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Sep 4, 2018 6:10 AM
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mira-pyon said:
Also the whole chivalry thing on Artoria's part was bullshit, so I further dislike him for making her act OOC.

Well, that was more Urobuchi's fault for writing Artoria like that. but k.
Sep 4, 2018 6:13 AM

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Diarmuid's character interactions and backstory were probably the worst handled parts of Zero, if not outright contradicting to his and other people's characterization.
Sep 4, 2018 6:19 AM

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see, mira gets it
hentai protag best boi ftw
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Sep 4, 2018 6:27 AM

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Shayon said:
mira-pyon said:
Also the whole chivalry thing on Artoria's part was bullshit, so I further dislike him for making her act OOC.

Well, that was more Urobuchi's fault for writing Artoria like that. but k.


Hey, if people can hate Sieg for taking others' spotlight(despite it being Higa's fault and not the character) I can dislike Derpmud for making my waifu act OOC.

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see, mira gets it
hentai protag best boi ftw


Alrite, you have good taste so I'll let you off for the burning.
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Sep 4, 2018 6:32 AM

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>new Saber Diamund
>isn't the focus of the gacha, still Waver and Iskandar

What's the point? Is he a 3*? Predicting part 2 will have something amazing.
Sep 4, 2018 6:36 AM

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mira-pyon said:
if people can hate Sieg for taking others' spotlight


That feel when Diarmuid is more guilty of this than Sieg

I wish it was Diarmuid who was universally hated and not Sieg

ShinsoPriest said:
What's the point? Is he a 3*? Predicting part 2 will have something amazing.


He's a SR. And there will be nothing new in part 2

They seem to be following the pattern of new gatcha SR in collab reruns.

SR Archer Fujino in KnK rerun
SR Saber Diarmuid in Zero rerun

Which means there'll be new SR Servants in Prillya, Apo and CCC reruns. Probably Miyu, Saber Astolfo and Rider Red Hare (Lu Bu?)
Sep 4, 2018 6:38 AM

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Speaking of OOC pairings, it creeps me the fuck out when there were hentais of Kiritsugu and Saber going at it.

I hate you guys for reminding me of this.
Sep 4, 2018 6:41 AM

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best part is, he's on rate up everyday, time to get spooked kek
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Sep 4, 2018 6:44 AM

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Can't get spooked if you don't roll! :^D
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Sep 4, 2018 6:56 AM

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AirConditioner said:
ShinsoPriest said:
What's the point? Is he a 3*? Predicting part 2 will have something amazing.


He's a SR. And there will be nothing new in part 2

They seem to be following the pattern of new gatcha SR in collab reruns.

SR Archer Fujino in KnK rerun
SR Saber Diarmuid in Zero rerun

Which means there'll be new SR Servants in Prillya, Apo and CCC reruns. Probably Miyu, Saber Astolfo and Rider Red Hare (Lu Bu?)

Yeah, but usually new servants are shown up front on the left or right of the banner to tell people "look at this shiny new thing! You want to get it!" Like Fujino was in the Knk rerun, but instead he's in the back like they know no one really cares about him. This is probably the biggest bait gacha I've ever seen.
Sep 4, 2018 6:59 AM

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AirConditioner said:


Which means there'll be new SR Servants in Prillya,
Probably Miyu,

> SR
> Miyu

FUCK. NO.


I mean, it'll be easier to get her this way, but still. Even if I don't get her, Best Imouto needs her long deserved stars, goddammit.
Sep 4, 2018 7:03 AM

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Miyu will be 5*

Shirou will be 4*

Golden_Scarlett said:
best part is, he's on rate up everyday, time to get spooked kek
It's not spook if he's on rate up :wut:
Sep 4, 2018 7:04 AM

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FSN collab covering Fate/UBW civil war with Emiya Lily 5* Saber Servant when.
Sep 4, 2018 7:06 AM

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Hope he's not permanent then cause he'll be spooking Gold Saber rolls in the future
Sep 4, 2018 7:07 AM

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I just hope Miyu isn't another Caster.
Sep 4, 2018 7:07 AM

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Is he that bad? I haven't checked him out yet so I'm a little out of the loop. By little I mean completely.
Sep 4, 2018 7:09 AM

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Botato said:
Is he that bad?


The quality is the same as Lancer Diarmuid.

