AOT S4 surpasses Jujutsu Kaisen in terms of Popularity

thekillfra said:

all the people in the world who follow anime and manga do not even make up half of the Japanese audience so it is irrelevant at a numerical level JJK is bigger than SnK, look at the American sales charts and compare them with the Japanese ones, the Japanese market is 50 times bigger. Western audiences are still very much in the minority despite the noise of the internet

FMmatron said:


Bro ignore these AoT tards. They're the equivalent of poor people flexxing with high end brand clothes. JJK is making numbers that matter.

imbAF said:


can you prove that ? that the amount of people in japan that watch anime is bigger then the whole global anime community ?

thekillfra said:

just count the money circulating in the respective markets, stop living in your own bubbles, and it's not like JJK makes zero numbers in the West (despite being new and not being 10 years old)

thekillfra said:

just count the money circulating in the respective markets, stop living in your own bubbles, and it's not like JJK makes zero numbers in the West (despite being new and not being 10 years old)

imbAF said:


it would be great if you could link something, that way i would step out of my bubble , but i guess you can't. or at most you can link oricon which means nothing.

Okeanix said:
Jujutsu Kaisen Manga sales a lot more than Shingeki no Kyojin Manga.

For me Jujutsu Kaisen is another bland overhyped & overrated generic shounen show.

I didn't found anything unique or interesting unlike other shounens.

Okeanix said:
Jujutsu Kaisen Manga sales a lot more than Shingeki no Kyojin Manga.

For me Jujutsu Kaisen is another bland overhyped & overrated generic shounen show.

I didn't found anything unique or interesting unlike other shounens.

thekillfra said:

where is the visualization data in the west? reddit? yotube?Google ? do you know the data of Crunchlow or netflix? do you know anime are mainsteam in japan and all people in that country follow them or read manga? are you really comparing them to us westerners? ask your mother or grandmother what is Snk LOL

imbAF said:



from an article :

Netflix recently told The Wall Street Journal that more than 100 million households around the world watched at least one anime title on its service in the year to September 2020, up 50% from a year earlier.

Japan's population is 127 million. Unless more then 90% of the japanese populaiton watches anime, then the global anime community is bigger then the japanese one. And that was only netflix. Take into account people who torrent, see it on different sites etc.

thekillfra said:

Clicking an episode doesn't mean following the show and spending money on it,and Netflix is also used by the Japanese anyway , end of the story.
It would also be curious to know what they consider anime, for example Castelvaia for them is an anime.

badmintona said:
The majority of AOT 10 reviews are bots and multi-accounts spammers with no life.

thekillfra said:

the international market is irrelevant, except for the streaming licenses which are paid in advance so it is irrelevant. SnK in japan is doing decently but nothing exceptional JJK (although I don't like it that much) is making numbers like Demon Slayer, the comparison with SnK is ridiculous except for the fanboys who think that reddit counts for something (in japan they don't even know what it is LOL). I think the self-love of Westerners in thinking the world revolves around them is ridiculous.

imbAF said:


from an article :

Netflix recently told The Wall Street Journal that more than 100 million households around the world watched at least one anime title on its service in the year to September 2020, up 50% from a year earlier.

Japan's population is 127 million. Unless more then 90% of the japanese populaiton watches anime, then the global anime community is bigger then the japanese one. And that was only netflix. Take into account people who torrent, see it on different sites etc.

You said the anime/manga world community is less then half of the japanese one. Only netflix boosts 100m households, so YOU ARE WRONG.End of story

thekillfra said:

the international market is irrelevant, except for the streaming licenses which are paid in advance so it is irrelevant. SnK in japan is doing decently but nothing exceptional JJK (although I don't like it that much) is making numbers like Demon Slayer, the comparison with SnK is ridiculous except for the fanboys who think that reddit counts for something (in japan they don't even know what it is LOL). I think the self-love of Westerners in thinking the world revolves around them is ridiculous.

memesyouhard said:
Imma just leave this video here https://youtu.be/HFr-nEJk3ws

Arin-san said:

"In Japan, they don't know what it is" LMAO

JJK fans using make-believe facts about Japan to battle AoT fans! What a sight!

Japanese people know about Reddit, they know about it very well, in fact, 2ch users have their own subreddit. But oh! You didn't know about it.

Jujutsu Kaisen is making records similar to Demon Slayer?!?!?!
Source(s): Dude trust me

"International market is irrelevant"
Okay, this guys a troll, I'm out.

Sayonara.


*Meanwhile AoT goes trending on Japanese Twitter with over 200k tweets just after a new episode*

MappaPrefersJJK said:


But your post is about mal popularity...JJK is also above AOT in Japan on twitter, google, bd/dvd sales so it's not just manga's sales.

FMmatron said:


I guess you count this guy as part of the anime community as well.

keragamming said:


Attack on titan has over 100 million copies sold in Japan.

One piece has over 400 million copies sold in Japan.

Yet Jkk is selling better than both series currently, are we to say that jjk is more popular than both snk and one piece, just because its selling better than these series in this particular year? Ridiculous!

Snk first season volume 1 blu ray sales blows away jjk volume 1 sales.

Yes, jjk is the hot thing currently in Japan, but its still not more popular than either snk or one piece, most readers that are buying jjk volumes already bought snk and one piece volumes years ago.

Jkk is the new series therefore its in demand, meaning its backlog will be selling a lot, snk and one piece has reach their saturation point years ago, that is the difference here.

