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Yuri or Yaoi?
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I like both
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Mar 8, 2013 1:38 PM

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Ghostony said:
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Yes.

Second this.

Seriously though, this is stupid. you're just asking people their sexual preference...

Its not the same, yuri and yaoi still both have larger female than male fanbases.

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Lesbian porn all the way! Every manly man would say this...

Yuri =/ porn

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Mar 8, 2013 1:44 PM

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rederoin said:

Its not the same, yuri and yaoi still both have larger female than male fanbases.

This, and i just noticed the guy who said this is the same as asking people their sexual preference lol, that's just ridiculous, it's not the same yo.

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Yuri =/ porn

That depends, in most cases both Yuri and Yaoi are just typical same-gender romances with "sexual scenes", that isn't really porn, but there are explicit porn ones, Yuri is especially porny, but then again, the Yuri i'm talking about is the one that targets the male audience, so it's kind of a given to have explicit content.
Mar 8, 2013 1:51 PM

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Downgrade355 said:

That depends, in most cases both Yuri and Yaoi are just typical same-gender romances with "sexual scenes", that isn't really porn, but there are explicit porn ones, Yuri is especially porny, but then again, the Yuri i'm talking about is the one that targets the male audience, so it's kind of a given to have explicit content.

Hentai yuri is porn, but yuri by itself does not need to have any kind of sexuel scenes for it be yuri(see : yuru yuri and sisterism).

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Mar 8, 2013 1:53 PM

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Neither tbh.

I tried watching Strawberry Panic and the "romance", if you could call it that; bored me so much that I dropped it within 3 episodes.
Mar 8, 2013 2:12 PM

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Riptos said:
Neither tbh.

I tried watching Strawberry Panic and the "romance", if you could call it that; bored me so much that I dropped it within 3 episodes.


This. Except for me it was a little different. In terms of "romance" aspect.... I found Yuri Yuri quite boring.... However the humor was pretty good.
Mar 8, 2013 2:22 PM

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Yaoi just seems wrong. The way they depict gay men, the character designs, everything. It feels kind of wrong and unnatural. I have no problems with real homosexual men but yaoi is just fucking creepy. Same with yaoi undertones or effeminate men. Plus the couples are almost always incredibly illogical.

For example, Shizuo x Izaya. They've been mortal enemies for years. They're fighting all the time and want nothing but the other person to drop dead. That's not them being tsundere. They genuinelly want to kill each other.

As for yuri, I didn't care for it at first. But the Sono Hanabira franchise almost made me forget the concept of love between a man and a woman. It felt pure and sweet instead of unrealistic and pandering like I expected it to be. I would like to find more titles like that but the majority of yuri is futanari or bondage or some weird shit like that. I literally know more yaoi titles despite actively searching for yuri.

And just one final thing. A message to the girls who say things like 'Well the guys can't complain about yaoi, they've got yuri'. Yuri is still predominately aimed at females. On top of that, it plays a much bigger part in the western fanbase. So no, we are not even and never will be.
Mar 8, 2013 2:23 PM

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Ahri said:
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Neither tbh.

I tried watching Strawberry Panic and the "romance", if you could call it that; bored me so much that I dropped it within 3 episodes.


This. Except for me it was a little different. In terms of "romance" aspect.... I found Yuri Yuri quite boring.... However the humor was pretty good.


Well in terms of romance, Yuru Yuri had little to no romance. Heck, it isn't even labeled a romance genre.
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As for yuri, I didn't care for it at first. But the Sono Hanabira franchise almost made me forget the concept of love between a man and a woman. It felt pure and sweet instead of unrealistic and pandering like I expected it to be. I would like to find more titles like that but the majority of yuri is futanari or bondage or some weird shit like that. I literally know more yaoi titles despite actively searching for yuri.


I recomment you to play Katahane, it's just like Sono Hanabira a yuri Visual Novel
Mar 8, 2013 2:28 PM

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Paul said:
Ahri said:
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Neither tbh.

I tried watching Strawberry Panic and the "romance", if you could call it that; bored me so much that I dropped it within 3 episodes.


This. Except for me it was a little different. In terms of "romance" aspect.... I found Yuri Yuri quite boring.... However the humor was pretty good.


