General Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

HyperL said:
Any more news or insight since Ajay's brief opinion?

Harsha1314 said:
nothing much at all really, OD's fleet yesterday pretty told about all the cuts which seem very smart and logical, Ajay says the episode apparently was very good, we can only decide if it was great or not once we watch it this sunday ourselves, but yeah there is that AT's new image analysis about how it looks quite different from before, here in the general thread

HyperL said:

Figured. Guess I'll just have to bear the wait.

Bababazooka69 said:

deg said:
@Harsha1314

done they are deleted now

Harsha1314 said:
idk if this goes against rules somehow im screwed

Best childhood friend ever. 🤣😂🤣🤣👍

MAPPAEN said:
Has anyone wondered How the Wht will be voiced?
Choose your guess:
A) like a annie's titan female voice (even though She only screamed)

B) Like Zeke in s2 deep voice

C) Like Pieck voice in S3p2

OR

D) Like the less deep voice of Zeke's Beast titan in S3p2

deg said:


ah ok fair enough if youre emphasizing critical acclaim and not popularity

MAPPAEN said:
Has anyone wondered How the Wht will be voiced?
Choose your guess:
A) like a annie's titan female voice (even though She only screamed)

B) Like Zeke in s2 deep voice

C) Like Pieck voice in S3p2

OR

D) Like the less deep voice of Zeke's Beast titan in S3p2

MAPPAEN said:



Oh godd just try to imagine I bet my ass off that the sound director will have a lot of troublesome work whne this is going to get adapted. Like only the pages Makes it soo terryfying, it will get even more terryfying with sound.

MAQS said:


And whatever music they decide to pair it with ohhh

HollowInsomnia said:
[/spoiler] I wish Mappa didn't pick up this anime. They're a great studio and I like the CGI they've done with season 4 so far, the Jaw looks great and while it did look a bit odd, the Beast had way better animation than in season 2 and 3P2. It hasn't had as good of high points as WIT has, but no where near as bad as WIT's lows. (Blue ring around Eren Titan's arm being the shockwave from his punch on Reiner's Titan in 3Pw) But besides that, Mappa was stupid to adapt this into an anime.

First of all, they have a lot to live up to. WIT managed to have amazing Sakuga constantly throughout their series, even if it was outsourced. And when the animation was lacking due to them cutting corners and such, the musical score as well as the story carried it to the point where besides all of the lacking animation in season 3P2 compared to other seasons many consider it the series' peak so far. They've also managed to (mostly) blend CGI well with the 2D drawings.

[/spoiler] On the other hand, Mappa's CGI while better for the most part, is extremely noticeable and is why many people have been complaining about the new season looking worse. The beast titan, while might be animated better, he looks like a 3D model slapped into frame. And the music has been lacking a lot, with the first episode using only the trailer theme which is just lazy on the studio's part, as well as them putting 2 chapters into every episode. I'll wait till episode 5/6 to see if they can change my mind on the animation, and the rest of the Marley arc past that to see whether or not 2 chapters per episode will work. I think a much better fitting studio for this final season would be UFOTable or Bones.

MAQS said:


Exactly, otherwise LOGH has no business as my go to comparison.

That one its obscure as shit.

HollowInsomnia said:
[/spoiler] I wish Mappa didn't pick up this anime. They're a great studio and I like the CGI they've done with season 4 so far, the Jaw looks great and while it did look a bit odd, the Beast had way better animation than in season 2 and 3P2. It hasn't had as good of high points as WIT has, but no where near as bad as WIT's lows. (Blue ring around Eren Titan's arm being the shockwave from his punch on Reiner's Titan in 3Pw) But besides that, Mappa was stupid to adapt this into an anime.

First of all, they have a lot to live up to. WIT managed to have amazing Sakuga constantly throughout their series, even if it was outsourced. And when the animation was lacking due to them cutting corners and such, the musical score as well as the story carried it to the point where besides all of the lacking animation in season 3P2 compared to other seasons many consider it the series' peak so far. They've also managed to (mostly) blend CGI well with the 2D drawings.

