| If someone wants to add me to help me out somehow this is my FC 299,177,468 I'm lacking a good Lancer, I got Hektor but Hektor is meh, I mean id rather wait and get Cu.  My current party. If anyone has suggestions of what to do I will appreciate it a lot uwu. I'm trying to level up my female servants for the Kaleid event so I can get Kuro |
astroprogs said: ShinsoPriest said: So who here didn't roll Skadi? Cause double Skadi with Melt/Jack/Artoria Alter Rider melts all bosses in a couple turns. She's too broken. I find myself gravitating towards my Quick servants now even though I own Merlin and Gilgamesh. Berserker Lancelot is actually fun to use now. Skadi is great for Quicks, but just NOT as good for them as Tamamo for Arts and Merlin for Busters. I mean, don't get me wrong, a Double Skadi can 3-turn NP spam with multiple Servants, which is more than what Tamamo and Merlin can claim, but then... what. She feels kinda useless after her 3 turns are out and you get stuck with her 2 Arts cards and honestly below average NP for most fights. I could say a lot more about her, but this all I'll say for now: Quicks are currently so shit on a fundamental level, Skadi needed to be Merlin-broken. She's great for what she does, but she should've been amazing, not great. At least that's how I feel about her. Certainly, Skadi isn't a quick Merlin. Quite frankly I can't see anyone ever reaching his tier with the way his NP works and his NP passive. She's definitely at the Tamamo tier though. Skadi has made Quick teams really really freakin' good at short battles. For drawn out battles is where her use declines as outside of cooldown she doesn't contribute as much as Tamamo or Merlin. Anyway just look at how MHXA effortlessly makes short work of Saber Alter who has around 3 million HP in 3 TURNS. I guarantee you that you will not get the same results with Buster or Arts servants in that short amount of time unless you use command spells. Quick has beastly potential now thanks to Skadi. |
| I've been reading about Summer J. Alter and something at the back of my head kept on nagging me whenever I saw people complaining about her numbers. Something didn't seem right to me, so I did the calculations. Thinking about who I can compare her with, I went for the big 4* daddy himself; Herc. Here are the numbers. First, I started with the most common scenario: NP1 Herc and NP5 J. Alter: Herc 80 NP1 : 11,655 * 1.5 * 1.08 * 1.31 * 6 = 148,406 Herc 90 NP1 : 12,655 * 1.5 * 1.08 * 1.31 * 6 = 161,139 Jalter 80 NP5 : 11,298 * 1.82 * 1.2 * 10 = 246,748 Jalter 90 NP5 : 12,500 * 1.82 * 1.2 * 10 = 273,000 Then, I went for the absolute best conditions for the two: lvl 100 and NP5 for both: Herc 100 NP5 : 13,901 * 1.5 * 1.08 * 1.31 * 10 = 295,007 Jalter 100 NP5 : 13,469 * 1.82 * 1.2 * 10 = 294,163 Integrating bond CEs into the equation, Herc's gives his famous survivability, while J. Alter's gives her 10% on Buster and NP. Looking at this, DW essentially gave everyone a free maximized Herc with less survivability. I have no idea how can anyone look at her and complain. Veromaye said: Hello all, so I finally get to play this Jigoku no game. My first roll was okay I guess.. Tamamo Cat and D'Eon. Then I make my mom do my first 30 quartz roll and she gets Ozy. WUt Then I try my luck with a ticket and get Altera. Wut? Is in NA so easy to get SSR or I just got very lucky? Hey, welcome to hell to F/GO :D You just got very lucky. Though I just got 2 SSRs (3, if you count the multiple copies) and 8 SRs this month, so I'm not sure if I'm one to talk lol. ShinsoPriest said: astroprogs said: Skadi is great for Quicks, but just NOT as good for them as Tamamo for Arts and Merlin for Busters. I mean, don't get me wrong, a Double Skadi can 3-turn NP spam with multiple Servants, which is more than what Tamamo and Merlin can claim, but then... what. She feels kinda useless after her 3 turns are out and you get stuck with her 2 Arts cards and honestly below average NP for most fights. I could say a lot more about her, but this all I'll say for now: Quicks are currently so shit on a fundamental level, Skadi needed to be Merlin-broken. She's great for what she does, but she should've been amazing, not great. At least that's how I feel about her. Certainly, Skadi isn't a quick Merlin. Quite frankly I can't see anyone ever reaching his tier with the way his NP works and his NP passive. She's definitely at the Tamamo tier though. Skadi has made Quick teams really really freakin' good at short battles. For drawn out battles is where her use declines as outside of cooldown she doesn't contribute as much as Tamamo or Merlin. Anyway just look at how MHXA effortlessly makes short work of Saber Alter who has around 3 million HP in 3 TURNS. I guarantee you that you will not get the same results with Buster or Arts servants in that short amount of time unless you use command spells. Quick has beastly potential now thanks to Skadi. That video actually kinda bothers me as it feeds the false hype around Skadi. You can only get these numbers against a Sabeface and with an MHXA who is 1. A Berserker with a high damage multiplier 2. Has an additional damage multiplier against Saberfaces. 