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reiynii said: Oh, I also know who the person I role blocked is and who they visited, so I could be useful to both parties if anything, like ask me to role block this person and that person. Up to you guys~ Town already has a roleblocker though? |
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Sleipnirr said: I say we lynch him, he won't learn if we let him go with lurking, do you want another Rinto/grrr/Abu?Rinto-kun said: Could somebody enlighten me why are we giving ironace another chance again? Cuz this is his first mafia game. |
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Coelestin said: Anyone I want :DWait. Can Frost only roleblock the ones that visit her or roleblock anybody? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Rinto-kun said: Yes, I freaking want you to claim o_0, do it now dude or you get a one-way boarding pass to lynch lane from me. This mindset is un healthy just because he doesnt anna claim doesnt make him scummy or a viable lynch target. Its weird how in the exact same scenario you would say the opposite about me not wanting to claim. |
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Coelestin said: Same.The_Pyromaani said: Anonymous: "Wen are you a thug in real life? There are more ways to fight than just one ya know? And if you read clearly i want to see others fight, not me you uncivilized and illiterate peasant!" I like this Anon xD |
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| no reason to lynch him the real frost should just counter claim him, its obvious the sk wont counter claim so its safe to say hes prob really frost. |
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| Totaly did not expected so many claims that phase change, dunno how to react to tpr claim... |
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Rinto-kun said: I say we lynch him, he won't learn if we let him go with lurking, do you want another Rinto/grrr/Abu? Nope do you think if people kept lynching him in the first day he would learn anything about mafia. |
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| vote: reiynii Better known scum than possible scum. But it sure does bother me that ironace refused to claim. Like what is with the guessing game. |
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Sleipnirr said: also about reiynii's claim she is not town aligned so I dont see any reasons to not lynch her I agree with wen's point in this if we lynch her and know for good then mafia wont be able to claim that role and create confusion towards the end of the game and we dont even know what those mats exactly do. Like you are roleblocked and they know you walked on the trap but whatelse? No ones gonna claim that role lol other than the sk Also why are we all taking the easy way out this is an open setup we know a survivor is in play so why is everyone making the assumption its the sk. |
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| IF reiynii lynch goes through its gunranteed atleast 1 scum is on that train. |
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yurkin said: Catch them for me Yurkin <3 I'll leave my soul to you m'dear ^ ^)/Totaly did not expected so many claims that phase change, dunno how to react to tpr claim... |
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wen294 said: Thanks for repeating what i just said. That sure added a whole lot. Cool sorry for having the same opinion as you. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: no reason to lynch him the real frost should just counter claim him, its obvious the sk wont counter claim so its safe to say hes prob really frost. Why should the real Frost counterclaim him if he isn't Frost? If Frost reveals herself, no one will target her anymore. |
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reiynii said: Coelestin said: Anyone I want :DWait. Can Frost only roleblock the ones that visit her or roleblock anybody? It says in the description that it works on anybody that VISITS. Needless to say the person that lives there isn't gonna VISIT. |
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| Since this is a TPR claim under pressure, we should take the safe route and lynch it. I would be open to the idea of keeping a TPR alive if the claim was made early, under no pressure, and with the intent to provide clarity to town. In this situation, we now have an option to avoid lynching a town PR and still having a pretty decent chance of catching a fakeclaim in mafia. My vote isn't moving. |
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Sleipnirr said: Shinichi-Kun said: This mindset is un healthy just because he doesnt anna claim doesnt make him scummy or a viable lynch target. Its weird how in the exact same scenario you would say the opposite about me not wanting to claim. Scenario is different this is an open setup, in closed setups by not claiming ur harming town. No reason to claim in an open setup or even force claims espically this early. |
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reiynii said: I'll make it a point to stay inactive the whole game next time since that's what the survivors seem to be doing ;-; im really sorry.....its because im a noob that you ended up in this situation :/ |
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| okay so lets do it like this if there is a real frost claim now then we will lynch this person if not lets not lynch reiynii. |
