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Jan 15, 2021 3:15 PM
#2801
CePl17 said: Not necessarily. They could end with chapter 119 and edit some of the content from chapters 120-122 in a post-credit scene after the ED in episode 16. That’d be ideal for pacing and teasing. Similar to what WIT did in season 3.yaegerist-15 said: Edylson said: NomaanMalick said: Hey! Why do you people think Hayashi hasn't been as involved with SnK as his previous projects? IIRC, he storyboarded all 12 episodes of DOROHEDORO, but so far he has only co-storyboarded two episodes for SnK. More surprisingly, he hasn't directed a single episode for the adaptation yet, not even the premiere of this season. Since SnK was a project that wasn't really planned for by MAPPA, I have a suspicion that MAPPA had a project in the pipeline for which he had been chosen as the director (a la Park with GoH and JJK). The preproduction phase of that anime must be keeping him busy. As such, he must be left with less than the ideal amount of time for working on SnK. That's why a veteran like Jun Shishido has been called in as a Chief Unit Director to lessen Hayashi's workload. Cuz he was busy with Dorohedoro, i mean at some point he was taking care of Aot and Dorohedoro at the same time. I have a feeling that at the very least he will storyboard the paths chapters, we are not halfway thorough the season yet so there's still a lot of time for him to be involved more Paths stuff is in the trailer, they are 100% going to end at 122. |
Jan 15, 2021 3:15 PM
#2802
CePl17 said: would be weird, some leaks say episode 9 adapts chapter 106 and half of 107, are they gonna cut 30% of the dialogue between 106-116? They would have to rush it or to make a double length episode at the endyaegerist-15 said: Edylson said: NomaanMalick said: Hey! Why do you people think Hayashi hasn't been as involved with SnK as his previous projects? IIRC, he storyboarded all 12 episodes of DOROHEDORO, but so far he has only co-storyboarded two episodes for SnK. More surprisingly, he hasn't directed a single episode for the adaptation yet, not even the premiere of this season. Since SnK was a project that wasn't really planned for by MAPPA, I have a suspicion that MAPPA had a project in the pipeline for which he had been chosen as the director (a la Park with GoH and JJK). The preproduction phase of that anime must be keeping him busy. As such, he must be left with less than the ideal amount of time for working on SnK. That's why a veteran like Jun Shishido has been called in as a Chief Unit Director to lessen Hayashi's workload. Cuz he was busy with Dorohedoro, i mean at some point he was taking care of Aot and Dorohedoro at the same time. I have a feeling that at the very least he will storyboard the paths chapters, we are not halfway thorough the season yet so there's still a lot of time for him to be involved more Paths stuff is in the trailer, they are 100% going to end at 122. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Jan 15, 2021 3:17 PM
#2803
Sourire said: that would be so good and a perfect cliffhangerCePl17 said: Not necessarily. They could end with chapter 119 and edit some of the content from chapters 120-122 in a post-credit scene after the ending in episode 16. That’d be ideal for pacing and teasing.yaegerist-15 said: Edylson said: we won’t see the paths episodes this season, I think they will adapt till chapter 119NomaanMalick said: Hey! Why do you people think Hayashi hasn't been as involved with SnK as his previous projects? IIRC, he storyboarded all 12 episodes of DOROHEDORO, but so far he has only co-storyboarded two episodes for SnK. More surprisingly, he hasn't directed a single episode for the adaptation yet, not even the premiere of this season. Since SnK was a project that wasn't really planned for by MAPPA, I have a suspicion that MAPPA had a project in the pipeline for which he had been chosen as the director (a la Park with GoH and JJK). The preproduction phase of that anime must be keeping him busy. As such, he must be left with less than the ideal amount of time for working on SnK. That's why a veteran like Jun Shishido has been called in as a Chief Unit Director to lessen Hayashi's workload. Cuz he was busy with Dorohedoro, i mean at some point he was taking care of Aot and Dorohedoro at the same time. I have a feeling that at the very least he will storyboard the paths chapters, we are not halfway thorough the season yet so there's still a lot of time for him to be involved more Paths stuff is in the trailer, they are 100% going to end at 122. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Jan 15, 2021 3:18 PM
#2804
yaegerist-15 said: CePl17 said: would be weird, some leaks say episode 9 adapts chapter 106 and half of 107, are they gonna cut 30% of the dialogue between 106-116? They would have to rush it or to make a double length episode at the endyaegerist-15 said: Edylson said: we won’t see the paths episodes this season, I think they will adapt till chapter 119NomaanMalick said: Hey! Why do you people think Hayashi hasn't been as involved with SnK as his previous projects? IIRC, he storyboarded all 12 episodes of DOROHEDORO, but so far he has only co-storyboarded two episodes for SnK. More surprisingly, he hasn't directed a single episode for the adaptation yet, not even the premiere of this season. Since SnK was a project that wasn't really planned for by MAPPA, I have a suspicion that MAPPA had a project in the pipeline for which he had been chosen as the director (a la Park with GoH and JJK). The preproduction phase of that anime must be keeping him busy. As such, he must be left with less than the ideal amount of time for working on SnK. That's why a veteran like Jun Shishido has been called in as a Chief Unit Director to lessen Hayashi's workload. Cuz he was busy with Dorohedoro, i mean at some point he was taking care of Aot and Dorohedoro at the same time. I have a feeling that at the very least he will storyboard the paths chapters, we are not halfway thorough the season yet so there's still a lot of time for him to be involved more Paths stuff is in the trailer, they are 100% going to end at 122. I think they can cut down on a lot of dialogue in the second arc. All the paths stuff can be in one episode as well with minimal cuts with no op + ed |
Jan 15, 2021 3:40 PM
#2805
