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Apr 21, 2020 8:14 AM
#101
| Do you update your mall at all or do you just make a new account to complain about anime? You watch something cus you're supposed to like it. Do your homework, reading reviews, tags, descriptions of the anime before watching if you think you dislike that kind of comedy. There's literally plenty of anime which don't follow the mainstream comedy. With an empty account and such a sassy topic it just sound you didn't found your niche. I recommend you watch different type of anime and ask for recommendations instead of random hating. |
Maybe watching, maybe reading, probably living |
Apr 21, 2020 8:47 AM
#102
| Are we really going to ignore his first dumbfounding claim and generalization about op and ed? BiggSmeller said: When it comes to anime, I have always disliked 2 major components of almost every anime. 1 is the opening songs and endings. I think Japan over-glorifies a lot of hard rock and metal music that doesnt flow well with the types of show they be putting out. And this isn't a new issue either, the old Baki anime has a weak ass song of this girl just singing lightly that did not get the viewer hyped for the rest of the episode. How does someone even come to that conclusion? Are you basing this on just 10 shows that you've watched? Do you even know that most songs are just j-pop, alt rock, pop rock, rock, idol groups and with some elements of other genres? Are you baiting or just ignorant? Last time I've checked "hard rock" and metal music it is rarely ever used for op and ed—even as someone who've listened to metal, screamo and post-hardcore back in my days. And when they are used it is always on a show that it's "edgy", dark, serious, violent, or even to use it as a comedic tonal shift. At least, list some actual examples of what your are talking about; otherwise, I think you're just baiting. Also, I've listened to the grappler baki op and I have two more questions: Where in the flying fuck does that sound like metal/hard rock? If anything, it sound like J-Eurobeat and that type of music is essentially hype. Are you wrongly using "over-glorified"? |
| Anyone who writes "There's no story/plot" in a review is a fucking idiot who should be sent back to re-education. |
Apr 21, 2020 1:30 PM
#103
| ops/eds are gloooooooorious. 2nd, Japanese comedy takes time to get used to, it's 60's-like gag comedy. It's a slow builder. Gintama has had many an infamous comedy episode where gags build and build to a crescendo. They don't go for one-off cheapees, they go for huge knots in your gut. You're supposed to not laugh at first, just figure everything is fine, and then eventually a customer or individual will get so annoying that you can't stop laughing. It's collectivist-humor. It's more about being frustrated or embarrassed, very English. Slow-builders age well, too. Something like Fawlty Towers or UK The Office is more akin to Japanese humour. They tell the same old jokes all the time and there's a warm sense of nostalgia there. They sort of build the same thing up all the time so everybody can identify it. Most of it's to do with just asking things that don't figure into your daily, presumed calculations. Whereas Jim Carey movies have aged to the point where their humour kind of becomes subjective. Also American humour has completely fallen off in the past 20 years. Our humour was based off being anti-PC so obviously that's gone now. |
Apr 21, 2020 2:13 PM
#104
| Your expectation for anime industries to appeal to your western tastes will probably ruin a lot of animes for you. I assume you are fairly new to anime and looking at your bio where you believe western rappers are the reason anime is successful in the west is laughable. Nobody is forcing you to watch anime with comedy and your best bet is to cherry pick shows that have limited to no comedy. |
Apr 21, 2020 3:10 PM
#105
ShinShi_roku said: Are we really going to ignore his first dumbfounding claim and generalization about op and ed? BiggSmeller said: When it comes to anime, I have always disliked 2 major components of almost every anime. 1 is the opening songs and endings. I think Japan over-glorifies a lot of hard rock and metal music that doesnt flow well with the types of show they be putting out. And this isn't a new issue either, the old Baki anime has a weak ass song of this girl just singing lightly that did not get the viewer hyped for the rest of the episode. How does someone even come to that conclusion? Are you basing this on just 10 shows that you've watched? Do you even know that most songs are just j-pop, alt rock, pop rock, rock, idol groups and with some elements of other genres? Are you baiting or just ignorant? Last time I've checked "hard rock" and metal music it is rarely ever used for op and ed—even as someone who've listened to metal, screamo and post-hardcore back in my days. And when they are used it is always on a show that it's "edgy", dark, serious, violent, or even to use it as a comedic tonal shift. At least, list some actual examples of what your are talking about; otherwise, I think you're just baiting. Also, I've listened to the grappler baki op and I have two more questions: Where in the flying fuck does that sound like metal/hard rock? If anything, it sound like J-Eurobeat and that type of music is essentially hype. Are you wrongly using "over-glorified"? yeah thats what I mean J-pop sounds very rocky. Im not being too specific and u just listed sub genres of rock my guy. Lmao |
Apr 21, 2020 3:13 PM
#106
| Great Teacher Onizuka is the peak of anime comedy, forget trash moe shows that comes after it. |
Apr 21, 2020 3:17 PM
#107
TrapTiki said: Your expectation for anime industries to appeal to your western tastes will probably ruin a lot of animes for you. I assume you are fairly new to anime and looking at your bio where you believe western rappers are the reason anime is successful in the west is laughable. Nobody is forcing you to watch anime with comedy and your best bet is to cherry pick shows that have limited to no comedy. Firstly, making the positive claim youd have to explain how youre so sure that ANY comedy that isnt "anime comedy" Must be western comedy. Ive picked up on the nuances of PLENTY of foreign comedic media piece. An example is Amelie which I recently watched on Netflix its a french comedy movie. Hell , even some of the Terrace House episodes I watched (Japanese reality tv show) were funny. You know whats not funny? Constant chibi faces, characters looking down with a sweatdrop dripping down their hair to symbolize anger and poorly written scenes of character cluelessness when the character has no reason to be confused. THis is something most anime Ive seen are guilty of (and Ive seen a lot but not all obviously ). Idk how in 2020 people are still visiting peoples MAL profile to gauge the anime theyve seen, no one updates that shit. Also... YES IT IS. Anime was a niche hobby , a hidden topic you were ashamed to talk about. I know this, Ive grown up and seen this happen. Go on Youtube and see how Dragonball influenced hip-hop theres entire journalistic reviews on this. Naruto and other shows are also glorified a lot. This subculture of hip-hop and hypebeast culture NORMALIZED anime and the old anime fans kept watching but this time they could be less secretive about it. COMPLETELY unrelated to the topic but youre still wrong. |