3. Is at NP5. Way too many stars have to align to do this kind of damage. This is most definitely FAR from being an applicable solution for Quick's suckiness. Skadi certainly does nothing in the same dimension as this for literally the rest of the cases in the game. I'd definitely put Tamamo above Skadi as a support servant, as every little quirk of her kit directly supports Arts. Skadi's cards are crappy, has an Arts NP and an underwhelming overcharge NP effect. Most of all, unlike with Merlin and Tamamo, you're screwed if the opponent doesn't die due to an Evade/Invincibility/more bars/more waves. Quicks biggest problem is RNG and it's ironic how BB is the one to fix that for them, not Skadi. But hey, at least now I've found a use for these starting 50% NP CEs I never found useful before and now I feel better about that King Hassan quest rerun in the future. Cross your fingers that a heavy hitter Quick Caster that can take full advantage of her in that fight comes out before then, though. Now, that's not to say that Skadi is a bad support, far from it (especially when we have NEEThime), I just don't think that she solves as many problems as she should've. |
astroprogsAug 18, 2018 2:48 PM
| A bit late with this, but: Summer BB profile translation Summer BB MyRoom lines translation If it's now, could I also join the Pharaoh group or could I not, I wonder... Even so, if it's the dark brown skin of egyptians we're speaking of, then I know a wizard-san that would be suitable. Well, let's not go into spoiler territory here. (If you have a Pharaoh Servant) So... Rani Servant incoming? |
| Skadi I absolutely welcome and had no hesitation to max. Not only do I love her character but she made Quick an extreme joy to play. With every newly announced Servants I will be hoping for them to be Quick orientated now. That's quite something for one lovely woman to do. Definitely my new fav Servant this year and grinding to bond 10 asap. On 8 now. Grats on all of everyone's success and rolls. Particularly Shinso. That's pretty impressive for f2p? AirConditioner said: Also that bit about there existing a play where Penthesilea tears apart Achilles limb to limb with her jaws is something I didn't know was a thing before, which is neat that her NP takes inspiration from something like that. Oh my. Not sure I want to picture the hate sex anymore... You got very very lucky. Some people literally have to spend over 900 Quartz to even get 1 SSR. Congrats. Fuck yeah, she my bae. Sion too! Eltnum foreigner! Make it happen! |
| I paid some cash for Okitan, and BB, along with the guaranteed gacha which got me Holmes. So not really f2p. |
| Prisma is 23th...good gried, it could start in a saturday/friday, still better than even earlier in the week. Hope I can pull the event CEs (at least one of 4* one) with just 11 Tickets, those 70 quarts remaining from summer are reserved for Halloween Rerun and Christmass Rerun, that I miss for entering only this year in the game... So, my current party strongest are a Herc lv 66, a Medea NP2, Euryale NP5, Carmilla, Anne&Mary Rider NP2, KintokiRider NP2, Ushi NP3, Saberlot, TamamoSummer and Waver, all on level 60. Also a NP5 David lv 57, Lishuwen lv 52 and a NP2 Caesar level 59. Will likely use the stored x100 gold embers of my Second Archive on Summer Mordred (54), Ruler Martha (lv 59) and Mash (50) to upgrade them to 60 (no medals to go over 60 for Mor). That supposing I dont get something interesting from the gacha... Do you guys think I have a good chance of completing it? Even get Chloe ascension mats, and at least 2 extra copies? 20 Silver Apples and a dozen of Bronze and Silver, and not afraid of using this time... |
| FGO NA Code: 482.072.599 (F2P thug life of savings...) Ben-to! best nonsensical action anime. Ever. |
| To me, the true propose of Skadi is to be a power batterie and allows any servant to spam np back to back. During the summer event particularly, i paired 2 of them with my np3 Melt against MHXX (or any foreigner). Melt was equiped with LB Kaleidoscope. The scénario was 1- buff Melt and debuff foreigner 2- use Melt lb to overjauge (fuck tons of damage and her Np jauge is filled back to 60/70%) 3- recharge Np once 4- restart from step 2 The only time i needed to changé this setup was when BB charge her Np ar turn one. I used lb Kaleidoscope on skadi for her to use her évasive Np. |
| bruh |
Fabris said: I don't remember this event being to difficult, but its been a few years and having under leveled servants will probably make it more difficult. So all I can say is follow the event guides as best you can https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/98gy4q/prisma_codes_event_guide_by_lord_ashura/Prisma is 23th...good gried, it could start in a saturday/friday, still better than even earlier in the week. Hope I can pull the event CEs (at least one of 4* one) with just 11 Tickets, those 70 quarts remaining from summer are reserved for Halloween Rerun and Christmass Rerun, that I miss for entering only this year in the game... So, my current party strongest are a Herc lv 66, a Medea NP2, Euryale NP5, Carmilla, Anne&Mary Rider NP2, KintokiRider NP2, Ushi NP3, Saberlot, TamamoSummer and Waver, all on level 60. Also a NP5 David lv 57, Lishuwen lv 52 and a NP2 Caesar level 59. Will likely use the stored x100 gold embers of my Second Archive on Summer Mordred (54), Ruler Martha (lv 59) and Mash (50) to upgrade them to 60 (no medals to go over 60 for Mor). That supposing I dont get something interesting from the gacha... Do you guys think I have a good chance of completing it? Even get Chloe ascension mats, and at least 2 extra copies? 20 Silver Apples and a dozen of Bronze and Silver, and not afraid of using this time... |
