osieorb18 said: I'm super dubious of "Miller 1-shot Neighbourizer" in a game with an IC Doublevoter. That is not how proper balance works. read the rules |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
Ruu said: sorry but no vote: Riku and Abuh should shoot Ruu tbh...osieorb18 said: As far as I know, there's no mafia etiquette reason that you can't tell his role if you believe as you said that it provides no particular benefit to scum over town. There could be a role reason, though that would be strange. Well... @Riku: Partial claims are scummy unless there's a very good reason for them. Outside of miller, do you have anything else to claim? @Ruu: If @Riku doesn't claim in, say, 8 hours, if you're town, you should probably out what you believe his role to be if he doesn't have a good reason for not claiming. I'll at least be awake before/around deadline and for the rest of the IRL day and we can hash it out at that point. @Re1031: That might be enough on the Riku claim for the moment until he actually fullclaims or doesn't. @abhutrash: Maybe shoot whichever of Iron/Karot we don't lynch to give us the extra lynch before scum kills you? Thoughts? mmmm okay... since I don't want to keep wasting everybody's time with this... I think is better for PoE to just say it. Sorry Riku! But I think is for the best >//< Riku is a Neighborizer and he chose me on N1. The fact that now we are neighbours makes me doubt Shin's claim (and yoour ofc) because having Neighbours + masons on the same games seems odd. is like having 4 conf towns (if we take IC into account). |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
| So just to get this straight: Pre-game: logic chooses Shinichi to mason with. What needs to be confirmed is whether Shinichi roleblocked Ruu or not. Day 2: Riku uses one-shot neighborizer on Ruu. @riku Can you explain in detail how your ability works (when can it be activated, how long it lasts)? Because I was under the assumption you chatted with Ruu at night. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Ruu said: At this point we can find scum with PoE. I claimed because it will help find the real scum also if Shin is in fact a town rb then I have nothing to fear - I will protect myself tonight with my other shot and it will work because Shin won't block me now. @lastwhisper31 shoot osie and we will lynch Riku sounds good? Shin can't rb during the day so we are good. Gladiator means you are reduced to lynching him or me, no? He can do that day 3, though. Riku's alignment is pretty high up there on my "list of things to clear up" right now, since he claimed a role that recently has more often been seen on scum than town. The wiki article was written in 2011, when it was more often town than scum. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
riku said: 5. just because i dont explain my reasons doesnt mean they are always omgus :) You literally quoted my vote in your post with no other explanation. That's textbook OMGUS. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
RE1031 said: a night ability, use the ability to be in a neighbourhood with someone until one of us dies.So just to get this straight: Pre-game: logic chooses Shinichi to mason with. What needs to be confirmed is whether Shinichi roleblocked Ruu or not. Day 2: Riku uses one-shot neighborizer on Ruu. @riku Can you explain in detail how your ability works (when can it be activated, how long it lasts)? Because I was under the assumption you chatted with Ruu at night. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
osieorb18 said: riku said: 5. just because i dont explain my reasons doesnt mean they are always omgus :) You literally quoted my vote in your post with no other explanation. That's textbook OMGUS. osieorb18 said: noperiku said: 5. just because i dont explain my reasons doesnt mean they are always omgus :) You literally quoted my vote in your post with no other explanation. That's textbook OMGUS. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
| I'm scimming cause I'm at work... So I only know up to what I'm qouting, I'll have a better understanding of the situation once I get home |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
RE1031 said: So just to get this straight: Pre-game: logic chooses Shinichi to mason with. What needs to be confirmed is whether Shinichi roleblocked Ruu or not. Day 2: Riku uses one-shot neighborizer on Ruu. @riku Can you explain in detail how your ability works (when can it be activated, how long it lasts)? Because I was under the assumption you chatted with Ruu at night. @RE1031: They are saying the neighbourizer starts at beginning of the next Day. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
osieorb18 said: where? @ruu and sometimes they pick, not always thoughRE1031 said: Then Shinichi should have had another role prior. This is confusing. He did claim in chat. Roleblocker. |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
lastwhisper31 said: osieorb18 said: where? @ruu and sometimes they pick, not always thoughHe did claim in chat. Roleblocker. Mason chat. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
riku said: osieorb18 said: You literally quoted my vote in your post with no other explanation. That's textbook OMGUS. osieorb18 said: nopeYou literally quoted my vote in your post with no other explanation. That's textbook OMGUS. That's not an argument, that's just contradiction! |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
| no it isnt |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
| no it isnt |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
