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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Starts off with Shintaro and Misaki chatting about how Reiko seems really tired lately while Reiko is off having sex with Tetsu, that guy with the headband, 'somewhere' else on school grounds (right below them under the stair way). Then we finally get some h-scenes with Misaki at what appears to be a under construction parking lot. Shorty after, incomes the NTR. Shintaro gets tied up to a cement post and the two other guys, one being Tetsu, have their way with both Reiko and Misaki while Shintaro watches Reiko and Tetsu. Just one on one scenes, no group action sadly. Finally, we jump back to school where Tetsu is ordering Shintaro around (I believe) and Misaki is craving some Tetsu genitalia, being naked and all in you know, and at school. Shintaro leaves the room and sees Reiko and says nothing. Reiko enters and we get one last short h-scene with her and Tetsu. Where did Reiko go off too? Didn't get a group scene. I haven't ever had a problem with watching NTR in hentai so I didn't have any issues watching this. Although this hentai didn't really have a strong NTR feel. Maybe because Shintaro didn't break into tears or go apeshit or anything. He just watched with an expression like "Uhmm, what's going on?" Haven't seen a weak willed protagonist like him in a while, even for hentai standards. I'll need to rewatch this later when it gets subbed hoping to see answers to why he's submitting to Tetsu. Overall, I did enjoy it and this episode had plenty of h-scenes for being less than 15 minutes. |
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wckomar1 said: My problem with this is that it started out as a kinda vanilla ending story but then they twist it in an NTR. Where did those balls that Shintaro had when he was having sex with Misaki and Reiko in the manga? I hope they do something to turn it around. Though thats what most of you guys saying as well. Those balls of his were in a different manga. Episode 1 is an adaption of the Otome Dori chapter 8 and the same thing happned to Reiko in that manga that happened episode in episode 1. This epsiode apears to be orignal anime content. |
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| I just watched the wakku subbed version of ep 2. the "boyfriend" is also blackmailed to do what the "bad guy" want in order that the "bad guy" doesnt spread the photo. The blue haired girl kind of resists till the end of the ep. - whats up with the blond girl is not clear (she kind of liked the impreg./group sex rape). Classic NTR - but heres what I'm thinking ... isnt the "bad guy" kind of dumb if he spreads the photos of raping someone? I mean in rl if you release these photos you go to jail. I personally would go to the police if I was raped / witnessed a rape of someone I love / care about and I don't say please have unprotected sex with me and my friend many more times.... kind of a big hole in the stories of almost all NTR ... I dont think theres a 3 ep. and if theres one I dont think theres a good ending. look at otome dori first its NTR then for a short period its a bad dream then its NTR again but some degrees harder cause the dreamer was married to the purple haired big tits girl which I assume wasn't in love with the dreamer. and a small question are those jap. men (i think they are mostly men) who think thats this kind of stories are good/make these animes or mangas or games the boyfriends or the bad guys - I mean the bad guys always look like some gaijin. @HellgirlAi28 I'm with you on the fact of getting revenge asap. I like the ass raping idea of the bad guy ... with a baseball bat and some nails. You dont have to tape anything cause the bad guy always has the proof with him phone or camera. EDIT Also I'm searching the manga poss. subbed. Someone know where to find it? |
QuidacJun 24, 2013 12:12 AM
Quidac said: Classic NTR - but heres what I'm thinking ... isnt the "bad guy" kind of dumb if he spreads the photos of raping someone? I mean in rl if you release these photos you go to jail. I personally would go to the police if I was raped / witnessed a rape of someone I love / care about and I don't say please have unprotected sex with me and my friend many more times.... He can upload images excluding him while Reiko and Misaki would be known throughout the net since he took a picture of them with their student id cards next to them after sex. That would surely ruin their reputation throughout school and the future. As for the cops, I can't say for sure but even if he did, I'm sure Tetsu would deny it and if he hasn't uploaded the images yet, he could still use them as leverage to keep Reiko and Misaki from revealing any information, though Misaki looks like she wouldn't say anything regardless as she seems to be enjoying herself, Reiko might, assuming she hasn't broke yet, leaving Shintarou with no physical proof. Either that or the basic hentai concept of raped victims never calling cops. A lot of hentai break logic a lot more than this one has. |