My Queens  |
| So how unlucky do you have to be miss rate up more than once? Pulled OG Artoria while pulling for Squirtoria in NA. 800 quartz no squirtoria. Then pulled Parvati rolling for MHXX. Then pulled Karna in 5 tickets while rolling for Summer BB. Why. |
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lazypigz said: Pulled OG Artoria while pulling for Squirtoria in NA. 800 quartz no squirtoria. Then pulled Parvati rolling for MHXX. Then pulled Karna in 5 tickets while rolling for Summer BB. Why. As someone who has had the same experience back in Summer 2017 (2 Mordred and 2 Enkidu on my journey for NP5 Caster Nero + dozen upon dozen of random 4* Servants just for NP5 Summer Raikou), I am almost convinced the rates were intentionally screwed with to make you spend more. I can't wait for MHXX rate up day to try! Inb4 I exhaust my Quartz savings and DW announces a new Nero Servant for Nero Fest 2018. |
| Last three NeroFests had literally nothing new tho. It's meant to be a low effort event which's purpose is to buy time while they're busy creating the new story chapter and/or Halloween event. There'll probably be nothing new until like mid October which is when I wager we'll get Halloween 2018 or if lucky enough; LB3. |
Genkii said: Np5 Nero? So... how much money did u burn???lazypigz said: Pulled OG Artoria while pulling for Squirtoria in NA. 800 quartz no squirtoria. Then pulled Parvati rolling for MHXX. Then pulled Karna in 5 tickets while rolling for Summer BB. Why. As someone who has had the same experience back in Summer 2017 (2 Mordred and 2 Enkidu on my journey for NP5 Caster Nero + dozen upon dozen of random 4* Servants just for NP5 Summer Raikou), I am almost convinced the rates were intentionally screwed with to make you spend more. I can't wait for MHXX rate up day to try! Inb4 I exhaust my Quartz savings and DW announces a new Nero Servant for Nero Fest 2018. I mean I love Nero, but NP5 holllyyyyyy |
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Genkii said: I am almost convinced the rates were intentionally screwed with to make you spend more. Oh, make no mistake, they do do that. In-game in time of events, browse to the news tab and scroll down 'till you see the rates. DW had some SSRs and SRs be rarer than other SSRs and SRs in the same rate-up. |
| FML I use my last 120sq I pull np2 BB, zerklot and OG banana... No Mhxx Foreigner dont like me |
| bruh |
| FML - 0 pulls NA left 0 pulls JP left Im pretty sure pulling non rate up SSRs is absolute bad luck. 170 quartz left all 10 pulls were absolute minimum. JP - 0 BB 0 MHXX 1 Medb 1 Karna (why) 1 Parvati (why) game really loves to give me AOE lancers... NA - NP2 Martha Ruler NP2 Marie NP1 OG Seiba (why) Yes I asked for a Sakuraface, but I also asked for it to be drawn by Wada Arco -_-. Huhhhhhhh August was not a good month for pulls for me. Also, is raising Parvati better than raising Karna if I pulled Skadi? |
lazypigzAug 19, 2018 9:13 AM
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| Karna pair well with merlin i pulled another 8 10-roll Got NP5 Moedred and Helena. BB and mordred are here but but i feel empty because MHX is my favorite servant :( ill have to wait 1 year for summer rerun now.... |
| bruh |
Skadi will allow you the 3-turn spam with Parvati for the "hit hard, hit fast" wave fights. Karna will last longer for the more slow burn fights with Merlin. You can't go wrong with either, but I recommend raising Parvati first to get that wave clear option ASAP. |
astroprogsAug 19, 2018 10:32 AM
lazypigz said: Also, is raising Parvati better than raising Karna if I pulled Skadi? I don't think so — Karna has much bigger base atk, got NP strengthening and deals bigger damage to divine servants, which aren't that rare (arjuna, herc, kintoki, raiko etc). |
dark_ogamiya said: lazypigz said: Also, is raising Parvati better than raising Karna if I pulled Skadi? I don't think so — Karna has much bigger base atk, got NP strengthening and deals bigger damage to divine servants, which aren't that rare (arjuna, herc, kintoki, raiko etc). Assuming he has a servant to use him to the fullest like Waver or Merlin. Otherwise he should go for Parvati considering he has Skadi. |
| Since May i have completed Moedred and OG jeanne NP5 So far i got all the non limited or story locked saberface to NP5 I am still mad and salty about wasting 810 SQ for no MHXX... |
| bruh |