| @Ruu You didn't answer the question that @Re1031 and I both posed to you: Why are you assuming that @riku is a pro-town neighbourizer? What about what he has said in chat or done otherwise is convincing you that it's specifically town? A scum neighbourizer claiming miller neighbourizer is a perfect way for scum to have a claim that can't be proven. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
| now osies going in circles... |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
You just contradicted me! |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
no i didnt |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
riku said: now osies going in circles... How? By asking that someone answer a very reasonable question that myself and another probable town asked her? Jeez, you're scummy. Your posts might as well just be saying "ur rong" every time. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
osieorb18 said: riku said: now osies going in circles... How? By asking that someone answer a very reasonable question that myself and another probable town asked her? Jeez, you're scummy. Your posts might as well just be saying "ur rong" every time. no they arent |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
You did, just then! |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
riku said: osieorb18 said: How? By asking that someone answer a very reasonable question that myself and another probable town asked her? Jeez, you're scummy. Your posts might as well just be saying "ur rong" every time. no they arent Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
lastwhisper31 said: Why do you think Abuh should shoot Ruu?Ruu said: sorry but no vote: Riku and Abuh should shoot Ruu tbh...mmmm okay... since I don't want to keep wasting everybody's time with this... I think is better for PoE to just say it. Sorry Riku! But I think is for the best >//< Riku is a Neighborizer and he chose me on N1. The fact that now we are neighbours makes me doubt Shin's claim (and yoour ofc) because having Neighbours + masons on the same games seems odd. is like having 4 conf towns (if we take IC into account). |
Pokeit said: Why do you think Abuh should shoot Ruu? I agree with this question, @lastwhisper31. Why Ruu? Why not Iron or Karot? |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
osieorb18 said: One of the reasons I'm voting Ruu over Riku now. I don't like how easily she bought that it was a pro-town role.@Ruu You didn't answer the question that @Re1031 and I both posed to you: Why are you assuming that @riku is a pro-town neighbourizer? What about what he has said in chat or done otherwise is convincing you that it's specifically town? A scum neighbourizer claiming miller neighbourizer is a perfect way for scum to have a claim that can't be proven. Other reason being how easily she gave up she was doctor. Like she would rather hide behind a claim or clear herself through it rather than use the role to the most potential. Granted, it is a pretty townie claim. But protecting herself? Talking about night actions in the thread so openly? Doesn't seem pro-town to me. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
RE1031 said: One of the reasons I'm voting Ruu over Riku now. I don't like how easily she bought that it was a pro-town role. Other reason being how easily she gave up she was doctor. Like she would rather hide behind a claim or clear herself through it rather than use the role to the most potential. Granted, it is a pretty townie claim. But protecting herself? Talking about night actions in the thread so openly? Doesn't seem pro-town to me. I don't think we lynch the claimed doc, though. And besides, Ruu looks like sadtown flaily, whereas Riku looks more and more like scum each time he opens his mouth. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
osieorb18 said: RE1031 said: One of the reasons I'm voting Ruu over Riku now. I don't like how easily she bought that it was a pro-town role. Other reason being how easily she gave up she was doctor. Like she would rather hide behind a claim or clear herself through it rather than use the role to the most potential. Granted, it is a pretty townie claim. But protecting herself? Talking about night actions in the thread so openly? Doesn't seem pro-town to me. I don't think we lynch the claimed doc, though. And besides, Ruu looks like sadtown flaily, whereas Riku looks more and more like scum each time he opens his mouth. Riku also claimed miller and there's no cop claim to support a miller being in the game. That looks kinda bad. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
osieorb18 said: Okay, I hate this reasoning lol. Cause cop should most certainly not claim solely to prove that miller could exist in this set up.osieorb18 said: I don't think we lynch the claimed doc, though. And besides, Ruu looks like sadtown flaily, whereas Riku looks more and more like scum each time he opens his mouth. Riku also claimed miller and there's no cop claim to support a miller being in the game. That looks kinda bad. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
RE1031 said: osieorb18 said: Okay, I hate this reasoning lol. Cause cop should most certainly not claim solely to prove that miller could exist in this set up.Riku also claimed miller and there's no cop claim to support a miller being in the game. That looks kinda bad. You have a point, that probably wasn't great wording. But I don't believe that anyone has even suggested that a miller makes sense, which brings me pause. My main point is that miller is unconfirmable, just as much as his alignment is. His early game play also was somewhat scummy. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