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| @MyH-List Have you read the manga/played the game? Just want to know if theres a 3rd ep. and maybe a good ending for once... like in Kowaku no Toki - this one was also like NTR but the anime-maker choose the good ending instead of the possible bad endings the game had.... Also do you know where to get the manga/game? EDIT: ok found it myself thx to google.... http://www.doujin-moe.us/phpgraphy/index.php?display=H-Manga%2FDere%20Nochi%20Torare%20%28English%29%2F0001.jpg#top EDIT 2: ok doesn't seem to be for this anime but the girl is the same... and one story is kind of interessting ... the "good" guy let all the NTR things happen / arranged it to make his perfect woman... simple she is his slut / cum dumpster now. I actually want this to happen in this NTR now. Kind of interesting and something new; but I think its better to do it with your own "hands". One of the girls might get pregnant from the "bad guy". ;) SO anyone know where to get the manga of this anime? PLS? |
QuidacJun 24, 2013 9:09 AM
Quidac said: SO anyone know where to get the manga of this anime? PLS? As I said in my second post in this thread, this hentai is an adaption of one of the Otome Dori manga chapters. Chapter 8. It is not an adaption of Dere Nochi Torare manga, that just uses some of the same characters but in a different situation, basically an alternative setting. Episode 2 appears to be orignal content as there is no chapter for this episode. |
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MyH-List said: Quidac said: SO anyone know where to get the manga of this anime? PLS? As I said in my second post in this thread, this hentai is an adaption of one of the Otome Dori manga chapters. Chapter 8. It is not an adaption of Dere Nochi Torare manga, that just uses some of the same characters but in a different situation, basically an alternative setting. Episode 2 appears to be orignal content as there is no chapter for this episode. ohh page 161 to 176. mmmh. but all "story" from that chapter was included in the 1st ep. then i'm pretty sure that there will be no 3rd ep. ... disappointing... on the other hand there was no story for an 2nd ep. maybe thats the reason for so much story in the 2nd ep. thx anyway. |
| I watched these episodes knowing it was NTR (I don't mind NTR in general), but despite that I still found myself immensely pissed off after finishing the second episode. Looking at it objectively, isn't Reiko already being disgraced enough as it is? I mean she's being both blackmailed and raped while simultaneously being forced to cheat on her boyfriend. The picture getting spread around is the least of their worries. Going to the police or stealing the phone by force at this point would make sense, so the bandana guy doesn't have leverage anymore. Even if he has a better build than Shintaro, if Reiko and Shintaro teamed up they could probably pull it off. Looking at it subjectively, I wish Shintaro would try to do something. At least TRY to beat him up or something and destroying the phone, or just not care anymore and move on. I'm saying the latter because Reiko apparently seems to enjoy it at the end, which can only make me see her as a lost cause and not worth protecting anymore. I for one would never stand for something like that. In fact, I'd probably feel like spreading the pictures myself just to spite her. That sounds evil, I know... I don't think Reiko deserves Shintaro, but I also don't think Shintaro deserves Reiko for putting up with all that crap. I mean, if they're both willing to put up with that kind of crap (well, Reiko was enjoying it at the end) they obviously don't like each other THAT much. But well, I think any girl would give up on the guy they like if they just stand around and do nothing while some guy blackmails her and rapes her. What annoyed me the most with this series was Shintaro though. So weak willed and wimpy to the point I actually clenched my fist. Is there going to be an episode 3 of this? Because as much as these two episodes pissed me off I'd hate such an ambiguous ending and want it to end at least some happy note. Either Shintaro moving on and finding a new girlfriend in the end, or them being able to break the evil circle and mend their relationship. Although I expect Reiko has been corrupted too much at this point. |
ShinobudenJun 25, 2013 7:56 PM