AirConditioner said: Last three NeroFests had literally nothing new tho. It's meant to be a low effort event which's purpose is to buy time while they're busy creating the new story chapter and/or Halloween event. Oh cool, that mean's I can spend some saved up Quartz for this Summer banner. Lets just say more than enough to buy a new high end tablet. Okay, today's a safe day to roll without fear of the pink diseased thot appearing. [103 Quartz] [First 10 roll] [Remaining Quartz: 73] MHXX: Hello, Master of Earth. I am Codename: XX. Me: Oh, this is definitely a good sign. Maybe I should spend some money and get BB too. [Second 10 roll] [Get's 3 Musashi CE] [Remaining Quartz: 43] Me: Could have been worse but not bad. [Last 10 roll] [Remaining Quartz: 13] Nitocris: Servant, Caster. I shall acknowledge you as a partne- Beowulf: Servant, Berserker. Well then, let's beat some things up, Mast- -Immediate burning- -Screams of anguish and suffering from the two are heard- 5/5 Nitocris: ...I feel a little uncomfortable watching myself burn and turned into mana prisms... 5/5 Beowulf: This is some mad fucked up shit you're making me witness. Me: Hahaha, yeah fuck you DW. I'm glad I spent $0 this banner! -sweats nervously- |
| H-how many years has it been...? Also, fuck you Astro and your 4 Summer Servants. Lucky bastard. |
The sun is a deadly laser |
| My "bad" luck on both servers officially ended today. 6 quartz, 2 pulls, Squirtoria finally came home after 816 SQ on NA. As for JP... MHXX I'm definitely coming back for you when 3 quartz. Also I think Parvati might be better because I don't have Memelin or Waver, and from my experience I personally don't like playing Karna without Kscope for farming. |
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| man >comes back after 4 days >see the 2 new people who joined this hell pull the fcking rarest servant in the entire game why even live |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
Genkii said: pink diseased thot diseased Golden Rule (Body): A She possesses a perfect goddess-like body since birth. No matter how many calories she absorbs, even her figure will not change. One more victory for Medb. Truly the miracle of the universe. |
AirConditioner said: Golden Rule (Body): A She possesses a perfect goddess-like body since birth. -stares long and hard at Summer Medb's art.- I... I dunno about this one fam... That aside, MHXX is an absolute thrill to play with. Her animations and voice lines are just so fun. It's like watching your daughter having the time of her life being silly. |
| Just a case of a somewhat trashy artist being designated to her It's the Atalanta syndrome Amazing design suffers in official sources due to bad artist choice https://hijiribe.donmai.us/data/__medb_fate_grand_order_and_fate_series_drawn_by_shimo_s_kaminaka__c31e70344a405b8e412622ef7befdafe.jpg https://hijiribe.donmai.us/data/__medb_fate_grand_order_and_fate_series_drawn_by_shimo_s_kaminaka__4b61a152d56dc6dfe936208a7698fff5.jpg https://hijiribe.donmai.us/data/__medb_fate_grand_order_and_fate_series_drawn_by_shimo_s_kaminaka__f8b5c43769678fb8501426ee17a74aa7.jpg https://danbooru.donmai.us/data/__medb_fate_grand_order_and_fate_series_drawn_by_chan_co__b85c68df4c92c1a27af58463bce6ce8e.jpg ^ See, now this is Golden Rule (Body): A indeed. Tho Atalanta and Medb's artists still deserve the praise for designing them. It's just the ''drawing'' part should have been left to someone else. |
| To grail or not grail MHXX. It will be a shame if she become obsolete when more Foreigner are released. |
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KaiserNazrin said: To grail or not grail MHXX. It will be a shame if she become obsolete when more Foreigner are released. dood, unless those forigners come without the trait of threat to humanity i srsly doubt mhx will become obsolete |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
ShinsoPriest said: dark_ogamiya said: I don't think so — Karna has much bigger base atk, got NP strengthening and deals bigger damage to divine servants, which aren't that rare (arjuna, herc, kintoki, raiko etc). Assuming he has a servant to use him to the fullest like Waver or Merlin. Otherwise he should go for Parvati considering he has Skadi. He could easily use a Memelin or Waver from friend list. Inb4 double Skadi — it wouldn't work great in difficult missions, because Skadi is lack of defence skills. Only one she could pull of is evasion on her NP, which is great, but still sometimes hard to cast, especially if you concentrate on charging your Parvati. Karna on other hand could deal a huge NP and crit damage, because of his skills and base damage (which is highest among lancers — his 11,976 against Parvati's 8,127). |
added you 2 things do euryale's interlude, it will boost her NP damage congrats on getting the most meme servant in the game also next summer banner is 23rd, its the illya banner Shayon said: Illya event on the 23rd apparently Man, this is bad timing for me, I would've skipped it if not for the welfare. and there's also no rerun, =/ so F for you bby Mirai said: Where the fuck are my summer KotR costumes DW?!?! never Veromaye said: If someone wants to add me to help me out somehow this is my FC 299,177,468 I'm lacking a good Lancer, I got Hektor but Hektor is meh, I mean id rather wait and get Cu. My current party. If anyone has suggestions of what to do I will appreciate it a lot uwu. I'm trying to level up my female servants for the Kaleid event so I can get Kuro hektor and cu serve 2 different roles anyways, Cu is an unkillable dog that can solo bosses and hektor is more of a support role and wave clearer with