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Aug 19, 2017 8:02 AM
#401
CorruptedPurity said: Also, I'm loving the fact that I'm the centre of attention now. Really helps with my needy attention seeker craving attitude. Every time I see my name, it excites me. Also @Claire, I think you mentioned that your vote may be for pressure. If it is, I just wanna say that I feel more disappointed with a slight tinge of annoyed instead of pressure. After all, I am best town. Forgive me for being so smug and snobbish, It's so rare I get to be best town that I wanna bask in it's glory while it lasts. (I am CP after all, the Night 1 NK wetdream of every scum team) I am more disappointed that you forget to put _ and now youre tagging some else. But I respect that. Though your attitude makes me wanna slap you :)) |
Aug 19, 2017 8:06 AM
#402
_Claire_ said: CorruptedPurity said: Also, I'm loving the fact that I'm the centre of attention now. Really helps with my needy attention seeker craving attitude. Every time I see my name, it excites me. Also @Claire, I think you mentioned that your vote may be for pressure. If it is, I just wanna say that I feel more disappointed with a slight tinge of annoyed instead of pressure. After all, I am best town. Forgive me for being so smug and snobbish, It's so rare I get to be best town that I wanna bask in it's glory while it lasts. (I am CP after all, the Night 1 NK wetdream of every scum team) I am more disappointed that you forget to put _ and now youre tagging some else. But I respect that. Though your attitude makes me wanna slap you :)) I actually checked that guys profile. They've been inactive since Feb, it should be fine. Also, thank you so much, what you just said means more than you think. Also please... please slap me |
Aug 19, 2017 8:08 AM
#403
logic340 said: Because she isnt? What was the point of her comment, does she scum read purity, is she not? I dont believe she ever elaborated on this, and I gave my reasons for why theres nothing wrong with have more then one perspective, regardless of who the question was directed to. What was the point of this post other then to say im mudslinging. Tbh i stated many times, that I've never seen this arguement used before, but I have a slight town read on dono because of her activity this game, but you still are slightly leaning towards scum for me. Im just trying to be more vocal this game, its not mud slinging if I feel like it means something, I mean ya I could have elaborated on it, but I didnt.lastwhisper31 said: why stop at two? Why not share yours and make it three? I feel like you were mudslinging dono here with bolded as it seems to serve no purpose other than to say you feel she isn't doing anything with this post.aa-dono said: CorruptedPurity said: ororo~ You're answering for uncle logic..Arrisu said: @logic340 - Why no RVS? Youre relatively active. Tbf the purpose of RVS is to apply pressure, promote activity and get the ball rolling. If one can accomplish that without the use of a vote, then I don't see the issue. On the other hand, if logic starts pressuring someone alot without voting them afterwards, I may find a problem with that depeding on the situation. As long as he's active and keeping the ball rolling, there's no real need to for him as an individual to participate in RVS o.O |
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Aug 19, 2017 8:08 AM
#404
CorruptedPurity said: _Claire_ said: CorruptedPurity said: Also, I'm loving the fact that I'm the centre of attention now. Really helps with my needy attention seeker craving attitude. Every time I see my name, it excites me. Also @Claire, I think you mentioned that your vote may be for pressure. If it is, I just wanna say that I feel more disappointed with a slight tinge of annoyed instead of pressure. After all, I am best town. Forgive me for being so smug and snobbish, It's so rare I get to be best town that I wanna bask in it's glory while it lasts. (I am CP after all, the Night 1 NK wetdream of every scum team) I am more disappointed that you forget to put _ and now youre tagging some else. But I respect that. Though your attitude makes me wanna slap you :)) I actually checked that guys profile. They've been inactive since Feb, it should be fine. Also, thank you so much, what you just said means more than you think. Also please... please slap me Let me cane you dear, come. Though you might not like to be caned by a guy. |
Aug 19, 2017 8:10 AM
#405
CorruptedPurity said: Arri is slight scum lean (ya maybe nobody asks him questions, but that shouldn't stop him from saying his thoughts anyway. He asks others, creating generation around him but not from him. His only opinion he shared was the one on claire and tbh, logic was already half way through Claire at that point, it would be so ez to just hop on the anti Claire train. I would call this lurking in a smart form, he does enough to garner views that he's actually active while not doing anything of his own conviction that could be questioned by others. Hmm, how exactly is that slightly scummy? Kind of seems more like null imo, cause it doesn't seem exactly town or scum motivated. |
Aug 19, 2017 8:10 AM
#406