Apr 21, 2020 3:19 PM
#108
ShinShi_roku said: Are we really going to ignore his first dumbfounding claim and generalization about op and ed? BiggSmeller said: When it comes to anime, I have always disliked 2 major components of almost every anime. 1 is the opening songs and endings. I think Japan over-glorifies a lot of hard rock and metal music that doesnt flow well with the types of show they be putting out. And this isn't a new issue either, the old Baki anime has a weak ass song of this girl just singing lightly that did not get the viewer hyped for the rest of the episode. How does someone even come to that conclusion? Are you basing this on just 10 shows that you've watched? Do you even know that most songs are just j-pop, alt rock, pop rock, rock, idol groups and with some elements of other genres? Are you baiting or just ignorant? Last time I've checked "hard rock" and metal music it is rarely ever used for op and ed—even as someone who've listened to metal, screamo and post-hardcore back in my days. And when they are used it is always on a show that it's "edgy", dark, serious, violent, or even to use it as a comedic tonal shift. At least, list some actual examples of what your are talking about; otherwise, I think you're just baiting. Also, I've listened to the grappler baki op and I have two more questions: Where in the flying fuck does that sound like metal/hard rock? If anything, it sound like J-Eurobeat and that type of music is essentially hype. Are you wrongly using "over-glorified"? Please refrain from coming at me with strong language when you cant even read my post properly. I was demonstrating how some anime have OP's that dont even go with the theme/content of the show. I said Bakis OP was a weak ass girl singing, not hard rock. Getchya brains up |
Apr 21, 2020 3:22 PM
#109
MSAtlos said: You can't translate comedy, that why comedy tends to mostly visual overreactions because people will get that regardless of language. Understandable, its just dubious that the loss in translation is so significant. |
Apr 21, 2020 3:23 PM
#110
Dameo said: All Comedy in anime does not suck. Watch more anime. What you are saying is like watching the Big Bang Theory, Two and a Half Men, Friends, and concluding that all sitcoms suck. And to give you a great comedy anime, watch Cromartie Highschool, Mitsudomoe, Detroit Metal City and see for yourself! Well sitcoms revolve around dialogue-based humor. I explained what specficially bothers me about most comedy in anime. |
Apr 21, 2020 3:25 PM
#111
| tldr Watch Golden Boy, Ghost Stories english dub (if you're old enough to get the pop culture references), and Cromartie High School |
Apr 21, 2020 3:27 PM
#112
Love_and_Peace said: BiggSmeller said: When it comes to anime, I have always disliked 2 major components of almost every anime. 1 is the opening songs and endings. I think Japan over-glorifies a lot of hard rock and metal music that doesnt flow well with the types of show they be putting out. And this isn't a new issue either, the old Baki anime has a weak ass song of this girl just singing lightly that did not get the viewer hyped for the rest of the episode. The other major thing I've just never understood about anime is comedy. I have never laughed hard at any jokes an anime has tried to throw my way. Heres what comedy in anime can be boiled down into: Characters making blank chibi faces in confusion or when another characters says something too complicated and they just stare at the screen with a blank face like "uhhhhhhh?" which is supposed to be funny I guess. Male characters constantly asking female characters for provocative favors knowing damn well they're about to get hit somehow and the female character just smacks the male character away like "Dont think about it , you hentai!" Like there is no subtlety in anime comedy or even funny explicit humor. Its the same plays on males creeping on females and failing or people just making weird faces. I have never seen any funny dialogue, or funny screenplay, nothing. There's some anime like Ishuzoku Reviewers that has some funny 3rd person commentary but its funny in the sense that its raunchy and unordinary rather than LAUGH OUT LOUD type of funny. I am talking more about the Laugh out Loud type of humor. Idk, it just seems like Japan is just not very good with this or humor is subjective and I am on some weird side of the spectrum. I live in America and every person I tell them to watch an anime doesnt find the typically "supposed to be funny" scenes funny either. So idk what the deal is here and why its so hard to just make some casual, funny scenes like Western series. Most of my favorite anime series are all serious shows so yeah, comedy isnt really the main factor. You talked about how anime isn't funny, but you haven't mentioned anything that you do find funny. I have. Scroll through my replies. None of its anime though |
Apr 21, 2020 3:27 PM
#113
| It's repetitive I mean you can only laugh at the same joke so many times before it becomes old. |
Apr 21, 2020 3:29 PM
#114