his aoe np if you still cant get cu somehow which can happen believe me you'll get a free decent lancer during christmas anyways so no worry also added you Fabris said: Prisma is 23th...good gried, it could start in a saturday/friday, still better than even earlier in the week. Hope I can pull the event CEs (at least one of 4* one) with just 11 Tickets, those 70 quarts remaining from summer are reserved for Halloween Rerun and Christmass Rerun, that I miss for entering only this year in the game... So, my current party strongest are a Herc lv 66, a Medea NP2, Euryale NP5, Carmilla, Anne&Mary Rider NP2, KintokiRider NP2, Ushi NP3, Saberlot, TamamoSummer and Waver, all on level 60. Also a NP5 David lv 57, Lishuwen lv 52 and a NP2 Caesar level 59. Will likely use the stored x100 gold embers of my Second Archive on Summer Mordred (54), Ruler Martha (lv 59) and Mash (50) to upgrade them to 60 (no medals to go over 60 for Mor). That supposing I dont get something interesting from the gacha... Do you guys think I have a good chance of completing it? Even get Chloe ascension mats, and at least 2 extra copies? 20 Silver Apples and a dozen of Bronze and Silver, and not afraid of using this time... most, if not all events on NA start on thursday =/ so no worries summer part 2 is an exception not the illya event but i completed the fate/zero event, with mostly lv 40s-50s, and only 1 4 star. considering its actually easier to get the mats for kuro in this event, unlike in f/z and mind you i started f/z 1 week later you're fine worst come to worst, you will max get 2 extra copy advice is lvl martha and mashuu |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
KaiserNazrin said: To grail or not grail MHXX. It will be a shame if she become obsolete when more Foreigner are released. Grail if you love her, the utility comes next. And DW don't use powercreep tactic, so you could rest assured that she would be useful years later. Yeah, right now. But we would get one eventually, just like KnK collab rerun. |
dark_ogamiyaAug 20, 2018 4:15 AM
Cleared the final optional quest in the first try. Was surprisingly easy with this party. @Genkii Man, Archer Jeanne is way better than I initially thought. I'm having a lot of fun using her with Tamamo and Kuro. After using Archer Jeanne more and more, I now wholeheartedly recommend NP5'ing her. She's a magnificent spammer, probably the best AoE spammer in the game at the moment, certainly better than Summer Mordred. Her one issue is the relatively low NP damage, but that's fixable with NP5. mira-pyon said: H-how many years has it been...?  Welcome back :D mira-pyon said: Also, fuck you Astro and your 4 Summer Servants. Lucky bastard. To be honest, I'm just as perplexed as you are lol. dark_ogamiya said: ShinsoPriest said: Assuming he has a servant to use him to the fullest like Waver or Merlin. Otherwise he should go for Parvati considering he has Skadi. He could easily use a Memelin or Waver from friend list. Inb4 double Skadi — it wouldn't work great in difficult missions, because Skadi is lack of defense skills. Only one she could pull of is evasion on her NP, which is great, but still sometimes hard to cast, especially if you concentrate on charging your Parvati. Karna on other hand could deal a huge NP and crit damage, because of his skills and base damage (which is highest among lancers — his 11,976 against Parvati's 8,127). You're really missing the difference Skadi makes to the importance of the likes of Parvati. Farming is the much MUCH frequent use scenario of AoE Servants in the game, so while Karna has way better numbers over Parvati, he's shit at farming due to his below average NP gain and hit count. He's the better choice in the hard fights and boss waves, but these are so few and far between, Parvati's value becomes more prevalent. He should raise both, but Parvati should take the priority because he'll just use her that much more. To understand this more, take a look at Nitocris and how she's considered a greatly valuable Servant in the game despite how she sucks at doing everything, including doing good damage, except for that little skill that allows her to get her NP from 0% to 100% on-demand. Spamming is the more valuable trait in the current meta and all the support Servants have that variation of NP gain quirk for a reason. |
astroprogsAug 20, 2018 6:23 AM
| I would grail to lvl100 and 10/10/10 Mhxx imediately... If i pull her OwO. Just end the event. Finished the challenge in no brain mode with Raikou NP3, double merlin, 3 CS and MHX+Skaki just for Rin. |
| bruh |