logic340 said: So I've read everything and I'm a little miffed at how my posts are being misconstrued, misunderstood, misrepresented, and considered useless. I'll go over specific posts and give clarification here shortly but I have live mafia, another mafia game, work, and general real life to tend to as well. Abu for town - even if I want people to look into him and pressure him for his scum claim. Talking about the three who scum claimed, I see a lot of you misrepping me or commenting on that post without understanding where logic is coming from. This is the one that stands out the most as at least 4 people have touched on it. Your posts aren't useless. Misguided maybe, but not useless. Some of us just want to understand what drives you to do what you're doing, that's all. |
Aug 19, 2017 8:15 AM
#407
Coelestin said: CorruptedPurity said: Arri is slight scum lean (ya maybe nobody asks him questions, but that shouldn't stop him from saying his thoughts anyway. He asks others, creating generation around him but not from him. His only opinion he shared was the one on claire and tbh, logic was already half way through Claire at that point, it would be so ez to just hop on the anti Claire train. I would call this lurking in a smart form, he does enough to garner views that he's actually active while not doing anything of his own conviction that could be questioned by others. Hmm, how exactly is that slightly scummy? Kind of seems more like null imo, cause it doesn't seem exactly town or scum motivated. Non-committal Feinting conversation by creating discussion around him and make it sound like from him These 2 points mainly |
Aug 19, 2017 8:16 AM
#408
Aug 19, 2017 8:24 AM
#409
lastwhisper31 said: ==I have a slight town read on dono because of her activity this game If I'm inactive in other games, it's coz of irl stuff. |
Aug 19, 2017 8:33 AM
#410
logic340 said: Now who's role fishing? I dont get you this game... I'll just keep my vote on you for nowCorruptedPurity said: Just to clear things up a bit what is your role/ability called?As usual I don't participate in RVS, but since I'm obviously best town, none of you have reasons to suspect me. To be honest, I'm not all that good at scumhunting (duh), so even while I will try to do so, I'll mainly utilize my role as a cleared town to help others scumhunt. An opinion of a clear town could be quite strong, as you can factor in on the all interactions and suspicions from me without having to worry if I am scum. So if you ever need my opinion on a certain read, just ping me. Also, can I get a "I respect that" for CP, the best town? |
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Aug 19, 2017 8:35 AM
#411
Coelestin said: while I know that some do want to understand others don't even attempt to try and understand which I've gotten on whisper about in another game already. So it sucks that I'm seeing the same exact thing here. Part of the reason I made this whole post saying that now I need to go back and clear things up because people won't ask me what I actually mean. Which is part of the reason that I post the way I do to see who's willing to get an understanding and who just wants to attack things.logic340 said: So I've read everything and I'm a little miffed at how my posts are being misconstrued, misunderstood, misrepresented, and considered useless. I'll go over specific posts and give clarification here shortly but I have live mafia, another mafia game, work, and general real life to tend to as well. Abu for town - even if I want people to look into him and pressure him for his scum claim. Talking about the three who scum claimed, I see a lot of you misrepping me or commenting on that post without understanding where logic is coming from. This is the one that stands out the most as at least 4 people have touched on it. Your posts aren't useless. Misguided maybe, but not useless. Some of us just want to understand what drives you to do what you're doing, that's all. |
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Aug 19, 2017 8:38 AM
#412
_Claire_ said: CorruptedPurity said: _Claire_ said: CorruptedPurity said: Also, I'm loving the fact that I'm the centre of attention now. Really helps with my needy attention seeker craving attitude. Every time I see my name, it excites me. Also @Claire, I think you mentioned that your vote may be for pressure. If it is, I just wanna say that I feel more disappointed with a slight tinge of annoyed instead of pressure. After all, I am best town. Forgive me for being so smug and snobbish, It's so rare I get to be best town that I wanna bask in it's glory while it lasts. (I am CP after all, the Night 1 NK wetdream of every scum team) I am more disappointed that you forget to put _ and now youre tagging some else. But I respect that. Though your attitude makes me wanna slap you :)) I actually checked that guys profile. They've been inactive since Feb, it should be fine. Also, thank you so much, what you just said means more than you think. Also please... please slap me Let me cane you dear, come. Though you might not like to be caned by a guy. You're a guy? With that angelic voice? I'm on a whole new level of hard I never thought possible. Cane me daddy. |
Aug 19, 2017 8:40 AM
#413
Coelestin said: Uhhm, well I feel like he sheeped the comment, but he poked at two people, I was one of them, for answering a questioned directed at someone else, I've nvr seen him do it before, and honestly he wasnt even the first person to bring that up. Awa was.aa-dono said: lastwhisper31 said: Since Logic voted me its only fair that I vote him, he thinks I'm scum for something I did before, and I think hes scum for something he usually never does. vote: Logic Would like to know as well @lastwhisper31 |
