Why Tamayo didn t reveal anything about Yoriichi and breath of the sun? [SPOILERS]

Tanjiro_Kanao_30 said:

Why didn' t Tamayo reveal anything about Yoriichi,all see through,mark,breath of the sun and about Yoriichi existense to Kagaya,Tanjiro and other demon slayers.

Shreyas2002 said:
Didn't Tamayo escape, after muzans defeat?

Elvarth said:


I guess she did. First, when Ubuyashiki had told Gyomei before Muzan arrived, he pointed out that Muzan would not die even if they chop off his head. This info may come from Tamayo. As a result, their plan was to pin down Muzan until dawn and Tamayo tried to hold him with her medicine and waited for the pillars to arrive. Unfortunately, her plan failed.

Secondly, Tamayo helped Shinobu hide the smell of poison in her body. Shinobu planned to use her poisonous body on Muzan or Doma so Tamayo actually indirectly assisted the pillars in different aspects.

Thirdly, in chapter 170, Gyomei told Kokushibo that there was one exception about the marked one who did not die even he passed the age of 25. We already know that person is Yoriichi.

In my opinion, their initial plan to defeat Muzan will be revealed more in details in upcoming chapters from one of three characters: Yushiro (highest chance), Gyomei, and Kiriya.

In conclusion, we will not keep reading this series until this chapter if everything is clearly explained every chapter. KNY would be a detailed guideline but not a thrilling story.

Shreyas2002 said:
Didn't Tamayo escape, after muzans defeat?

Tanjiro_Kanao_30 said:


She did but she agree to work together with Yoriichi to kill Muzan. Read Yoriichi flashblack she was alive and saw whole battle between Muzan vs Yoriichi.

deg said:


you are interpreting that they work together extensively though lol they parted ways shortly after that fight with Muzan so it could be they just said to each other that they will fight Muzan with their own ways in that short amount of time that they talked to each other

Tanjiro_Kanao_30 said:


You have no evidence to prove that they said that. All we know they work together

The fact Tamayo never reveal Muzan escape trick to any of demon slayers or ubyashiki which Muzan use to escape from Yoriichi 400 years ago is either suspicious or plain stupid as she saw it with her own eyes. As Muzan could easily escape again now.The only one who has that knowledge alive now is Tanjiro thanks to a dream which is 50 or even less chance anyone thought he could do that.

Tell me how is this either stupid or plain stupid

Tell nothing about Yoriichi,Bots,Dotg,Muzan trick and nothing it as if Tamayo lost her memories

deg said:


Tamayo is a demon she will not go and tell the Demon Slayers what she knows at that time especially or she will risk being killed by the Demon Slayers

look at how Nezuko is treated by the Pillars of Demon Slayers alone

Tanjiro_Kanao_30 said:


Its no excuse for not telling Muzan escape trick as she doesn t even need Yoriichi to tell her that. She saw it with own her eyes. She could tell at least about this when she ally with kagaya around sometime before infinity fotress arc and have him inform Demon slayers about it is very vital. The fact she doesn t tell anything about Yoriichi and mark existense is already stupid.

deg said:


how did the head of the Demon Slayers know that mark existence then? and the head of the Demon Slayer knows Tamayo right when he mentions her to Tanjiro during that Nezuko trial with the Pillars so its safe to say Tamayo mentions the mark existence to the head of the Demon Slayer corps already

and the head of the Demon Slayers know also about the sun breathing if im right since the Mist Pillar is a sun breathing descendant

Tanjiro_Kanao_30 said:


They don t know mark existense until Tanjiro and Kanroji battle against Hatengu. Even Amnane ubuyashiki and Kagaya aren t even sure about it thats how pillar training arc comes in to have them awaken the mark.