Well in terms of romance, Yuru Yuri had little to no romance. Heck, it isn't even labeled a romance genre.


Well true, but the majority of the time I like to ship characters. So if I'm watching an anime I'd like characters to get together by the end of it. Though thankfully I didn't watch Yuri Yuri for that aspect hah.
Mar 8, 2013 2:31 PM

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Ahri said:
Paul said:
Ahri said:
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Neither tbh.

I tried watching Strawberry Panic and the "romance", if you could call it that; bored me so much that I dropped it within 3 episodes.


This. Except for me it was a little different. In terms of "romance" aspect.... I found Yuri Yuri quite boring.... However the humor was pretty good.


Well in terms of romance, Yuru Yuri had little to no romance. Heck, it isn't even labeled a romance genre.


Well true, but the majority of the time I like to ship characters. So if I'm watching an anime I'd like characters to get together by the end of it. Though thankfully I didn't watch Yuri Yuri for that aspect hah.

The series is not even finished. So it ending with the characters ending up together, even though its a gag comedy, should be expected.

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Mar 8, 2013 2:34 PM

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Wait.. I'm confused.. yuri and yaoi can be romance without adult rated scenes??
sexual incest in nisomonogatari - no one bats an eye
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Mar 8, 2013 2:35 PM

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Yurireviews said:
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As for yuri, I didn't care for it at first. But the Sono Hanabira franchise almost made me forget the concept of love between a man and a woman. It felt pure and sweet instead of unrealistic and pandering like I expected it to be. I would like to find more titles like that but the majority of yuri is futanari or bondage or some weird shit like that. I literally know more yaoi titles despite actively searching for yuri.


I recomment you to play Katahane, it's just like Sono Hanabira a yuri Visual Novel
I've still got a few more Sono Hanabiras I haven't finished but I'll be sure to play that once I'm done
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Ghostony said:
Wait.. I'm confused.. yuri and yaoi can be romance without adult rated scenes??

Yuri, yes.
Yaoi, I don't know much about it so i'm not so sure about it.

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Mar 8, 2013 2:37 PM

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Ghostony said:
Wait.. I'm confused.. yuri and yaoi can be romance without adult rated scenes??
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Mar 8, 2013 3:10 PM

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rederoin said:

Hentai yuri is porn, but yuri by itself does not need to have any kind of sexuel scenes for it be yuri(see : yuru yuri and sisterism).


I think you're misunderstanding something here, Hentai Yuri is porn-only (which is generally aimed at men), Yuri is shoujo-ai with "sexual scenes", not necessarily porn but isn't for everyone, and Shoujo-ai focuses only on the emotional relationships, Yuru Yuri is labeled as Shoujo-ai, and it's subtle at that.

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For example, Shizuo x Izaya. They've been mortal enemies for years. They're fighting all the time and want nothing but the other person to drop dead. That's not them being tsundere. They genuinelly want to kill each other.


There is no such thing as "Shizou x Izaya", that's just the shipping crap that happens within the Yaoi fandom, it stays there and it should stay there.

Ghostony said:
Wait.. I'm confused.. yuri and yaoi can be romance without adult rated scenes??


adult scenes (not necessarily intercourse, and are often heavily censored or implied) in Yuri and Yaoi are only 10% of the actual content in most cases, there are a handful of exceptions though. anyways, Yuri and Yaoi are Shoujo-ai and Shounen-ai with the "adult content", and by "adult content" it can be anything that is R-18, naked shots, ecchi, etc. don't wanna get too graphic, but i assume you get the point lol
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Downgrade355 said:

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For example, Shizuo x Izaya. They've been mortal enemies for years. They're fighting all the time and want nothing but the other person to drop dead. That's not them being tsundere. They genuinelly want to kill each other.


There is no such thing as "Shizou x Izaya", that's just the shipping crap that happens within the Yaoi fandom, it stays there and it should stay there.
I know. That's exactly what I said.
Mar 8, 2013 3:23 PM

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Thanks downgrade, I think I have a better understanding now. I voted for both since I know now it doesn't necessarily mean sex
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Mar 8, 2013 3:24 PM

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Downgrade355 said:


I think you're misunderstanding something here, Hentai Yuri is porn-only (which is generally aimed at men), Yuri is shoujo-ai with "sexual scenes", not necessarily porn but isn't for everyone, and Shoujo-ai focuses only on the emotional relationships, Yuru Yuri is labeled as Shoujo-ai, and it's subtle at that.