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Aug 19, 2017 8:46 AM
#414
Aug 19, 2017 8:49 AM
#415
lastwhisper31 said: Coelestin said: Uhhm, well I feel like he sheeped the comment, but he poked at two people, I was one of them, for answering a questioned directed at someone else, I've nvr seen him do it before, and honestly he wasnt even the first person to bring that up. Awa was.aa-dono said: lastwhisper31 said: What's the thing he usually never does?Since Logic voted me its only fair that I vote him, he thinks I'm scum for something I did before, and I think hes scum for something he usually never does. vote: Logic Would like to know as well @lastwhisper31 And that couldn't be town motivated as well? Just because he's never done that before, it means that it's actually scummy (to be honest, I have no clue what posts you're referring to, help me? lol) |
Aug 19, 2017 8:52 AM
#416
Aug 19, 2017 8:55 AM
#417
CorruptedPurity said: Coelestin said: CorruptedPurity said: Arri is slight scum lean (ya maybe nobody asks him questions, but that shouldn't stop him from saying his thoughts anyway. He asks others, creating generation around him but not from him. His only opinion he shared was the one on claire and tbh, logic was already half way through Claire at that point, it would be so ez to just hop on the anti Claire train. I would call this lurking in a smart form, he does enough to garner views that he's actually active while not doing anything of his own conviction that could be questioned by others. Hmm, how exactly is that slightly scummy? Kind of seems more like null imo, cause it doesn't seem exactly town or scum motivated. Non-committal Feinting conversation by creating discussion around him and make it sound like from him These 2 points mainly Mhm, alright. @Arrisu What are your thoughts on Claire's defense now? |
Aug 19, 2017 10:04 AM
#418
Coelestin said: @Ruu @Kaitou I need a vote count desperately, I really really tried to scum hunt without one, but it's getting kind of hard T_T Just got home, on it. |
Aug 19, 2017 10:41 AM
#419
1.2 Claire: Arrisu, logic340, Abu logic340: lastwhisper, Coelestin, Claire Mishukax: Phraze, Labs Phraze: Mishukax, Arrisu: aa-dono Coelestin: Suzune-chan 1. aa-dono > Arrisu 2. Last > Claire > Logic 3. Labs > CorruptivePurity > Mishukax 4.. Claire > CorruptivePurity > logic340 5. Tingle 6. logic340 > lastwhisper > Claire 7. Suzune-chan 8. CorruptivePurity 9. AbuHumaid > logic340 > Claire 10. Maitai 11. roz1roz 12. Arrisu > Colestin > Claire 13. Coelestin > Mishukax > logic340 14. Mishukax > Phraze 15. Phraze > Mishukax Not voting: Tingle. Suzune-chan, CorruptivePurity, Maitai, roz1roz Mod comments: No Lynch is not an option ~ |
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Aug 19, 2017 12:19 PM
#421
Time to do some catch up. I have to work in about an hour but I should be on from there. Let us see what's been happening around here. |
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Aug 19, 2017 12:22 PM
#422
_Claire_ said: It's NAI which is why I said something to begin with. It's like one of the most barebones questions and lends itself to lastwhisper's read of her looking like she's doing something. I have been fighting this fight with how to get reads on Abu for three games now if you want a first hand look check out Togs' Eeveelution Mafia game. Is that alignment indicative, that he always deflects a qtn? Should we ignore him and not pester him just because he doesn't ever answer? Hah~! |
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Aug 19, 2017 12:34 PM
#423
So it seems not much has happened since the last time I was here. Time to clear up a few things: Yes people this is a bastard game but that doesn't mean that everything is a lie or that we just assume the opposite. logic340 said: This is a serious vote. Same reaction I got the last time I caught scum claiming like this and it just so happened to be whisper. Not that I am not used to town pulling me off good lynches before. What else has he done or been doing? Throwing mud everywhere he can from my pov. Mostly at me but at dono and purity. His vote on me is of the OMGUS variety more than anything which speaks volumes to me. Will probably move back here but lets continue on. lastwhisper31 said: Caught you like this once before. I though you would know better than to play around like this with me in the game. Labs said: CorruptedPurity said: Labs said: Also you weren't forgotten, you're allowed to claim, that's all. Actually I'd like to see you try.... Actually got me thinking. I think there would be some people who would be cheeky and vote their flavour role... If labs is CP I want him lynched, I don't trust that lil shit. On a more serious tone, I'd actually look at this RVS a bit more carefully than usual as it may be useful when people start claiming later on. Unless everyone's TPR, I doubt there's room for being a dumb ass like that ^^ As for a CP role, best.... possibly wurst case scenario I can see them holding a N1 death trigger of sorts for the lols. Conversion, bomb, some kind of target for TPR or just a benefit for anyone that hits them N1. Vote: lastwhisper logic340 said: I see a lot of talk about this post. Where in this specific post did I say they were all scum for this