[/spoiler] On the other hand, Mappa's CGI while better for the most part, is extremely noticeable and is why many people have been complaining about the new season looking worse. The beast titan, while might be animated better, he looks like a 3D model slapped into frame. And the music has been lacking a lot, with the first episode using only the trailer theme which is just lazy on the studio's part, as well as them putting 2 chapters into every episode. I'll wait till episode 5/6 to see if they can change my mind on the animation, and the rest of the Marley arc past that to see whether or not 2 chapters per episode will work. I think a much better fitting studio for this final season would be UFOTable or Bones.

MAPPAEN said:


Whatever anime studio would pick it up they inevitably will use cg in the later parts of the manga. If you are manga reader you will know what im talking about. So CG is invetable unless you have to wait years for giant project where everything is hand drawn.

Also can you fix your spoiler tag? "/" is put at the end of the spoiler not in the begining.

HollowInsomnia said:
I wish Mappa didn't pick up this anime. They're a great studio and I like the CGI they've done with season 4 so far, the Jaw looks great and while it did look a bit odd, the Beast had way better animation than in season 2 and 3P2. It hasn't had as good of high points as WIT has, but no where near as bad as WIT's lows. (Blue ring around Eren Titan's arm being the shockwave from his punch on Reiner's Titan in 3Pw) But besides that, Mappa was stupid to adapt this into an anime.

First of all, they have a lot to live up to. WIT managed to have amazing Sakuga constantly throughout their series, even if it was outsourced. And when the animation was lacking due to them cutting corners and such, the musical score as well as the story carried it to the point where besides all of the lacking animation in season 3P2 compared to other seasons many consider it the series' peak so far. They've also managed to (mostly) blend CGI well with the 2D drawings.

On the other hand, Mappa's CGI while better for the most part, is extremely noticeable and is why many people have been complaining about the new season looking worse. The beast titan, while might be animated better, he looks like a 3D model slapped into frame. And the music has been lacking a lot, with the first episode using only the trailer theme which is just lazy on the studio's part, as well as them putting 2 chapters into every episode. I'll wait till episode 5/6 to see if they can change my mind on the animation, and the rest of the Marley arc past that to see whether or not 2 chapters per episode will work. I think a much better fitting studio for this final season would be UFOTable or Bones.

deg said:


its popularity is around the 600 mark its doing fine popularity wise imo

if an anime breach the top 1000 mark (out of 15K total anime in MAL database) or it crosses the 100K members here on MAL i notice its popular already worldwide

im watching the remake of LOGH though and ye that one is unpopular

yaegerist-15 said:

Well ehm, you know every first ep of every new season mostly uses the trailer music as the centerpiece music for the episode...

Check previous seasons trailers if you dont believe me.


About the animation I mostly agree on complaints, I just dont care about animation as much since S3.

And wishing for studios like Bones or Ufotable means you dont know how shit AOT productions have always been. They are animators repellent.

The main reason WIT was still able to keep so many great animators since S1 is because of Araki influence, even though I think Hayashi is better suited for this particular part of the story, Hayashi does not have the influence or contacts of Araki.

MAPPAEN said:
@yaegerist-15 - "They are animators repellent."

I Never laughed inside of me that much in years from a comment. It is True though 🤣😂🤣🤔😢

MAQS said:
woh, do you think this season wont have good animators like the first 2 seasons?

HollowInsomnia said:
[spoiler I wish Mappa didn't pick up this anime. They're a great studio and I like the CGI they've done with season 4 so far, the Jaw looks great and while it did look a bit odd, the Beast had way better animation than in season 2 and 3P2. It hasn't had as good of high points as WIT has, but no where near as bad as WIT's lows. (Blue ring around Eren Titan's arm being the shockwave from his punch on Reiner's Titan in 3Pw) But besides that, Mappa was stupid to adapt this into an anime. /]

First of all, they have a lot to live up to. WIT managed to have amazing Sakuga constantly throughout their series, even if it was outsourced. And when the animation was lacking due to them cutting corners and such, the musical score as well as the story carried it to the point where besides all of the lacking animation in season 3P2 compared to other seasons many consider it the series' peak so far. They've also managed to (mostly) blend CGI well with the 2D drawings.

On the other hand, Mappa's CGI while better for the most part, is extremely noticeable and is why many people have been complaining about the new season looking worse. The beast titan, while might be animated better, he looks like a 3D model slapped into frame. And the music has been lacking a lot, with the first episode using only the trailer theme which is just lazy on the studio's part, as well as them putting 2 chapters into every episode. I'll wait till episode 5/6 to see if they can change my mind on the animation, and the rest of the Marley arc past that to see whether or not 2 chapters per episode will work. I think a much better fitting studio for this final season would be UFOTable or Bones.

