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Nov 28, 2017 6:42 PM

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Gwendolly said:
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Actually, fuck it I'll slack until phase change and you all calm down for a bit.
town points for that, will explain later.
did u ever explain this??
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Nov 28, 2017 6:43 PM

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@sleipnirr I know we have drastically different time zones, but VC when you can... Thanks <3
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and if you’d meet her
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Nov 28, 2017 6:45 PM

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century100 said:
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Really plagiarizes? Didn't know we're writing an essay here.

@coromandel why u have to link all this info on how to help a player learn the game, this kid is taking it so literally it makes my eyes hurt reading his posts.

Just because its not in the wiki or its rare does not mean it cant happen.


I'm basically saying he was probably lying.


Who is "he" your refering too?


Nov 28, 2017 6:45 PM

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Phraze said:
found a nice rule (dunno how I missed it)
3. Do not attempt to determine if a player is mafia by tracking their post count. This will
result in an instant modkill, and it is extremely inaccurate as well as unsportsmanlike. LESS POSTS DOES NOT EQUAL MAFIA!!


I guess it's fine to post less afterall~


lmfao is that really in the OP haha


Nov 28, 2017 6:46 PM

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lastwhisper31 said:
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town points for that, will explain later.
did u ever explain this??


I miss this post from gwen wth is this nonsense?


Nov 28, 2017 6:48 PM

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Im not one to be energentic claims like Ruu's and Centuries' but I'll leave it be for now...

and its completely possible to have vanillas in role madness, maybe not this one... but if there are back ups, then technically until they get their roles, they are for intent in purpose considered vanilla...

Someone telling "role" to do X always leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Don't do it unless you're confirmed town - and even then I think people should let others decide for themselves. im not telling anyone what to do, I am just saying whats logical in this situation, if century never gave us a reason to believe he was town, then shooting him would remove him from the PoE...
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Nov 28, 2017 6:49 PM

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vote: @gwendolly I want ma answers girl...
blinddate
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even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
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Nov 28, 2017 6:54 PM

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lastwhisper31 said:
Im not one to be energentic claims like Ruu's and Centuries' but I'll leave it be for now...

and its completely possible to have vanillas in role madness, maybe not this one... but if there are back ups, then technically until they get their roles, they are for intent in purpose considered vanilla...

Someone telling "role" to do X always leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Don't do it unless you're confirmed town - and even then I think people should let others decide for themselves. im not telling anyone what to do, I am just saying whats logical in this situation, if century never gave us a reason to believe he was town, then shooting him would remove him from the PoE...


Back up is not a vanilla its ability is gaining said role when the original dies, or if its a power role back up getting the first one that dies.

A vanilla wont exist in a role madness, unless he put some invisble semi tag before the words.

And if hes town then what?


Nov 28, 2017 6:56 PM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
century100 said:


I'm basically saying he was probably lying.


Who is "he" your refering too?


The creator of the game.
(maybe you can tell us at the end of the game @Sleipnirr and @logic340 )
Nov 28, 2017 6:59 PM

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lastwhisper31 said:
Im not one to be energentic claims like Ruu's and Centuries' but I'll leave it be for now...

and its completely possible to have vanillas in role madness, maybe not this one... but if there are back ups, then technically until they get their roles, they are for intent in purpose considered vanilla...

Someone telling "role" to do X always leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Don't do it unless you're confirmed town - and even then I think people should let others decide for themselves. im not telling anyone what to do, I am just saying whats logical in this situation, if century never gave us a reason to believe he was town, then shooting him would remove him from the PoE...


It would also kill @Ruu too. (In game terms, she would kill herself out of depression anguish)
Nov 28, 2017 7:00 PM

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century100 said:
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Im not one to be energentic claims like Ruu's and Centuries' but I'll leave it be for now...

and its completely possible to have vanillas in role madness, maybe not this one... but if there are back ups, then technically until they get their roles, they are for intent in purpose considered vanilla...

Someone telling "role" to do X always leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Don't do it unless you're confirmed town - and even then I think people should let others decide for themselves. im not telling anyone what to do, I am just saying whats logical in this situation, if century never gave us a reason to believe he was town, then shooting him would remove him from the PoE...


