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Jan 19, 2021 1:49 AM
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source https://twitter.com/Spytrue/status/1351461729188913153

get it its fine to criticize them on other places like here on MAL but do not harass their social media accounts my dudes
degJan 19, 2021 6:17 AM
Jan 19, 2021 1:56 AM
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This has got to stop... i'm starting to get annoyed by it. Can't people just appreciate their work and enjoy it? These people are not their boss or anything. Much less of an artist or an animator. If they were a fellow animators then it's a given. I guess they can harass them since they're in the same line of work. But they're not. And i doubt if they could even draw a stickman in five seconds! They don't have any right to harass them.

I think people who harass mappa's social media is either a person who has only seen ten anime in his whole life or a hikki neet who has been unemployed for a decade and had too much free time on his hands....
Jan 19, 2021 2:00 AM
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deg said:


source https://twitter.com/Spytrue/status/1351461729188913153

get it its fine to criticize them but do not harass their social media accounts my dudes
harassing staff is bad. I believe even criticizing them is not good because they work in short time. This tight schedule things aren't gonna change in anime industry but CGI is very helpful (that is a truth). Studios need to make money or if some are companies. Anime is not popular as western entertainment. So, if you don't like it then you can stick with KyoAni and few other studios.
"I think I wanted to attack something. Like betraying people or hurting people. And, well, it's not exactly nice, but hurting the readers too... In all honestly, I feel that's what I really wanted to do. For me, as a reader, when I think, "this manga will remain in my heart," it means, for example, it phenomenally hurt me: It's those kinds of experiences I'm after." - Pajime Hisayama (My favourite hurting author).
Jan 19, 2021 2:04 AM
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deg said:


source https://twitter.com/Spytrue/status/1351461729188913153

get it its fine to criticize them but do not harass their social media accounts my dudes


That's so sad๐Ÿ˜ญ
Jan 19, 2021 2:20 AM
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I was able to enjoy the episode with no spoilers at all. Some cg scenes were a little wierd but some shots looked really good. This ain't no berserk 2016 or EX-arm at all. Critising it is fine to ensure the mistakes. Harassing a staff member is a step too far considering the work environment and little time they had. Thank you @deg for posting this message on here on MAL. Don't let this fandom become as toxic as Steven Universe (which is already on a path to)
Jan 19, 2021 2:27 AM
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no problem harassment is never ok
Jan 19, 2021 2:46 AM
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Why are people doing this? It's not even close to being a bad episode and they're acting like it's the worst thing they've ever seen, this episode is rated 9.9 on imdb which is very impressive. And most of this shit is coming from manga readers because they think they own the series for some reason. Just get over yourselves please, if you don't like it just stop watching, it's simple.
Jan 19, 2021 2:49 AM
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Look. I sure we can all agree that the adaptation hasn't satisfied everyone's expectations but harassing the staff members is just wrong. This has to stop
Jan 19, 2021 3:05 AM
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This is getting out of hand, people criticizing the show and harrasing the studio like there's no tomorrow is disgusting
Jan 19, 2021 3:14 AM
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Imagine working day and night to complete a project that is this difficult and when you're done then go through messages that say stuff like (you don't know what you're doing, you don't have talent,you ruined everything) like I don't know if I would even want to work anymore but you can't do anything because you have to make a living
Jan 19, 2021 3:18 AM

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How can you not agree?^^ Yeah, 100%. Everyone should act this way.

Problem is: Angry , insecure Kids DONT have the courdesy to respect someone who works hard

...and their definetly not mature

It's sad, but I think we're in for the same harassing shitstorm everytime a new Episode is coming out :(
A look at the MaL forums on Mondays is a good indicator for that...
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Jan 19, 2021 3:58 AM
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deg said:


source https://twitter.com/Spytrue/status/1351461729188913153

get it its fine to criticize them but do not harass their social media accounts my dudes


atlast mappa is speaking up

lmao those who say this is the worst thing theyve ever seen they havent watched berserk 2016

criticism is fine, but insult and harassment is not. this series dosen't belong to you fam. it belongs to "hajime isayama"

i have given up already on aot fandom after harassing&abusing the episode 5 director for an ost choice of a literally fvkin 10 seconds scene oof... i guess they just want to listen osts not progress on the story smh
Jan 19, 2021 4:01 AM
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Just to keep this thread alive, I'm gonna reply. But this is a sad site to see. Hope Omine-san laughed it off when he was called out for on Ep6 and he didn't even work on it....