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Sleipnirr said: Rinto-kun said: I say we lynch him, he won't learn if we let him go with lurking, do you want another Rinto/grrr/Abu? Nope do you think if people kept lynching him in the first day he would learn anything about mafia. Most people learn by experience, drop them in the deep and if they manage to swim, they're good, if they sink, they drown. It's a choice of capabilities and it builds character, to me the only logical way out is to lynch him, because if he happens to be mafia, he will know that he could get by with lurking. Guess it doesn't concern you that much but our whole lynch choices are wrong imo. Why lynch the TPR even, she doesn't hinder the game nor town by any means possible? |
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Votes so far! PentaFlare (3) - (Suzune-chan, reiynii, Shinchi-Kun) Shinichi-Kun (1) - (Militus) logic340 (1) - (AbuHumaid) ironace (2) - (Rinto-kun, grrr) PTYamin (2) - (yurkin, logic340) Militus (1) - (SuzakuTsubasa) reiynii (6) - (Coelestin, PentaFlare, Sleipnirr, ironace, wen294, RE1031) Not voting: DenjaX, PTYamin, Karote, Floofs Time until Night 1! TIMER! |
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Coelestin said: Shinichi-Kun said: no reason to lynch him the real frost should just counter claim him, its obvious the sk wont counter claim so its safe to say hes prob really frost. Why should the real Frost counterclaim him if he isn't Frost? If Frost reveals herself, no one will target her anymore. So then its obvious reiynii isnt the sk |
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Coelestin said: Shinichi-Kun said: no reason to lynch him the real frost should just counter claim him, its obvious the sk wont counter claim so its safe to say hes prob really frost. Why should the real Frost counterclaim him if he isn't Frost? If Frost reveals herself, no one will target her anymore. Also i dont care about the tpr win condition i care about finding the actual sk not wasting a lynch on a survivor day 1. |
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RE1031 said: Coelestin said: Voting for inactive people most often ends up being a waste if it's longer than a few hours or if it's apparent that the person isn't there. You're wasting your vote that you rather could use to pressure other people who are possibly more active. If he's scum, it's not a waste. He's given me more reason to believe he is scum than town. And I have tried to pressure ironace, as others have, to claim, but he's refusing to. How do you feel about this refusal to cooperate? I'm not sure actually. It could be newb confusion but I'd have to re-read carefully to discern that. |
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Coelestin said: Exactly. Frost has the best chance of getting the win if she stays hidden. If it's a fake claim then the real frost would just make use of that for her night actions. She has absolutly no reason to counterclaim.Shinichi-Kun said: no reason to lynch him the real frost should just counter claim him, its obvious the sk wont counter claim so its safe to say hes prob really frost. Why should the real Frost counterclaim him if he isn't Frost? If Frost reveals herself, no one will target her anymore. Also for mafia it's tempting to claim frost as well since it's the one non-town role that isn't directly harmfull for town. It's the go-to claim for when you get copped or something along with miller. |
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Rinto-kun said: Sleipnirr said: Nope do you think if people kept lynching him in the first day he would learn anything about mafia. Most people learn by experience, drop them in the deep and if they manage to swim, they're good, if they sink, they drown. It's a choice of capabilities and it builds character, to me the only logical way out is to lynch him, because if he happens to be mafia, he will know that he could get by with lurking. Guess it doesn't concern you that much but our whole lynch choices are wrong imo. Why lynch the TPR even, she doesn't hinder the game nor town by any means possible? TPR is a better lynch than town. No, we don't know the others could be town but it's worth it. Plus there's always a chance that they're not TPR at all and are mafia. Other than that, I completely agree. Not letting ironace off the hook. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Iss night talk allowed? You are free to talk here but not strategic. So we can talk about like weather or something. Enjoy the night |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Coelestin said: Why should the real Frost counterclaim him if he isn't Frost? If Frost reveals herself, no one will target her anymore. Also i dont care about the tpr win condition i care about finding the actual sk not wasting a lynch on a survivor day 1. Why are you so focused on the SK? |
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| Thoughts on Frost - She is not harmful to town in a sense of killing townies to win. She is however disruptive to our night actions since whoever steps on her traps is roleblocked. Not saying she couldn't hit mafia or the other TPR but the chances of hitting town are much greater. That being said she isn't a hindrance to towns win and leaves the game as soon as she reaches her win con helping narrow down the PoE (suspect pool). The question for me comes down to whether we believe raney's claim or not and when we believe she'll be helpful even if we do believe that claim. Party is against our win condition so we got to take him out. I am with Shimich on this one |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Iss night talk allowed? only fluff |
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| guys we need a new lynch target I dont wanna lynch a survivor. |
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The_Pyromaani said: Oh noes you threw me?!?Anonymous: ಠ_ರೃ You really are illiterate Watching ''others fight'' is different form getting my beautiful face beat up... And if that my face after getting punched then its worth it if you got knocked the hell out like (╯°□°）╯︵ (\ x^x)\ Guess you practiced sumo huh. Lemme guess, you're claire? ps, but you're watching me fight and i'm an 'other' so you're still watching others fight. It's just that i'm fighting against you but let's not sit on the details. |