It would also kill @Ruu too. (In game terms, she would kill herself out of depression anguish)
well u claimed now... im not suggesting it anymore... but ya Ruu would be all alone like usual
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Nov 28, 2017 7:01 PM

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Phraze said:
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So what do you think I should do for other Mafia games?

don't claim unless u absolutely have to: give info or convince ppl to not lynch u. some ppl get by without claiming at all. then there's some who depend on claims to figure ppl out cuz they're bad at hunting by behavior. figure what works best for u, as long as it's not the easy way out.


Sometimes I can't find the right wording and fatally screw myself over.
Nov 28, 2017 7:02 PM

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realization. maf can kill one of the couple and take out 2, if both are town.
Nov 28, 2017 7:03 PM

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lastwhisper31 said:
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It would also kill @Ruu too. (In game terms, she would kill herself out of depression anguish)
well u claimed now... im not suggesting it anymore... but ya Ruu would be all alone like usual


Nah. If I die, we die together. That's the role.
Nov 28, 2017 7:03 PM

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century100 said:
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don't claim unless u absolutely have to: give info or convince ppl to not lynch u. some ppl get by without claiming at all. then there's some who depend on claims to figure ppl out cuz they're bad at hunting by behavior. figure what works best for u, as long as it's not the easy way out.


Sometimes I can't find the right wording and fatally screw myself over.
everyone learns. don't worry about it. I was lousy in my first 2 games xD
Nov 28, 2017 7:04 PM

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Phraze said:
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Sometimes I can't find the right wording and fatally screw myself over.
everyone learns. don't worry about it. I was lousy in my first 2 games xD


WELL THESE ARE MY FIRST 2 GAMES
Nov 28, 2017 7:04 PM

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century100 said:
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well u claimed now... im not suggesting it anymore... but ya Ruu would be all alone like usual


Nah. If I die, we die together. That's the role.
masons dont die together... lovers do....
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Nov 28, 2017 7:06 PM

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century100 said:
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everyone learns. don't worry about it. I was lousy in my first 2 games xD


WELL THESE ARE MY FIRST 2 GAMES

ik :3
Nov 28, 2017 7:07 PM

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century100 said:
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okay I will be the one to claim

@century100 and I are masons. So you can figure out what he was missing

now let's move on and catch scum please.
As a mason myself, I can confirm.

This doesn't prove that you and Ruu aren't scum together.

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lastwhisper31 said:
Im not one to be energentic claims like Ruu's and Centuries' but I'll leave it be for now...

and its completely possible to have vanillas in role madness, maybe not this one... but if there are back ups, then technically until they get their roles, they are for intent in purpose considered vanilla...

Someone telling "role" to do X always leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Don't do it unless you're confirmed town - and even then I think people should let others decide for themselves. im not telling anyone what to do, I am just saying whats logical in this situation, if century never gave us a reason to believe he was town, then shooting him would remove him from the PoE...


It would also kill @Ruu too. (In game terms, she would kill herself out of depression anguish)
Now you're claiming lovers masons?










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tfw i was completely forgotten about yet again










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Nov 28, 2017 7:08 PM

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Kit said:
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As a mason myself, I can confirm.

This doesn't prove that you and Ruu aren't scum together.

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It would also kill @Ruu too. (In game terms, she would kill herself out of depression anguish)
Now you're claiming lovers masons?
+1, but if they do die together I am not taking that chance thank you... if they are both town I mean
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
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Nov 28, 2017 7:09 PM

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lastwhisper31 said:
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Nah. If I die, we die together. That's the role.
masons dont die together... lovers do....


Ok I think I'm confused by my own role
Nov 28, 2017 7:10 PM

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Kit said:
tfw i was completely forgotten about yet again
i was forgotten also, we can be forgotten together... not gunna lie tho, this game is so big that I forgot you were in this game also... lol
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Nov 28, 2017 7:12 PM

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RE1031 said:
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everyone gets a role doesn't mean power role. and yes, vanilla exist in rolemadness [example]. as for the question, the vanilla would come out first with their answers - prs might try to stay off the radar. trying to figure what he was trying to accomplish.
Either I'm blind or nothing in the game you linked says "role madness." Also, I disagree completely. I think the question Astros asked about who will lead town will receive answers influenced by the players themselves and not at all by their alignment or role.
nanatsu isn't role madness but eevee is and has a "french vanilla" (i know because i cohosted) so it's possible theres a "vanilla" here but has a useless power.
.. I'm not sure what the point of this discussion was though. I don't think Astros is vanilla fishing.