astroprogs said: dark_ogamiya said: He could easily use a Memelin or Waver from friend list. Inb4 double Skadi — it wouldn't work great in difficult missions, because Skadi is lack of defense skills. Only one she could pull of is evasion on her NP, which is great, but still sometimes hard to cast, especially if you concentrate on charging your Parvati. Karna on other hand could deal a huge NP and crit damage, because of his skills and base damage (which is highest among lancers — his 11,976 against Parvati's 8,127). You're really missing the difference Skadi makes to the importance of the likes of Parvati. Farming is the much MUCH frequent use scenario of AoE Servants in the game, so while Karna has way better numbers over Parvati, he's shit at farming due to his below average NP gain and hit count. He's the better choice in the hard fights and boss waves, but these are so few and far between, Parvati's value becomes more prevalent. He should raise both, but Parvati should take the priority because he'll just use her that much more. To understand this more, take a look at Nitocris and how she's considered a greatly valuable Servant in the game despite how she sucks at doing everything, including doing good damage, except for that little skill that allows her to get her NP from 0% to 100% on-demand. Spamming is the more valuable trait in the current meta and all the support Servants have that variation of NP gain quirk for a reason. Nitocris is valuable because of huge np battery on 2nd skill. And this is why I think Karna is better in farm than Parvati — his 3rd skill has 25% np battery. It means that you can launch his np with non LB kaleidoscope, or if you use Merlin, with imaginary number magecraft. If you need to farm with Parvati and double Skadi, you would need to max their skills, which is not an easy task, especially if he's not a veteran player. On the other hand, Karna's 3rd skill would give you 25% NP battery no matter the level. And there's no need to clear all waves with 1 servant — you could use Arash, Spartacus, Bunyan etc for clearing of 1st/2nd wave and save your main DD for the last "boss". |
| @kei78 I doubt you will be able to max all her skills immediately considering the new materials she need. Maxing BB is far easier. Oh well, I'll grail her because she look like Alice(same artist,same features). Also her My Room lines are amusing. |
Kaiser-chanAug 20, 2018 7:00 AM
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| Beat summer challenge quest with this team imho it's not that hard. And now I want to try to clear it with Sherlock/Jeannu (ruler)/Florence team. |
dark_ogamiya said: astroprogs said: You're really missing the difference Skadi makes to the importance of the likes of Parvati. Farming is the much MUCH frequent use scenario of AoE Servants in the game, so while Karna has way better numbers over Parvati, he's shit at farming due to his below average NP gain and hit count. He's the better choice in the hard fights and boss waves, but these are so few and far between, Parvati's value becomes more prevalent. He should raise both, but Parvati should take the priority because he'll just use her that much more. To understand this more, take a look at Nitocris and how she's considered a greatly valuable Servant in the game despite how she sucks at doing everything, including doing good damage, except for that little skill that allows her to get her NP from 0% to 100% on-demand. Spamming is the more valuable trait in the current meta and all the support Servants have that variation of NP gain quirk for a reason. Nitocris is valuable because of huge np battery on 2nd skill. And this is why I think Karna is better in farm than Parvati — his 3rd skill has 25% np battery. It means that you can launch his np with non LB kaleidoscope, or if you use Merlin, with imaginary number magecraft. If you need to farm with Parvati and double Skadi, you would need to max their skills, which is not an easy task, especially if he's not a veteran player. On the other hand, Karna's 3rd skill would give you 25% NP battery no matter the level. And there's no need to clear all waves with 1 servant — you could use Arash, Spartacus, Bunyan etc for clearing of 1st/2nd wave and save your main DD for the last "boss". The keywords weren't "launching the NP", but "spamming the NP". Yeah, you could use the likes of Arash and Bunyan, but you'd be forced to use up their Servant slots for a one time use and CE slot for NP CEs, when you could use a double Skadi for those 2 open event CE slots and use 2 servants that can crit and deal damage perfectly fine on their own. If you have a Skadi, you're going to max her skills anyway, so that's not a big deal. As for Parvati, you barely even need the first one, thanks to her NP giving a free NP refund. In tun, you get a more flexibale Servant that saves you a lot of time, bad Servant choices when something unexpected happens and CE slots when farming. |
astroprogsAug 20, 2018 7:10 AM
astroprogs said: dark_ogamiya said: Nitocris is valuable because of huge np battery on 2nd skill. And this is why I think Karna is better in farm than Parvati — his 3rd skill has 25% np battery. It means that you can launch his np with non LB kaleidoscope, or if you use Merlin, with imaginary number magecraft. If you need to farm with Parvati and double Skadi, you would need to max their skills, which is not an easy task, especially if he's not a veteran player. On the other hand, Karna's 3rd skill would give you 25% NP battery no matter the level. And there's no need to clear all waves with 1 servant — you could use Arash, Spartacus, Bunyan etc for clearing of 1st/2nd wave and save your main DD for the last "boss". The keywords weren't "launching the NP", but "spamming the NP". Yeah, you could use the likes of Arash and Bunyan, but you'd be forced to use up their Servant slots for a one time use and CE slot for NP CEs, when