| If manga artists are underpaid in Japan, and the industry suffers, why don't we hire them for more money? I mean, people outside of Japan could pay more money to artists and thus we would create and own real Japanese manga, but with "foreign" funding and, furthermore, we could pay artists better, since it is said that they charge very little (300-400 $ or something like that?). We would help the industry. This is already done? And if not, why is it not done? |
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| pixiv is a thing and they make some money at dojin markets |
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| Maybe as long as artists agree with the money they get.. Why would companies hire them, paying them more, when they can hire them, paying them less?.. Maybe market is saturated, and demand is lower than supply?.. So even if foreign people would hire Japanese artists, why would they also want to pay them more?.. In here - I'm speaking just from practical side.. I'd want myself for artists to get payed more, really.. But doesn't it just work like this?.. |
Gendolfas said: Maybe as long as artists agree with the money they get.. Why would companies hire them, paying them more, when they can hire them, paying them less?.. Maybe market is saturated, and demand is lower than supply?.. So even if foreign people would hire Japanese artists, why would they also want to pay them more?.. In here - I'm speaking just from practical side.. I'd want myself for artists to get payed more, really.. But doesn't it just work like this?.. But if currently some charge very little and have a lot of quality, it would be profitable for the foreign investor to "take it away" for some more money. Do not? Perhaps there are many legal obstacles to making this type of international contracts. But they could also be paid through other than by contract ... maybe, or not, I have no idea. |
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| To pay them more you'll have to buy the stuff more. Outside Japan people don't really buy physical copies, not more than in Japan anyway. They could make some manga site like Netflix, but someone has to pay for subscription, etc. There has to be something exclusive for people to be ready to pay more. I don't think it would work just because someone decides to pay more... Maybe like an individual donation but it won't change the industry. |
Ten said: To pay them more you'll have to buy the stuff more. Outside Japan people don't really buy physical copies, not more than in Japan anyway. They could make some manga site like Netflix, but someone has to pay for subscription, etc. There has to be something exclusive for people to be ready to pay more. I don't think it would work just because someone decides to pay more... Maybe like an individual donation but it won't change the industry. Do you mean a site like Crunchyroll? Crunchy has already digital manga by subscription, similar to Netflix, right? |
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Belsel said: Ten said: To pay them more you'll have to buy the stuff more. Outside Japan people don't really buy physical copies, not more than in Japan anyway. They could make some manga site like Netflix, but someone has to pay for subscription, etc. There has to be something exclusive for people to be ready to pay more. I don't think it would work just because someone decides to pay more... Maybe like an individual donation but it won't change the industry. Do you mean a site like Crunchyroll? Crunchy has already digital manga by subscription, similar to Netflix, right? Yeah, but something with Netflix/Crunchyroll original too, so the manga project is sponsored by them from the start. What they have now is redistribution of already existing series. I wonder if authors receive some percentage from this but I guess it's still not enough to change things, more like a bonus. |
| If you care about it, give money to platforms like Crunchyroll and the money goes back to Japan. Now hope they give it back to the workers...btw by increasing the wages of those workers, less anime will come out, then the studios will decide between producing anime like Death Note, FMA, NGE, etc.. or anime like K-On, Clannad or Free! You already know which group will win...depending on who you are this might be good |
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Ten said: I like your point. I think there are a lot talented people who could join a netflix like site and get paid properly.Belsel said: Do you mean a site like Crunchyroll? Crunchy has already digital manga by subscription, similar to Netflix, right? Yeah, but something with Netflix/Crunchyroll original too, so the manga project is sponsored by them from the start. What they have now is redistribution of already existing series. I wonder if authors receive some percentage from this but I guess it's still not enough to change things, more like a bonus. icarusivys said: Though it sounds like a good idea at face value, it's much more complicated than it looks. Still dont know about those complications...can someone detail some aspects? Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
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marrmm said: Other countries don't care about that stuff, that's a popular thing in Japan But...manga is very popular in all the world, not just japan |
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| I'm sure this is possible since it's already happening in Asia (between Japan, Korea, and China). We also know that people from the West (USA, Europe) have also been working in the anime industry in Japan. It just doesn't seem rational though to throw money at the problem of funding animation; you probably would want to create a 'city-like' environment where people feel like other places (besides Japan, etc) are anime meccas. It's similar to how a lot of people believe they have to go to Silicon Valley to make good technology or how people think you need to go live in NYC to get a high-paying finance job. The West lacks this type of centralized image, at least for anime. |
Dauphine said: Who do you think has that kind of money? Most people aren't rich and could probably not afford to hire manga artists! Maybe not a single person, but yes any companny. You can hire an artist for some months to develop a manga and pay for it better than in Japan (and still not being expensive). |
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| Manga is like a lot of creative mediums. Just think how many people try to write a book and how many of those books get even mediocre success forget a hit. Ultimately though people are right this does happen already. Skilled artists tend to sell commissions or draw dojins which they also sell. Sure you could do some sort of kickstarter or something but you would have to get a lot of people on board with a similar plot and an artist everyone likes. Indie comic artists outside a few notables also don't make a lot of money. |
| I think it would only be good if foreigners would only do the financing and not be integrated into the creative processes. Westerners would surely ruin manga and anime with their politics. I mean look at what happened to american comics nowadays. |
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| It's a good idea but I'm pretty sure it would be much more complicated realistically. America would just ruin anime and manga and plus just because you write a manga doesn't mean it's gonna be automatically successful. The manga industry is very competitive and they take no hesitation to to cancel manga in their manganiznes. |
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ChrisBlitz said: It's a good idea but I'm pretty sure it would be much more complicated realistically. America would just ruin anime and manga and plus just because you write a manga doesn't mean it's gonna be automatically successful. The manga industry is very competitive and they take no hesitation to to cancel manga in their manganiznes. Thank you for all comments. Indeed, foreigners would only do the financing part, not being integrated in the creative process, like an user said before (I agree). |
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