osieorb18 said: And possibly, but I'll wait for an answer before coming to a final conclusion.RE1031 said: One of the reasons I'm voting Ruu over Riku now. I don't like how easily she bought that it was a pro-town role. Other reason being how easily she gave up she was doctor. Like she would rather hide behind a claim or clear herself through it rather than use the role to the most potential. Granted, it is a pretty townie claim. But protecting herself? Talking about night actions in the thread so openly? Doesn't seem pro-town to me. I don't think we lynch the claimed doc, though. And besides, Ruu looks like sadtown flaily, whereas Riku looks more and more like scum each time he opens his mouth. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
RE1031 said: osieorb18 said: And possibly, but I'll wait for an answer before coming to a final conclusion.I don't think we lynch the claimed doc, though. And besides, Ruu looks like sadtown flaily, whereas Riku looks more and more like scum each time he opens his mouth. I support this plan. Outside of the whole Ruu/Riku shenanigans, what do your reads look like? I'm liking you, LW and Scarlet, relatively positive on Abhu and Ruu. Need to see more from Denja, not happy with what I've seen from Riku, Iron, or Karote. EDIT: Shin and Pokeit are Conftown for me. |
osieorb18Jan 27, 2018 3:45 PM
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
osieorb18 said: Denja is too much "xDD," which I don't really like. I wouldn't miss Riku, I just recognize this attitude as his town game from Sweets (though I haven't seen his scum game) so I won't be expecting too much from that. I'm going to reread Karote and Iron, but I did get a better impression of Karote over Iron for his interactions with Riku. They felt like back and forth trying to prove a point, which I think is more common from town. I literally do not recall anything good from Iron except him unvoting logic (I think?) and I want to question the people who backed off you and Shinichi because until your more recent posts (which I'm finding town-motivated), I was still pretty skeptical of your claims.RE1031 said: And possibly, but I'll wait for an answer before coming to a final conclusion. I support this plan. Outside of the whole Ruu/Riku shenanigans, what do your reads look like? I'm liking you, LW and Scarlet, relatively positive on Abhu and Ruu. Need to see more from Denja, not happy with what I've seen from Riku, Iron, or Karote. Scarlet is someone I'm going to keep in the gray territory until I see more, since I don't agree with her read on last. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
RE1031 said: Denja is too much "xDD," which I don't really like. I wouldn't miss Riku, I just recognize this attitude as his town game from Sweets (though I haven't seen his scum game) so I won't be expecting too much from that. I'm going to reread Karote and Iron, but I did get a better impression of Karote over Iron for his interactions with Riku. They felt like back and forth trying to prove a point, which I think is more common from town. I literally do not recall anything good from Iron except him unvoting logic (I think?) and I want to question the people who backed off you and Shinichi because until your more recent posts (which I'm finding town-motivated), I was still pretty skeptical of your claims. Scarlet is someone I'm going to keep in the gray territory until I see more, since I don't agree with her read on last. Fair. Man, I'm so used to an ISO function, so having to go through page by page is... different. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
osieorb18 said: Yeah, it's not fun lol. I think some people find it easier to reread everyone as a whole, but ISO features are super useful, especially when it's time to present a case.RE1031 said: Denja is too much "xDD," which I don't really like. I wouldn't miss Riku, I just recognize this attitude as his town game from Sweets (though I haven't seen his scum game) so I won't be expecting too much from that. I'm going to reread Karote and Iron, but I did get a better impression of Karote over Iron for his interactions with Riku. They felt like back and forth trying to prove a point, which I think is more common from town. I literally do not recall anything good from Iron except him unvoting logic (I think?) and I want to question the people who backed off you and Shinichi because until your more recent posts (which I'm finding town-motivated), I was still pretty skeptical of your claims. Scarlet is someone I'm going to keep in the gray territory until I see more, since I don't agree with her read on last. Fair. Man, I'm so used to an ISO function, so having to go through page by page is... different. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
RE1031 said: osieorb18 said: Yeah, it's not fun lol. I think some people find it easier to reread everyone as a whole, but ISO features are super useful, especially when it's time to present a case.Fair. Man, I'm so used to an ISO function, so having to go through page by page is... different. I'm relying on making quicknotes for now and then I can go back to posts as needed. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
osieorb18 said: spur of the moment thing, in my head at that moment it sounded like they, Ruu and Riku, we're scum buddies... LolPokeit said: Why do you think Abuh should shoot Ruu? I agree with this question, @lastwhisper31. Why Ruu? Why not Iron or Karot? |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
lastwhisper31 said: osieorb18 said: spur of the moment thing, in my head at that moment it sounded like they, Ruu and Riku, we're scum buddies... LolI agree with this question, @lastwhisper31. Why Ruu? Why not Iron or Karot? I see... Are you still convinced it's S/S? Because I'm pretty dubious about Riku, but Ruu just reminds me of you. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