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PentaFlare said: Since this is a TPR claim under pressure, we should take the safe route and lynch it. I would be open to the idea of keeping a TPR alive if the claim was made early, under no pressure, and with the intent to provide clarity to town. In this situation, we now have an option to avoid lynching a town PR and still having a pretty decent chance of catching a fakeclaim in mafia. My vote isn't moving. I'm with this one. If I'm wrong then you can blame me. |
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The_Pyromaani said: My god this anonymous is so annoying. Why isnt he being useful like his first post?Anonymous: ಠ_ರೃ You really are illiterate Watching ''others fight'' is different form getting my beautiful face beat up... And if that my face after getting punched then its worth it if you got knocked the hell out like (╯°□°）╯︵ (\ x^x)\ |
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Coelestin said: Shinichi-kunShinichi-Kun said: Also i dont care about the tpr win condition i care about finding the actual sk not wasting a lynch on a survivor day 1. Why are you so focused on the SK? |
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wen294 said: Coelestin said: Exactly. Frost has the best chance of getting the win if she stays hidden. If it's a fake claim then the real frost would just make use of that for her night actions. She has absolutly no reason to counterclaim.Why should the real Frost counterclaim him if he isn't Frost? If Frost reveals herself, no one will target her anymore. Also for mafia it's tempting to claim frost as well since it's the one non-town role that isn't directly harmfull for town. It's the go-to claim for when you get copped or something along with miller. I dont think thats a fair assumption when people are constantly trying to pressure everyone to claim, reiynii had no choice but to claim his exact role even if it could be detremential to his winconditoon because he was being setup to get lynched regardless. |
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logic340 said: Thoughts on Frost - She is not harmful to town in a sense of killing townies to win. She is however disruptive to our night actions since whoever steps on her traps is roleblocked. Not saying she couldn't hit mafia or the other TPR but the chances of hitting town are much greater. That being said she isn't a hindrance to towns win and leaves the game as soon as she reaches her win con helping narrow down the PoE (suspect pool). The question for me comes down to whether we believe raney's claim or not and when we believe she'll be helpful even if we do believe that claim. Party is against our win condition so we got to take him out. I am with Shimich on this one We will believe because since we let reiynii go the real one would come out at worst the next phase and we will lynch her then so if she is lying she can only buy 1 day phase I dont see any bad results for this as town but we need a new lynch target probably wen if you ask me. or mili at worst. |
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Votes so far! PentaFlare (3) - (Suzune-chan, reiynii, Shinchi-Kun) Shinichi-Kun (1) - (Militus) logic340 (1) - (AbuHumaid) ironace (2) - (Rinto-kun, grrr) PTYamin (2) - (yurkin, logic340) Militus (1) - (SuzakuTsubasa) reiynii (6) - (Coelestin, PentaFlare, Sleipnirr, ironace, wen294, RE1031) Not voting: DenjaX, PTYamin, Karote, Floofs Time until Night 1! TIMER! |
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Coelestin said: Shinichi-Kun said: Also i dont care about the tpr win condition i care about finding the actual sk not wasting a lynch on a survivor day 1. Why are you so focused on the SK? cause survivor isnt harmful to town, while the sk and mafia are. This is just an easy lynch for mafia to ride on for free perks. |
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wen294 said: Coelestin said: Exactly. Frost has the best chance of getting the win if she stays hidden. If it's a fake claim then the real frost would just make use of that for her night actions. She has absolutly no reason to counterclaim.Why should the real Frost counterclaim him if he isn't Frost? If Frost reveals herself, no one will target her anymore. Also for mafia it's tempting to claim frost as well since it's the one non-town role that isn't directly harmfull for town. It's the go-to claim for when you get copped or something along with miller. Though frost doesnt put the mats to her own door though. She can put it a players door. Meaning she can put 1 to my door and if I sued my ability I would be rbed. |
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| Alright. Have to head out. This was good work this phase, but there are some players who really need to make more appearances and be part of that work. |
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Coelestin said: ah....I can definitely see this side of the argument. I still funny know how I feel about it though.PentaFlare said: Since this is a TPR claim under pressure, we should take the safe route and lynch it. I would be open to the idea of keeping a TPR alive if the claim was made early, under no pressure, and with the intent to provide clarity to town. In this situation, we now have an option to avoid lynching a town PR and still having a pretty decent chance of catching a fakeclaim in mafia. My vote isn't moving. I'm with this one. If I'm wrong then you can blame me. |
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