So jjk isn't popular than snk in Japan or world wide if we are to compare overall sales and not just last year and this year sales in Japan.

Lastly, jjk is just riding off the demon slayer hype, demon slayer fans are now finish buying all the volumes of that series and want to buy other volumes of other series and jjk is just lucky that its airing currently and its new series and also another jump series and so some fans of demon slayer went to it as the new hot thing in Japan.

thekillfra said:

2ch users LOL reddit is not big in japan if you followed some v-tuber you would know it (Koko has focused on this with the meme-review done in English).

thekillfra said:

I don't even like JJK but it's having the same growth as Demon Slayer, in 4 months it went from 8 million to 25 million, and it has only 15 volumes.

FMmatron said:


Bro ignore these AoT tards. They're the equivalent of poor people flexxing with high end brand clothes. JJK is making numbers that matter.

imbAF said:


sorry, i forgot that you, a nobody on the web, decides who is an anime fan or no. AOT anime >>>rest.
Aot manga sales 100m+ , jujutsu not even 25m.
Aot top trending anime on tiwtter with 700-800k tweets, (DS had 275k at best for episode 19). The world anime population >>>> japanese one. so basically this discussion is pointless af.

Koustubh said:


I am sorry if I offended you, but you can speak a bit respectfully as well. There is no need to go so far and call us AOT tards. There is no need to resort to such language. You can disagree in a polite manner, and I can respectfully agree or disagree with your opinion.

FMmatron said:



I just gave you an example how ridiculous it is to bring up clicks on Netflix. Shooting at me won't change it since anyone with common sense can see that your argumentation is faulty.




No, I am sorry if I offended you and if it makes you feel any better, your post didn't have anything to do with it, I didn't even read it.

SAMR030 said:
I think dragon ball is more popular in worldwide

thekillfra said:

Dragon ball for countries outside North America is at the level of Superman especially in Europe and South America, Mexico.

the latest volume of JJk is destroying the latest volume of SnK in japan, now in japan JJK is more popular stop, past sales don't count. The same goes for One Piece versus Demon Slayer

SAMR030 said:


I dont think anime industry care about the western audience so i dont think they would care if aot is popular worldwide

thekillfra said:

Dragon ball for countries outside North America is at the level of Superman especially in Europe and South America, Mexico.

the latest volume of JJk is destroying the latest volume of SnK in japan, now in japan JJK is more popular stop, past sales don't count. The same goes for One Piece versus Demon Slayer

thekillfra said:

Dragon ball for countries outside North America is at the level of Superman especially in Europe and South America, Mexico.

MAQS said:



In Japan

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=JP&q=%2Fg%2F11f6y3qll_,%2Fm%2F0gtxdb2

Worldwide

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%2Fg%2F11f6y3qll_,%2Fm%2F0gtxdb2

thekillfra said:

Dragon ball for countries outside North America is at the level of Superman especially in Europe and South America, Mexico.

the latest volume of JJk is destroying the latest volume of SnK in japan, now in japan JJK is more popular stop, past sales don't count. The same goes for One Piece versus Demon Slayer

MappaPrefersJJK said:


Even if we count the past sales JJK is doing better than AOT, the peak of AOT's manga sales was 15m in 2013, if JJK hadn't started airing at the end of 2020 the current sales count for 2021 would have been 14m instead of 7,5m, and JJK's anime isn't even done so it's obvious that at the end JJK is going to break AOT's sales record

keragamming said:


Stop the bullshit, I am following the sales and jjk volume is either selling a little better than it or snk is selling a little better than it. Its not far despite the drop in sales in snk.

I am following the weekly sales jjk latest volume hasn't reach 1 million yet, snk volume including the limited edition is around 700-800k, jjk is around that number if I remember correctly.

Please put up the sales number for jjk, because I know it hasn't reach 1 million in per volume sales, so I don't understand this "destroy" that you speak of.

MappaPrefersJJK said:


JJK latest volume has reach 1 million while the latest aot's volume hasn't, are you sure you're following the sales ? https://twitter.com/WSJ_manga/status/1355079706660450305

keragamming said:


Ok, I will admit I was wrong there, but as I said before peak snk was selling over 2 million per volume, so you too need to admit that you were wrong in saying that jjk is selling more than peak snk.

MappaPrefersJJK said:


I'm not talking sales per volume, but 2013's record

keragamming said:


You can't compare, one is monthly the other is weekly, so jjk will release more volumes than snk in a year, hence it will accumulate more sales.

Which is why we have to use per volume sales as the best measurement to say which series is selling more in their peak time.

MappaPrefersJJK said:


No but in 2013 AOT's first season was airing so there was the backlog too no ? Like JJK right now

keragamming said:


What are you getting at here? Of course all 11 volumes had backlog sales in 2013.

MappaPrefersJJK said:


I just don't get why you're talking about monthly and weekly. I know in a normal year AOT releases 3 volumes but the sales in 2013 weren't only about 3 volumes so monthly and weekly isn't important here no ?

MAQS said:


It matters because had AOT been weekly, 15m would not have been its sales record for one year, ecause 2 full more volumes would have been released, and in general it would also had more than its 11 volume backlog, which arethins JJK has more of, it releases volumes quicker and had more of them wen the anime began.

Still though I think JJK is more popular in Japan than waht AOT was in 2013.