TolkienFan365 said: BiggSmeller said: Pullman said: sounds like somebody is just watching shitty ecchi harems and then wondering why all the comedy is just about juvenile 'perversion' bits. But also some people just don't like comedy, they don't like to laugh and prefer tension and serious stuff. Not everyone has a great sense of humour, for some people it's very limited and they can only laugh about very specific types of comedy. You sound like that kind of person. No ned to force it when it's not for you. I'm just thankful that I was blessed with a great sense of humour that lets me appreciate almost every type of comedy if done well enough. I mean I also have some comedy anime I don't find funny, like Prison School and Pop Team Epic and I've always avoided harems because I don't like their comedy or anything else they do. But for the most part anime comedy can make me laugh just as much, if not more, than western comedy. Boke-Tsukkomi is great, I dig referential humour, I dig physical comedy with facial expressions and deformed designs, I love running gags, I love absurd comedy, I love wordplays, I love gap comedy, I love comedic exaggerations - and anime has plenty of all of that, and then some. So yeah, if you don't like any of the comedy anime can offer, you probably don't have a very good sense of humour or didn't look very much, because anime comedy encompasses a ton of different types of comedy, not just shitty jokes about 'pervert' MCs. There are some forms of comedy that I really miss in anime compared to western TV tho. Mainly anything related to social commentary and just making fun of real life issues, people, topics, events etc... Anime is a bit too scared of that for the most part because japanese TV censorship is a bitch. Gintama sometimes tried but often got into more trouble than they bargained for, and something like Shimoneta manages to exist as well as Zetsubou Sensei, but for the most part anime comedy is just completely isolated from reality and I guess that can make it hard to get into. It's often situational comedy, physical comedy or just self-referential stuff and running gags that takes a relatively long introduction phase to really pull off (like Gintama or Rumiko Takahashi stuff). That can probably make it hard to get into when you're used to western animated comedy which makes good use of the viewers background knowledge, being instantly relatable to anyone who lives in a western society. Meanwhile anime comedy relies much less on knowledge about irl society and much more on knowledge of otaku culture so I would guess that even non-otaku japanese people have a harder time getting into anime comedy, since anime in general is targeted at a niche while western animated comedy is usually targeted at the mainstream. At least that goes for the anime comedies we get to see, the few mainstream ones they have in Japan, like Doraemon or Sazae-san or Shin-chan are probably more comparable to western animated comedy in terms of being relatable to the average person who lives in that country. But anime is still a niche in Japan for the most part, so what you get is niche comedy rather than accessible, mainstream type of comedy which you get in shows like The Simpsons or American Dad or any sitcom. Every mainstream shounen has a perverted character that fawns over a females Boobs so ur just wrong. Also the entire post WAS THE POINT that I dont see a large variety of comedic tactics used in anime. So u saying it encompasses doesnt make it true, most anime do rely on the ecchi shit and the chibi faces or nose bleeds and shit. Id like to see an anime where the entire show is cynical about something its parodying or maybe sarcasm or something. And anime is mainstream now at least in America, ur no longer clowned for liking this shit since so many popular figures have normalized it. I mean Kaguya literally has jokes about alimony in it's first episode of S2 that are pretty bitter and cynical. Mob Psycho makes fun of a well known cult (though you would have to know what it's parodying to find it funny). As for making bitter takes/satire/parody honestly that's harder when looking at international media. Some stuff can be universally applied but other jokes are more relevant if you are immersed in the culture and society. As pointed out with MP 100. Comedy in anime can be funny I would it usually is a miss but at the same time there are quite a few actually funny moments in non comedy anime or good comedy anime out there. I don't really have a problem with it granted I wish we got more comedic series like MP 100 or Kaguya in quality. As for any mainstream action shonen The Promised Neverland and Kimestu no Yaiba just came out last year (granted sure Zenitsu wants to marry Nezuko but he isn't like some pervert). Haikyuu is also a mainstream shonen which again has characters who want to look cool for the ladies but again they aren't perverts. Spy x Family was probably the biggest shonen manga of last year and doesn't have any character like that either nor any typical ecchi humour despite it being a comedy. So that was a massive overgeneralization. Well Promised Neverland isnt a candidate for comedy either, I was saying shounen that have comedic reflief/comedic moments tend to have all thosse things to some degree. Havent watched Kaguya sama, and remember its not just all female related. Its just the general trope of "laugh at this clueless character making blank faces" or "heres one character thats the serious archetype and heres a silly character who will draw extreme reactions out the serious one" type shit. |
Apr 21, 2020 3:30 PM
#115
Preachee said: BiggSmeller said: Preachee said: BiggSmeller said: Preachee said: BiggSmeller said: Preachee said: BiggSmeller said: Preachee said: BiggSmeller said: Preachee said: ok plebeian. the lack of knowledge and understanding takes away all rights of making a conclusion from you. the word 'almost' in your comment makes absolutely no fucking sense. what you said lines up entirely with like 20 out of 310 shows I've watched. and to begin with this rant has made no valid arguments other than you being displeased by shit you find as shit. What are you bringing forward here, a discussion or a disclosure to your ignorance? A room count of how many people in the same boat as me and dont find shit funny. Simple, you offended buffoon. Just wanna see if its "just me" but from scrolling this thread, its obviously not. no i don't give a shit if it's "just you". what you've given so far is nonexistent arguments that i find baffled if anyone could concur to such bullshit. not only is this a rant that produces no worthwhile discussions, but what you said so far is a small fraction of what 'anime comedy' actually is. your conclusion makes no fucking sense. Why would I need an argument if Im just trying to gauge how many people are in the same boat as me? What even is an argument, surely an assertion isnt an argument. A logical argument is a set of Premises and a conclusion where the premises have truth value. So literally anything u say I can deflect off as "not an argument" because its using natural language. Invoking argumentation in this post is just silly. im not using arguments because as you said, this post is not meant to invoke discussions. it's a worthless rant that you should know before that a lot would agree on. it literally puts nothing forward. shitpost is better because at least it's not like you're spewing something you're inexperienced about. well if you think so. you can go out of your way to rant just about anything and you can still justify yourself with 'because it's not supposed to invoke discussions'. it holds no meaning in the end anyway, while just