or that I suspected them solely on the fact they scum claimed? I did not say this was a scum team either so not sure why this has been so misrepresented in the thread? Abu/Labs/whisper have all scum claimed, I think it would be worth looking into and pressuring all of them heavily. Abu - I town read Abu most of you seem to have no understanding of him. So since he scum claimed pressure him. Ask him questions that will actually tell you something not just "Who is scum", "Who do you suspect", "Who should we be looking at". Abu can be worked out pretty easily but these are not the types of questions to do it with. Town lean. Labs - He's Labs I need to take time trying to read him as I am usually off. He is hard to read an the scum claim is NAI at best from him. This isn't enough for me to go either way on his early activity should more revealing. Neutral. Whisper - It's not that he scum claimed, it's the way he did it and how it made me feel. I noted that Abu's feel's different to me, yet people try to say they are the same thing. Look at the context of the two post and then tell me they are the same. Listed above other things I don't like about him. Scum lean. |
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Aug 19, 2017 12:38 PM
#424
Arrisu said: Basically I am telling him I don't understand what he is saying. I read it and felt nothing anyway and was like what did I just read. Sorry I am very direct and that rubs people the wrong way I will try to phrase things differently. logic340 said: I got done reading this and felt like I read a bunch of nothing. Can you come again please? Calm down. |
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Aug 19, 2017 12:40 PM
#425
_Claire_ said: The funny thing about this is that whisper does this to me all the time I will find an example coming up here shortly so I will be sure to reference this post. Is whisper scummy as well for deflecting and not answering the direct questions I asked him?logic340 said: aa-dono said: logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol. If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. Is that alignment indicative, that he always deflects a qtn? Should we ignore him and not pester him just because he doesn't ever answer? Hah~! |
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Aug 19, 2017 12:41 PM
#426
_Claire_ said: Why is my vote on clarie in question when she asked me to do it? Then stated I feel for her trap and swiftly back pedaled with I was bluffing? logic340 said: AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: That's some BS. I stated my opinions, you're just ignoringaa-dono said: logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol. If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. +1. I am asking for his opinion 2x and he just left or something RIP. Whisper is on my shit list too though. Vote me then. Barking wont work you know. :) |
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Aug 19, 2017 12:48 PM
#427
logic340 said: I see I am being called out for role fishing over this? How am I role fishing a role that was revealed in the OP post? The quote below is a big part of the reason I asked the question in the quote above. People were acting like they didn't see an innocent child claim in Purity's I am town!firmed post or the OP post where it said he is best town in BLUE the color of town this game? So again I ask how was logic role fishing here when the role was known before logic even entered the thread and he was obviously asking for clarification for those who were questioning it as seen in the second quote below. CorruptedPurity said: Just to clear things up a bit what is your role/ability called?As usual I don't participate in RVS, but since I'm obviously best town, none of you have reasons to suspect me. To be honest, I'm not all that good at scumhunting (duh), so even while I will try to do so, I'll mainly utilize my role as a cleared town to help others scumhunt. An opinion of a clear town could be quite strong, as you can factor in on the all interactions and suspicions from me without having to worry if I am scum. So if you ever need my opinion on a certain read, just ping me. Also, can I get a "I respect that" for CP, the best town? _Claire_ said: AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. logic340 said: AbuHumaid said: "Best Town" means a certain player in the MS community. But I also take the fact that it's in blue to mean they are being revealed as town. _Claire_ said: AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. @ everyone who is questioning innocent child role what else could it be if not that? |
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Aug 19, 2017 12:50 PM
#428
Coelestin said: What do you mean by it seems like a bit of a shot in the dark? I was answering questions that arri asked me. I know others had answered them on my behalf but as whisper said we can never have too many perspectives. logic340 said: Arrisu said: CorruptedPurity said: Arrisu said: @logic340 - Why no RVS? Youre relatively active. Tbf the purpose of RVS is to apply pressure, promote activity and get the ball rolling. If one can accomplish that without the use of a vote, then I don't see the issue. On the other hand, if logic starts pressuring someone alot without voting them afterwards, I may find a problem with that depeding on the situation. As long as he's active and keeping the ball rolling, there's no real need to for him as an individual to participate in RVS I know what the purpose of RVS is. I was asking why he wasnt doing so. lastwhisper31 said: Arrisu said: Yep, he doesnt join in on RVS.logic340 said: I don't feel am rvs vote is needed to get things going. Is this something you do regularly? Arrisu said: logic340 said: I don't feel am rvs vote is needed to get things going. Is this something you do regularly? Not entirely sure what to make out of this post, seems a bit like a shot into the dark. Gotta see if this is town logic trying too hard again or something else. |