yaegerist-15 said: Sourire said: that would be so good and a perfect cliffhangerCePl17 said: yaegerist-15 said: Edylson said: we won’t see the paths episodes this season, I think they will adapt till chapter 119NomaanMalick said: Hey! Why do you people think Hayashi hasn't been as involved with SnK as his previous projects? IIRC, he storyboarded all 12 episodes of DOROHEDORO, but so far he has only co-storyboarded two episodes for SnK. More surprisingly, he hasn't directed a single episode for the adaptation yet, not even the premiere of this season. Since SnK was a project that wasn't really planned for by MAPPA, I have a suspicion that MAPPA had a project in the pipeline for which he had been chosen as the director (a la Park with GoH and JJK). The preproduction phase of that anime must be keeping him busy. As such, he must be left with less than the ideal amount of time for working on SnK. That's why a veteran like Jun Shishido has been called in as a Chief Unit Director to lessen Hayashi's workload. Cuz he was busy with Dorohedoro, i mean at some point he was taking care of Aot and Dorohedoro at the same time. I have a feeling that at the very least he will storyboard the paths chapters, we are not halfway thorough the season yet so there's still a lot of time for him to be involved more Paths stuff is in the trailer, they are 100% going to end at 122. Nah they are definitely ending with 122, the reason why i say this is simple The title must be "From you to from you 2000 years from now" so the final episode of the season will parallel the very first one in s1 This is especially likely if they intend to make a movie after this season. |
Jan 15, 2021 3:50 PM
#2806
I still hope that they will somehow make it to 122 without seriously harming WfP's pacing. 119 would probably be a much less satisfying cutoff point, and it would be difficult to market the next cour/movie/whatever without spoiling Eren's survival and subsequent initiation of the Rumbling. |
Jan 15, 2021 4:10 PM
#2807
littlewillie610 said: they can’t do that with 8 episodes. 106-116 are so dialogue heavy, they have to do the uprising arc treatment do adapt all till chapter 122I still hope that they will somehow make it to 122 without seriously harming WfP's pacing. 119 would probably be a much less satisfying cutoff point, and it would be difficult to market the next cour/movie/whatever without spoiling Eren's survival and subsequent initiation of the Rumbling. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Jan 15, 2021 4:15 PM
#2808
yaegerist-15 said: littlewillie610 said: they can’t do that with 8 episodes. 106-116 are so dialogue heavy, they have to do the uprising arc treatment do adapt all till chapter 122I still hope that they will somehow make it to 122 without seriously harming WfP's pacing. 119 would probably be a much less satisfying cutoff point, and it would be difficult to market the next cour/movie/whatever without spoiling Eren's survival and subsequent initiation of the Rumbling. Double-length final solves this problem, and also 119 is perfect cliffhanger before season finale, but is's much worse as cliffhanger before second part/movie. |
Jan 15, 2021 4:22 PM
#2809
yaegerist-15 said: If 106 actually isn't being adapted until episode 9, then I think the best case scenario would be for them to rearrange some of the present day WfP material into the second half of episode 8 and then make the finale a double-length episode that covers the Paths chapters and the end of chapter 123. littlewillie610 said: they can’t do that with 8 episodes. 106-116 are so dialogue heavy, they have to do the uprising arc treatment do adapt all till chapter 122I still hope that they will somehow make it to 122 without seriously harming WfP's pacing. 119 would probably be a much less satisfying cutoff point, and it would be difficult to market the next cour/movie/whatever without spoiling Eren's survival and subsequent initiation of the Rumbling. |
Jan 15, 2021 5:22 PM
#2810
littlewillie610 said: rearranging isnt enough, 2 chapters per episode is possible with action chapters but a dialogue episode needs 1.5 chapter to not rush the pacing. They would cut at least half of a whole storyline, cut/change 20-30% of the dialogue between chapter 106-116 and they have to cut the op/ed 2-3 times.yaegerist-15 said: If 106 actually isn't being adapted until episode 9, then I think the best case scenario would be for them to rearrange some of the present day WfP material into the second half of episode 8 and then make the finale a double-length episode that covers the Paths chapters and the end of chapter 123. littlewillie610 said: I still hope that they will somehow make it to 122 without seriously harming WfP's pacing. 119 would probably be a much less satisfying cutoff point, and it would be difficult to market the next cour/movie/whatever without spoiling Eren's survival and subsequent initiation of the Rumbling. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Jan 15, 2021 5:38 PM
#2811
yaegerist-15 said: littlewillie610 said: rearranging isnt enough, 2 chapters per episode is possible with action chapters but a dialogue episode needs 1.5 chapter to not rush the pacing. They would cut at least half of a whole storyline, cut/change 20-30% of the dialogue between chapter 106-116 and they have to cut the op/ed 2-3 times.yaegerist-15 said: littlewillie610 said: they can’t do that with 8 episodes. 106-116 are so dialogue heavy, they have to do the uprising arc treatment do adapt all till chapter 122I still hope that they will somehow make it to 122 without seriously harming WfP's pacing. 119 would probably be a much less satisfying cutoff point, and it would be difficult to market the next cour/movie/whatever without spoiling Eren's survival and subsequent initiation of the Rumbling. This If the leaks are true, which I hope not, then WFP will have bigger cuts than Marley. Unless there is a double lenght ep, which is not likely. |
Jan 15, 2021 5:43 PM
#2812