This fandom is very close to beating the toxicity of MHA and HxH
Jan 19, 2021 5:27 AM
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Roowanx said:
Why are people doing this? It's not even close to being a bad episode and they're acting like it's the worst thing they've ever seen, this episode is rated 9.9 on imdb which is very impressive. And most of this shit is coming from manga readers because they think they own the series for some reason. Just get over yourselves please, if you don't like it just stop watching, it's simple.

as a manga reader i thought it was the anime onlies who are the ones behind the harassment saying shit like "the trailer lied to us" and being disappointed about the studio change leading to the MAPPA harassment. Manga communities like r/titanfolk are pretty chill they even made a video post (possibly) starting the #ThankYouMappa to show appreciation. It's a pretty bad move to just assume that manga readers are the only ones who harassed the staff members.
Jan 19, 2021 5:38 AM
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Harsha1314 said:
Just to keep this thread alive, I'm gonna reply. But this is a sad site to see. Hope Omine-san laughed it off when he was called out for on Ep6 and he didn't even work on it....

This fandom is very close to beating the toxicity of MHA and HxH

i honestly think it did

I used to hate the toxic fans from HxH mostly because of the elitism from the fans. Now I think it's no different, heck it's worse. Harassing people who worked on something a project that intimidated other studios due to the sheer amount workload. They even made an adaptation in 8 months, a schedule that I've never heard of before for any anime this big. This is why lifeless "anime fans" like these should continue to be "oppressed" by the general public because they're dumb fucks who can't appreciate good things, not reflecting on themselves and their actions. Fucking assholes
Jan 19, 2021 5:40 AM
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therainbowbox said:
Roowanx said:
Why are people doing this? It's not even close to being a bad episode and they're acting like it's the worst thing they've ever seen, this episode is rated 9.9 on imdb which is very impressive. And most of this shit is coming from manga readers because they think they own the series for some reason. Just get over yourselves please, if you don't like it just stop watching, it's simple.

as a manga reader i thought it was the anime onlies who are the ones behind the harassment saying shit like "the trailer lied to us" and being disappointed about the studio change leading to the MAPPA harassment. Manga communities like r/titanfolk are pretty chill they even made a video post (possibly) starting the #ThankYouMappa to show appreciation. It's a pretty bad move to just assume that manga readers are the only ones who harassed the staff members.


I definitely agree. I’m a manga reader myself, and while the animation was not at its best (even I have to agree), I simply enjoyed the shit out of the episode. Look if, you’re invested to a story that much, you won’t even notice if the animation is good or bad. That makes me think that the ppl who’re harassing the staff, didn’t even bother to watch the episode. They were too busy shitting on an animation I’m completely fine with. (Sorry for Changing topics). Now y’all shouldn’t be assuming that only manga readers are the only ones that are complaining about animation. I will also admit that the aot manga art is bad, but I still enjoyed reading it, and so did many other readers, so if we enjoyed, shit panels, why would be complaini about decent looking animation? I’m just happy we got a last season tbh, and so should be everyone else


๐˜š๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ ๐˜ค๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฎ๐˜บ ๐˜ฆ๐˜บ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด, ๐˜ ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ฏ’๐˜ต ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ๐˜ฆ.


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Jan 19, 2021 5:41 AM

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The animation looks good to me some scenes look like they r straight out of Ex-arm but thats all maybe 1-2 minutes out of 20 hope we have some insane Levi scenes in episode 7 so these bitches can shit the fuck up
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People don't deserve anime.

