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Jul 18, 2016 8:25 PM
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Any Final Fantasy related protagonist.

SHIT TIER: Lightning, Vaan, Vincent

MEDIOCRE TIER: Butz, Sora, Squall

OKAY TIER: Ramza, Terra, Cecil, Marche, Riku

HIGH TIER: Roxas, Celes, Cloud, Balthier

BEST TIER: Zidane, Tidus
Jul 18, 2016 8:34 PM
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Highest of tiers: Tidus, Celes, Delita, Yuna, Zidane.
Top tiers: Terra, Ramza, Kain, Ashe.
Jul 18, 2016 8:51 PM
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95PercentCaim said:




BEST TIER: Tidus

I thought you said the most well-written, not the most obnoxious
Jul 18, 2016 9:09 PM
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xenovibe said:
95PercentCaim said:




BEST TIER: Tidus

I thought you said the most well-written, not the most obnoxious

Tidus had thought provoking moral dilemmas. Arguably some of the best material to grace the video game industry.

Just because you didn't like his voice doesn't mean he wasn't well written.
Jul 18, 2016 9:29 PM
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Thrashinuva said:
xenovibe said:

I thought you said the most well-written, not the most obnoxious

Tidus had thought provoking moral dilemmas. Arguably some of the best material to grace the video game industry.

Just because you didn't like his voice doesn't mean he wasn't well written.
Oh please, the voice was the least of his problems. The whole game and cast suffered from mediocre writing though so I can't put all the blame on him. A lot of people who still praise Final Fantasy X's story are probably doing so out of nostalgia. In retrospect, when you take out the rose tinted glasses, it has some of the most clunky and cringeworthy dialogue out of all the Final Fantasy titles, topping even XIII in that regard.
Jul 18, 2016 9:36 PM
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xenovibe said:
Thrashinuva said:

Tidus had thought provoking moral dilemmas. Arguably some of the best material to grace the video game industry.

Just because you didn't like his voice doesn't mean he wasn't well written.
Oh please, the voice was the least of his problems. The whole game and cast suffered from mediocre writing though so I can't put all the blame on him. A lot of people who still praise Final Fantasy X's story are probably doing so out of nostalgia. In retrospect, when you take out the rose tinted glasses, it has some of the most clunky and cringeworthy dialogue out of all the Final Fantasy titles, topping even XIII in that regard.


Oh look it's the rose tinted goggles of nostalgia argument yet again.

Can you actually provide an argument without buzzwords and trite reasoning?
Jul 18, 2016 9:42 PM
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SHIT TIER: Tidus, Ashe, Squall, Quina, Lulu, Rikku, Rikku (X-2), Paine, Hope, Snow, Gogo, Minfillia*, Umaro

MEDIOCRE TIER: Cecil, Cloud, Tifa, Vincent, Yuffie, Cid (FF4), Quistis, Selphie, Zidane, Auron, Yuna (X-2), Penelo, Fran, Lightning, Shadow, Gau, Edge

OKAY TIER: Faris, Lenna, Bartz, Rydia, Barret, Cid (FF7), Yang, Seifer, Irvine, Garnet/Knife, Amarant, Vaan, Locke, Edgar, Sabin, Relm, Strago, Terra, Rosa,

HIGH TIER: Balthier, Galuf, Cait Sith, Palom/Porom, Zell, Freya, Eiko, Yuna, Steiner, Wakka, Basch, Sazh, Cyan, Edward, Tellah,

BEST TIER: Celes, Kain, Vivi

That's just out of the playable command, and the main series games that I have played. *special placement for emphasis

>including Kingdom Hearts in this tier list
get out of my forum

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Graph made


(tiers of 1/2/3/4/5 were given points, and then divided the series total by the number of participating characters)

I realized I missed like half the characters in 13 and a good number of characters in 8 (Rinoa, for example)
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Jul 18, 2016 10:17 PM
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Putting Cait Sith above anything other than Shit/Mediocre tier is an indication of insanity.
Jul 18, 2016 10:28 PM
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95PercentCaim said:
Putting Cait Sith above anything other than Shit/Mediocre tier is an indication of insanity.
Cait Sith was cool okay? Double agents rank pretty high in my books. Then again you're the guy who even bothered to put edgemasters such as Cloud and Roxas into GOOD tier, as well as questionable characters such as Tidus in BEST tier
Jul 18, 2016 11:16 PM

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Haven't played much FF games myself but I agree with Tidus being at the highest tier and maybe I'd put Balthier and Zack there as well. Also I think Vaan is at least mediocre tier.
Jul 18, 2016 11:37 PM

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Syrup- said:
95PercentCaim said:
Putting Cait Sith above anything other than Shit/Mediocre tier is an indication of insanity.
Cait Sith was cool okay? Double agents rank pretty high in my books. Then again you're the guy who even bothered to put edgemasters such as Cloud and Roxas into GOOD tier, as well as questionable characters such as Tidus in BEST tier
Cait Sith: "I just gave the keystone to Shinra. I've betrayed you because I'm a spy working for Shinra" "I'm also a robot so killing me is pointless"
Cloud: "K, I won't kill you then"

Ranking a character high because of a character trait rather than because of how well he performs with his intended character trait undermines everything that makes that character trait great.

Cait Sith is a walking talking plot device and a poor excuse for a character. If you want an example of a GOOD double agent, Delita from Tactics serves as a much better example of one.

