Tell us what you like and dislike about Goblin Slayer without using the words "SJW" and "edgy"

FJW said:
First of all: Finally another fantasy-show that is set in something reasonably approximating medieval times! And without characters beamed in from present-day!!

But:

* The violence is still too tame in terms of how graphic it is. When I compare this to the other two big dark-fantasy-series (Claymore and Berserk) in which limbs and guts keep flying around this really is the family-friendly version of it.
* It's also not dark enough for my taste. The first episode aside, there was never any reason to be afraid for anyone and notably nobody died. Granted, the first slaughter of protagonists in Claymore appeared in episode 8 in Claymore and it took even longer in Berserk, but something tells me that we won't see that in goblin-slayer. Which would mean that there are no stakes in it. Even the general feeling of the show is more like “happy guild-live” than “dreadfully awaiting the next disaster”, that the mentioned shows provide. Heck, even “Seirei no Moribito” and “the twelve Kingdoms” feature more dread.
* Too much fanservice: I don't mind being shown stuff that is relevant to the plot (for example the rape-scene) or if it is relevant for a character (for example you SHOULD go crazy with fanservice on a succubus), but there is no reason why the red-haired-girl has to show of her overly-huge breasts like she does all the time. (I'm not yet sure about the smoking mage in the guild, she might qualify under the second category, I'd have to see more of her to be certain.) Now, to it's defence, I always say “do it or do not do it, but don't half-ass it” and at least goblin-slayer seems to follow that note. Doesn't change anything about the fact that the complete lack of fanservice in Claymores created a more powerful image.)

Also, a note on the rape-scene: I don't get why people have an issue with it; it was extremely short and directly after somebody got KILLED(!) which is a strictly worse fate. People who can't deal with that should simply stick to kids-shows.

Inces_Is_Winces said:

The rape scene is unneccessary and only there to milk the edgyness of the series.

I am not saying that rape is bad in stories, But when you write rape into a story it needs to be absolutely neccessary for said story, and needs to be portrayed correctly. You cannot have a rape scene happen in 1 chapter, but never mention or talk about and never explore the consequences ever again, You can make an entire arc centered about the emotional journey of trying to get over the rape, even worse if the characters involved never change at all after the rape (priestess). The Series also only rapes and kills the soulless stock characters of the series, so there is a lack of any emotional attachment to the character, when they do get raped, it feels like they were created with the sole intention of getting raped and killed and nothing else.

In GS, rape is treated as a gimick rather than given any real care in writing this theme, It's similar to how modern horror movies rely on jump scares to keep the audience entertained or "scared" with as little effort as possible.

It completely frustrates me that a series that has so much little effort put into the story is getting praised as the new "Berserk".

FJW said:


I honestly find it rather offensive how people treat rape as the worst thing ever, as if it wouldn't still be less terrible than getting killed. Someone was brutally murdered seconds before the rape-scene (whose victim survived!), yet nobody is talking about him or anyone else who died for that matter.

And I disagree that you automatically have to make an entire arc about it, why should you, when this is rarely ever done for the survivors of brutal defeats or the relatives of people who were murdered?

Yourmom53 said:
Because when you are murdered thats it, you are dead but when you are raped that carries a lot of psychological turmoil that will take years to repair.

Inces_Is_Winces said:


Here's a good benchmark whether or not a rape is "good":

Are the characters who were effected by the rape, change in any way? Personality, Motivation, etc.

Do we have any emotional attachment to the characters involved in the rape?

How do the characters involved deal with the rape?

Priestesses "joyful" personality does not change, she is still the same person she was in the beginning of episode 1. Fighter Girl does "change" but she isn't part of the main cast and we never see her again.

At this point of the story we have no connection to any of the characters so ppl could feel disturbed but never really sorry for them.

Priestess just "gets used to it" and tommorrow is ready to accompany GS for unknown reasons. Fighter Girl is basically dead in the series.

NoviSun said:
So, are you arguing that rape is good? I understand, it does beat the hell out of buying dinner and listening to them talk, but good luck staying out of jail.

Withoutaname said:


He's talking about how to handle a depiction of rape, not rape itself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use%E2%80%93mention_distinction

FJW said:


First of all, you cannot generalize that way, different people will be able to get over it with different amounts of problems. Just like not every soldier suffers from PTSD after going through battle, not every rape-victim does either. But of course a seizable portion does and the event in GS is certainly on the extreme end, so let's assume that this is the case here without forgetting that there is a non-zero chance that it is not:

FJW said:
If you are so traumatized that you cannot get over it, you can always commit suicide, getting into the same state that everyone who got killed was forced to go. If you get raped, you at least still get to choose and the majority prefers to live. (Yes, I am aware that the suicide-rates of rape-victims are very high, but AFAIK they are below 50%.)

TheArgonaut88 said:
it suffers from a huge tonal dissonance

kugrond said:


I have to disagree on that. Life has it's ups and downs, and no fiction exists without any cuts, a scene can happen quite some time after the previous one, so I'd say mixing comedy and dark moments isn't horrible or "cheap" edge. It will make anime less serious, and less mature, sure, but it isn't a deal-breaker for me. And comedy helped with making characters' deaths in Akame ga Kill have some impact.

Jeffrey_Samson said:


You r spot on man. People can say what they want. But the real fact is most anime nowadays are ones

1. Have an op character usually followed by a harem train. He never loses any fight and one shots every enemy.

2. Generic usual romance anime

3. Shounen anime like fairy tail. And many others fully depend on fanservice to catch audience. And the enemies whom r super strong always gets beaten usually by one punches.

4. Then there's that one anime where to obtain a demon power the MC literally fingers a loli succubus while his harem train watches.

5. I don't think I have to say about SAO

anime like these are loved and getting famous. I detest these anime cause they r annoying to watch. Harem trains, fanservice blablabla. There r billions of hentai anime and xx to satisfy our every needs. So why the useless fanservice and harems in an anime that has a chance to become a good anime?

And then we get goblin slayer. Like you said it's not afraid to get dirty which in itself most fantasy anime fail to show besides a few. The rape scenes were brutal but in real life rape is a common occurrence only the rapers r fellow humans who are dropped to lust and insanity. I don't care about the rape scenes cause I never cared for fanservices in anime cause there r hentai for that purpose. I checked why rape happened in goblins.
" It's the goblin's only way of reproduction and it's fun for them. " That should ring a bell cause replace goblins with humans and it's Preety much the same.

The most important thing of all is that the MC and his squad are not op or badasses. GS uses his brains and his experience with goblins to find better smarter ways to kill them. If people like kirito or natsu was in his place. Then they will only do one hit ko for all the enemies whoever they may be. For natsu his power up is friendship which can even one shot ( spoiler) fairy heart zeref and space time acnologia.

The hate for goblin slayer is beyond stupid. GS is doing its best to be a dark fantasy anime. The only things I hate about GS is the MC is mostly CGI. And the othercharacters have no specific backgrounds yet. But there's a different reason for that. In the novels the story is actually a board game player by the good and.bad gods. And all the characters are chess pieces.

So in the community where harem anime mostly which have useless characters with no background. Fanservice anime. Op anime. Goblin slayer is like a rare jewel. It may be hated by people. Excluding the people who see GS for the rape scenes being a turn on. Other people who truly understand what GS is trying to do are truly realistic people .

MABfan11 said:


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MABfan11 said:


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