MAQS said: lol forget about marley if they really intend to adapt chapter 106-123, even a double lenght episode wouldnt be enough, that would be 2 chapters per episode, too much if we take all the dialogue chapters into account and then the wfp arc would be like the uprising arc in s3 p1. But I liked the marley arc and the 5 episodes were all good to me. I just dont want several storylines and dialogeu cutted like in s3 p1yaegerist-15 said: littlewillie610 said: yaegerist-15 said: If 106 actually isn't being adapted until episode 9, then I think the best case scenario would be for them to rearrange some of the present day WfP material into the second half of episode 8 and then make the finale a double-length episode that covers the Paths chapters and the end of chapter 123. littlewillie610 said: they can’t do that with 8 episodes. 106-116 are so dialogue heavy, they have to do the uprising arc treatment do adapt all till chapter 122I still hope that they will somehow make it to 122 without seriously harming WfP's pacing. 119 would probably be a much less satisfying cutoff point, and it would be difficult to market the next cour/movie/whatever without spoiling Eren's survival and subsequent initiation of the Rumbling. This If the leaks are true, which I hope not, then WFP will have bigger cuts than Marley. Unless there is a double lenght ep, which is not likely. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Jan 15, 2021 5:45 PM
#2813
MAQS said: buuut its not official that they will adapt till chapter 122. If they adapt 106-119 in 8 episodes then all Ive said wouldnt be the caseyaegerist-15 said: littlewillie610 said: yaegerist-15 said: If 106 actually isn't being adapted until episode 9, then I think the best case scenario would be for them to rearrange some of the present day WfP material into the second half of episode 8 and then make the finale a double-length episode that covers the Paths chapters and the end of chapter 123. littlewillie610 said: they can’t do that with 8 episodes. 106-116 are so dialogue heavy, they have to do the uprising arc treatment do adapt all till chapter 122I still hope that they will somehow make it to 122 without seriously harming WfP's pacing. 119 would probably be a much less satisfying cutoff point, and it would be difficult to market the next cour/movie/whatever without spoiling Eren's survival and subsequent initiation of the Rumbling. This If the leaks are true, which I hope not, then WFP will have bigger cuts than Marley. Unless there is a double lenght ep, which is not likely. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Jan 15, 2021 5:48 PM
#2814
yaegerist-15 said: MAQS said: lol forget about marley if they really intend to adapt chapter 106-123, even a double lenght episode wouldnt be enough, that would be 2 chapters per episode, too much if we take all the dialogue chapters into account and then the wfp arc would be like the uprising arc in s3 p1. But I liked the marley arc and the 5 episodes were all good to me. I just dont want several storylines and dialogeu cutted like in s3 p1yaegerist-15 said: littlewillie610 said: rearranging isnt enough, 2 chapters per episode is possible with action chapters but a dialogue episode needs 1.5 chapter to not rush the pacing. They would cut at least half of a whole storyline, cut/change 20-30% of the dialogue between chapter 106-116 and they have to cut the op/ed 2-3 times.yaegerist-15 said: If 106 actually isn't being adapted until episode 9, then I think the best case scenario would be for them to rearrange some of the present day WfP material into the second half of episode 8 and then make the finale a double-length episode that covers the Paths chapters and the end of chapter 123. littlewillie610 said: they can’t do that with 8 episodes. 106-116 are so dialogue heavy, they have to do the uprising arc treatment do adapt all till chapter 122I still hope that they will somehow make it to 122 without seriously harming WfP's pacing. 119 would probably be a much less satisfying cutoff point, and it would be difficult to market the next cour/movie/whatever without spoiling Eren's survival and subsequent initiation of the Rumbling. This If the leaks are true, which I hope not, then WFP will have bigger cuts than Marley. Unless there is a double lenght ep, which is not likely. Ch 123 if adapted at all wont be adapted fully, it will probably be the last 5 pages, none of the flashback stuff. And even the leak is true, its half of ch 106 going into ep 9. A double lenght ep would guarantee better cuts than Marley, but without it, not very much. |
Jan 15, 2021 5:50 PM
#2815
MAQS said: you mean half of chapter 107? Or do you mean half of chapter 106 goes into episode 8 when sasha dies? Yeah I think we can all agree that a double lengt episode could really cover 119-122 and some pages from 123 yaegerist-15 said: MAQS said: yaegerist-15 said: littlewillie610 said: rearranging isnt enough, 2 chapters per episode is possible with action chapters but a dialogue episode needs 1.5 chapter to not rush the pacing. They would cut at least half of a whole storyline, cut/change 20-30% of the dialogue between chapter 106-116 and they have to cut the op/ed 2-3 times.yaegerist-15 said: If 106 actually isn't being adapted until episode 9, then I think the best case scenario would be for them to rearrange some of the present day WfP material into the second half of episode 8 and then make the finale a double-length episode that covers the Paths chapters and the end of chapter 123. littlewillie610 said: they can’t do that with 8 episodes. 106-116 are so dialogue heavy, they have to do the uprising arc treatment do adapt all till chapter 122I still hope that they will somehow make it to 122 without seriously harming WfP's pacing. 119 would probably be a much less satisfying cutoff point, and it would be difficult to market the next cour/movie/whatever without spoiling Eren's survival and subsequent initiation of the Rumbling. This If the leaks are true, which I hope not, then WFP will have bigger cuts than Marley. Unless there is a double lenght ep, which is not likely. Ch 123 if adapted at all wont be adapted fully, it will probably be the last 5 pages, none of the flashback stuff. And even the leak is true, its half of ch 106 going into ep 9. A double lenght ep would guarantee better cuts than Marley, but without it, not very much. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Jan 15, 2021 5:51 PM
#2816