I'm not. Yuri does not require sex to be yuri(see : yuru yuri or sisterism).

Shoujo-ai is not a genre. Its a term made up by a bunch of western fans that had no what shoujo-ai acteally translates too.
The shoujo part refers to young girls, so saying it refers to 'girl love' makes no sense.

Yuri refers to all kind of girl-girl love, same goes for the genre.
Sisterism and yuru yuri both belong to it.

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Thanks downgrade, I think I have a better understanding now. I voted for both since I know now it doesn't necessarily mean sex

I would like to add that he is incorrect about the actual meaning of the yuri genre.

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Mar 8, 2013 3:47 PM

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Futa's, girls with dicks any day. But Yuri is fine too.
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Oh well - female - yaoi.

Never been a fan of yuri - but I don't mind it.

We don't actually get a hellva lot of 'yaoi' anime - agree with Downgrade - it requires 'adult content' and in my opinion a sex scene to be technically classed as such otherwise it's shounen-ai (although BL aka Boy's Love is the more favored term over shounen-ai I think nowadays). Mind I'm guilty of just using yaoi as a blanket term.

Originally yaoi was an acronym of Japanese words that essentially meant all sex, no plot (and originated from the doujin world). According to wikipedia, used jokingly, an alternative acronym for Japanese words for 'stop my ass hurts' LOL. Gives you some idea of when the term yaoi should be used.
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Yes.

Second this.

Seriously though, this is stupid. you're just asking people their sexual preference...


No it's not. I'm bi and don't care to watch yuri. If it was about sexual preference wouldn't I like both, including hentai?
Mar 8, 2013 4:36 PM

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@rederoin
Are we talking about the term Yuri used by the japanese or the western fandom? Yuru Yuri is labeled SHOUJO AI, not YURI, Yuri generally has adult content, but in japan they use Yuri for everything GirlxGirl regardless if it had adult content or not.

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Yeah, most people use the term BL, japanese and western. Shounen-ai is often more on the emotinal level, Yaoi and Yuri is both emotional and Physical, the adult content isn't necessarily intercourse as i mentioned, it can be anything 18+, for example a groping scene in a GirlxGirl manga that isn't used for comedic reasons is considered Yuri, Two guys hugging naked with the added sparkes (Because "it" is implied) is considered Yaoi, basically as soon as gets Physical and adult-ish then it isn't Shoujo ai or Shounen ai anymore.
Yaoi right now is used mostly for PWP or BL with heavy adult stuff, which are generally uncommon, most Yaoi's only have about 10% adult content, sometimes less. same pretty much with Yuri. Bara is PWP, and it's aimed at gay men, though quite rare lol
And of course there is Hentai-Yuri, which is lesbian porn.

There, i tried to make it clear as much as possible for y'all.
This thread's starting to get a bit silly though lol
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Are we talking about the term Yuri used by the japanese or the western fandom? Yuru Yuri is labeled SHOUJO AI, not YURI, Yuri generally has adult content, but in japan they use Yuri for everything GirlxGirl regardless if it had adult content or not.


Exactly, and since we are talking about Japanese content it should be obvious what term should be used.


Yuru yuri is published in a yuri magazine and has yuri content, thus its yuri.
The incorrect usage only generates confusion, as you can see in this thread. Which is why I'm heavily against its use

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'As of 2009, the term yuri is used in Japan to mean the depiction of attraction between women (whether sexual or romantic; explicit or implied) in manga, anime, and related entertainment media, as well as the genre of stories primarily dealing with this content.'
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SquadmemberRitsu said:
'As of 2009, the term yuri is used in Japan to mean the depiction of attraction between women (whether sexual or romantic; explicit or implied) in manga, anime, and related entertainment media, as well as the genre of stories primarily dealing with this content.'


I didn't want to get into this discussion again since I have before but this isn't a Japanese site. We don't use the same terms we do that the Japanese use.