HistleChif said:


Ufotable and bones style DO NOT fit aot at all lmao.

MAQS said:


Well ehm, you know every first ep of every new season mostly uses the trailer music as the centerpiece music for the episode...

Check previous seasons trailers if you dont believe me.


About the animation I mostly agree on complaints, I just dont care about animation as much since S3.

And wishing for studios like Bones or Ufotable means you dont know how shit AOT productions have always been. They are animators repellent.

The main reason WIT was still able to keep so many great animators since S1 is because of Araki influence, even though I think Hayashi is better suited for this particular part of the story, Hayashi does not have the influence or contacts of Araki.

Leniaczeq said:

Remember that Imai is the only animator who made sakuga for us in s3.

Leniaczeq said:

Remember that Imai is the only animator who made sakuga for us in s3.

HollowInsomnia said:
i think a much better fitting studio for this final season would be UFOTable or Bones.

deg said:


why not go for the best that is Kyoto Animation lol they done some anime spin-off of Full Metal Panic so they know how to draw military themed characters too anyway and action show too

NextUniverse said:
but do they have the required experience tho. I would end up watching Attack On Titan: After Story if KyoAni took it lol.

deg said:


WIT was a noob studio back when they first animate Attack on Titan so a veteran studio like KyoAni can certainly do it

tsunderek0 said:
have you guys forgotten again that no one but MAPPA wanted to pick aot up, which means bones etc didn't want it 💀

tsunderek0 said:
have you guys forgotten again that no one but MAPPA wanted to pick aot up, which means bones etc didn't want it 💀

MAQS said:


And this is purely my opinion, but I bet other studios on the level of JC staff or they themselves would have jump at the chance had MAPPA not accepted.

This comes mostly because out of all the studios that said they could do it, the producers asked WIT which they thought was the best suited, they chose MAPPA, imagine, I bet you the producers would have gone ahead with whoever was the second after MAPPA and who knows then what we could have gotten.

People think had MAPPA not chosen AOT, the producers would have delayed it, yeah right, this is the anime industry, they would have gone on with whatever was left, even if it was the one that made Berserk 2016, those fuckers...

MAPPAEN said:


Some Day when i dont have dozen of anime/manga to completely i will.

Peeti said:
TG last season is amazing. It adapted 120 chapters in 12 episodes. It's super paced according to my tastes.

Kaito10 said:


Both are amazing. But HxH has a much more linear storyline while SNK is much more complex and well thought out. HxH is more of a battle shonen though, even if some parts of it aren't very shonen like. But for me AOT is GOAT and I doubt anything will every come close to its story. I mean in the literally first scene of the Manga/Anime with Eren und the tree and Mikasa waking him up
HunterxHunter story is amazing in its own right, but much more "start to finish" based with different subplots. Characters are much easier to distinguish, and more "quirky", but really well written, with some of the best villains I have ever seen. AOT on the other hand

Kaito10 said:


If you have so many why ask for recommendations lmao

MAPPAEN said:



Join the camping my fellow aot Stan. We will bear it together! The sufferring is double when you have to wait for the manga chapters as well.

MAQS said:


And this is purely my opinion, but I bet other studios on the level of JC staff or they themselves would have jump at the chance had MAPPA not accepted.

This comes mostly because out of all the studios that said they could do it, the producers asked WIT which they thought was the best suited, they chose MAPPA, imagine, I bet you the producers would have gone ahead with whoever was the second after MAPPA and who knows then what we could have gotten.

People think had MAPPA not chosen AOT, the producers would have delayed it, yeah right, this is the anime industry, they would have gone on with whatever was left, even if it was the one that made Berserk 2016, those fuckers...

Kaito10 said:


Well...there's always Youtube fan animations...

MAQS said:


No yuki kaji, that already puts them at a disadvantage.

Also there is not a single one who uses music appropriately most of the time, I have seen like 5 user making series of videos some in English and Spanish, they tend to overdo the hype music way too much. and dont make the music overall it flow well between transitions, so it gives me whiplash.

Its funny, Soul was the first one, and IMO still the best out of all I have seen, shame he retired 3 years ago.