patriotic). These shifts can't really be understood. |
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