| don't expect an episode 3 of this, what would you expect from CARN from himself anyway? his only NTR tolerable work was Otome Gari and chapter 3 and 7 of Otome Dori..where chapter 3 and 7 are vanilla stories. . .and as for Otome Gari..yes it's NTR but the MC guy beat the guys to pulp the guys who rape his childhood friend... @Quidac I personally think the whole story for Otome Dori is also as a whole is just a nightmare I just concluded..in the end of episode 2..I just assume that he wakes up again as a high school-er...he woke-up in the day where he was about to choose who will he marry, then just says both of them...I don't mean to be greedy but, if thats the way he can prevent his sister from being rape that day....and if the sister get save the pink haired chick would not get drag on all of the shit....thus after school, as the sister did say she got rape that day...in the dream...he just have to stop that from happening right? as he foresaw it in his dream...follow his sister after school, guard her..then surprise the pedophile..hit him with any weapon you bring..boom! that will prevent all of that from happening.... |
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I watched these episodes knowing it was NTR (I don't mind NTR in general), but despite that I still found myself immensely pissed off after finishing the second episode That. There isn't much in a way of commenting about this - it's just so fuckin' sad. And not just in a sad way. Holy shit I wish I haven't seen that, not even gonna add it to my list. Just forget about it. |
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| The protag is apathetic, since he doesn't seem to show any emotions when his girlfriend is NTR'ed right in front of his face (no rage, no shame, no excitement, nothing..). The yellow-haired delinquent dude is at least manly enough to not share his girl with any other people. That alone makes him more deserving of the student council president slut than the protag dude, who doesn't even seem to care. Though tbh, the protag dude's situation right now is the yellow-haired delinquent dude's future. The student council pres. does not know how to say "no" to a degree that she will probably go along with fucking with any man who approaches her, and the yellow dude seem to care a lot about this slut imo. Sooner or later she will cheat on her new sex partner...... solution: don't develop affectionate feelings for extremely fickle girl, cuz you are gonna be hurt sooner or later Lesson: those who commit netori will ultimately be NTR'ed themselves, since if a woman/man can betray once then she/he can betray twice |
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HellgirlAi28 said: OR GET A SPY TAPE RECORDER BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS HAVE TELL U AND TEASE YOU GIVE TO POLICE OR NEWS ROOM AND SENT THEY ASS TO JAIL I MEAN COME MAN THINK SHIT In fact that's how they blackmailed them: rapists themselved recorded everything and said they'd e.g. give it to the news and girls were ready to do anything to prevent it. So what you suggest to do, is exactly and precisely what they were trying to avoid. Why? Hentai logic Ma333x said: next is the other female char (the blonde one) first Time sex and she is horny just like that ? i mean come on Yeah, that's what I thought as well Quidac said: the "boyfriend" is also blackmailed to do what the "bad guy" want in order that the "bad guy" doesnt spread the photo. The blue haired girl kind of resists till the end of the ep. - whats up with the blond girl is not clear (she kind of liked the impreg./group sex rape). Classic NTR - but heres what I'm thinking ... isnt the "bad guy" kind of dumb if he spreads the photos of raping someone? I mean in rl if you release these photos you go to jail. I personally would go to the police if I was raped / witnessed a rape of someone I love / care about and I don't say please have unprotected sex with me and my friend many more times.... kind of a big hole in the stories of almost all NTR ... Well the idea is that the victims are so afraid of the news being spread out that they'd rather allow what has happened to continue and escalate than turn to police or inform anyone It's not entirely not plassible... After all it's a known fact that many victims do not inform rape because they are too ashamed, also we all heard stories about how stepfathers or anyone raped their daughters and they didn't tell anyone for years. But, of course, it doesn't even closely go to such a degree as in hentai Shinobuden said: Looking at it objectively, isn't Reiko already being disgraced enough as it is? I mean she's being both blackmailed and raped while simultaneously being forced to cheat on her boyfriend. The picture getting spread around is the least of their worries. Going to the police or stealing the phone by force at this point would make sense, so the bandana guy doesn't have leverage anymore. Even if he has a better build than Shintaro, if Reiko and Shintaro teamed up they could probably pull it off. That's not how hentai logic works, so objectiveness doesn't hold place here bunny1ov3r said: Though tbh, the protag dude's situation right now is the yellow-haired delinquent dude's future. The student council pres. does not know how to say "no" to a degree that she will probably go along with fucking with any man who approaches her, and the yellow dude seem to care a lot about this slut imo. Sooner or later she will cheat on her new sex partner...... I actually do not agree. He only cares about sex with her, and even says things like "impregnate you and get away with it" (in first episode), meaning he has no plans staying with her once he is done, anyway |