making threads less approachable. It is meant to invoke discussion , not arguments. U said I dont have an argument. Argument as in not a conflict of opinion but a well-solidified logically drawn position. u look stupid rn. COnflating discussions with arguments like youd use in a debate competition gtfo here with your offended sissy bullshit. I dont need to come in with a fucking argument. Like u would in a debate for example: P1: Comedy relates to brain states P2: Anime as a medium does not stimulate my brain state C: Anime as a medium does not stimulate me comedically. so wtf do u expect from me demanding "valid arguments". If u dont agree with me just say so , leave some anime youd reccomend that exemplifies comedy in anime and leave . Im just saying how I feel and essentially asking "who else?" . U gotta do the most out of this huh lmao this is some literal ignorant shit. the matter of me disagreeing with you on your views on comedy for now is irrelevant. i disagree with your approach specifically. i gotta do the most out of this because i don't wanna see this already shitty forum sites to be filled with even more shitty threads such as this one. again, worthless rants that you should've known the answer of "how many people on the same boat as you" before. if you want discussions then yes, construct some arguments and then both parties can utilize some critical thinking in debating. you have no arguments here, so how can people justify themselves if they agree or disagree with you? u dont need arguments to have a discussion. They can justify themselves as they have been in the replies to this thread. Read above^, see how no one else is demanding a formal godamn argument? ok do as you please. rants like these are still goddamn annoying. no substance and nothing new or interesting is presented. subjectivity makes it even a whole lot more obvious. i see people discussing above gave arguments. the difference here is that you have none so it's almost impossible to discuss this matter with you properly. Yeah you might dispute by saying"'oh but people still discussing on my thread". If a discussion about art comes down to solely agreements, without arguments whatsoever, then it's worthless. Moreover your ranting conclusion of how "almost every anime" has shit comedy bugs me. I figure you must have watched at least 500 anime of different genres and different eras to be able to say that. yeah ok In Conclusion: someones mad hmm... ok. how predictable from a dunce whose folly tells him not to use argumentation. i guess i can't expect much from someone who thinks arguments are unnecessary. keep your ignorance to yourself, prithee halt from spreading it amongst threads to avoid this parasitically baseless act. how pathetic. Imagine asking this guy "Hey do you like sandwiches too? cuz I dont." and he goes " IM SORRY WAS THERE AN ARGUMENT IN THAT!!???". |
Apr 21, 2020 3:31 PM
#116
Anime doesnt suck cuz of it, anime comedy and anime songs suck cuz of it. Pretty straightforward |
Apr 21, 2020 3:31 PM
#117
| I mean, if anime comedy isn't your thing, you obviously don't watch anime for the comedy. I, personally am not a fan of screaming power battles that are present in a lot of shounen. My response to this is to...not watch anime with screaming power battles, and if they are there, to try to ignore the absurdity of them and enjoy them as much as I can. I mean, I am a fan of anime comedy, but if you aren't, the only things you can do are ignore it or try to enjoy it. If you can't do that, may, be anime just isn't your thing. Not trying to be an ass, but if you don't like one of the most prominent things in all of anime, the comedy, maybe anime just isn't for you. |
Apr 21, 2020 3:33 PM
#118
FBIOFANIME said: so you're just out here spitting facts that comedy in anime is bad. ok. nice opinion. well here's mine. I don't mind comedy to a certain extent. If I watch a series show, I'd expect seriousness and if I watch a comedy show I'd expect a good comedy. Every show varies, and some even has a mix between the two. Since there are people who enjoy comedy and hate seriousness, people who enjoy seriousness and hate comedy, and people who enjoy both or hate both are present. Conflicts and arguments happen. Which of course is inevitable since that's how life works This is my opinion when it comes to a serious show with comedy or a comedy show with seriousness - Sometimes its good. Sometimes its bad. Let's put something, for instance, Angel Beats as an example. Angel Beats is a very popular show, and it exploits both comedy and seriousness. The comedy could be appealing to some fans, whilst on the other hand it can be argued that the comedy isn't even funny and ruins the show. How about the seriousness? Let's see. The seriousness does really get to a lot of fans according to the rating, however, some says otherwise. So what about me? Well, I think that Angel Beats was a show with a nice touch. It's not perfect, not the best, however despite the fact that I did not cry from the series. It was satisfactory at minimum since I enjoyed the conversion of comedy and seriousness back and forth. Any show can have comedy and/or seriousness and be good. I don't think one of these two factors can affect the show overall and make it "bad". It's more about how good the show executes and exploits them. And depending on the popularity and rating of the show, that determines how successful they did with the show generally. alright too lazy to write now fuck bye Its not about the comedy to seriousness ratio, Im analyzing the comedy itself and what it is comprised of. |
Apr 21, 2020 3:34 PM
#119
Damuzen said: I noticed there is something that clearly lacks in anime comedies in general : dark humor It's a genre I absolutely love but I only saw one anime that uses it (Dorohedoro), so that's a bit sad This is true as well. I do think Dorohedoro was funny at times though , it is an exception. Caimans stupidity and blank faces were executed better than usual but still werent hitting. Mainly SHin and Nois ironically violent escapades and relationship and En's personality. |
Apr 21, 2020 3:37 PM
#120
Xstasy said: It's repetitive I mean you can only laugh at the same joke so many times before it becomes old. Exactly, and the slight variations from show to show dont make a difference since it all comes down to "LAUGH AT THIS CHARACTERS EXTREME EXPRESSION!!!" or the other things ive mentioned. Very limited amount of comedic tactics used. |
Apr 21, 2020 3:38 PM
#121
Takuto_Shindou said: Great Teacher Onizuka is the peak of anime comedy, forget trash moe shows that comes after it. Heard about it. Heard its more about coming of age and escaping mid life crisis and shit more than comedy will check it out, I like older anime. |