When we look up Yuri for anime and manga on any database site (MAL, BakaUpdates, ANN, etc), we don't get series with basic stories about female relationship, we get the ones that normally include some explicit scenes, heavy or not, and in anime case, a lot being hentai.
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Paul said:
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'As of 2009, the term yuri is used in Japan to mean the depiction of attraction between women (whether sexual or romantic; explicit or implied) in manga, anime, and related entertainment media, as well as the genre of stories primarily dealing with this content.'


I didn't want to get into this discussion again since I have before but this isn't a Japanese site. We don't use the same terms we do that the Japanese use.

When we look up Yuri for anime and manga on any database site (MAL, BakaUpdates, ANN, etc), we don't get series with basic stories about female relationship, we get the ones that normally include some explicit scenes, heavy or not, and in anime case, a lot being hentai.
That's irrevelvant. By definition the western fanbase is using it incorrectly
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SquadmemberRitsu said:
Paul said:
SquadmemberRitsu said:
'As of 2009, the term yuri is used in Japan to mean the depiction of attraction between women (whether sexual or romantic; explicit or implied) in manga, anime, and related entertainment media, as well as the genre of stories primarily dealing with this content.'


I didn't want to get into this discussion again since I have before but this isn't a Japanese site. We don't use the same terms we do that the Japanese use.

When we look up Yuri for anime and manga on any database site (MAL, BakaUpdates, ANN, etc), we don't get series with basic stories about female relationship, we get the ones that normally include some explicit scenes, heavy or not, and in anime case, a lot being hentai.
That's irrevelvant. By definition the western fanbase is using it incorrectly


I don't find it irrelevant at all. I think the fact that every database site using it as a genre for more explicit female/female relationships is enough to show that the so called 'western definition' is perfectly fine.
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Paul said:
SquadmemberRitsu said:
'As of 2009, the term yuri is used in Japan to mean the depiction of attraction between women (whether sexual or romantic; explicit or implied) in manga, anime, and related entertainment media, as well as the genre of stories primarily dealing with this content.'


I didn't want to get into this discussion again since I have before but this isn't a Japanese site. We don't use the same terms we do that the Japanese use.

When we look up Yuri for anime and manga on any database site (MAL, BakaUpdates, ANN, etc), we don't get series with basic stories about female relationship, we get the ones that normally include some explicit scenes, heavy or not, and in anime case, a lot being hentai.

Which we are using to decsribe works made in Japan.

Yuri does not translate to 'shoujo-ai'.
If they use a 'western' term, which started by fans using the word incorrectly(just look up what shoujo-ai acteally means) and its not even the official defintion, then why do they keep using the Japense names for the anime series on MAL? While most western fans know Welcome to the NHK by its western name?

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rederoin said:
Paul said:
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'As of 2009, the term yuri is used in Japan to mean the depiction of attraction between women (whether sexual or romantic; explicit or implied) in manga, anime, and related entertainment media, as well as the genre of stories primarily dealing with this content.'


I didn't want to get into this discussion again since I have before but this isn't a Japanese site. We don't use the same terms we do that the Japanese use.

When we look up Yuri for anime and manga on any database site (MAL, BakaUpdates, ANN, etc), we don't get series with basic stories about female relationship, we get the ones that normally include some explicit scenes, heavy or not, and in anime case, a lot being hentai.

Which we are using to decsribe works made in Japan.

Yuri does not translate to 'shoujo-ai'.
If they use a 'western' term, which started by fans using the word incorrectly(just look up what shoujo-ai acteally means) and its not even the official defintion, then why do they keep using the Japense names for the anime series on MAL? While most western fans know Welcome to the NHK by its western name?


Describing works made in Japan on a English site.

I never mentioned that yuri doesn't translate into shoujo-ai, they are separate genres and IIRC, you consider them the same. I however, consider yuri more explicit relationship between two female characters while shoujo-ai is much lighter which is what they are when using them too look up anime/manga.

The name change shit is just MAL doing it, try not to change the subject. Just because MAL is doing it, doesn't mean the rest of the database sites are.
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Paul said:
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Paul said:
SquadmemberRitsu said:
'As of 2009, the term yuri is used in Japan to mean the depiction of attraction between women (whether sexual or romantic; explicit or implied) in manga, anime, and related entertainment media, as well as the genre of stories primarily dealing with this content.'