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| What it really made me hate this series is the injustice and lack of rescue that it ended with... This series got me angry, so much angry that i almost broke my computer after I finish. I could not understand why she would easily let themselves be manipulated and not seek help Until I discovered information about it. I found stupid how she just let that guy do as his pleases. But what I hated the most... is how the Mc was a fucking son of a bitch wimp who did NOTHING! He cowered in fear out of the scumbag as he got blackmailed and became their lapdog! And these two girls got broken down and saw no escape and just became lifeless sex slaves to these scumbags! And they ended as sex addicts and will never have a normal life again! And worst of all there was no justice for these girls, no rescue, no save... they had no other choice but submit. This series was the trigger for me to start doing research regarding rape, bullying, sexual harassment, sexual abuse in Japan... And when i confirmed that its true... that these things happen, and that the females does allow them to submit themselves in this Since japan is a society of shame, females allow themselves to be molested or raped before calling for help to not go through public humiliation. So not see what people will say. People in Japan prefer to maintain image before doing the right thing. And worst the police doesn't help... the police and people blames the victims of rape saying that they did something to deserve it. When I read these articles about rape in japan and police... and saw how many of these girls end up with out justice... and many ends on suicide, or as prostitutes or as lifeless sex slaves without life... I lost it... i completely lost it. I trashed my place and cried out in anger and fury at the sorrow of these women that have to go through in Japan. How Japanese people are so cold that they do not care about one another, that they prefer to maintain reputation and image before doing the right thing. That many of them (including companies and media) blackmails them to shut them up for sexual harassment so not loose face to the public. And use those blackmails to sexual abuse the women in Japan, like done here in this film... I could not take it... Specially that it also opened old wounds. This... is the film that prompted me in this quest, when I saw it months ago... the film that made me dislike Japan's people. The women are nothing... they are just objects to men. And many gets trapped without rescue in this world of despair, making them suicide to escape that torment. If I was the Mc... couldn't involve the Police because of public humiliation and the blackmail? Fine... but then I'll secretly hire thugs or make a plan myself to save these girls and beat these scumbags to a bloody pulp. Like that if I was the Mc of this film... I would had waited the opportunity ans stabbed the bastard to death on a sneak attack. Regardless, even if the girls are saved by the end of the film, its too late. The girls were broken... they were nothing more than sex pets and sex addicts... their future ruined... and would just seek another "master" to dominate them since they "cant live without sex"... I would also put them out of their misery... because they will never be able to love again... they would just love sex and will go to who ever gives it best ruining more their lives... I had so much anger in me, and not an output to let it free that, that night I dreamed that I was the Mc and slaughtered that scumbag and his friends; just like the last "villain" of the series: "Uwa-Koi", who became crazy after he learned that his girlfriend was involved in a school club of sex friends and participated in orgies and gang bangs behind his back and ended up pregnant after the videos of their gangbangs were distributed over the internet, then beated up his girlfriend provoking as miscarriage and then assassinated each and every one of the male SF club members that banged his girlfriend, including the main character... P.S. If the series would had ended with justice at the end, girls rescued and the guys arrested, i would not had this beef I have right now with this series... like another on similar theme but at the end the Mc, after discovered everything, confronted the scumbags and fought them off (even if he lost a bit at the beginning but his