Apr 21, 2020 3:39 PM
#122
OGBsweets said: tldr Watch Golden Boy, Ghost Stories english dub (if you're old enough to get the pop culture references), and Cromartie High School What in the....... I have never heard of any of these ever. First time reading any of those names. |
Apr 21, 2020 6:09 PM
#123
| After posting on the thread about users not listing everything they've seen, somehow I guessed your list would be empty. Bringing up IR does say a lot about where you've been looking for good comedy. At least I'd thought you'd mention why some of the typical comedy recs "suck". |
Apr 21, 2020 7:28 PM
#124
| To be quite frank here, I've personally never LAUGHED OUT LOUD at any comedy anime ..However, there are a few animes and manga in the comedy genre which will give you a little chuckle or smile. Still, what might be humorous to one person , may not be the same for another as comedy is VERY subjective. |
Apr 21, 2020 10:30 PM
#125
BatoKusanagi said: After posting on the thread about users not listing everything they've seen, somehow I guessed your list would be empty. Bringing up IR does say a lot about where you've been looking for good comedy. At least I'd thought you'd mention why some of the typical comedy recs "suck". I dont know what IR is and I did mention why they suck. They are predictable, identical to each other instance of comedy and just dont ever breach a higher echelon of humor other than "look at this funny face" or "look at this nosebleed" or "look at this silly character" or "wow hes chasing after him now" |
Apr 21, 2020 10:31 PM
#126
Shimilewchan said: To be quite frank here, I've personally never LAUGHED OUT LOUD at any comedy anime ..However, there are a few animes and manga in the comedy genre which will give you a little chuckle or smile. Still, what might be humorous to one person , may not be the same for another as comedy is VERY subjective. Right and this is the very nature of anime comedy Im addressing, theres so many people Ive realized including people from my real life that just dont have the knack for anime humor |
Apr 21, 2020 10:34 PM
#127
| No Anime has ever made me laugh out loud cry. However there have been plenty of Comedy Anime that made me chuckle or laugh a bit. |
Apr 21, 2020 11:00 PM
#128
| Dude are you fucking retarded or what? You know that comedy is subjective and everybody views it differently.I do agree that The Chibi shit is annoying but there are many good comedy anime. Tldr: you haven't watched good comedy anime. |
Apr 21, 2020 11:05 PM
#129
| I agree with you lol, I don't get how anyone laughs on japanese dad jokes/puns |
Apr 21, 2020 11:06 PM
#130
BiggSmeller said: TolkienFan365 said: BiggSmeller said: Pullman said: sounds like somebody is just watching shitty ecchi harems and then wondering why all the comedy is just about juvenile 'perversion' bits. But also some people just don't like comedy, they don't like to laugh and prefer tension and serious stuff. Not everyone has a great sense of humour, for some people it's very limited and they can only laugh about very specific types of comedy. You sound like that kind of person. No ned to force it when it's not for you. I'm just thankful that I was blessed with a great sense of humour that lets me appreciate almost every type of comedy if done well enough. I mean I also have some comedy anime I don't find funny, like Prison School and Pop Team Epic and I've always avoided harems because I don't like their comedy or anything else they do. But for the most part anime comedy can make me laugh just as much, if not more, than western comedy. Boke-Tsukkomi is great, I dig referential humour, I dig physical comedy with facial expressions and deformed designs, I love running gags, I love absurd comedy, I love wordplays, I love gap comedy, I love comedic exaggerations - and anime has plenty of all of that, and then some. So yeah, if you don't like any of the comedy anime can offer, you probably don't have a very good sense of humour or didn't look very much, because anime comedy encompasses a ton of different types of comedy, not just shitty jokes about 'pervert' MCs. There are some forms of comedy that I really miss in anime compared to western TV tho. Mainly anything related to social commentary and just making fun of real life issues, people, topics, events etc... Anime is a bit too scared of that for the most part because japanese TV censorship is a bitch. Gintama sometimes tried but often got into more trouble than they bargained for, and something like Shimoneta manages to exist as well as Zetsubou Sensei, but for the most part anime comedy is just completely isolated from reality and I guess that can make it hard to get into. It's often situational comedy, physical comedy or just self-referential stuff and running gags that takes a relatively long introduction phase to really pull off (like Gintama or Rumiko Takahashi stuff). That can probably make it hard to get into when you're used to western animated comedy which makes good use of the viewers background knowledge, being instantly relatable to anyone who lives in a western society. Meanwhile anime comedy relies much less on knowledge about irl society and much more on knowledge of otaku culture so I would guess that even non-otaku japanese people have a harder time getting into anime comedy, since anime in general is targeted at a niche while western animated comedy is usually targeted at the mainstream. At least that goes for the anime comedies we get to see, the few mainstream ones they have in Japan, like Doraemon or Sazae-san or Shin-chan are probably more comparable to western animated comedy in terms of being relatable to the average person who lives in that country. But anime is still a niche in Japan for the most part, so what you get is niche comedy rather than accessible, mainstream type of comedy which you get in shows like The Simpsons or American Dad or any sitcom. Every mainstream shounen has a perverted character that fawns over a females Boobs so ur just wrong. Also the entire post WAS THE POINT that I dont see a large variety of comedic tactics used in anime. So u saying it encompasses doesnt make it true, most anime do rely on the ecchi shit and the chibi faces or nose bleeds and shit. Id like to see an anime where the entire show is cynical about something its parodying or maybe sarcasm or something. And anime is mainstream now at least in America, ur no longer clowned for liking this shit since so many popular figures have normalized it. I mean Kaguya literally has jokes about alimony in it's first episode of S2 that are pretty bitter and cynical. Mob Psycho makes fun of a well known cult (though you would have to know what it's