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Aug 19, 2017 1:02 PM
#429
omg wut? 9 pages on D1. rip I promise to be hardworking and catch up soon~ |
Aug 19, 2017 1:05 PM
#430
Tingle said: aa-dono said: Alright here we go.. I believe most that people have could said about these 4 has been said, but I’ll try to find some more things to nitpick on :’) Imma try and mark everything I’m saying in blue to make it more easy to tell apart. But forgive me if I forget.@AbuHumaid What do you think of Arri, logic and Mishu? @Tingle same question (plus Claire) Logic Has been playing actively, and been questioning players, the question really is if his questions are really doing anything. Has been kinda defensive, and has been picking a fight with everyone, but that can honestly be both a scum or a town tell, depends on the player, I don’t know him, so that at least doesnt get me anywhere. I have scumread someone before because they were defensive about everything, and they flipped scum. What do ya’ll think? He did, however, make some solid points about the CP issue that I agree with. I’d like for him to get more into why is currently scumreading lastwhisper like he said he would. logic340 said: I’d like for his reasoning to be something else than making speculations based on previous games. Meta reading can be beneficial, but can also work against us. Nothing promises that a player will be using the same tactics again. What did you think of whisper's post? Do you think it's talking about the player or the role? I will share my thoughts on this with you later but I think it's clear to most of us who have been playing more recently. logic340 said: I don’t like this post, it’s dumb. Taking obvious joke claims serious won’t get us anywhere. I don’t have anything against him pressuring them, but do get some solid reasoning behind why you think they’re scum, outside of obvious fake scum tells.Abu/Labs/whisper have all scum claimed, I think it would be worth looking into and pressuring all of them heavily. logic340 said: It was early game, RVS period, jokes like that are taken less seriously than later on in the game._Claire_ said: logic340 said: Abu/Labs/whisper have all scum claimed, I think it would be worth looking into and pressuring all of them heavily. Lol... I cant even tell you how unreasonable this is. But you play your game. So why do you feel it's unreasonable. I never said condemn them all I just said look into them. When I scum claim later on you all should look into me as well. logic340 said: Can you deliberately tell us why you’re voting Claire besides Arri’s reasoning? It looks like you’re jumping on a now easy train._Claire_ said: logic340 said: AbuHumaid said: I think I am ready to vote Claire with ari honestly. _Claire_ said: That's some BS. I stated my opinions, you're just ignoringaa-dono said: logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol. If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. +1. I am asking for his opinion 2x and he just left or something RIP. Whisper is on my shit list too though. Vote me then. Barking wont work you know. :) Vote: Claire Well since you asked so nicely Don't be upset when you get everything that comes along with it though seeing as how you asked for this. logic340 said: Role fishing. CorruptedPurity said: As usual I don't participate in RVS, but since I'm obviously best town, none of you have reasons to suspect me. To be honest, I'm not all that good at scumhunting (duh), so even while I will try to do so, I'll mainly utilize my role as a cleared town to help others scumhunt. An opinion of a clear town could be quite strong, as you can factor in on the all interactions and suspicions from me without having to worry if I am scum. So if you ever need my opinion on a certain read, just ping me. Also, can I get a "I respect that" for CP, the best town? Neutral, leaning scum on this one. 1. I think I had made that pretty clear at that point. He was mudslinging me badly and the scum claim. 2. You can find the answer to this in #423. This was not a vote based of whisper meta this was a vote based on how I felt about this particular scum claim with the note of how I happened to catch him like this before. See I like to give as much info as I can so people can understand where I am coming from but at times I will omit some to see if people try to understand me by asking questions or just label it a town or scum motivated action. It can be quite telling when town isn't being lazy. 3. How do you know they are jokes and not actual scum claims unless you are scum clearing town here? Do you know something I do not? Also I have since answered this is #423 4. Um....did you miss where she asked me to vote for her? Claire said "Vote me then. Barking wont work you know. :)" to which I answered "unvote: Vote: Claire. Well since you asked so nicely. Don't be upset when you get everything that comes along with it though seeing as how you asked for this". I am not trying to be rude but if you follow the conversation in the quote chain why I did what I did is very clear. It's also stated in the post where you quoted. Now if you can make a case for why scum would place a vote like that then go right ahead but don't say you don't understand the reason for my vote when the reason is in the post you quoted. 5. I addressed in #427. Am I really role fishing here or am I trying to get people to understand Purity's role? |