I didn't want to get into this discussion again since I have before but this isn't a Japanese site. We don't use the same terms we do that the Japanese use.

When we look up Yuri for anime and manga on any database site (MAL, BakaUpdates, ANN, etc), we don't get series with basic stories about female relationship, we get the ones that normally include some explicit scenes, heavy or not, and in anime case, a lot being hentai.
That's irrevelvant. By definition the western fanbase is using it incorrectly


I don't find it irrelevant at all. I think the fact that every database site using it as a genre for more explicit female/female relationships is enough to show that the so called 'western definition' is perfectly fine.

But we are not talking about a database here.

This is about using it in a discussion, and its only causes confusion when the incorrect definition is used. It makes people think that yuri only refers to anime/manga with sex in it. While anime/manga like yuru yuri and sisterism are also yuri manga.

Yuri translates to girl love.
Shoujo-ai does not translate to girl love.


It causes confession, and that's why I hope people try to stop using it.
New words being made is fine, but they should not take the place of other words.

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Paul said:


Describing works made in Japan on a English site.

Then use girl-love.


I never mentioned that yuri doesn't translate into shoujo-ai, they are separate genres and IIRC, you consider them the same. I however, consider yuri more explicit relationship between two female characters while shoujo-ai is much lighter which is what they are when using them too look up anime/manga.

Which, once again, is not how they are defined. You are still describing series that are made in Japan, yuri does not all exist in the western world as a genre.



They have never been separate genre's.

The name change shit is just MAL doing it, try not to change the subject. Just because MAL is doing it, doesn't mean the rest of the database sites are.

That was not my point. My point was that this a problem with MAL. Not the other databases.

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Paul said:
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Paul said:
SquadmemberRitsu said:
'As of 2009, the term yuri is used in Japan to mean the depiction of attraction between women (whether sexual or romantic; explicit or implied) in manga, anime, and related entertainment media, as well as the genre of stories primarily dealing with this content.'


I didn't want to get into this discussion again since I have before but this isn't a Japanese site. We don't use the same terms we do that the Japanese use.

When we look up Yuri for anime and manga on any database site (MAL, BakaUpdates, ANN, etc), we don't get series with basic stories about female relationship, we get the ones that normally include some explicit scenes, heavy or not, and in anime case, a lot being hentai.
That's irrevelvant. By definition the western fanbase is using it incorrectly


I don't find it irrelevant at all. I think the fact that every database site using it as a genre for more explicit female/female relationships is enough to show that the so called 'western definition' is perfectly fine.

But we are not talking about a database here.

This is about using it in a discussion, and its only causes confusion when the incorrect definition is used. It makes people think that yuri only refers to anime/manga with sex in it. While anime/manga like yuru yuri and sisterism are also yuri manga.

Yuri translates to girl love.
Shoujo-ai does not translate to girl love.


It causes confession, and that's why I hope people try to stop using it.
New words being made is fine, but they should not take the place of other words.


I'm using the database sites as my evidence to prove how the word is used in the English community.

And from what I remember, yuri means lily and shoujo ai does mean girl love.

And based on the link, if you want to use it the 'Japanese' way, "in Japan, shoujo-ai refers to liking little girls.", then you would be using it wrong.
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Paul said:
rederoin said:
Paul said:
SquadmemberRitsu said:
Paul said:
SquadmemberRitsu said:
'As of 2009, the term yuri is used in Japan to mean the depiction of attraction between women (whether sexual or romantic; explicit or implied) in manga, anime, and related entertainment media, as well as the genre of stories primarily dealing with this content.'


I didn't want to get into this discussion again since I have before but this isn't a Japanese site. We don't use the same terms we do that the Japanese use.

When we look up Yuri for anime and manga on any database site (MAL, BakaUpdates, ANN, etc), we don't get series with basic stories about female relationship, we get the ones that normally include some explicit scenes, heavy or not, and in anime case, a lot being hentai.
That's irrevelvant. By definition the western fanbase is using it incorrectly


I don't find it irrelevant at all. I think the fact that every database site using it as a genre for more explicit female/female relationships is enough to show that the so called 'western definition' is perfectly fine.