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Nov 28, 2017 7:12 PM

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Kit said:
tfw i was completely forgotten about yet again
cuz ur not always around. and why would Ruu wanna claim masons so early?
Nov 28, 2017 7:13 PM

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century100 said:
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Who is "he" your refering too?


The creator of the game.
(maybe you can tell us at the end of the game @Sleipnirr and @logic340 )


Game mods can't lie, they can hide stuff from us or refuse to tell us things but they cant lie.


Nov 28, 2017 7:15 PM

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Kit said:
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Either I'm blind or nothing in the game you linked says "role madness." Also, I disagree completely. I think the question Astros asked about who will lead town will receive answers influenced by the players themselves and not at all by their alignment or role.
nanatsu isn't role madness but eevee is and has a "french vanilla" (i know because i cohosted) so it's possible theres a "vanilla" here but has a useless power.
.. I'm not sure what the point of this discussion was though. I don't think Astros is vanilla fishing.
uhmm I guess anything is possible. vanilla arguably can exist in rolemadness but someone disagrees.. the host confirmed it tho, there's no vanilla in the setup.
Nov 28, 2017 7:16 PM

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Phraze said:
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tfw i was completely forgotten about yet again
cuz ur not always around. and why would Ruu wanna claim masons so early?
idk tbh... what was centuries train at?
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Nov 28, 2017 7:16 PM

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Gwendolly said:
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But here's the thing. If it was a question about the game, why didn't he just ask it? If it was a question pertaining to his role, he would do it through PM. That leads me to thinking that it was something that could be conveyed through the thread, but not all together obvious. Really, there should have been a re-roll. As now they could be read as confirmed town, because the game was allowed to continue.


He was pretty much asking questions beforehand in the thread. One was even something about "hinting at their role" come to think of it a scum wouldnt ask that. But this "missing something" irks me. A re-roll would have acquired for everybody to re-roll no? And then everyone would know atleast one other role out there. So that was not an option. What also irks me is that only you are jumping on it and others are ignoring that fact or arent even questioning him further. Either to distract or to not jump on opportunities. I want to know what other people think @ everyone!
i never got around to stating my thoughts about it before the topic blew up but i think its kind of wrong to use out-of-game stuff to read people. But it's been discussed so much that it has now become part of the game anyway : /

My initial thought was that he was missing scum chat. But I'd give the benefit of the doubt and believe there could be another explanation. One slip isn't enough to confirm someone anyway. I don't agree with astros that no reroll means he's confirm town. I think he still could be mafia with ruu covering for him.

Though, he does seem rather too calm to be mafia as... a newish player i think?










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century100 said:
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masons dont die together... lovers do....


Ok I think I'm confused by my own role
if you have a secret chat together you're masons. if you die together you're lovers. if you die together and have a chat then i guess you're lovers with a secret chat.










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lastwhisper31 said:
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cuz ur not always around. and why would Ruu wanna claim masons so early?
idk tbh... what was centuries train at?

esp with the doublekill thing. 1.4 votecount
Nov 28, 2017 7:20 PM

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lastwhisper31 said:
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This doesn't prove that you and Ruu aren't scum together.

Now you're claiming lovers masons?
+1, but if they do die together I am not taking that chance thank you... if they are both town I mean
yeah i'm not gonna vote em today though i'll be surprised if mafia doesnt just go for killing them if they really are town and die together. Ruu was being tactful not mentioning it but century blew it lol.










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Phraze said:
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idk tbh... what was centuries train at?

esp with the doublekill thing. 1.4 votecount
me and you top trains feels like deja vu lol
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
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century100 said:
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well u claimed now... im not suggesting it anymore... but ya Ruu would be all alone like usual


Nah. If I die, we die together. That's the role.


Thats in ur role description? Are you sure your not just lover thens? Actually wait maybe you just have the lovers passive i suppose.