friends joined to save the his girl). Shinobuden said: I watched these episodes knowing it was NTR (I don't mind NTR in general), but despite that I still found myself immensely pissed off after finishing the second episode. Looking at it objectively, isn't Reiko already being disgraced enough as it is? I mean she's being both blackmailed and raped while simultaneously being forced to cheat on her boyfriend. The picture getting spread around is the least of their worries. Going to the police or stealing the phone by force at this point would make sense, so the bandana guy doesn't have leverage anymore. Even if he has a better build than Shintaro, if Reiko and Shintaro teamed up they could probably pull it off. Someone above me answered you that this is all hentai logic... I would like to elaborate you on that a bit more if you mind... to you and to the other person. Like I mentioned before on this post: This is not simply hentai logic... this actually DOES happen in japan and quite common I might add. Japan is a society of Shame, and they avoid public shame like a plague. The reason why they go with the blackmail is because they fear public humiliation. Why? Because it is a fact that Japanese people prefers to conserve Image before embarrassment... they prefer to quiet things before telling someone or as for help in fear of gosips and people bad talking behind their backs. And if people knew she was a subject of rape, they would bully and public humiliate her. Worst!!! Even The police does NOTHING! and by nothing I mean, they do not pay much attention to it and just treat it as a minor case, ignore it or humiliate the woman in public. The article I read regarding rape and the police in japan confirmed this. The report says that Police throws away rape incidents and they don't care about them. Worst, those that actually have the police intervene, the cops humiliate the victim publicly and says that the victim woman is to blame, that she did something to deserve that. Worst, they even scold the victim for "Bringing disorder to public harmony". The media also blames the victim, it all the victims fault and the rape man is innocent of his actions. This is also why you see many incidents in trains of women being molested and stay quiet. I always wondered why they don't speak up? Why they let themselves be groped? Why they dont but the best resistance they can? Because they can't... they are forced to not... because they prefer to be groped before speaking out loud and face public shame. Because if they complain, they are the ones who will be scolded for harming the "public harmony". So these women, who are victims of harassment or rape, that no other option that to let themselves be used, because they can't tell anyone out of shame. Many of these women end up on suicide to escape the torment, becomes a whore in a brothel or by self or submit a lifeless life as a sex slave to someone (mostly the perpetrator). And their mind is so broken that they can not live without having a dick (or something) stick inside their vaginas, or being sexually abused. Not to mention the ones who goes insane... at least some of those go crazy enough to kill their captors. Japan is not the paradise people believe... is a hell for the natives. We westerners are lucky that we have laws and people actually cares to make those laws work. But other countries are not so lucky... Bottom line, the reason why the heroine let herself be raped was for this reasons... and to avoid public shame. - Fortunately... early this month I read an articles that there is this lawyer feminist in Japan that is raising a campaign against this... against sexual harassment on women, against train molesting... and other women, specially mothers, are joining in and trying to make a difference. But companies, and the media are trying to oppress them, to shut them up. Because they are women, because Japan is patriarchal and men want the women to be no more than sex objects for their greed. I would join that campaign if I could... because I hate injustice and inhumane things. We are human beings... we came from millennia of evolution to be the superior species to end up in square one like animals because of our selfish desires. --edit. You know, i just saw the manga what if of this series... And if shintarou would had shown his mean streak personality when angered in the anime... The ending would had been totally different. He would had made bandana dude his bitch. |
ThatRandomDudeJun 17, 2017 12:35 AM