parodying to find it funny). As for making bitter takes/satire/parody honestly that's harder when looking at international media. Some stuff can be universally applied but other jokes are more relevant if you are immersed in the culture and society. As pointed out with MP 100. Comedy in anime can be funny I would it usually is a miss but at the same time there are quite a few actually funny moments in non comedy anime or good comedy anime out there. I don't really have a problem with it granted I wish we got more comedic series like MP 100 or Kaguya in quality. As for any mainstream action shonen The Promised Neverland and Kimestu no Yaiba just came out last year (granted sure Zenitsu wants to marry Nezuko but he isn't like some pervert). Haikyuu is also a mainstream shonen which again has characters who want to look cool for the ladies but again they aren't perverts. Spy x Family was probably the biggest shonen manga of last year and doesn't have any character like that either nor any typical ecchi humour despite it being a comedy. So that was a massive overgeneralization. Well Promised Neverland isnt a candidate for comedy either, I was saying shounen that have comedic reflief/comedic moments tend to have all thosse things to some degree. Havent watched Kaguya sama, and remember its not just all female related. Its just the general trope of "laugh at this clueless character making blank faces" or "heres one character thats the serious archetype and heres a silly character who will draw extreme reactions out the serious one" type shit. Well that's fair and Kaguya has that but I took that as action/adventure or even shonen in general always have fanservice. Barakamon though is a comedy anime that doesn't have fanservice but it does have that slapstick. Granted those things alone aren't bad. Sure Kaguya does have a big focus on exaggeration including the reactions but I think it is done well there. Though while there are anime/manga that get me to laugh I will agree it's not my go to medium. Rather watch British comedy classics like Blackadder or Monty Python if I wanted that. |
Apr 21, 2020 11:21 PM
#131
BiggSmeller said: When it comes to anime, I have always disliked 2 major components of almost every anime. 1 is the opening songs and endings. I think Japan over-glorifies a lot of hard rock and metal music that doesnt flow well with the types of show they be putting out. And this isn't a new issue either, the old Baki anime has a weak ass song of this girl just singing lightly that did not get the viewer hyped for the rest of the episode. The other major thing I've just never understood about anime is comedy. I have never laughed hard at any jokes an anime has tried to throw my way. Heres what comedy in anime can be boiled down into: Characters making blank chibi faces in confusion or when another characters says something too complicated and they just stare at the screen with a blank face like "uhhhhhhh?" which is supposed to be funny I guess. Male characters constantly asking female characters for provocative favors knowing damn well they're about to get hit somehow and the female character just smacks the male character away like "Dont think about it , you hentai!" Like there is no subtlety in anime comedy or even funny explicit humor. Its the same plays on males creeping on females and failing or people just making weird faces. I have never seen any funny dialogue, or funny screenplay, nothing. There's some anime like Ishuzoku Reviewers that has some funny 3rd person commentary but its funny in the sense that its raunchy and unordinary rather than LAUGH OUT LOUD type of funny. I am talking more about the Laugh out Loud type of humor. Idk, it just seems like Japan is just not very good with this or humor is subjective and I am on some weird side of the spectrum. I live in America and every person I tell them to watch an anime doesnt find the typically "supposed to be funny" scenes funny either. So idk what the deal is here and why its so hard to just make some casual, funny scenes like Western series. Most of my favorite anime series are all serious shows so yeah, comedy isnt really the main factor. - It took a lengthy 2026 character essay (I used a character count app btw) before you fessed up to say comedy in anime as a whole isn't really your thing. Well how about you just stick with what entertains you the most and refrain from ragging on other people's preferred genre by saying it "sucks" when in reality you already have a predisposed biased opinion against it. To each his own. - You also mentioned the fact you disliked the OP and ED music glorifying "hard rock" and "metal" well you haven't seen enough anime to say it's "almost everytime" then. A lot of people here who've seen a wide variety of anime (me included) say that your broad statement about the OP & ED songs in anime are flat out coming from ignorance if not stupid. |
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Apr 21, 2020 11:25 PM
#132
| Watch Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou |
『ᴅᴇᴍᴏɴ-ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴊᴜᴅɢᴇ ᴏꜰ ꜰɪʀᴇ』 Then her jaw slackened as she muttered out. [I... am the bi◼️?] ☽ † ☾ - ᴅᴇʟɪᴠᴇʀɪᴇꜱ- ꜱɪɢ ᴍᴀᴅᴇ ʙʏ ʜᴜᴍᴀɴᴛᴡɪɢ |
Apr 22, 2020 12:53 AM
#133
Apr 22, 2020 1:03 AM
#134
| well just ask yourself why a comedy movie rarely get realese outside its home country. |
Apr 22, 2020 1:11 AM
#135
| Well, humour and whether you laugh at something is entirely dependent on your own sense of it. Asobi Asobase for example, I found hilarious, but Prison School, while good, only got an occasional grin out of me. When you say "Like there is no subtlety in anime comedy or even funny explicit humor." that just tells me you haven't watched enough, because both of those things you think are non-existent do in fact exist, and in spades. Off the top of my head, Nichijou is an example of an anime that has both, some scenes are laced with dry situational humour and others are just in your face laughs. |
Apr 22, 2020 1:17 AM
#136
BiggSmeller said: I don't know what IR is and I did mention why they suck. They are predictable, identical to each other instance of comedy and just dont ever breach a higher echelon of humor other than "look at this funny face" or "look at this nosebleed" or "look at this silly character" or "wow hes chasing after him now" IR = Ishizoku Reviewers? You mentioned it lol You didn't say any of that in your opening post and could elaborate on what you mean by "echelons of humor". Also, I meant that you didn't really say anything (in your opening post) about some of the typical comedy recs like, say, Nichijou or Grand Blue, or the more surreal stuff like Excel Saga and Pop Team Epic. You just mentioned IR (something that isn't exactly top comedy by most people's standards) and went into generalities that don't really describe the actual "top" comedies. |