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Aug 19, 2017 1:08 PM
#431
Coelestin said: I want to see where you go with this. I was quite shocked when I saw the VC with your vote on me as I felt you might have been one of the people town reading me due to early posts so your vote being there was unexpected. I will have to look at your progression but lets see what you think of my recent slew of posting. _Claire_ said: Coelestin said: _Claire_ said: Setting aside my vote that youve got problem there, what else do you think? Beside picking on Awa liking me vote and being paradoxical. *Is still stuck on page 6, rip* So far this whole thing with logic's statement here with the fight following that logic340 said: Abu/Labs/whisper have all scum claimed, I think it would be worth looking into and pressuring all of them heavily. Is bothering me, doesn't even sound like an effort to actually understand the people but to tunnel them, so I'm kind of with Whisper on that one. The problem is, that it sometimes appears in his town meta as well. If he's actually scum, he's bound to trip at some point anyways because of that slip though. Now, because of that, Whisper had an easy time bashing logic for that. It's not alignment indicative, even if I like to believe that one of them is scum. They tunnel each other too hard. Already said my opinion on Abu. Will have to look into Ari, Tingle, Mishu, Labs and CP later when I actually read everything in depth... I can tell you that many of us are easily angered by Logic for some reason. Yeah neither do I like that post. I said it was unreasonable and he was answering some other thing after that, but I dont think the mafia claim is worth investigating because its NAI at best. I'm very much aware of that, and that is what makes it very hard to judge whether or not that is still within the realm of logic's town play or not, especially since it was so early in the game. How about this then. I don't like doing this because I already have a train on Mishu and would like to pressure him too, but... Vote: logic340 Join me and Whisper on this one, Claire. |
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Aug 19, 2017 1:09 PM
#432
I am headed to work I will be back soon. unvote: Vote: lastwhisper Lets make logic the leading train and see what he does. |
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Aug 19, 2017 1:23 PM
#433
logic340 said: I see a lot of talk about this post. Where in this specific post did I say they were all scum for this or that I suspected them solely on the fact they scum claimed? I did not say this was a scum team either so not sure why this has been so misrepresented in the thread? Abu - I town read Abu most of you seem to have no understanding of him. So since he scum claimed pressure him. Ask him questions that will actually tell you something not just "Who is scum", "Who do you suspect", "Who should we be looking at". Abu can be worked out pretty easily but these are not the types of questions to do it with. Town lean. Labs - He's Labs I need to take time trying to read him as I am usually off. He is hard to read an the scum claim is NAI at best from him. This isn't enough for me to go either way on his early activity should more revealing. Neutral. Whisper - It's not that he scum claimed, it's the way he did it and how it made me feel. I noted that Abu's feel's different to me, yet people try to say they are the same thing. Look at the context of the two post and then tell me they are the same. Listed above other things I don't like about him. Scum lean. Great, I can agree with you on the Abu read for now. Not sure if you're not tunneling too much on Whisper due to frustration or whatever, but there's some truth to it. logic340 said: Coelestin said: I want to see where you go with this. I was quite shocked when I saw the VC with your vote on me as I felt you might have been one of the people town reading me due to early posts so your vote being there was unexpected. I will have to look at your progression but lets see what you think of my recent slew of posting. _Claire_ said: Coelestin said: _Claire_ said: Setting aside my vote that youve got problem there, what else do you think? Beside picking on Awa liking me vote and being paradoxical. *Is still stuck on page 6, rip* So far this whole thing with logic's statement here with the fight following that logic340 said: Abu/Labs/whisper have all scum claimed, I think it would be worth looking into and pressuring all of them heavily. Is bothering me, doesn't even sound like an effort to actually understand the people but to tunnel them, so I'm kind of with Whisper on that one. The problem is, that it sometimes appears in his town meta as well. If he's actually scum, he's bound to trip