Cloud and Roxas aren't edgy given the context of the situation and I still hold Tidus as a well-written character (If you ignore X-2 and X-2.5)
Jul 19, 2016 12:30 AM

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I like them all except Lightning and Vaan, at least of the ones I've played so far (haven't played any pre-1997 yet). Vincent and Zack are nothing more than supporting characters as far as I'm concerned.
Jul 19, 2016 3:32 AM

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95PercentCaim said:
Tidus as a well-written character (If you ignore X-2 and X-2.5)

But his best moments are from X-2.5.

Jul 19, 2016 5:44 AM

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I am not sure what characters to rank actually. Should it be the MC of each game? The main hero and heroine at any rate? EFEWOIFEWOIFJKEWIFJWE

Not sure anymore fam. I give up. Tidus best FF lead tho. Fuck haters.
Jul 19, 2016 5:46 AM

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Celes is obviously the best. But Zidane is top teir too.
Jul 19, 2016 9:39 AM
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Ramza is the only answer.
Jul 19, 2016 4:48 PM

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SHIT TIER: Vaan, Penelo, Squall

MEDIOCRE TIER: Vanille, Cloud, Selphie

OKAY TIER: Sazh, Kimahri, Cid (VII), Irvine

HIGH TIER: Wakka, Zack, Zell, Zidane, Lightning, Red XIII

BEST TIER: Vivi, Tidus

All the hate on Lightning 'coz FFXIII suxxx lulz'
Jul 19, 2016 6:25 PM

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Tidus > Cloud > Squall = Zidane > Cecil > Lightning > Butz > Terra > YRP > Vaan
Jul 19, 2016 6:27 PM

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Huh... Balthier is not the protagonist of any game unless I'm forgetting some spin offs. Also Roxas is as much as a protagonist as Vaan's brother is (unless we are counting KH spin-offs then we have to add a bunch of different characters)

Good list tho.
Jul 19, 2016 6:47 PM
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the best written FF is tactics any one is disagrees does not know what good wrting is

and that me who rates tactics as the 4th best in the franchise

hell its one of the best written vide games of all time simple as
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Jul 19, 2016 6:53 PM
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95PercentCaim said:
xenovibe said:
Oh please, the voice was the least of his problems. The whole game and cast suffered from mediocre writing though so I can't put all the blame on him. A lot of people who still praise Final Fantasy X's story are probably doing so out of nostalgia. In retrospect, when you take out the rose tinted glasses, it has some of the most clunky and cringeworthy dialogue out of all the Final Fantasy titles, topping even XIII in that regard.


Oh look it's the rose tinted goggles of nostalgia argument yet again.

Can you actually provide an argument without buzzwords and trite reasoning?


FFX sould have been yuna story i found Tida[ oto use the name i know him as ]

tida is not relable ot me as a protag suld be yuna was simple as
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Jul 19, 2016 6:59 PM

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Not including FF1-3 since they barely ever said anything.

From lowest tier to highest tier:

Bartz
Terra
Squall
Cecil
Cloud
Zack
Zidane

Haven't played anything beyond FF9 so I can't say for 10 and above. But Zidane is definitely at least high tier.

Tactics doesn't count because we already know that's God Tier in terms of writing.
Jul 19, 2016 7:07 PM
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x2 and XIII had diffent siiues but if you mushed in to one game thye would be a very godd game XIII had deep Lore a but shit and restriev game play for 20 hrs of 32 hour game but and X2 and shot stpty made more covoluted by the novel [ somthign the XIII releted novles hellped with in rel ot XIII story] but X netx ot XII ZJS was the last game ot have a poper job system abd i loved that

as a overall lore XII I is ok wittten if you inclued te dada lon ind novels
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Jul 19, 2016 7:30 PM

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Thrashinuva said:
Tidus > Cloud > Squall = Zidane > Cecil > Lightning > Butz > Terra > YRP > Vaan

Also if we count Noel then he's above Lightning, perhaps above or equal to Cecil.

Meanwhile Sarah is below YRP but above Vaan.
Jul 19, 2016 8:26 PM

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95PercentCaim said:
Syrup- said:
Cait Sith was cool okay? Double agents rank pretty high in my books. Then again you're the guy who even bothered to put edgemasters such as Cloud and Roxas into GOOD tier, as well as questionable characters such as Tidus in BEST tier
Cait Sith: "I just gave the keystone to Shinra. I've betrayed you because I'm a spy working for Shinra" "I'm also a robot so killing me is pointless"
Cloud: "K, I won't kill you then"

Ranking a character high because of a character trait rather than because of how well he performs with his intended character trait undermines everything that makes that character trait great.

Cait Sith is a walking talking plot device and a poor excuse for a character. If you want an example of a GOOD double agent, Delita from Tactics serves as a much better example of one.

Cloud and Roxas aren't edgy given the context of the situation and I still hold Tidus as a well-written character (If you ignore X-2 and X-2.5)
>he's a walking plot device
I'm sure you're mad about Kain being in TOP TIER then
Jul 20, 2016 2:19 AM

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Almost every character from FFIX, especially Zidane, Vivi and Garnet.
Zack is also great, and I liked him a lot more than Cloud. Cloud is okay, and his story is a little sad, but I just liked him a lot more in CC than in the FFVII and AC.

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