It just so happens that a decent number of people here, especially me, don't quite like Lancer Diarmuid either. But at least Lancer one can't spook cause he's not a Gold.
Sep 4, 2018 7:17 AM

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Well that's disappointing.

Also I think everyone here dislikes him. Maybe not as strongly as coughfaicough did but I do remember everyone here butting heads with secondaries over him :lul:

Good times.
Sep 4, 2018 7:21 AM

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>secondaries lul
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Sep 4, 2018 7:24 AM
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Golden_Scarlett said:
honest question, why is diamurd so popular with the female fanbase
like i get it, the bishie face and sad backstory with the ladies all of that, but come on ._.
His love spot goes beyond dimensions and works on even the female fanbase apparently
Sep 4, 2018 7:27 AM
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Genkii said:
Speaking of OOC pairings, it creeps me the fuck out when there were hentais of Kiritsugu and Saber going at it.

I hate you guys for reminding me of this.

Don't tell me you actually read them.
Sep 4, 2018 7:31 AM
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Shayon said:
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As a chick, Derpmud is pretty but people shipped him with Artoria for some time, so I don't like him.

Not anywhere near as bad as shipping her with Gil.
Vanilla Artoria sure, but I quite the like SalterxGil ship tbh.
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Sep 4, 2018 7:33 AM

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I love using Kiara with Tamamo. NPs are spammable as fuck, but god, Kiara needs to get a NP interlude or some shit already. Her NP dmg isn't that good.
Sep 4, 2018 7:35 AM
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Don't think I'll be spending anything more than a yolo ticket or two here.
Sep 4, 2018 7:42 AM

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AirConditioner said:
I love using Kiara with Tamamo. NPs are spammable as fuck, but god, Kiara needs to get a NP interlude or some shit already. Her NP dmg isn't that good.

Try grailing and level 100 black grail. Double Tamamo also.
Sep 4, 2018 7:42 AM
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-Mahesvara said:
Shayon said:

Not anywhere near as bad as shipping her with Gil.
Vanilla Artoria sure, but I quite the like SalterxGil ship tbh.

And Salter is going to be the dominant one in the relationship.
Gil would be lucky.
Sep 4, 2018 7:44 AM

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Shayon said:
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Vanilla Artoria sure, but I quite the like SalterxGil ship tbh.

And Salter is going to be the dominant one in the relationship.
Gil would be lucky.

Already canon in Carnival Phantasm
Sep 4, 2018 7:45 AM
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Shayon said:
-Mahesvara said:
Vanilla Artoria sure, but I quite the like SalterxGil ship tbh.

And Salter is going to be the dominant one in the relationship.
Gil would be lucky.
That's exactly why I like it lol, Salter is the only one who can make Gil submissive.
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ShinsoPriest said:
Shayon said:

And Salter is going to be the dominant one in the relationship.
Gil would be lucky.

Already canon in Carnival Phantasm

Yeah, I still need to watch that sometime. Especially now that I finished Kagetsu Tohya.
Sep 4, 2018 7:49 AM
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ShinsoPriest said:
Shayon said:

And Salter is going to be the dominant one in the relationship.
Gil would be lucky.

Already canon in Carnival Phantasm
I also believe its canon in fgo. In the 1st winter event, Gilgamesh wrote a letter to Santa Salter because he wanted her to visit him and be his Christmas present.
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Sep 4, 2018 10:27 AM

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Guys guys. I have 32Q , 7 tickets.

I want an assassin and a Lancer.

Should I 1 roll x10 in the specific class banner or should I only do individual rolls for both class? Is it worth do individual rolls? ( not tickets )

(NA BTW but I know most here have enough experience to answer )
Sep 4, 2018 11:06 AM

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Veromaye said:
Guys guys. I have 32Q , 7 tickets.

I want an assassin and a Lancer.

Should I 1 roll x10 in the specific class banner or should I only do individual rolls for both class? Is it worth do individual rolls? ( not tickets )

(NA BTW but I know most here have enough experience to answer )

10x rolls have guaranteed gold.
When talking probability, there's no one thing that is objectively better, it all depends on luck. However, throwing resources at a guaranteed result, even if unsatisfactory, is almost always better than being completely at the mercy of pure chance.

About the classes you're missing, well, I'm of the opinion that you should roll for specific Servants, not classes.