at some point anyways because of that slip though. Now, because of that, Whisper had an easy time bashing logic for that. It's not alignment indicative, even if I like to believe that one of them is scum. They tunnel each other too hard. Already said my opinion on Abu. Will have to look into Ari, Tingle, Mishu, Labs and CP later when I actually read everything in depth... I can tell you that many of us are easily angered by Logic for some reason. Yeah neither do I like that post. I said it was unreasonable and he was answering some other thing after that, but I dont think the mafia claim is worth investigating because its NAI at best. I'm very much aware of that, and that is what makes it very hard to judge whether or not that is still within the realm of logic's town play or not, especially since it was so early in the game. How about this then. I don't like doing this because I already have a train on Mishu and would like to pressure him too, but... Vote: logic340 Join me and Whisper on this one, Claire. Welp yeah, my own vote reminds me way too much of the Great Terror, cause I did exactly the same there. I've already accomplished what I wanted to accomplish here though, so let's get onto the fun~ Vote: LastWhisper31 What do you think about Claire now, logic? @Tingle why aren't you voting yet? |
Aug 19, 2017 1:26 PM
#434
Kaitou said: Coelestin said: @Ruu @Kaitou I need a vote count desperately, I really really tried to scum hunt without one, but it's getting kind of hard T_T Just got home, on it. Thanks a lot Kaichan :3 |
Aug 19, 2017 1:28 PM
#435
Coelestin said: @Mishukax Has no one else caught your eye yet or why are you still voting for Phraze? That is a very good point. Mishu has been relatively active so I feel like he'd have moved on from RVS by now. Catching up btw. :') |
Aug 19, 2017 1:30 PM
#436
Aug 19, 2017 1:37 PM
#437
Arrisu said: Coelestin said: @Arrisu What are your thoughts on Claire's defense now? Could you refer to her defense? Im still catching up and trying to analyse everything at once. Ahh, she defended herself with so many posts, I guess you'll see when you catch up ^^' |
Aug 19, 2017 1:59 PM
#438
Someone pm me on discord next time the game begins. Catching up, will post reads in +- 1/2h |
Aug 19, 2017 2:10 PM
#439
@Mishukax Mishukax said: finished skimming the thread and it's interesting. and yeah, I'd rather switch my rvs now@Phraze do you still like your RVS vote on me or does this gamestate lead you to another line of thinking? @CorruptedPurity CorruptedPurity said: I respect that. the buzz around u was very helpfulAs usual I don't participate in RVS, but since I'm obviously best town, none of you have reasons to suspect me. To be honest, I'm not all that good at scumhunting (duh), so even while I will try to do so, I'll mainly utilize my role as a cleared town to help others scumhunt. An opinion of a clear town could be quite strong, as you can factor in on the all interactions and suspicions from me without having to worry if I am scum. So if you ever need my opinion on a certain read, just ping me. Also, can I get a "I respect that" for CP, the best town? @lastwhisper31 lastwhisper31 said: CP is better alive to mafia atm, since he's gonna intoxicate us late into the game. going after him on D1 is a wasteLol, Sorry its gunna take more than a big bold banner saying "CP is best town" to confirm ur alignment in a bastard game. and how are you so sure we will conform to this? @Arrisu Arrisu said: do u find CP suspicious or just strange?Of course nobody will believe you as of yet. It is a bastard game after all. Though why are you already putting so much focus onto whether we believe you or not? I dont see a train forming against you. Strange. Arrisu said: if u don't have a strong opinion why switch rvs onto Claire?Regarding her other post. I will be looking into it further but for the moment I have no strong opinion either way. @AbuHumaid AbuHumaid said: +1@lastwhisper31 you should stop throwing unnecessary shades and stick around even if it's 2much2read |
Aug 19, 2017 2:34 PM
#440
what I get from the thread so far is... Last too much omgus. first it was CP, then Claire Arrisu said Claire was suspicious but didn't talk much with Last(who was very suspicious of Claire?). had 'no strong opinion' but agreed. dunno how 2 ppl can come to a conclusion without talking it out Coelestin also seems suspicious for having rvs and switching votes despite not being active(or I missed it) the ppl that always confuse me: Mish/Suzu/Claire/Dono which leaves these townish?: Labs/Logic/Abu/Tingle/Maitai/roz1roz not sure if I have any solid reads on anyone since there's a tpr involved, but I prefer a vote on Last for now Vote: lastwhisper31 |
Aug 19, 2017 2:41 PM
#441
Coelestin said: u were in that game? funny I don't remember lol. didn't notice so many ppl voted Last tho. is he obv scum or just bad town? kinda forgot how it gets when scum sacrifice their buds I would like a better read on u plsWelp yeah, my own vote reminds me way too much of the Great Terror, cause I did exactly the same there. I've already accomplished what I wanted to accomplish here though, so let's get onto the fun~ Vote: LastWhisper31 What do you think about Claire now, logic? @Tingle why aren't you voting yet? |
Aug 19, 2017 2:43 PM
#442