yaegerist-15 said: MAQS said: buuut its not official that they will adapt till chapter 122. If they adapt 106-119 in 8 episodes then all Ive said wouldnt be the caseyaegerist-15 said: littlewillie610 said: rearranging isnt enough, 2 chapters per episode is possible with action chapters but a dialogue episode needs 1.5 chapter to not rush the pacing. They would cut at least half of a whole storyline, cut/change 20-30% of the dialogue between chapter 106-116 and they have to cut the op/ed 2-3 times.yaegerist-15 said: If 106 actually isn't being adapted until episode 9, then I think the best case scenario would be for them to rearrange some of the present day WfP material into the second half of episode 8 and then make the finale a double-length episode that covers the Paths chapters and the end of chapter 123. littlewillie610 said: they can’t do that with 8 episodes. 106-116 are so dialogue heavy, they have to do the uprising arc treatment do adapt all till chapter 122I still hope that they will somehow make it to 122 without seriously harming WfP's pacing. 119 would probably be a much less satisfying cutoff point, and it would be difficult to market the next cour/movie/whatever without spoiling Eren's survival and subsequent initiation of the Rumbling. This If the leaks are true, which I hope not, then WFP will have bigger cuts than Marley. Unless there is a double lenght ep, which is not likely. Its more likely a double lenght episode than them ending at 119 specially when spy or was it checker, said the season will adapt everything seen in the trailer. Meaning at least, ch 122. |
Jan 15, 2021 5:52 PM
#2817
yaegerist-15 said: MAQS said: you mean half of chapter 107? Or do you mean half of chapter 106 goes into episode 8 when sasha dies? Yeah I think we can all agree that a double lengt episode could really cover 119-122 and some pages from 123 yaegerist-15 said: MAQS said: lol forget about marley if they really intend to adapt chapter 106-123, even a double lenght episode wouldnt be enough, that would be 2 chapters per episode, too much if we take all the dialogue chapters into account and then the wfp arc would be like the uprising arc in s3 p1. But I liked the marley arc and the 5 episodes were all good to me. I just dont want several storylines and dialogeu cutted like in s3 p1yaegerist-15 said: littlewillie610 said: rearranging isnt enough, 2 chapters per episode is possible with action chapters but a dialogue episode needs 1.5 chapter to not rush the pacing. They would cut at least half of a whole storyline, cut/change 20-30% of the dialogue between chapter 106-116 and they have to cut the op/ed 2-3 times.yaegerist-15 said: If 106 actually isn't being adapted until episode 9, then I think the best case scenario would be for them to rearrange some of the present day WfP material into the second half of episode 8 and then make the finale a double-length episode that covers the Paths chapters and the end of chapter 123. littlewillie610 said: they can’t do that with 8 episodes. 106-116 are so dialogue heavy, they have to do the uprising arc treatment do adapt all till chapter 122I still hope that they will somehow make it to 122 without seriously harming WfP's pacing. 119 would probably be a much less satisfying cutoff point, and it would be difficult to market the next cour/movie/whatever without spoiling Eren's survival and subsequent initiation of the Rumbling. This If the leaks are true, which I hope not, then WFP will have bigger cuts than Marley. Unless there is a double lenght ep, which is not likely. Ch 123 if adapted at all wont be adapted fully, it will probably be the last 5 pages, none of the flashback stuff. And even the leak is true, its half of ch 106 going into ep 9. A double lenght ep would guarantee better cuts than Marley, but without it, not very much. Yes, I see no way ep 8 will stop at ch 105 only. Unless they drag out sasha death, for tears sake or something. |
Jan 15, 2021 5:55 PM
#2818
MAQS said: That's very possible, they could add an anime original flashback or something.yaegerist-15 said: MAQS said: yaegerist-15 said: MAQS said: lol forget about marley if they really intend to adapt chapter 106-123, even a double lenght episode wouldnt be enough, that would be 2 chapters per episode, too much if we take all the dialogue chapters into account and then the wfp arc would be like the uprising arc in s3 p1. But I liked the marley arc and the 5 episodes were all good to me. I just dont want several storylines and dialogeu cutted like in s3 p1yaegerist-15 said: littlewillie610 said: rearranging isnt enough, 2 chapters per episode is possible with action chapters but a dialogue episode needs 1.5 chapter to not rush the pacing. They would cut at least half of a whole storyline, cut/change 20-30% of the dialogue between chapter 106-116 and they have to cut the op/ed 2-3 times.yaegerist-15 said: If 106 actually isn't being adapted until episode 9, then I think the best case scenario would be for them to rearrange some of the present day WfP material into the second half of episode 8 and then make the finale a double-length episode that covers the Paths chapters and the end of chapter 123. littlewillie610 said: they can’t do that with 8 episodes. 106-116 are so dialogue heavy, they have to do the uprising arc treatment do adapt all till chapter 122I still hope that they will somehow make it to 122 without seriously harming WfP's pacing. 119 would probably be a much less satisfying cutoff point, and it would be difficult to market the next cour/movie/whatever without spoiling Eren's survival and subsequent initiation of the Rumbling. This If the leaks are true, which I hope not, then WFP will have bigger cuts than Marley. Unless there is a double lenght ep, which is not likely. Ch 123 if adapted at all wont be adapted fully, it will probably be the last 5 pages, none of the flashback stuff. And even the leak is true, its half of ch 106 going into ep 9. A double lenght ep would guarantee better cuts than Marley, but without it, not very much. Yes, I see no way ep 8 will stop at ch 105 only. Unless they drag out sasha death, for tears sake or something. |
Jan 15, 2021 5:56 PM
#2819