| unvote till I can reread |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
| @lastwhisper31: At least you don't make 14 posts in a row. Better than @Shinichi-kun in that way, lol. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
| @DenjaX: Where are you, man? I'd love to hear more from you. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
osieorb18 said: I mean since seeing how it affects games on mtgs, I try not to. Lol@lastwhisper31: At least you don't make 14 posts in a row. Better than @Shinichi-kun in that way, lol. |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
| @AbuHumaid can we get a vc please? |
| Assuming the previous VC was correct: Unofficial votecount lastwhisper31 (3): ScarletCelestial, Pokeit ironace (2): Karote, DenjaX osieorb18 (2): Riku, Ruu Riku (1): osieorb18 Ruu (1): RE1031 Players not voting: Shinichi-Kun, abhutrash, ironace, lastwhisper31 |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
| seriously 3 new pages -.- |
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Karote said: i agree with Karote here. Shinichi has been pretty sloppy and i dont recall him being town like this as well as his usual tone as town. Shinichi has somewhat strong conviction as town instead of playing the ignorant/fool. Eitherway, he is already exposed and we just need more info whether he was just a flailing scum all along. ScarletCelestial said: I don't doubt my paranoia concerning Shin, but I've decided to drop it for the next few Days since there's no contradiction with available information yet. I still lowkey think Shin is scum, his defense was so sloppy and bad. At some point he said to Ruu ''How do you know that I'm fakeclaiming and not just scum mason?'' lol, like how's that supposed to help their case. |
Ruu said: Shinichi-Kun said: Wait what game is this i am really curious now, cause that would explain why he wanted me to distance myself. I mean there is no indication of lieing is there? Ive seen way to many scum aligned neighbors to trust that role as of lately Why I don't trust Shinichi: - in a non-bastard setup, the mod won't lie to you nor hid information. That means, if you are masons then it's the normal kind (both town). - he keeps bringing up neighbors/ masons as if they were the same, they are not. If you two are masons, you are both town. If you are neighbors, one of you is town and the other one could be town or scum. So if you don't know, that means you are neighbors, are you two neighbors? - Someone that has been playing Mafia for so long, should know that (the mason/town thing), so the fact that he keeps saying he doesn't know logic/osie's alignment makes me think he is worry logic/osie will get lynch and flip scum reveling that Shin was in fact lying. Uhm i actually never knew masons had to be town together, so idk why ur using my experience to assume otherwise? For all clarifications and purposes my buddy is town, until proven otherwise to myself What lieing or information hiding are u speaking of? |
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DenjaX said: Karote said: i agree with Karote here. Shinichi has been pretty sloppy and i dont recall him being town like this as well as his usual tone as town. Shinichi has somewhat strong conviction as town instead of playing the ignorant/fool. Eitherway, he is already exposed and we just need more info whether he was just a flailing scum all along. I still lowkey think Shin is scum, his defense was so sloppy and bad. At some point he said to Ruu ''How do you know that I'm fakeclaiming and not just scum mason?'' lol, like how's that supposed to help their case. Why do you think he's been playing the ignorant? Also, maybe you're just overestimating him based on meta? I mean, most games I've played in have had at least one experienced player not doing nearly as well as they could. It tends to happen, especially when there's a mix of experience levels. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
| lol jumping to vote without asking questions first. Are you scumfirming him? He is not even on a hot seat for lynch yet he claimed. Why are you not questioning him? |
Ruu said: neighbourizer is not necessarily pro town. I saw a game with SK being neighbourizer.osieorb18 said: As far as I know, there's no mafia etiquette reason that you can't tell his role if you believe as you said that it provides no particular benefit to scum over town. There could be a role reason, though that would be strange. Well... @Riku: Partial claims are scummy unless there's a very good reason for them. Outside of miller, do you have anything else to claim? @Ruu: If @Riku doesn't claim in, say, 8 hours, if you're town, you should probably out what you believe his role to be if he doesn't have a good reason for not claiming. I'll at least be awake before/around deadline and for the rest of the IRL day and we can hash it out at that point. @Re1031: That might be enough on the Riku claim for the moment until he actually fullclaims or doesn't. @abhutrash: Maybe shoot whichever of Iron/Karot we don't lynch to give us the extra lynch before scum kills you? Thoughts? mmmm okay... since I don't want to keep wasting everybody's time with this... I think is better for PoE to just say it. Sorry Riku! But I think is for the best >//< Riku is a Neighborizer and he chose me on N1. The fact that now we are neighbours makes me doubt Shin's claim (and yoour ofc) because having Neighbours + masons on the same games seems odd. is like having 4 conf towns (if we take IC into account). |
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