you could use a double Skadi for those 2 open event CE slots and use 2 servants that can crit and deal damage perfectly fine on their own. If you have a Skadi, you're going to max her skills anyway, so that's not a big deal. As for Parvati, you barely even need the first one, thanks to her NP giving a free NP refund. In tun, you get a more flexibale Servant that saves you a lot of time, bad Servant choices when something unexpected happens and CE slots when farming. I was talking about farming in general, farming events with event CE is different story. "The keywords wasn't "launching the NP", but "spamming the NP" Why did you mentioned Nitocris then? She's good at launching, not spamming NP. "you'd be wasting 2 Servant slots for deadweight instead of 2 servants that can crit and deal damage perfectly fine on their own." Their role aren't DD, but fast clear of 1st/2nd waves. "If you have a Skadi, you're going to max her skills anyway" Yeah, if you got to 2nd lostbelt. And even then, you need to farm those new mats, which is not a quick task. Plus 48 of dust per skill... "As for Parvati, you barely even need the first one, thanks to her NP giving a free NP refund" Without 1st skill I got less than 50% np after using her NP. And yeah, that strategy based on luck — if you got none of Parvati cards on 3rd turn or none quick cards, then she won't be able to clear it (in case there's servant with around 200k HP). So, to conclude my opinion — parvati with double skadi is good for experienced players, that got enough mats/QPs to max out their Skadi. Plus it's based on luck and sometimes you won't be able to clear quest in 3 turns. On a brighter side, you would be able to use more servants with event CE, in exchange for time. If you would farm with arash/spartacus/bunyan/karna/memelin, than you would have higher chance to clear quest in 3 turns, but you would sacrifice your event CE. |
| @dark_ogamiya Well, farming events is generally what counts the most, because there are a plethora of options to farm dailies and I wouldn't be recommending raising a 4* to farm dailies in particular anyway. > Why did you mentioned Nitocris then? She's good at launching, not spamming NP. Because Nitocris with a Kaleidoscope can spam her NP twice in two consecutive turns, which is awesome for farming. > Their role aren't DD, but fast clear of 1st/2nd waves. In event quests, the final wave usually has a boss with big HP bar. Skadi criting herself helps finish that boss faster. > Yeah, if you got to 2nd lostbelt. And even then, you need to farm those new mats, which is not a quick task. Plus 48 of dust per skill... Ah, you're right, I didn't take that into account. Though, I'm assuming that there are very few newcomers on the JP side who'd be participating in English speaking communities. From what I'm seeing, people here and on the subreddit are either veterans or NA players who have no access to either Skadi or Parvati at the moment. > Without 1st skill I got less than 50% np after using her NP. And yeah, that strategy based on luck — if you got none of Parvati cards on 3rd turn or none quick cards, then she won't be able to clear it (in case there's servant with around 200k HP). Relatively low damage on Parvati is the downside for the spam strategy, which is what a double Skadi would help a lot with. > So, to conclude my opinion — parvati with double skadi is good for experienced players, that got enough mats/QPs to max out their Skadi. Plus it's based on luck and sometimes you won't be able to clear quest in 3 turns. On a brigher side, you would be able to use more servants with event CE, in exchange for time. I don't think I disagree with any of this, actually. > If you would farm with arash/spartacus/bunyan/karna/memelin, than you would have higher chance to clear quest in 3 turns, but you would sacrifice your event CE. Other than that you shouldn't assume that Karna would be able to clear the third wave solely using his NP, I don't disagree with this either. |
| @astroprogs >Other than that you shouldn't assume that Karna would be able to clear the third wave solely using his NP, I don't disagree with this either. Well, I was able to do it with Karna's 1/4/1 skills and Merlin support, when I was facing divine servants, which is not that rare — Gigamesh, Arjuna, Ishtar, Chiron etc. Plus he got better chances to finish his target, because his crit up is not tied to one type of card and lasts for 3T. Not to mention 3T buster down after NP. |