Jan 19, 2021 5:52 AM
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Albo-Maniak said:
therainbowbox said:

as a manga reader i thought it was the anime onlies who are the ones behind the harassment saying shit like "the trailer lied to us" and being disappointed about the studio change leading to the MAPPA harassment. Manga communities like r/titanfolk are pretty chill they even made a video post (possibly) starting the #ThankYouMappa to show appreciation. It's a pretty bad move to just assume that manga readers are the only ones who harassed the staff members.


I definitely agree. I’m a manga reader myself, and while the animation was not at its best (even I have to agree), I simply enjoyed the shit out of the episode. Look if, you’re invested to a story that much, you won’t even notice if the animation is good or bad. That makes me think that the ppl who’re harassing the staff, didn’t even bother to watch the episode. They were too busy shitting on an animation I’m completely fine with. (Sorry for Changing topics). Now y’all shouldn’t be assuming that only manga readers are the only ones that are complaining about animation. I will also admit that the aot manga art is bad, but I still enjoyed reading it, and so did many other readers, so if we enjoyed, shit panels, why would be complaini about decent looking animation? I’m just happy we got a last season tbh, and so should be everyone else

I agree with what you said. The future episodes are going to be legendary who the fuck cares if the animation sucks ass unless you're a fucking MAPPA bully. I'm really worried about AoT as a series though, with all the hate the final season is receiving I can't imagine the outrage when Eren turns into a GIGA CHAD
Jan 19, 2021 5:55 AM
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ErwinDanchou said:
The animation looks good to me some scenes look like they r straight out of Ex-arm but thats all maybe 1-2 minutes out of 20 hope we have some insane Levi scenes in episode 7 so these bitches can shit the fuck up
Not ex arm, but slower shots are certainly bad
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therainbowbox said:
Albo-Maniak said:


I definitely agree. I’m a manga reader myself, and while the animation was not at its best (even I have to agree), I simply enjoyed the shit out of the episode. Look if, you’re invested to a story that much, you won’t even notice if the animation is good or bad. That makes me think that the ppl who’re harassing the staff, didn’t even bother to watch the episode. They were too busy shitting on an animation I’m completely fine with. (Sorry for Changing topics). Now y’all shouldn’t be assuming that only manga readers are the only ones that are complaining about animation. I will also admit that the aot manga art is bad, but I still enjoyed reading it, and so did many other readers, so if we enjoyed, shit panels, why would be complaini about decent looking animation? I’m just happy we got a last season tbh, and so should be everyone else

I agree with what you said. The future episodes are going to be legendary who the fuck cares if the animation sucks ass unless you're a fucking MAPPA bully. I'm really worried about AoT as a series though, with all the hate the final season is receiving I can't imagine the outrage when Eren turns into a GIGA CHAD


I’m sure it’ll be fine bro. The chadness or Eren and one of the most mind blowing Twists will make the fans go crazy, so I doubt making will be talking about the animation. I’m fine with this animation being as it is for the rest of the episodes, but if the rumbling arc has the same animation as episode 6, then god save us and the mappa team from the toxic fans


๐˜š๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ ๐˜ค๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฎ๐˜บ ๐˜ฆ๐˜บ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด, ๐˜ ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ฏ’๐˜ต ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ๐˜ฆ.


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The worse we can get are bertholt clones. I'm very optimistic that this arc would show people that WIT and MAPPA's cg are one of the same with very little difference just like Eren and Reiner, in the worst case scenario. Pretty sure it wouldn't be as bad as WIT though
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It's sad and disheartening for the already pressured staff. But I guess these entitled fanatics are out of touch with reality and don't even know what hard work and respectful coextistence are.

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I don't accept online harrasment because regular workers are not to blame for this and they did ginormous, amazing job.
But what most people seem to miss, is that blind fanboyism is what enables and is partially responsible for the problems plaguing the industry.
What are the higher-up supposed to think?

"Oh, look! We gave them 8 months and a crappy budged and people still like it.
In a future show let's give them 4 months to animate and half the budged. People are going to buy blue-rays and merch anyway so whatever."