But we are not talking about a database here.

This is about using it in a discussion, and its only causes confusion when the incorrect definition is used. It makes people think that yuri only refers to anime/manga with sex in it. While anime/manga like yuru yuri and sisterism are also yuri manga.

Yuri translates to girl love.
Shoujo-ai does not translate to girl love.


It causes confession, and that's why I hope people try to stop using it.
New words being made is fine, but they should not take the place of other words.


I'm using the database sites as my evidence to prove how the word is used in the English community.

And from what I remember, yuri means lily and shoujo ai does mean girl love.

And I do not agree with those sites.
They only cause confusion, like I said before.

And TV tropes is simply incorrect. Yuri has multiple meanings, one of which is 'girls love'.


Please just stop using the word, it just just creates confusion. Most yuri fans acteally dislike the term.

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rederoin said:
Paul said:
rederoin said:
Paul said:
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Paul said:
SquadmemberRitsu said:
'As of 2009, the term yuri is used in Japan to mean the depiction of attraction between women (whether sexual or romantic; explicit or implied) in manga, anime, and related entertainment media, as well as the genre of stories primarily dealing with this content.'


I didn't want to get into this discussion again since I have before but this isn't a Japanese site. We don't use the same terms we do that the Japanese use.

When we look up Yuri for anime and manga on any database site (MAL, BakaUpdates, ANN, etc), we don't get series with basic stories about female relationship, we get the ones that normally include some explicit scenes, heavy or not, and in anime case, a lot being hentai.
That's irrevelvant. By definition the western fanbase is using it incorrectly


I don't find it irrelevant at all. I think the fact that every database site using it as a genre for more explicit female/female relationships is enough to show that the so called 'western definition' is perfectly fine.

But we are not talking about a database here.

This is about using it in a discussion, and its only causes confusion when the incorrect definition is used. It makes people think that yuri only refers to anime/manga with sex in it. While anime/manga like yuru yuri and sisterism are also yuri manga.

Yuri translates to girl love.
Shoujo-ai does not translate to girl love.


It causes confession, and that's why I hope people try to stop using it.
New words being made is fine, but they should not take the place of other words.


I'm using the database sites as my evidence to prove how the word is used in the English community.

And from what I remember, yuri means lily and shoujo ai does mean girl love.

And I do not agree with those sites.
They only cause confusion, like I said before.

And TV tropes is simply incorrect. Yuri has multiple meanings, one of which is 'girls love'.


Please just stop using the word, it just just creates confusion. Most yuri fans acteally dislike the term.


Well I'm not gonna deepen this discussion as I'm not trying to convert you to change your way you use the word, I could care less about that. I'm was simply stating the way most people use it. Yes, I said most.

This will probably be my last post for now since I'll have to get off.
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In 2D, Yuri is pleasant.

In the real world however, I found Gay men more pleasant.They're usually very gentle in nature(Asking their "boyfriend" to help him find his hair conditioner/foundation set and crap like that) and are always... well, good natured and soft spoken. Seem like 2 person born of the wrong gender and product of love.

As oppose to real life Lesbians I know... They're usually a lot more... Rough, wear broken jeans, spitting out bad words like its what they breath day in and day out... Sometimes give me the eyes when I talk to their "girlfriend". It's like they deliberately act tough to scare away other guys or something, I donno.


Maybe it's just me...
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Lol Air, those are just stereotypes...
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AirStyles said:
In 2D, Yuri is pleasant.

In the real world however, I found Gay men more pleasant.They're usually very gentle in nature(Asking their "boyfriend" to help him find his hair conditioner/foundation set and crap like that) and are always... well, good natured and soft spoken. Seem like 2 person born of the wrong gender and product of love.

As oppose to real life Lesbians I know... They're usually a lot more... Rough, wear broken jeans, spitting out bad words like its what they breath day in and day out... Sometimes give me the eyes when I talk to their "girlfriend". It's like they deliberately act tough to scare away other guys or something, I donno.


In what world do you live in?

AirStyles said:
Maybe it's just me...