jawman said: "o the hentai world where justice is nothing but a word and stupid people are always beautiful women and geniuses are douchbags that rape them. and did i forget to mention that the douchbags are actually the protagonist. the above has nothing to do with the h-anime just had to get it out of me. so this is an original for the h-anime good to know...since i did like the dere nochi torare( i didnt read the btch stealing though..i did see the last 3 pages T_T) ....o yeah i believe in h-anime/manga science doesn't apply since when did we ever see someone release that amount of a numerous times almost everyday without getting the drawback iykwim..... This is the closest i've seen to the real premise/plot of the hentai story. I think you guys are missing to whole point. The target audience for this Hentai are the loser Yakuza wannabes and bitter loner otaku who'd never have a chance at the higher "class" girl who usually would shun guys like them. Bandana boy is actually the protagonist. And the good girls like sneaking big tasty delinquent cock once their shallow shield of societal purity is broken. Sure the initial blackmail threat of exposure was for Reiko. but even then in the ending of the initial scene sex scene Reiko confessed that had wanted to start some intimacy with shyboy Shintarou. but couldn't get it up hard enough during a good BJ, and that her new delinquent boy was stiffer and bigger and it felt good. And I really think the blonde girl Misaki was in on the deal. She seemed like a distraction for shyboy future lonely salaryman early on to keep him away from Reiko. Then She met up with the Bandana guy for the big reveal, cause she knew what was going on with Reiko. She wanted in too. Also Reiko started changing her undies to match her new man's desires. He didn't order her by threat. She quickly started buying Red undies after the one session. and Black by the end scene even haughtily discarding it for sexual pleasure. By the end I wouldn't even call it rape. I wouldn't even call this "mind break" like some of you have alluded to. Nothing more psychological than just a girl discovering hard sex feels real good and she's not as virtuous and pure as she thought she was. All she has left is a little sense of shaming guilt that Shintarou will remind her of until she gets to the point where she won't want to have anything to do with him anymore. Don't get me wrong i wasn't terribly fond of this series. I Hated it. I'm into blackmail stories. At best i'm OK with a serious case of genuine revenge. I.E. Class Prez is such a anal retentive bitch that gets the MC into legal/custodial trouble for no reason than to flaunt her status. This series is just generic average class prez girl getting turned into a future Tokyo whore, by a future high school drop out construction lackey. But I'm also re-evaluating the show from the perspective that the protagonist isn't who we think it is. And the shyboy "ex-BF" doesn't deserve all that much sympathy. Nor do the girls. It's a disgusting story all around. |
CirrisNov 30, 2017 4:46 PM
Whenykyk said: Just don’t watch it save yourselfs from the mad disappointment like this hentai I didn’t get off to it it’s that bad. Just because it's not up to your taste, doesn't mean no one will like it |
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| Yup, it original since other "Nochi Torare" series "Dere Nochi Torare" doesn't look the same here. Nice plot development tho. Seems like easter egg? I saw the glasses guy from kansen series there but I'm too lazy to attach that here. |
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| tbh its really bad ending, the bf of reiko, just sit there doing nothing while his gf r*pe by another guy and even become lapdog of that guy, wow amazing this hentai is really pissed me off, because reiko have pretty good art (imo) but persistently weak will, she said "i must not sway to him" at least hit him or struggle? maybe, but they didnt, there is 2 possibility, she is slut or mc like ntr. Blackmailed, wow very good excuse, if the photo spread, the uploader get free ticket to prison about spread nsfw content to public. or just call teacher, get caught both of them, adult probably also call police after that, really i really pissed off of this hentai, basically finally found loveable char and the ntr tag smash me on the head |
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DidiBoy said: The anime verion is based on chapter 8 of otome dori or (mesu nochi torare chinese version that contain the first episode ) but there is also another manga based on the 2 episodes combined , and after that it continues with dere nochi torare where the girls are back at shitarou plus one more girl . Somebody explain what happens between i mean HOWWWWWW shitarou gets the girls back ( i mean every event that happens in between the last episode of the anime and the begging of dere nochi torare , i mean in dere... shitarou got muscle and atitude than in the anime version . Somebody know something about this? Sorry if my english is bad:)) I haven't read any of them, but the only thing I can tell is that that another manga can't be based on the anime, because both mangas were released before the anime |
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