In early JP we had no choice but to run for classes because it was a shortcoming in our lineup and we didn't know what DW will present us for the future. We just wanted to be ready for whatever they throw at us.
This is not the case in NA, fortunately for you. You know exactly what the best of what's coming is and when they'll there.

First and foremost, save for waifus/husbandos. After that, you may do what you want.

If you want the best Assassins: Save for Jack and MHX. Jack is always what you should aim for, though. Also, make sure you get Shiki in the rerun.
I'm assuming you already have Summer Scatty. If not, look into Cleopatra and Summer Ushi.

If you want the best Lancers: Save for Bryn, Karna and Summer Raikou. Bryn's rate-ups are so rare, they deservingly attained meme status. Save for it in advance, if you have to.
I'm assuming you'll be getting Jailter (Santa loli J. Alter). If not, look into Parvati.
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Golden_Scarlett said:
honest question, why is diamurd so popular with the female fanbase
like i get it, the bishie face and sad backstory with the ladies all of that, but come on ._.


I love him just because he's so damn beautiful I want to protect his face at all costs

.....maybe I got charmed by his mole

On another note, where's my 5* rider wheelchair Kayneth servant dw
Sep 4, 2018 11:20 AM

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astroprogs said:


If you want the best Assassins: Save for Jack and MHX. Jack is always what you should aim for, though. Also, make sure you get Shiki in the rerun.
I'm assuming you already have Summer Scatty. If not, look into Cleopatra and Summer Ushi.

If you want the best Lancers: Save for Bryn, Karna and Summer Raikou. Bryn's rate-ups are so rare, they deservingly attained meme status. Save for it in advance, if you have to.
I'm assuming you'll be getting Jailter (Santa loli J. Alter). If not, look into Parvati.


Sadly I started FGO when summer event had about 4 o 5 days left. I had no resources to finish that fast, so I just gave up and prepared myself for Prillya event.

I have Kojiro NP 5 already but I'm unsure if he's worth fully ascending :/ .

In fact I've only leveled few skills and ascended only the ones I urgently needed due the fear of getting a better servant and not having the mats because I wasted them on another servant that was inferior.


So you suggest me to NOT even roll for that banner? Not even a x10 for assassin or lancer?

Don't worry about giving me a solid no, because I don't really want to spend the only x10 roll if I have better chances later.
Sep 4, 2018 11:25 AM

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Mirai said:

On another note, where's my 5* rider wheelchair Kayneth servant dw


He's apparently a shopkeeper


I'm not saying it's likely, but seeing as they hired his VA to do lines, and considering we got Fujinon, whose sole claim to fame was murdering a few dudes and destroying a bridge, miracles can happen.

Sep 4, 2018 11:49 AM

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Diarmuid I don't like, but I perfectly understand if someone does. Kayneth, however, I'll never understand.

Just why the hell is that guy famous? All he does is get screwed over by his student, get screwed over by his Servant's curse, get screwed over by his fiance and get screwed over by Kiritsugu, all while acting like an arrogant moron.

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astroprogs said:


If you want the best Assassins: Save for Jack and MHX. Jack is always what you should aim for, though. Also, make sure you get Shiki in the rerun.
I'm assuming you already have Summer Scatty. If not, look into Cleopatra and Summer Ushi.

If you want the best Lancers: Save for Bryn, Karna and Summer Raikou. Bryn's rate-ups are so rare, they deservingly attained meme status. Save for it in advance, if you have to.
I'm assuming you'll be getting Jailter (Santa loli J. Alter). If not, look into Parvati.


Sadly I started FGO when summer event had about 4 o 5 days left. I had no resources to finish that fast, so I just gave up and prepared myself for Prillya event.

I have Kojiro NP 5 already but I'm unsure if he's worth fully ascending :/ .

In fact I've only leveled few skills and ascended only the ones I urgently needed due the fear of getting a better servant and not having the mats because I wasted them on another servant that was inferior.


So you suggest me to NOT even roll for that banner? Not even a x10 for assassin or lancer?

Don't worry about giving me a solid no, because I don't really want to spend the only x10 roll if I have better chances later.