I_Am_Freeballing said: yeah maybe some flashbacks from chapter 106 and 107, would be good to rearrangeMAQS said: That's very possible, they could add an anime original flashback or something.yaegerist-15 said: MAQS said: you mean half of chapter 107? Or do you mean half of chapter 106 goes into episode 8 when sasha dies? Yeah I think we can all agree that a double lengt episode could really cover 119-122 and some pages from 123 yaegerist-15 said: MAQS said: lol forget about marley if they really intend to adapt chapter 106-123, even a double lenght episode wouldnt be enough, that would be 2 chapters per episode, too much if we take all the dialogue chapters into account and then the wfp arc would be like the uprising arc in s3 p1. But I liked the marley arc and the 5 episodes were all good to me. I just dont want several storylines and dialogeu cutted like in s3 p1yaegerist-15 said: littlewillie610 said: rearranging isnt enough, 2 chapters per episode is possible with action chapters but a dialogue episode needs 1.5 chapter to not rush the pacing. They would cut at least half of a whole storyline, cut/change 20-30% of the dialogue between chapter 106-116 and they have to cut the op/ed 2-3 times.yaegerist-15 said: If 106 actually isn't being adapted until episode 9, then I think the best case scenario would be for them to rearrange some of the present day WfP material into the second half of episode 8 and then make the finale a double-length episode that covers the Paths chapters and the end of chapter 123. littlewillie610 said: they can’t do that with 8 episodes. 106-116 are so dialogue heavy, they have to do the uprising arc treatment do adapt all till chapter 122I still hope that they will somehow make it to 122 without seriously harming WfP's pacing. 119 would probably be a much less satisfying cutoff point, and it would be difficult to market the next cour/movie/whatever without spoiling Eren's survival and subsequent initiation of the Rumbling. This If the leaks are true, which I hope not, then WFP will have bigger cuts than Marley. Unless there is a double lenght ep, which is not likely. Ch 123 if adapted at all wont be adapted fully, it will probably be the last 5 pages, none of the flashback stuff. And even the leak is true, its half of ch 106 going into ep 9. A double lenght ep would guarantee better cuts than Marley, but without it, not very much. Yes, I see no way ep 8 will stop at ch 105 only. Unless they drag out sasha death, for tears sake or something. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Jan 15, 2021 6:01 PM
#2820
I_Am_Freeballing said: MAQS said: That's very possible, they could add an anime original flashback or something.yaegerist-15 said: MAQS said: you mean half of chapter 107? Or do you mean half of chapter 106 goes into episode 8 when sasha dies? Yeah I think we can all agree that a double lengt episode could really cover 119-122 and some pages from 123 yaegerist-15 said: MAQS said: lol forget about marley if they really intend to adapt chapter 106-123, even a double lenght episode wouldnt be enough, that would be 2 chapters per episode, too much if we take all the dialogue chapters into account and then the wfp arc would be like the uprising arc in s3 p1. But I liked the marley arc and the 5 episodes were all good to me. I just dont want several storylines and dialogeu cutted like in s3 p1yaegerist-15 said: littlewillie610 said: rearranging isnt enough, 2 chapters per episode is possible with action chapters but a dialogue episode needs 1.5 chapter to not rush the pacing. They would cut at least half of a whole storyline, cut/change 20-30% of the dialogue between chapter 106-116 and they have to cut the op/ed 2-3 times.yaegerist-15 said: If 106 actually isn't being adapted until episode 9, then I think the best case scenario would be for them to rearrange some of the present day WfP material into the second half of episode 8 and then make the finale a double-length episode that covers the Paths chapters and the end of chapter 123. littlewillie610 said: they can’t do that with 8 episodes. 106-116 are so dialogue heavy, they have to do the uprising arc treatment do adapt all till chapter 122I still hope that they will somehow make it to 122 without seriously harming WfP's pacing. 119 would probably be a much less satisfying cutoff point, and it would be difficult to market the next cour/movie/whatever without spoiling Eren's survival and subsequent initiation of the Rumbling. This If the leaks are true, which I hope not, then WFP will have bigger cuts than Marley. Unless there is a double lenght ep, which is not likely. Ch 123 if adapted at all wont be adapted fully, it will probably be the last 5 pages, none of the flashback stuff. And even the leak is true, its half of ch 106 going into ep 9. A double lenght ep would guarantee better cuts than Marley, but without it, not very much. Yes, I see no way ep 8 will stop at ch 105 only. Unless they drag out sasha death, for tears sake or something. Actually that makes a lot of sense arranging the flashbacks to that episode especially with the gunshot transition |
Jan 15, 2021 8:52 PM
#2821
I_Am_Freeballing said: it's highest was 9.23 at the end of the season. @MAQSMAQS said: When did it reach that? If it's the initial score after ep1 then it doesn't matter since even this season was 9.22 on the premiere date if I remember correctly because it was only rated by fanboys.Zprotu said: MAQS said: PrasantGrG said: MAQS said: So, you really think the majority of people that will finally rate the season once it ends will off set the results we are getting now and place AOT as #1? Assuming the rest of the season doesnt melts. Yes, my main assumption is it doesn't shit the bed. I didn't say once it ends but rather till it airs and a short period after it ends (maybe a week). Completion boost will be huge considering duplicate accounts which didn't list as watching past the 3rd episode will not even be considered instead of being weighted. And I don't think there's ever been a better conclusion to an 'arc'. A reference for how high the content is rated btw. The manga has averaged over 9 in terms of new votes since the PATH chapters dropped, 9.15~ over the last 6 months and 9.4 since the anime dropped. #1 is a foregone conclusion in my book unless the adaptation fails severely,and it could happen as soon as Episode 7. Whether it can hold a long term 9.3 what I'm curious about. The current score of 9.14/5 was it's rate of growth between episode 3/4. DoW numbers are near impossible to replicate but since the scores given around episode 3/4 were already averaging around the current displayed score. It'll keep going up for a decent amount of time. If Demon Slayer can go from 8.4s before episode 19 to 8.95 overall at its end due to completion boost and new