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Phraze said:
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nanatsu isn't role madness but eevee is and has a "french vanilla" (i know because i cohosted) so it's possible theres a "vanilla" here but has a useless power.
.. I'm not sure what the point of this discussion was though. I don't think Astros is vanilla fishing.
uhmm I guess anything is possible. vanilla arguably can exist in rolemadness but someone disagrees.. the host confirmed it tho, there's no vanilla in the setup.
he said everyone has an ability and that was true for eevee as well, the vanilla had a night ability that didn't do anything










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Phraze said:
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tfw i was completely forgotten about yet again
cuz ur not always around. and why would Ruu wanna claim masons so early?
because her mason buddy outed them before the game










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@Togs never responded to me :'(










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Lovers can have a number of unannounced additions to the above definition, such as the ability to talk to each other or confirmation of each others' alignment. I did not know this was a variation of the lovers


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Willing to lynch: Phraze, last
Maybe: Soda
Neutral list: Too many
Town/Maybe town: Ruu, century100, Kit
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
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lastwhisper31 said:
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esp with the doublekill thing. 1.4 votecount
me and you top trains feels like deja vu lol
lol
on a srs note, I wonder why the tied lynch = no lynch was an option.
Nov 28, 2017 7:27 PM

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Kit said:
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cuz ur not always around. and why would Ruu wanna claim masons so early?
because her mason buddy outed them before the game
ok. the risk of doublekill doesn't look worth outing tho.
Nov 28, 2017 7:28 PM

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Phraze said:
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me and you top trains feels like deja vu lol
lol
on a srs note, I wonder why the tied lynch = no lynch was an option.
what?
@Re1031 lol, that post wasnt directly for you, it was for everyone, and I was highly pissed off when I saw it...
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Nov 28, 2017 7:30 PM

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Phraze said:
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because her mason buddy outed them before the game
ok. the risk of doublekill doesn't look worth outing tho.
i'm not sure what you're even asking me. i didnt say they should have claimed earlier










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Kit said:
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Ok I think I'm confused by my own role
if you have a secret chat together you're masons. if you die together you're lovers. if you die together and have a chat then i guess you're lovers with a secret chat.


I think it's both...and that would explain the unique role that the creator mentioned.
Nov 28, 2017 7:34 PM

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@RE1031
Given the flack century was getting, it wasn't early. I kind of regret it now, but her's and century's responses were reasonable. (And now I can put Ruu in as town, unless something drastic changes.)
Did you not notice Gwen and I questioning him?
I noticed plenty of questioning about cent's pregame post. it's early, and unnecessary, considering the lover condition is dying together. cent wasn't close to being lynched, and maf can doublekill if both are town.

and, why Phraze/Last?
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lol
on a srs note, I wonder why the tied lynch = no lynch was an option.
what?
@Re1031 lol, that post wasnt directly for you, it was for everyone, and I was highly pissed off when I saw it...
You drew a comparison between you and her where there should have been none. How was Ruu's explanation anything like yours? When judging someone's reads to figure out their alignment, the explanation is more important than the reads themselves (not to say they aren't reliant on each other).
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
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century100 said:
Kit said:
if you have a secret chat together you're masons. if you die together you're lovers. if you die together and have a chat then i guess you're lovers with a secret chat.


I think it's both...and that would explain the unique role that the creator mentioned.


Its not a unique role, its just a 2 masons with the lovers modifier slapped on them both.


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century100 said:
Kit said:
if you have a secret chat together you're masons. if you die together you're lovers. if you die together and have a chat then i guess you're lovers with a secret chat.


I think it's both...and that would explain the unique role that the creator mentioned.
It's not really a unique role tbh, just nonstandard.

edit: well dang i got ninja'd by chad.










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lastwhisper31 said:
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lol
on a srs note, I wonder why the tied lynch = no lynch was an option.
what?
I'm sorta questioning why we're at a tie. and if such an option exists, why is it there for. we're always for a lynch, so why is that option there in the first place. just smthing interesting I thought of when seeing tied trains~
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RE1031 said:
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what?
@Re1031 lol, that post wasnt directly for you, it was for everyone, and I was highly pissed off when I saw it...
You drew a comparison between you and her where there should have been none. How was Ruu's explanation anything like yours? When judging someone's reads to figure out their alignment, the explanation is more important than the reads themselves (not to say they are reliant on each other).
how the fuck was it not????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? are u joking? I literally said, I like his questions, he gets everyone talking and they dont seem forced, and I may not understand the purpose but I dont see any malice behind.... like are we in the same game??? I mean obviously thats heavily paraphrased, but thats exactly what I had thought at the time, and roughly what I posted...
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
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