Undoubtely.
Mar 8, 2013 7:24 PM

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All the love man. All of it. Seriously, if two people seem really compatible then I ship them hard. I really don't care if they're a girl or a dude.
Mar 8, 2013 7:38 PM

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As far as the 'yaoi is creepy' debate goes... I've read plenty of good shounen-ai and plenty that are not so good. I agree that most yuri is of a higher quality than most yaoi, but it's not like all yaoi is awful.

I think the majority of the western fandom is creeped out by yaoi because of the infamous rabid fanbase. Pairings like Shizuo/Izaya can be fun for the occasional crack coupling but the fujoshi who think they have any actual subtext are stupid. And it's ridiculous how many fangirls ignore everything and everyone else in the show for that pairing.

Back on topic, I think yaoi can only really be considered good if it's a) canon and b) has an actual plot that's not just about sex.
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Male, and I go with neither, because that kind of porn doesn't do anything for me. I'd rather watch straight porn.

If you mean the terms in the general not-porno sense, then I have watched a few. Kannazuki no Miko (shoujo-ai) was pretty good in my opinion, and I've also seen No. 6 (shounen-ai) which I managed to complete.
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Mar 8, 2013 7:51 PM

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yuri
RRRRRRRRRR
Mar 8, 2013 8:43 PM

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I've seen some yaoi scenes via youtube.....it's nasty, I'm a girl but I just can't tolerate watching anime like that :p
Mar 8, 2013 9:15 PM

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Yuri. I've been a fan for too long, not going to stop now.

I think it just overall looks softer and more carefree than yaoi. Both can be cute, and I've seen some really cool manga covers on Amazon that are yaoi, but I'm just not as interested in it as some other people are/can get.

Plus, the yuri fanbase isn't as...scary.

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Plus, the yuri fanbase isn't as...scary.


Have you..... tried talking to a few guys?
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yhunata said:
Nabris said:
Plus, the yuri fanbase isn't as...scary.


Have you..... tried talking to a few guys?
I have.... yuri fans aren't nearly as creepy
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AirStyles said:
In 2D, Yuri is pleasant.

In the real world however, I found Gay men more pleasant.They're usually very gentle in nature(Asking their "boyfriend" to help him find his hair conditioner/foundation set and crap like that) and are always... well, good natured and soft spoken. Seem like 2 person born of the wrong gender and product of love.

As oppose to real life Lesbians I know... They're usually a lot more... Rough, wear broken jeans, spitting out bad words like its what they breath day in and day out... Sometimes give me the eyes when I talk to their "girlfriend". It's like they deliberately act tough to scare away other guys or something, I donno.


Maybe it's just me...


Some lesbians might fit into that image but most just don't.
You probably see things like you do because you can't tell apart homosexual girls from hetersosexual ones.
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I'm a girl and I prefer Yaoi. More precisely, Shounen-Ai, since I don't watch porn stuff. I like Shoujo-Ai too though, but there's something I like better in Shounen-Ai, I think the relation between the characters is deeper, more mysterious, and more interesting. Shoujo-Ai is cuter.
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i like both. but there are differences for me.

yuri usually focuses more on friendship. i have seen and read some shouju-ai (and even yuri) where i wouldn't have realized that they love each other if i hadn't read the categories or tags.
but if you can see that they love each other then it's just really, really cute.

yaoi is usually... rougher. i have read and seen some yaoi where i felt really, really uncomfortable because their sex felt so forced that it looked like rape. this is something i truly don't like. but if the sex scenes are done "correctly", then it can be really hot.

and that's the difference for me - yaoi is more passionate and yuri is cute and adorable.

so it depends on my mood which i prefer.
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I'm female and I prefer yaoi, but I don't really have a problem with yuri, it's just not really something I'd go and look for.

Honestly though, I dislike most of the hardcore stuff, so it's technically shonen-ai (and shoujo-ai) that I like.

For the record, I only ships things that I can see subtext for. Like say, I despise Shizaya because I love DRRR and have read all of the translated novels, watched the anime several times, and I, who is always on the lookout for yaoi-subtext, see absolutely nothing. And the entire DRRR fandom is filled with delusional Shizaya shippers--- I'll stop there, but I could rant over that fanmade-pairing forever.
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For what regards me, I simply don't watch these kind of anime. They simply don't look appealing to me.
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