member boost despite being considered overrated really quick, AoT given its hype maintains can easily break and maintain a 9.3 My point is, AOT will not stay at NO1 for longer than a few days at most a week. you use KNY as a example of growth, well it had 8.94 with ep 19 but now that everything its settled, its .30 points lower than that. because people realized it had an average story lol AOT S3p2 reached 9.24 once, its .15 lower. Its because casual fans digg in, those that find AOT really damn good and give it a 8 or 9 but not a 10, and they come en masse when the season ends. MAQS said: after episode 5 it wasn't even close to 9.15 boy.I_Am_Freeballing said: MAQS said: Zprotu said: MAQS said: PrasantGrG said: MAQS said: So, you really think the majority of people that will finally rate the season once it ends will off set the results we are getting now and place AOT as #1? Assuming the rest of the season doesnt melts. Yes, my main assumption is it doesn't shit the bed. I didn't say once it ends but rather till it airs and a short period after it ends (maybe a week). Completion boost will be huge considering duplicate accounts which didn't list as watching past the 3rd episode will not even be considered instead of being weighted. And I don't think there's ever been a better conclusion to an 'arc'. A reference for how high the content is rated btw. The manga has averaged over 9 in terms of new votes since the PATH chapters dropped, 9.15~ over the last 6 months and 9.4 since the anime dropped. #1 is a foregone conclusion in my book unless the adaptation fails severely,and it could happen as soon as Episode 7. Whether it can hold a long term 9.3 what I'm curious about. The current score of 9.14/5 was it's rate of growth between episode 3/4. DoW numbers are near impossible to replicate but since the scores given around episode 3/4 were already averaging around the current displayed score. It'll keep going up for a decent amount of time. If Demon Slayer can go from 8.4s before episode 19 to 8.95 overall at its end due to completion boost and new member boost despite being considered overrated really quick, AoT given its hype maintains can easily break and maintain a 9.3 My point is, AOT will not stay at NO1 for longer than a few days at most a week. you use KNY as a example of growth, well it had 8.94 with ep 19 but now that everything its settled, its .30 points lower than that. because people realized it had an average story lol AOT S3p2 reached 9.24 once, its .15 lower. Its because casual fans digg in, those that find AOT really damn good and give it a 8 or 9 but not a 10, and they come en masse when the season ends. After ep 5, it was for like 2 hours. |
"I think I wanted to attack something. Like betraying people or hurting people. And, well, it's not exactly nice, but hurting the readers too... In all honestly, I feel that's what I really wanted to do. For me, as a reader, when I think, "this manga will remain in my heart," it means, for example, it phenomenally hurt me: It's those kinds of experiences I'm after." - Pajime Hisayama (My favourite hurting author). |
Jan 15, 2021 9:34 PM
#2822
https://www.bilibili.com/blackboard/AOY2020_ranking_list.html#scene0-slide0 AoT won every single category it could possibly be in by a large margin on bilibili. And here I thought AoT was banned in China |
Jan 15, 2021 9:45 PM
#2823
Best Cg in anime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jCPQe9g-TE |
Jan 15, 2021 9:56 PM
#2824
I think that the last episode will begin with Willy talking to Magath in the carriage, just as it was in the manga. It would be good to see a decent transition from the past to the present (which is: from the time they finished their conversation to the moment in which episode 5 ended). I wouldn't mind having a close-up to Willy's face looking in the night sky in the carriage, only to change the scenery to him being in the air about to be killed (or rather massacrated more) by Eren being in his titan form. |
Jan 15, 2021 10:08 PM
#2825
Adnash93 said: I think that the last episode will begin with Willy talking to Magath in the carriage, just as it was in the manga. It would be good to see a decent transition from the past to the present (which is: from the time they finished their conversation to the moment in which episode 5 ended). I wouldn't mind having a close-up to Willy's face looking in the night sky in the carriage, only to change the scenery to him being in the air about to be killed (or rather massacrated more) by Eren being in his titan form. I was also wondering how they were going to transition between the two scenes. Im also curious where its going to end because levis VA isnt listed for ep 6 yet everyone thinks its going to end with that paradis vs marley double panel. |
Jan 15, 2021 10:16 PM
#2826
Taltibalti said: I was also wondering how they were going to transition between the two scenes. Im also curious where its going to end because levis VA isnt listed for ep 6 yet everyone thinks its going to end with that paradis vs marley double panel. I think the transition I mentioned in my post would be the best. Not because I thought about it (or perhaps not mostly because of it, lol), but because I feel it could be a good way to present the events happening shortly before the Declaration of War speech and shortly after Eren emerged from that cellar. Everything without ruining the pacing or tension with preserving the atmosphere that episode 5's final scene presented. Hmm... About the second part of your post, I think ep. 6 might end with Eren being ganked by Marley's Warriors, leaving viewers with the feeling of uncertainity and leaving Paradis' forces to appear for the next episode. It would be epic if it ended with the panel you have mentioned. It's still possible, though, even if Levi's voice actor was not mentioned in episode 6's credits. Levi might be silent and Zeke might take the role of the narrator describing what's happening. ;p |
Jan 15, 2021 10:20 PM
#2827