See Tamayo saids nothing and provide no information about the mark,Yoriichi and Muzan trick. Its make no sense

deg said:


how did the head of the Demon Slayers know that mark existence then? and the head of the Demon Slayer knows Tamayo right when he mentions her to Tanjiro during that Nezuko trial with the Pillars so its safe to say Tamayo mentions the mark existence to the head of the Demon Slayer corps already

and the head of the Demon Slayers know also about the sun breathing if im right since the Mist Pillar is a sun breathing descendant

deg said:


they know the mark existence but they do not know how to make it work thats it

Muzans trick for surviving is so trivial detail though since most of the Pillars like the Stone Pillar knows how to use the See Through World eyes

Tanjiro_Kanao_30 said:


So trivial do you even know what you are talking about?? So trivial that even Yoriichi couldn t slice all his body the same speed that Blitz Kokushibo as a demon in verge of death. You have no idea what you are talking about.

ExaltedChampion said:


There was record of the mark. Not detail record but record nevertheless. The head said that swordman with the marks appeal throughout the age to help the corp in some of their darkest hours. they know about the mark, just don't know how one get it except it spread from person to person. Also Tamayo pretty sure about her medicine, if it work like it should Muzan wouldn't be able to do that escape trick anymore.

deg said:


i mean Muzan can shapeshift or change his biology at will like he did when he made himself a woman so high chance his biological parts are different now

and why are you so triggered? lol

deg said:


err you do not know what shapeshifting means then

fine im out of here go push your headcanon all you want

Tanjiro_Kanao_30 said:


You can t come with any reasonable answer is why you leave. Go just leave

deg said:


ok whats your end goal with this then? lower your score for this manga?

Tanjiro_Kanao_30 said:


There is no prove it would prevent him from doing that it never said or implied. It just said to restrain him then have all pillars kep attacking him until he turn human then he got kill as he has no powers.

ExaltedChampion said:

Since this arc kinda long you may have forget that the infinity fortress isn't a part of the plan. After the head blow himself off everyone were surrounding Muzan. They don't know that one of his minion could teleport and save him. What happen after that wasn't mean to happen. Alo the medicine main purposel was to turn Muzan human, not restrain him.

ExaltedChampion said:

Since this arc kinda long you may have forget that the infinity fortress isn't a part of the plan. After the head blow himself off everyone were surrounding Muzan. They don't know that one of his minion could teleport and save him. What happen after that wasn't mean to happen. Alo the medicine main purposel was to turn Muzan human, not restrain him.

deg said:


yep and high chance Tamayos medicine did not work at all and even made Muzan shapeshift or evolve like his current final form so to me that is one proof that Muzans biology is different now and i mean he really looks different now too anyway

Tanjiro_Kanao_30 said:


Hm you may have a point there maybe Thats why she didn t told anyone about Muzan trick as she was very confident Medicine could turn Muzan human and get kill by the pillars. Still can t weird she didn t told anyone about Yoriichi,mark and among others things.

Even so I still its off Tamayo never told anyone anything about what I mention but I guess I leave with this answer for now.

Tanjiro_Kanao_30 said:


She saw whole battle and She was muzan right man and Yoriichi accomplice. She has all knowledge need to kill Muzan but never pass it down why??

nanashi796 said:
they mention the breath of the sun in chapter 68,fire breath user that was friend with yoriichi passed the records of that time in his family,and kagaya already know about the marks,muzan will never use the same escape trick twice

nanashi796 said:
ubuyashiki family passes all of the informations generation to generation,kagaya knows everything,he knows about yoriichi,breath of the sun and the marks.

Kaiser-chan said:
Where did it says that Yorichi and Tamayo works together? IRRC, Tamayo only met Yorichi once that one time with Muzan.

Tanjiro_Kanao_30 said:


They why he never explain Yoriichi breath of the sun 13 form,Muzan escape ability and how can all them unlock the mark. They were testing how to unlock mark without being 100 percent sure it work. He doesn t know about Yoriichi and Bots very much he knows little.

Why Tanjiro have to go trouble getting to rengoku family to know about breath of the sun? If he could ask Ubuyashiki himself?