Oh. I knew you started a short while back, but I didn't expect it to be this close. Well, in that case, you're severely short on Servants overall. I'd say go for it. Personally, I'd go all in for the Assassin rate-up because Jack is a universally awesome Servant and a far better choice than what the current best Lancers have to offer.
The next good Assassin rate-up is in late October (Cleopatra), but if you're betting your chances on a 5* anyway, you're infinitely better off betting on the chance to get Jack.

Kojiro is worthless after Orleans. You made the right call not to waste resources on him. If you're unable to get any gold Assassins, Fuuma is basically a 3* Jack. He should hold you up nicely until the Cleopatra rate-up in late October.

Wish you the best of luck with that roll.
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They should make Kayneth the second coming of Fionn so that he can rot in my second archive forever that's what they get for bullying Diarmuid smh
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Kayneth might be an arrogant dick, but he's an arrogant dick with principles. And compared to Emiya "did everything wrong" Kiritsugu, Matou "nice guy" Kariya, Uryuu "serial murderer" Ryuunosuke, Kotomine "literally evil" Kirei, and Tohsaka "would totally let my 5 year old be raped and mind broken by an old man as long as her potential isn't wasted" Tokiomi, Kayneth is a goddamn saint.

He's also really easy to bully.

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I heard Diarmuid is permanent
bruh
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SherouCreationEX said:
Kayneth might be an arrogant dick, but he's an arrogant dick with principles. And compared to Emiya "did everything wrong" Kiritsugu, Matou "nice guy" Kariya, Uryuu "serial murderer" Ryuunosuke, Kotomine "literally evil" Kirei, and Tohsaka "would totally let my 5 year old be raped and mind broken by an old man as long as her potential isn't wasted" Tokiomi, Kayneth is a goddamn saint.

He's also really easy to bully.


I see you're a man of culture.

I never understood the hate towards Kayneth. I mean yes, he's an arrogant asshole but like you said, he's magician after all.

The way he was killed made me hate Kiritsugu after all the neutrality I was having towards him.

He even decided to leave the HGW for his fiancee.
Kayneth did nothing wrong :'l
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Mirai said:
They should make Kayneth the second coming of Fionn so that he can rot in my second archive forever that's what they get for bullying Diarmuid smh


Okay, but Diarmuid's the one who wronged them. Not the other way around. He deserved it.
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astroprogs said:

Oh. I knew you started a short while back, but I didn't expect it to be this close. Well, in that case, you're severely short on Servants overall. I'd say go for it. Personally, I'd go all in for the Assassin rate-up because Jack is a universally awesome Servant and a far better choice than what the current best Lancers have to offer.
The next good Assassin rate-up is in late October (Cleopatra), but if you're betting your chances on a 5* anyway, you're infinitely better off betting on the chance to get Jack.

Kojiro is worthless after Orleans. You made the right call not to waste resources on him. If you're unable to get any gold Assassins, Fuuma is basically a 3* Jack. He should hold you up nicely until the Cleopatra rate-up in late October.

Wish you the best of luck with that roll.


Soo, I think I'll be doing only a x10 on lancers and tickets for assassin, if not I'll get more quartz for Cleo, unless I get Fuuma and I accept the reality of my E Luck.

Alright, thanks a lot astro! <:
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SherouCreationEX said:
Kayneth might be an arrogant dick, but he's an arrogant dick with principles. And compared to Emiya "did everything wrong" Kiritsugu, Matou "nice guy" Kariya, Uryuu "serial murderer" Ryuunosuke, Kotomine "literally evil" Kirei, and Tohsaka "would totally let my 5 year old be raped and mind broken by an old man as long as her potential isn't wasted" Tokiomi, Kayneth is a goddamn saint.

He's also really easy to bully.

Veromaye said:
I see you're a man of culture.

I never understood the hate towards Kayneth. I mean yes, he's an arrogant asshole but like you said, he's magician after all.

The way he was killed made me hate Kiritsugu after all the neutrality I was having towards him.

He even decided to leave the HGW for his fiancee.
Kayneth did nothing wrong :'l


Despite being an asshole, Kayneth's literally the only person in that HGW (besides some Servants) who has an actual sense of honour and a desire to fight fair. He's a naive dumbass cause he expected a HGW to be a fair fight between mages, but at the end of the day, he got wronged by everyone in that war because of his naivety, despite being one of the better people in that war.