Adnash93 said: Taltibalti said: I was also wondering how they were going to transition between the two scenes. Im also curious where its going to end because levis VA isnt listed for ep 6 yet everyone thinks its going to end with that paradis vs marley double panel. I think the transition I mentioned in my post would be the best. Not because I thought about it (or perhaps not mostly because of it, lol), but because I feel it could be a good way to present the events happening shortly before the Declaration of War speech and shortly after Eren emerged from that cellar. Everything without ruining the pacing or tension with preserving the atmosphere that episode 5's final scene presented. Hmm... About the second part of your post, I think ep. 6 might end with Eren being ganked by Marley's Warriors, leaving viewers with the feeling of uncertainity and leaving Paradis' forces to appear for the next episode. It would be epic if it ended with the panel you have mentioned. It's still possible, though, even if Levi's voice actor was not mentioned in episode 6's credits. Levi might be silent and Zeke might take the role of the narrator describing what's happening. ;p Looking back at the last page, it could be the first bit of dialogue is from the beast titan based off the shaky bubble and the other part in the last panel is from Zeke himself. That could be the original intention from the manga but we thought Levi was the one saying it, when in reality, the bubble did not indicate it was from Levi, which I think it means its being said by the same character which is beast titan/Zeke. Just a possibility. |
keragammingJan 15, 2021 10:28 PM
Jan 15, 2021 10:46 PM
#2828
keragamming said: Adnash93 said: Taltibalti said: I was also wondering how they were going to transition between the two scenes. Im also curious where its going to end because levis VA isnt listed for ep 6 yet everyone thinks its going to end with that paradis vs marley double panel. I think the transition I mentioned in my post would be the best. Not because I thought about it (or perhaps not mostly because of it, lol), but because I feel it could be a good way to present the events happening shortly before the Declaration of War speech and shortly after Eren emerged from that cellar. Everything without ruining the pacing or tension with preserving the atmosphere that episode 5's final scene presented. Hmm... About the second part of your post, I think ep. 6 might end with Eren being ganked by Marley's Warriors, leaving viewers with the feeling of uncertainity and leaving Paradis' forces to appear for the next episode. It would be epic if it ended with the panel you have mentioned. It's still possible, though, even if Levi's voice actor was not mentioned in episode 6's credits. Levi might be silent and Zeke might take the role of the narrator describing what's happening. ;p Looking back at the last page, it could be the first bit of dialogue is from the beast titan based off the shaky bubble and the other part in the last panel is from Zeke himself. That could be the original intention from the manga but we thought Levi was the one saying it, when in reality, the bubble did not indicate it was from Levi, which I think it means its being said by the same character which is beast titan/Zeke. Just a possibility. Maybe there's a reason why Levi's VA isn't listed....its cuz he's expensive AF. So paying him the same amount of money just to say one line isn't really worth it, so maybe that line will go to someone else. Or maybe he's not listed because it's just one line and they didn't bother putting his name there Dunno. On another note, did something happened to Paolo's account on twitter?? Can't find him |
Jan 15, 2021 11:09 PM
#2829
Oh dear lord Now we got rumours of levi's va not apart of the final season? |
Jan 15, 2021 11:11 PM
#2830
Edylson said: keragamming said: Adnash93 said: Taltibalti said: I was also wondering how they were going to transition between the two scenes. Im also curious where its going to end because levis VA isnt listed for ep 6 yet everyone thinks its going to end with that paradis vs marley double panel. I think the transition I mentioned in my post would be the best. Not because I thought about it (or perhaps not mostly because of it, lol), but because I feel it could be a good way to present the events happening shortly before the Declaration of War speech and shortly after Eren emerged from that cellar. Everything without ruining the pacing or tension with preserving the atmosphere that episode 5's final scene presented. Hmm... About the second part of your post, I think ep. 6 might end with Eren being ganked by Marley's Warriors, leaving viewers with the feeling of uncertainity and leaving Paradis' forces to appear for the next episode. It would be epic if it ended with the panel you have mentioned. It's still possible, though, even if Levi's voice actor was not mentioned in episode 6's credits. Levi might be silent and Zeke might take the role of the narrator describing what's happening. ;p Looking back at the last page, it could be the first bit of dialogue is from the beast titan based off the shaky bubble and the other part in the last panel is from Zeke himself. That could be the original intention from the manga but we thought Levi was the one saying it, when in reality, the bubble did not indicate it was from Levi, which I think it means its being said by the same character which is beast titan/Zeke. Just a possibility. Maybe there's a reason why Levi's VA isn't listed....its cuz he's expensive AF. So paying him the same amount of money just to say one line isn't really worth it, so maybe that line will go to someone else. Or maybe he's not listed because it's just one line and they didn't bother putting his name there Dunno. On another note, did something happened to Paolo's account on twitter?? Can't find him Shit you're right. I cant find him anywhere |
TaltibaltiJan 15, 2021 11:25 PM
Jan 15, 2021 11:25 PM
#2831
He is see staff list man please don't overreact http://www.mappa.co.jp/works/works_shingeki.html |
Jan 15, 2021 11:26 PM
#2832
No, not at all. You misunderstand what we are talking about. |
Jan 15, 2021 11:31 PM
#2833
Well if that's the case then I apologise for taking it the wrong way |
Jan 16, 2021 12:00 AM
#2834
Are the soldiers from paradis va's listed for the next ep? |
Jan 16, 2021 12:10 AM
#2835
Sasaki841 said: Are the soldiers from paradis va's listed for the next ep? Yes all of them are listed |
Jan 16, 2021 12:31 AM
#2836
Jan 16, 2021 12:56 AM
#2837
I just realized one thing. The OSTs used in Episode 1, when Gabi removes her clothes for her idea, and in Episode 5, when Pieck and Galliard get trapped are the same. Didn't notice this at all. Not that it matters lol. |