ExaltedChampion said:

Cause he don't know much about Breath of the Sun. Remember that Yoriichi modified the Breath Style to fit the person he taught and Yoriichi wasn't the most open person. Also many information just lost overtime since it ahve been 400 years since Yoriichi. And the origin of the marks was left unknown, they only know it started with Yoriichi without understand how it work. Heck the reason why Rengoku family have the infor is because some diary left by their ancestor who was the closest person to Yoriichi when he was in the corp.

Tanjiro_Kanao_30 said:


Exactly what I said. Ubuyashiki no little to nothing about Yoriichi and breath of the sun. This beg question why Yoriichi didn t share all he knows to Tamayo pass it down to history when time comes when Demon corps will ally with Tamayo and so future generation can kill Muzan with knowledge Yoriichi lend to Tamayo.Yoriichi knows Tamayo is immortal demon who can t die of old age so passing the information is easily achieve.

This is what confuse me and hence I create this topic. Sadly for now we never know.

ExaltedChampion said:

Like i said, Yoriichi wasn't a talky type. He only came to to talk to Tanjirou's ancestor when he have no one else to turn to. Also his breath style isn't something that he could tell someone and they gonna understand, especially someone who have no martial art training like Tamayo. Also what exactly does Yoriichi know about Muzan that Tamayo herself not already known to begin with. He met Muzan like once time too.

Tanjiro_Kanao_30 said:


Then Its very stupid mistake he make the third time in his life record for another of his failure besides failing in killing Muzan and kokushibo. Talktive or not you don t need immense socials skills to talk just talk like any person. He should inform about All Muzan weakness besides Muzan escape ability,he should have explain red crimson nirchin blade and 13 form. It doesn t matter If Tamayo doesn t understand it just tell formula and fundementals need to learn this techiques and make sure it isn t lost to history and Have Tamayo find someone who can learn this techiques in the future by informing formula and fundementals by explainations to able to use this techiques.

Plus Yoriichi already have skills of teacher he was the one who told Many demons slayers breath style. He is first breath user. He isn t that bad in social skills.

Tamayo didn t inform anyone about muzan escape ability is another thing thats confusing. It never been explain.

ExaltedChampion said:

I don't think Yoriichi even understand about the red blade, it just something he can do, not necessary mean he understand it, like his see-through-world. Martial art isn't something you could tell someone and they can be pass on with just words, it require practice and demonstration of technique. ANd even if you learn by heart every technique doesn't mean you can apply it to real combat since martial arts are about application. And how could Yoriichi know about any Muzan weakness, he met him once and just rush in and beat his ass with his 13th form. He basically good at doing stuff but isn't very good at explaining how he do that stuff, which okay which martial art since it you could just show it.

Tanjiro_Kanao_30 said:


Wrong pal I already told you He taught many demon slayers how to use breaths he knows how to explains stuffs and can taught breath styles to others. If can t do the things you mentions. Pass on fundementals and formula 13 form and breath of the sun. He should have done this and warn Future generation of Muzan escape ability.

Doesn t matter its inexcusable for Yoriichi and Tamayo for not passing down anything and very strange. It is better than nothing. The intel and information they know could prove very useful for future generations.

ExaltedChampion said:

The reason why he taught other more specialist version of his Style is because no one can do it. Martial art itself don't have formula, you learn by watching your master and practice the pattern, this isn't Math or Chemistry. Also how can he pass on something he don't even understand like the red blade or See-Through-World, those thing for him are like breathing, something he can do since birth? Heck he even asked his wife if she see the world as he does, meaning that don't even know that his ability wasn't normal until then.

ExaltedChampion said:

The reason why he taught other more specialist version of his Style is because no one can do it. Martial art itself don't have formula, you learn by watching your master and practice the pattern, this isn't Math or Chemistry. Also how can he pass on something he don't even understand like the red blade or See-Through-World, those thing for him are like breathing, something he can do since birth? Heck he even asked his wife if she see the world as he does, meaning that don't even know that his ability wasn't normal until then.