dark_ogamiya said: @astroprogs >Other than that you shouldn't assume that Karna would be able to clear the third wave solely using his NP, I don't disagree with this either. Well, I was able to do it with Karna's 1/4/1 skills and Merlin support, when I was facing divine servants, which is not that rare — Gigamesh, Arjuna, Ishtar, Chiron etc. Plus he got better chances to finish his target, because his crit up is not tied to one type of card and lasts for 3T. Not to mention 3T buster down after NP. Well, I don't doubt that Karna's damage is awesome, but let's put accurate numbers on it to account for all scenarios of use. Karna's NP damage at lvl90, NP1 and 1K fous: 12,976 * 1.05 * 1.2 * 2.3 * 4.2 = 157,939 Karna's NP damage at lvl90, NP1 and 1K fous + Divinity trait buff: 12,976 * 1.05 * 1.2 * 2.3 * 5.7 = 214,345 When all the stars align for Karna AKA Karna's NP damage at lvl100, NP5, and 2K fous + Divinity trait buff: 15,110 * 1.05 * 1.2 * 2.3 * 7.7 = 337,174 (These calculations account for Lancer's class multiplier and Merlin's buffs against neutral enemies) Now, consider that the exact number of Servants with Divinity trait is 56 Servants from the ~200 Servants we have in the game. That's ~25%. Taking into account that golden Servants have the higher probability of having that trait and they're the more likely to be the final wave and would certainly have more than a 25% chance of appearing, that boss doesn't have to be a Servant, as it can be any mob, so that 25% could stand as an educated assumption. Getting back to the numbers, the most powerful Karna you can ever raise in the game (not counting CE's additional effects, since you'll be using a starting NP CE anyway) will deal 337,174 points of damage against 3 neutral enemies. This means ~112k per enemy. This is a lot, but not enough to kill that final wave event boss who usually has HP in the ballpark of 150~250k HP. This means that you'll need to rely on the most powerful Karna you can ever have, facing Divine enemies, relying on RNG and having at least one Buster card in the deck to finish off the 150k boss in one turn. While against Archers that Karna would absolutely wreck, no questions against, against neutral enemies, you'll still be going into an additional turn if RNG doesn't have your back. |
astroprogsAug 20, 2018 9:12 AM
| For those interested, here's a chart of Servants that were confirmed and have yet to appear in FGO as playable Note that not everyone in the ''Other Series'' section will necessary be playable. |
| Idk but im scared Prilliya reruns gonna come soon and bring Miyu as a player character. Or maybe im just paranoid bc im literally at 0 quartz pulling for MHXX (and not getting her). Pls no, i love miyu and im not rdy |
_____________________________________________ わためはわるくないよね～～～ ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ _____________________________________________ GFL NA: 151141 | FGO NA: 622,135,030 FGO JP: 028,976,814 | Magia Record JP: rzMsBapp ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ |
| Wait, when were any of the Prillya characters confirmed? And regular Ishtar for that matter? Though, would definitely murder for Kazuradrop, Violet, and Kingprotea. lazypigz said: Idk but im scared Prilliya reruns gonna come soon and bring Miyu as a player character. Or maybe im just paranoid bc im literally at 0 quartz pulling for MHXX (and not getting her). Pls no, i love miyu and im not rdy Oh man, I'm in the same boat. Suddenly those 4 Summer Servants I got feel like a bait. I mean, Summer Jeanne is a treasure I'll never regret rolling, but I want Miyu so bad, even more than Illya. Please, pleasepleaseplease don't do the rerun any time soon, DW. |
astroprogs said: Wait, when were any of the Prillya characters confirmed? And regular Ishtar for that matter? Though, would definitely murder for Kazuradrop, Violet, and Kingprotea. AirConditioner said: Note that not everyone in the ''Other Series'' section will necessary be playable. That's the only section that's kinda unsure on who will appear until an actual solid confirmation (though some of them are blatantly obvious like SF crew, Extella crew, Koha ace crew, etc.). It's mostly based on Nasu's initial statement that he'd like to eventually add all the Servants from the other Fate/ works. Miyu will probably be added as a gatcha Servant the same way Fujino was during KnK rerun tbh |
Oh right... If anyone wants to help me out for Summer 2018 event bc BB wouldn't come home, my friend code is 028,976,814. Pls don't roast I started JP like a couple weeks ago Also... how do I beat final boss BB she seems kinda hard. I have no summer ruler to melt BB with :( |
lazypigzAug 20, 2018 9:52 AM
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AirConditioner said: astroprogs said: Wait, when were any of the Prillya characters confirmed? And regular Ishtar for that matter? Though, would definitely murder for Kazuradrop, Violet, and Kingprotea. AirConditioner said: Note that not everyone in the ''Other Series'' section will necessary be playable. That's the only section that's kinda unsure on who will appear until an actual solid confirmation (though some of them are blatantly obvious like SF crew, Extella crew, Koha ace crew, etc.). It's mostly based on Nasu's initial statement that he'd like to eventually add all the Servants from the other Fate/ works. Miyu will probably be added as a gatcha Servant the same way Fujino was during KnK rerun tbh Oh man, I hope so. She's my most wanted Servant in the game at the moment, even more than Shirou. lazypigz said: Also... how do I beat final boss BB she seems kinda hard. I have no summer ruler to melt BB with :( Sure, I'll add you. I have NP4 lvl90 Martha Ruler, so you can use her if you want. Also, post your Servant inventory. |
| My JP account has EX rank luck with CEs. Kaleido, Kiara CE, 2030 got em all. Meanwhile on NA I've got like 3 5* gacha CE lul. At least I get them SSR servants :yay: |
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