Apr 22, 2020 1:28 AM
#137
| I feel that anime have that rare quality of humor which cannot be presented in other media.Although it really depends on you and what you like,anime has some pretty good comedy moments which utilizes the maximum possible extent of what animation can do. Who hates anime OPs? |
Apr 22, 2020 1:44 AM
#138
BiggSmeller said: yeah thats what I mean J-pop sounds very rocky. Im not being too specific and u just listed sub genres of rock my guy. Lmao "yhea bro, Im not being specific but let me generalize j-pop with two specific genres of music." Then maybe don't use two specific genres that are, as I've said, rarely ever used in op and eds; and wouldn't be even considered as j-pop. Ayylmao But even if we rephrase the point as that, however, your example still contradicted your point about being "very rocky"; because Grappler Baki op was a form of japanese Eurobeat not rock. BiggSmeller said: Please refrain from coming at me with strong language when you cant even read my post properly. I was demonstrating how some anime have OP's that dont even go with the theme/content of the show. I said Bakis OP was a weak ass girl singing, not hard rock. Getchya brains up Dunno how my post had strong language but I guess you've just saw the word "fuck" and didn't bother to read. Even then I was genuinely confused at what you even meant when I wrote that. But also, that wasn't even your main point. Your main point was this: "op and ed over-glorified hard rock and meta music that doesn't flow well with the content" not "There are op and ed music that don't even go with the content/atmosphere/etc. of a show" It's not my job to translate your badly written and thought out points. That's failure on your part. If you wanted to make that point then yhea I think some may not fit with a show. For Example: I think that the Dororo 1st op does not fit at all. Its english vocals are kinda detrimental to the historical fantasy setting the show has and the mumble rap further worsened it. Even thought it has some good sections. I guess they were trying to go for a combination of modern and traditional japanese music. I just think it didn't fits the show that heavily criticized the samurais. Also, let me repeat for the last time, I've never said that Bakis op was hard rock. I said that it was Eurobeat. |
| Anyone who writes "There's no story/plot" in a review is a fucking idiot who should be sent back to re-education. |
Apr 22, 2020 1:50 AM
#139
| I think humor is subjective.. At earlier time when i just started watching anime regularly, i also didn't like or enjoy comedy anime much because i 90% didn't get the joke. But lately, as i learn Japanese culture, i also start to enjoy comedy in anime so much. And even starting to look for it. Although i still can't get the jokes in pop team epic XD |
I'm starting to get embarrassed by my own forum signature line.. XD |
Apr 22, 2020 10:11 AM
#140
| to me comedy is like watching some hentai :) |
| :3 |
Apr 22, 2020 10:22 AM
#141
| Short answer to this is that Japanese people see comedy as funny reactions to situations rather than use of witty words and punchline in jokes. |
Anime was it's best 20000 years ago, when cavemen drew art with real depth. Modern anime is all garbage. I miss great old days of anime. |
Apr 23, 2020 2:01 PM
#142
Zeroflamez said: No Anime has ever made me laugh out loud cry. However there have been plenty of Comedy Anime that made me chuckle or laugh a bit. This is me. Ive chuckled but as the main post says, Ive never like actually laughed laughed. Like LAUGHED LAUGHED, forget about dying from laughter. |
Apr 23, 2020 2:05 PM
#143
Janethan23 said: BiggSmeller said: When it comes to anime, I have always disliked 2 major components of almost every anime. 1 is the opening songs and endings. I think Japan over-glorifies a lot of hard rock and metal music that doesnt flow well with the types of show they be putting out. And this isn't a new issue either, the old Baki anime has a weak ass song of this girl just singing lightly that did not get the viewer hyped for the rest of the episode. The other major thing I've just never understood about anime is comedy. I have never laughed hard at any jokes an anime has tried to throw my way. Heres what comedy in anime can be boiled down into: Characters making blank chibi faces in confusion or when another characters says something too complicated and they just stare at the screen with a blank face like "uhhhhhhh?" which is supposed to be funny I guess. Male characters constantly asking female characters for provocative favors knowing damn well they're about to get hit somehow and the female character just smacks the male character away like "Dont think about it , you hentai!" Like there is no subtlety in anime comedy or even funny explicit humor. Its the same plays on males creeping on females and failing or people just making weird faces. I have never seen any funny dialogue, or funny screenplay, nothing. There's some anime like Ishuzoku Reviewers that has some funny 3rd person commentary but its funny in the sense that its raunchy and unordinary rather than LAUGH OUT LOUD type of funny. I am talking more about the Laugh out Loud type of humor. Idk, it just seems like Japan is just not very good with this or humor is subjective and I am on some weird side of the spectrum. I live in America and every person I tell them to watch an anime doesnt find the typically "supposed to be funny" scenes funny either. So idk what the deal is here and why its so hard to just make some casual, funny scenes like Western series. Most of my favorite anime series are all serious shows so yeah, comedy isnt really the main factor. - It took a lengthy 2026 character essay (I used a character count app btw) before you fessed up to say comedy in anime as a whole isn't really your thing. Well how about you just stick with what entertains you the most and refrain from ragging on other people's preferred genre by saying it "sucks" when in reality you already have a predisposed biased opinion against it. To each his own. - You also mentioned the fact you disliked the OP and ED music glorifying "hard rock" and "metal" well you haven't seen enough anime to say it's "almost everytime" then. A lot of people here who've seen a wide variety of anime (me included) say that your broad statement about the OP & ED songs in anime are flat out coming from ignorance if not stupid. Of course comedy in anime isnt my thing. the entire point is to explain why I feel that way and who else feels the same lmao. You really think you did something saying that and getting a character count on my post? And I would actually argue most Op / ED is just rock, Jpop or alternative singing/rock. They all sound alike, use the same sounds etc. |