Critique is necessary otherwise big shots will think everything is fine and dandy. Harrasing staff at the end of a food chain is not acceptable.
Jan 19, 2021 6:24 AM
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Kharan said:
I don't accept online harrasment because regular workers are not to blame for this and they did ginormous, amazing job.
But what most people seem to miss, is that blind fanboyism is what enables and is partially responsible for the problems plaguing the industry.
What are the higher-up supposed to think?

"Oh, look! We gave them 8 months and a crappy budged and people still like it.
In a future show let's give them 4 months to animate and half the budged. People are going to buy blue-rays and merch anyway so whatever."

Critique is necessary otherwise big shots will think everything is fine and dandy. Harrasing staff at the end of a food chain is not acceptable.


ok that makes sense but ye never harass the passionate staff but never praise MAPPA as a company or never praise their upper management and especially never praise the production committee too
Jan 19, 2021 6:28 AM
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Biggest problem started even before the official subs were out and only the raws were out and people here on mal started shitposting
About how aot is the new cyberpunk 2077 in anime... Lol.. Unfortunately, that made me watch the episode in very low expectations and that somehow lessened it's over all value for me initially...
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therainbowbox said:
Roowanx said:
Why are people doing this? It's not even close to being a bad episode and they're acting like it's the worst thing they've ever seen, this episode is rated 9.9 on imdb which is very impressive. And most of this shit is coming from manga readers because they think they own the series for some reason. Just get over yourselves please, if you don't like it just stop watching, it's simple.

as a manga reader i thought it was the anime onlies who are the ones behind the harassment saying shit like "the trailer lied to us" and being disappointed about the studio change leading to the MAPPA harassment. Manga communities like r/titanfolk are pretty chill they even made a video post (possibly) starting the #ThankYouMappa to show appreciation. It's a pretty bad move to just assume that manga readers are the only ones who harassed the staff members.
You're right, maybe I should've worded it better, I didn't mean that all manga readers act like that and there's obviously alot of people being respectful like you said even when they give criticism, I just meant that the harassment stuff and the overly toxic behavior and drama seems to be coming mostly from some manga readers who have certain expectations for the adaptation (like the ost from episode 5) and when these expectations are not met they go crazy over it. At least that's from what I've seen especially on twitter.
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AT CG needs work like desperately. Mikasa and WH scenes were dope. I don't think there were 2d ODM scenes but the explosions were done great imo. What is the possibility that the rumoured part 2 will have good schedule?
Subjectivity is a joke on MAL. If you implicitly bring in subjectivity in your counter argument, you've already lost the debate. Also this website is a fankid infestation , have pity on those kids by ignoring there quotes as they have absolutely no clue what exactly is going on.
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Roowanx said:
therainbowbox said:

as a manga reader i thought it was the anime onlies who are the ones behind the harassment saying shit like "the trailer lied to us" and being disappointed about the studio change leading to the MAPPA harassment. Manga communities like r/titanfolk are pretty chill they even made a video post (possibly) starting the #ThankYouMappa to show appreciation. It's a pretty bad move to just assume that manga readers are the only ones who harassed the staff members.
You're right, maybe I should've worded it better, I didn't mean that all manga readers act like that and there's obviously alot of people being respectful like you said even when they give criticism, I just meant that the harassment stuff and the overly toxic behavior and drama seems to be coming mostly from some manga readers who have certain expectations for the adaptation (like the ost from episode 5) and when these expectations are not met they go crazy over it. At least that's from what I've seen especially on twitter.


Its both.

Sakuga enthusiast and manga readers, and there are a lot more of sakuga enthusiast in general.
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deg said:

ok that makes sense but ye never harass the passionate staff but never praise MAPPA as a company or never praise their upper management and especially never praise the production committee too


That would be in an ideal world.

Here people see the end result are dissatisfied with it and take their anger out on those directly responsible. It shouldn't be that way but it is what it is. Those on the "front lines" always get the short end of the stick, not the bossess.

Like in AoT. Send "Eldians" to face the mob while the higher up are sitting nice and cozy in their hideouts.

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