Jan 16, 2021 1:04 AM
#2838
Koustubh said: I just realized one thing. The OSTs used in Episode 1, when Gabi removes her clothes for her idea, and in Episode 5, when Pieck and Galliard get trapped are the same. Didn't notice this at all. Not that it matters lol. It was also used for Willy announcement in ep 4 |
Jan 16, 2021 2:32 AM
#2839
Krugerman said: Koustubh said: I just realized one thing. The OSTs used in Episode 1, when Gabi removes her clothes for her idea, and in Episode 5, when Pieck and Galliard get trapped are the same. Didn't notice this at all. Not that it matters lol. It was also used for Willy announcement in ep 4 Oh, I see. I didn't notice that as well lol. It's a good OST, I must say. It fit very well in all the scenes. |
Jan 16, 2021 2:37 AM
#2840
Koustubh said: Krugerman said: Koustubh said: I just realized one thing. The OSTs used in Episode 1, when Gabi removes her clothes for her idea, and in Episode 5, when Pieck and Galliard get trapped are the same. Didn't notice this at all. Not that it matters lol. It was also used for Willy announcement in ep 4 Oh, I see. I didn't notice that as well lol. It's a good OST, I must say. It fit very well in all the scenes. Yeah people were worried about Yamamoto not being capable enough but so far he is doing great, the leaked ost especially is so good, can't wait for them to use it. |
Jan 16, 2021 2:40 AM
#2841
dompsterfire said: where did people hear that Levi's va isn't in the next ep? cuz I highly doubt that rumour must be the translated list of the VA list like here https://twitter.com/kasumi_kasa/status/1348138727546130433 Attack on Titan Episode 65 "THE WAR HAMMER TITAN" The names of the voice actors for Mikasa, Jean, Connie, Sasha, and Flock are on the list. Finally, Survey Corps appear! |
Jan 16, 2021 3:02 AM
#2842
deg said: thanks. dompsterfire said: where did people hear that Levi's va isn't in the next ep? cuz I highly doubt that rumour must be the translated list of the VA list like here https://twitter.com/kasumi_kasa/status/1348138727546130433 Attack on Titan Episode 65 "THE WAR HAMMER TITAN" The names of the voice actors for Mikasa, Jean, Connie, Sasha, and Flock are on the list. Finally, Survey Corps appear! hmmm maybe they'll just reuse some of his lines from before? For all we know Eren could be saying the line in the end though. |
Jan 16, 2021 5:02 AM
#2843
dompsterfire said: deg said: thanks. dompsterfire said: where did people hear that Levi's va isn't in the next ep? cuz I highly doubt that rumour must be the translated list of the VA list like here https://twitter.com/kasumi_kasa/status/1348138727546130433 Attack on Titan Episode 65 "THE WAR HAMMER TITAN" The names of the voice actors for Mikasa, Jean, Connie, Sasha, and Flock are on the list. Finally, Survey Corps appear! hmmm maybe they'll just reuse some of his lines from before? For all we know Eren could be saying the line in the end though. i got no idea man but probably we will see less than 24 hours from now |
Jan 16, 2021 5:36 AM
#2844
Hey, what ost do you guys expect to see in the next ep? |
Jan 16, 2021 5:43 AM
#2845
Sasaki841 said: Hey, what ost do you guys expect to see in the next ep? it's going to be YOUSEEBIGGIRL |
Jan 16, 2021 6:33 AM
#2846
Sasaki841 said: Hey, what ost do you guys expect to see in the next ep? 24 minutes of non-stop YOUSEEBIGGIRL |
Jan 16, 2021 6:48 AM
#2847
Sasaki841 said: Hey, what ost do you guys expect to see in the next ep? YOUSEEBIGTITS, otherwise MAPPA is cancelled |
Jan 16, 2021 7:12 AM
#2848
Kaito10 said: Sasaki841 said: Hey, what ost do you guys expect to see in the next ep? Only YouSeeBIGGIRL, full episode. Opening? YouSeeBIGGIRL! Ending? YouSeeBIGGIRL! Voice actors? ALSO YouSeeBIGGIRL! If they don't use YouSeeBIGGIRL in the next JJK episode and Chainsaw man too, then AOT is ruined. You're quite funny you know ? In another thread you say to "stop spreading negativity because it starts flame wars, we're here for meaningful discussions" and yet you're here basically provoking people who just didn't like the ost lmao |
Jan 16, 2021 7:13 AM
#2849
I don’t want to sound all high and mighty by saying this and it’s probably ironic coming from me, but this thread is the most anxiety inducing thing I’ve ever experienced online. Analyzing the production at this level (obsessively grasping at straws, feeding yourselves with panic) will inevitably taint your viewing experience. You guys all love AoT way too much to let something like this happen. I personally experienced how healthy it is for myself as well as my viewing experience to leave these threads for a few weeks (I’m limiting my own posts to a weekly episode review). A lot of you will probably enjoy the episodes much more if you rid yourselves of the MAL anxiety. A work like Attack on Titan is meant to immerse the viewer in its fictional universe; Constantly obsessing over backend-related issues will pull you out of AoT’s world, straight into its production. I learned that this show works best when you allow yourselves to simply forget about the fact that each image is the result of an (anxiety-packed) working process. |
Jan 16, 2021 7:21 AM
#2850
MironBiron said: I don’t want to sound all high and mighty by saying this and it’s probably ironic coming from me, but this thread is the most anxiety inducing thing I’ve ever experienced online. Analyzing the production at this level (obsessively grasping at straws, feeding yourselves with panic) will inevitably taint your viewing experience. You guys all love AoT way too much to let something like this happen. I personally experienced how healthy it is for myself as well as my viewing experience to leave these threads for a few weeks (I’m limiting my own posts to a weekly episode review). A lot of you will probably enjoy the episodes much more if you rid yourselves of the MAL anxiety. A work like Attack on Titan is meant to immerse the viewer in its fictional universe; Constantly obsessing over backend-related issues will pull you out of AoT’s world, straight into its production. I learned that this show works best when you allow yourselves to simply forget about the fact that each image is the result of an (anxiety-packed) working process. FACTS, couldn't agree more, just enjoy the ride, this is the final season after all |
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