The issue is, however, that he's remembered as an abusive asshole who ''wronged'' Diarmuid which is actually not the case at all if you follow the things Diarmuid actually has to say about himself and what his character is actually like, but Urobuchi in spite of that somehow manages to portray Diarmuid as a honourable, ''dindu-nuffin' wrong/everyone else is wrong'' guy when he's literally the cause of all the ire that comes his way for a reason.

He did the same shit with Artoria~Lancelot where he portrayed Artoria as a dumbass who led her people into death and was essentially a horrible King and Lancelot is the victim of her horrible leadership, except that's not actually the case at all and Lancelot's just a narcissistic lunatic.

However, unlike Saber, Kayneth and Fionn don't have the advantage of being established characters before that point and Fionn was literally a non-character, so the ''shitty, sleazy dirtbags'' portrayal still sticks with them to this day even though that's not how Diarmuid's story goes at all, not in Fate and not in actual legend.

Yes I'm not too happy about this entire ''Fionn is a dirtbag, Diarmuid is a dindu-nuffin wrong'' portrayal Urobuchi did and he pulled a clear Kayneth-Fionn parallel which served to retroactively demonize both. Because ''hey this Fionn guy is an old dirtbag, and this Kayneth is exactly like him! They both abuse the poor honourable Diarmuid who just wants to be a good knight''
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Can we just agree on Waver being best FZ character?
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Waver doesn't get good until he grows up tho. I don't think that really counts for FZ.

Veromaye said:

Soo, I think I'll be doing only a x10 on lancers and tickets for assassin, if not I'll get more quartz for Cleo, unless I get Fuuma and I accept the reality of my EX Luck.


Ftfy. Getting mega-cute-smol-boi instead of the other 3* Assassins can be seen as nothing less than fantastic luck.
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Botato said:
Can we just agree on Waver being best FZ character?


Waver overall is best FZ character, also small Rin who saved her butt from being murder-raped by "COOL".

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mira-pyon said:

Ftfy. Getting mega-cute-smol-boi instead of the other 3* Assassins can be seen as nothing less than fantastic luck.


So he's the angry man of the assassins?

Also, how good or bad is angry man? I got him and I have no idea if I should ascend him because his mats are high and heck I'm a noob unsure of what to do.
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Veromaye said:
Botato said:
Can we just agree on Waver being best FZ character?


Waver overall is best FZ character, also small Rin who saved her butt from being murder-raped by "COOL".

That was not canon iirc.

Or at least she couldn't manage to save the kids. I don't remember but she just passes out and Kariya saves her or something.
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Veromaye said:
Soo, I think I'll be doing only a x10 on lancers and tickets for assassin, if not I'll get more quartz for Cleo, unless I get Fuuma and I accept the reality of my E Luck.

Alright, thanks a lot astro! <:

Any time :D

SherouCreationEX said:
Kayneth might be an arrogant dick, but he's an arrogant dick with principles. And compared to Emiya "did everything wrong" Kiritsugu, Matou "nice guy" Kariya, Uryuu "serial murderer" Ryuunosuke, Kotomine "literally evil" Kirei, and Tohsaka "would totally let my 5 year old be raped and mind broken by an old man as long as her potential isn't wasted" Tokiomi, Kayneth is a goddamn saint.

He's also really easy to bully.


> Kayneth might be an arrogant dick, but he's an arrogant dick with principles.

Risei Kotomine would like to have a word with you. Oh wait...

> Matou "nice guy" Kariya

Kariya is a piece of shit. There's nothing nice about that dirtbag.

> Tohsaka "would totally let my 5 year old be raped and mind broken by an old man as long as her potential isn't wasted" Tokiomi

Except Tokiome never thought that. In fact, Tokiomi is one of the best people in that war.

> Kayneth is a goddamn saint.

Kayneth is far from being the worst person in the war, but he's not exactly likable either.

Botato said:
Can we just agree on Waver being best FZ character?

You mean best morally or best written?

If it's the former, then definitely. If the latter, then I think that goes to Kirei.

also f u rin is best character in everything she appears in
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Botato said:
That was not canon iirc.

Or at least she couldn't manage to save the kids. I don't remember but she just passes out and Kariya saves her or something.


Canon from the novel you mean?
Oh well I still think that a little girl managing to escape from a serial murderer is still something admirable.

Also fuck Tokiomi and Aoi
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