Phraze said: what I get from the thread so far is... Last too much omgus. first it was CP, then Claire Arrisu said Claire was suspicious but didn't talk much with Last(who was very suspicious of Claire?). had 'no strong opinion' but agreed. dunno how 2 ppl can come to a conclusion without talking it out Coelestin also seems suspicious for having rvs and switching votes despite not being active(or I missed it) the ppl that always confuse me: Mish/Suzu/Claire/Dono which leaves these townish?: Labs/Logic/Abu/Tingle/Maitai/roz1roz not sure if I have any solid reads on anyone since there's a tpr involved, but I prefer a vote on Last for now Vote: lastwhisper31 RIP my last like 20 posts What part of the OMGUS makes you suspicious of whisper? OMGUS isn't exactly scum indicative. |
Aug 19, 2017 2:44 PM
#443
Phraze said: Coelestin said: u were in that game? funny I don't remember lol. didn't notice so many ppl voted Last tho. is he obv scum or just bad town? kinda forgot how it gets when scum sacrifice their buds I would like a better read on u plsWelp yeah, my own vote reminds me way too much of the Great Terror, cause I did exactly the same there. I've already accomplished what I wanted to accomplish here though, so let's get onto the fun~ Vote: LastWhisper31 What do you think about Claire now, logic? @Tingle why aren't you voting yet? Silly you, I'm Chione xD Who knows, that's what I'm trying to find out here. |
Aug 19, 2017 2:56 PM
#444
What I know about lastwhisper is he is in his 6th game I believe. They were Psychopass, Kiznaiver, Robot, The Morning After, AoT (ongoing) I may have missed one. He has rolled mafia 4 out of those 5 previous games. So if he is town here he hasn't been town much and doesn't have much experience. That being said it's very reminiscent of his scum game so I am very comfortable voting and pressuring here to sort him out. |
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Aug 19, 2017 3:13 PM
#445
Arrisu said: I have not actually been mafia since I started doing this so if anything it should be a NAI to town behavior as they have only seen it come from me as town. CorruptedPurity said: lastwhisper31 said: Arrisu said: Yep, he doesnt join in on RVS.logic340 said: I don't feel am rvs vote is needed to get things going. Is this something you do regularly? He's just a cheap knockoff version of me. I started the whole "wont join RVS" gimmick So meta confirmed? |
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Aug 19, 2017 3:16 PM
#446
lastwhisper31 said: If this means what I think it means then it was a pretty silly thing to do, no? Maybe you should explain the bolded better?Arrisu said: Ya I needed a Ruu in my life to fault for it... @shotsfiredlastwhisper31 said: Labs said: Thanks for the tip, probably wont NK him then... :PCorruptedPurity said: Labs said: Also you weren't forgotten, you're allowed to claim, that's all. Actually I'd like to see you try.... Actually got me thinking. I think there would be some people who would be cheeky and vote their flavour role... If labs is CP I want him lynched, I don't trust that lil shit. On a more serious tone, I'd actually look at this RVS a bit more carefully than usual as it may be useful when people start claiming later on. Unless everyone's TPR, I doubt there's room for being a dumb ass like that ^^ As for a CP role, best.... possibly wurst case scenario I can see them holding a N1 death trigger of sorts for the lols. Conversion, bomb, some kind of target for TPR or just a benefit for anyone that hits them N1. lul trolls or not? |
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Aug 19, 2017 3:20 PM
#447
@Coelestin I see lol I will be eaten alive in this game correction: I can never read u xD RIP my last like 20 posts I can't tell if ur tpr or scum, but it looks too towny for comfort. or if ur towny and won't be lynched, u have some guarantee to survive a nightkill?What part of the OMGUS makes you suspicious of whisper? OMGUS isn't exactly scum indicative. Last bounced accusations around without a solid basis. simply cuz Logic suspected him he also started 'suspecting' Logic back |
Aug 19, 2017 3:22 PM
#448
top of my head reads: Town: Logic Town Lean: AbuHumaid, Purity (mostly off OP) Neutral: aa-dono, Arrisu, Coelestin, Misukax, Labs, Tingle, Claire Not Enough Info: Phraze, roz1roz, MaiTai, Suzune-chan Scum Lean: lastwhisper |
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Aug 19, 2017 3:23 PM
#449
Phraze said: You were both mafia in that game don't play around and act like you had to read her there. @Coelestin I see lol I will be eaten alive in this game correction: I can never read u xD RIP my last like 20 posts I can't tell if ur tpr or scum, but it looks too towny for comfort. or if ur towny and won't be lynched, u have some guarantee to survive a nightkill?What part of the OMGUS makes you suspicious of whisper? OMGUS isn't exactly scum indicative. Last bounced accusations around without a solid basis. simply cuz Logic suspected him he also started 'suspecting' Logic back What is your read on Coelestin so far? If you have trouble reading her you should work on sorting that out. |
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Aug 19, 2017 3:24 PM
#450
Phraze said: What do you find suspicious specifically? Is there a post you can link to help me understand where you are coming from?Coelestin also seems suspicious for having rvs and switching votes despite not being active(or I missed it) |
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