Apr 23, 2020 2:07 PM
#144
Janethan23 said: BiggSmeller said: When it comes to anime, I have always disliked 2 major components of almost every anime. 1 is the opening songs and endings. I think Japan over-glorifies a lot of hard rock and metal music that doesnt flow well with the types of show they be putting out. And this isn't a new issue either, the old Baki anime has a weak ass song of this girl just singing lightly that did not get the viewer hyped for the rest of the episode. The other major thing I've just never understood about anime is comedy. I have never laughed hard at any jokes an anime has tried to throw my way. Heres what comedy in anime can be boiled down into: Characters making blank chibi faces in confusion or when another characters says something too complicated and they just stare at the screen with a blank face like "uhhhhhhh?" which is supposed to be funny I guess. Male characters constantly asking female characters for provocative favors knowing damn well they're about to get hit somehow and the female character just smacks the male character away like "Dont think about it , you hentai!" Like there is no subtlety in anime comedy or even funny explicit humor. Its the same plays on males creeping on females and failing or people just making weird faces. I have never seen any funny dialogue, or funny screenplay, nothing. There's some anime like Ishuzoku Reviewers that has some funny 3rd person commentary but its funny in the sense that its raunchy and unordinary rather than LAUGH OUT LOUD type of funny. I am talking more about the Laugh out Loud type of humor. Idk, it just seems like Japan is just not very good with this or humor is subjective and I am on some weird side of the spectrum. I live in America and every person I tell them to watch an anime doesnt find the typically "supposed to be funny" scenes funny either. So idk what the deal is here and why its so hard to just make some casual, funny scenes like Western series. Most of my favorite anime series are all serious shows so yeah, comedy isnt really the main factor. - It took a lengthy 2026 character essay (I used a character count app btw) before you fessed up to say comedy in anime as a whole isn't really your thing. Well how about you just stick with what entertains you the most and refrain from ragging on other people's preferred genre by saying it "sucks" when in reality you already have a predisposed biased opinion against it. To each his own. - You also mentioned the fact you disliked the OP and ED music glorifying "hard rock" and "metal" well you haven't seen enough anime to say it's "almost everytime" then. A lot of people here who've seen a wide variety of anime (me included) say that your broad statement about the OP & ED songs in anime are flat out coming from ignorance if not stupid. I am not ragging on anybodys opinion. Seems like youre a sensitive soul. I guess people cant critique anything nowadays. |
Apr 23, 2020 2:07 PM
#145
humantwig said: Watch Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou Will do. I have a lot of rec's already. Gotta plough through them giving the 3 episode rule though |
Apr 23, 2020 2:08 PM
#146
traballante said: well just ask yourself why a comedy movie rarely get realese outside its home country. This is true, but I feel like the repetitive nature of anime comedy is something exclusive to it. |
Apr 23, 2020 2:10 PM
#147
CallMeHoot said: Well, humour and whether you laugh at something is entirely dependent on your own sense of it. Asobi Asobase for example, I found hilarious, but Prison School, while good, only got an occasional grin out of me. When you say "Like there is no subtlety in anime comedy or even funny explicit humor." that just tells me you haven't watched enough, because both of those things you think are non-existent do in fact exist, and in spades. Off the top of my head, Nichijou is an example of an anime that has both, some scenes are laced with dry situational humour and others are just in your face laughs. Perhaps, I havent but even Prison school is the same pervert/fem-dom humor the only difference being it is executed way better than other anime with the screenplay. Still, not a gutbuster though. |
Apr 23, 2020 2:13 PM
#148
| I agree that this kinda humor is shit or that I realy dislike it but saying they should do "like western does" is absolutely stupid and wrong. it imposes a globalisation that destroys nationalities and different nation's identities. also, there are a lot of good comedy animes like saiki kusuo, konosuba that absolutely don't do what you've described, I think most of the time, this humor is in not-comedy animes that want to have a comedy scene. But there are some absolutely incredible shows out there. |
Apr 23, 2020 2:13 PM
#149
BatoKusanagi said: BiggSmeller said: I don't know what IR is and I did mention why they suck. They are predictable, identical to each other instance of comedy and just dont ever breach a higher echelon of humor other than "look at this funny face" or "look at this nosebleed" or "look at this silly character" or "wow hes chasing after him now" IR = Ishizoku Reviewers? You mentioned it lol You didn't say any of that in your opening post and could elaborate on what you mean by "echelons of humor". Also, I meant that you didn't really say anything (in your opening post) about some of the typical comedy recs like, say, Nichijou or Grand Blue, or the more surreal stuff like Excel Saga and Pop Team Epic. You just mentioned IR (something that isn't exactly top comedy by most people's standards) and went into generalities that don't really describe the actual "top" comedies. If youve read my chats with others youll see they reccomended me most of those titles you listed and i havent watched Grand Blue, Excel saga etc. Oh and I didnt know IR was ishuzoku. Here is what I mean by echelons of humor: A kid could think this joke is funny : "A man was walking... AND THEN HE FELL DOWN LMAO LOL ROFL XD " and similar minded people to that kid may also find that funny. I would consider this a low echelon of humor. All it means is that some jokes are better than others. |
Apr 23, 2020 2:14 PM
#150
BiggSmeller said: Perhaps, I havent but even Prison school is the same pervert/fem-dom humor the only difference being it is executed way better than other anime with the screenplay. Still, not a gutbuster though. I'm curious....can you site examples of some non-anime entertainment that you consider gutbusting-funny? |
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