Forgetfulness said: mattbenz99 said: Oh, it's an excuse if I want to get a translation that is as close to the actual meaning as possible?i feel like localization is just a dub hater standard excuse to bash dubs. i mean i doubt most of the people who use it as an excuse really know what it means. most dubbing companies are not 4kids. they dont localize and on the rare occasion when they do it is because there is no way to translate something and not because they hate the material or whatever you dub haters believe Okaaaayyy, and I'll just "feel" that not being able to read fast enough is "just a dumb sub hater excuse for those who are illiterate and/or uneducated" unless you actual have some problem preventing you from reading what does it matter if it is 100% exactly like the original? as long as the story is the same you will pretty much get the same experience. heck i was a dub purist for years and now that i watch subs also i dont even notice a difference between subs and dubs |
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insan3Spectre said: mattbenz99 said: you make it sound like watching a dub is a war crime and should never be done under any circumstances True. War crime = watching dubbed version. |
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| yeh i really disagree. i do not even notice i am reading subs. its just natural when u watch anime every day for many years. and its simply wrong that you are distracted and miss visuals or audio. your problem seems to be that you are not focused enough. i know ppl that watch anime while chatting on some anime streaming sites. that is the WORST possible thing you can do. you just have to concentrate on what you are watching and stay focused. and the more subs you read the easier it gets. |
insan3Spectre said: mattbenz99 said: you make it sound like watching a dub is a war crime and should never be done under any circumstances Woah, wait....what? When the hell did I ever say that or even imply it? I'm just saying it isn't that difficult to rewind subtitles. sorry i was talking about most dub haters in general because that is what they act like when you mention that you watched a show dubbed |
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Kerozinn said: your problem seems to be that you are not focused enough. i know ppl that watch anime while chatting on some anime streaming sites. that is the WORST possible thing you can do. you just have to concentrate on what you are watching and stay focused. and the more subs you read the easier it gets. I don't see how that's distracting at all. I've played games while watching anime and had little to no difficulty focusing on either the anime I was watching or the game I was playing. |
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Sung-Hwan said: the difference is i watch subs also WAS THIS DIRECTED AT YOU? |
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| How the fuck did this thread turn into a Sub vs Dub thread, again? |
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yhunata said: How the fuck did this thread turn into a Sub vs Dub thread, again? I thought this already was sub vs dub thread. My mistake then. |
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Forgetfulness said: Sung-Hwan said: And according to you, watching subs makes you a weaboo for some reasonIt is a war crime. It doesn't matter if the dub has an all-star voice cast of celebrities, because it's not Japanese, and therefore not the "original." You get me? Not simply watching it, but preferring it. |
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Forgetfulness said: yhunata said: As if that was ever a surpriseHow the fuck did this thread turn into a Sub vs Dub thread, again? Good point. |
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yhunata said: How the fuck did this thread turn into a Sub vs Dub thread, again? Of course it is. With a thread title like that how could it not? |
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yhunata said: Kerozinn said: your problem seems to be that you are not focused enough. i know ppl that watch anime while chatting on some anime streaming sites. that is the WORST possible thing you can do. you just have to concentrate on what you are watching and stay focused. and the more subs you read the easier it gets. I don't see how that's distracting at all. I've played games while watching anime and had little to no difficulty focusing on either the anime I was watching or the game I was playing. depends on the anime. miss a few lines of subs and might not udnerstand what is going on. |
| I feel kind of sorry for people that lack the reading comprehension to watch an anime with subs. |
Makomonogatari said: lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.And the best part is that no one can prove it wrong |
geezdad said: I feel kind of sorry for people that lack the reading comprehension to watch an anime with subs. it has nothing to do with reading level. it has to do with people preferring to hear dialogue over reading dialogue |
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mattbenz99 said: geezdad said: I feel kind of sorry for people that lack the reading comprehension to watch an anime with subs. it has nothing to do with reading level. it has to do with people preferring to hear dialogue over reading dialogue So one cannot hear Japanese dialogues? Why can I not genuinely prefer hearing Japanese instead of English in anime? |
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Forgetfulness said: mattbenz99 said: No, there are people who say that they legitimately cannot read subs and pay attention at the same time ._.geezdad said: it has nothing to do with reading level. it has to do with people preferring to hear dialogue over reading dialogueI feel kind of sorry for people that lack the reading comprehension to watch an anime with subs. Shouldn't you know this, considering the number of Sub vs. Dubs arguments you've been in? yes there are probably a few people who actually have problems like that but they are in the minority |
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Sung-Hwan said: It is a war crime. It doesn't matter if the dub has an all-star voice cast of celebrities, because it's not Japanese, and therefore not the "original." You get me? By this conception, dubs should have never been created in the first place, right? After all, it will never be the "original" |
yhunata said: Kerozinn said: your problem seems to be that you are not focused enough. i know ppl that watch anime while chatting on some anime streaming sites. that is the WORST possible thing you can do. you just have to concentrate on what you are watching and stay focused. and the more subs you read the easier it gets. I don't see how that's distracting at all. I've played games while watching anime and had little to no difficulty focusing on either the anime I was watching or the game I was playing. It may be true if the game consisted of pressing one button every 10 seconds, otherwise I find this very unlikely... |
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Otouto said: mattbenz99 said: geezdad said: I feel kind of sorry for people that lack the reading comprehension to watch an anime with subs. it has nothing to do with reading level. it has to do with people preferring to hear dialogue over reading dialogue So one cannot hear Japanese dialogues? Why can I not genuinely prefer hearing Japanese instead of English in anime? you can hear the japanese dialogue but i makes no sense unless you actually speak japanese. also i am not saying that you cant watch subs but just dont be a dub hater |
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mattbenz99 said: If you took the time to read the OP and the title of the thread you would come to the conclusion that it is in fact about reading comprehension.geezdad said: I feel kind of sorry for people that lack the reading comprehension to watch an anime with subs. it has nothing to do with reading level. it has to do with people preferring to hear dialogue over reading dialogue |
Makomonogatari said: lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.And the best part is that no one can prove it wrong |
mattbenz99 said: Otouto said: mattbenz99 said: geezdad said: I feel kind of sorry for people that lack the reading comprehension to watch an anime with subs. it has nothing to do with reading level. it has to do with people preferring to hear dialogue over reading dialogue So one cannot hear Japanese dialogues? Why can I not genuinely prefer hearing Japanese instead of English in anime? you can hear the japanese dialogue but i makes no sense unless you actually speak japanese. also i am not saying that you cant watch subs but just dont be a dub hater So it doesn't make sense if I prefer Japanese over English music if I don't understand it? |
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AstronomyDomine said: Sung-Hwan said: It is a war crime. It doesn't matter if the dub has an all-star voice cast of celebrities, because it's not Japanese, and therefore not the "original." You get me? By this conception, dubs should have never been created in the first place, right? After all, it will never be the "original" +1 |
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Otouto said: So it doesn't make sense if I prefer Japanese over English music if I don't understand it? music is different. it has less to do with with understanding what they are saying and more to do with the catchyness of the song and the beat etc. heck millions of people like gangnam style and dont even realize that it is a satirical song making fun of a rich district in south korea Mod Edit: quote tower fixed. |
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geralt said: yhunata said: Kerozinn said: your problem seems to be that you are not focused enough. i know ppl that watch anime while chatting on some anime streaming sites. that is the WORST possible thing you can do. you just have to concentrate on what you are watching and stay focused. and the more subs you read the easier it gets. I don't see how that's distracting at all. I've played games while watching anime and had little to no difficulty focusing on either the anime I was watching or the game I was playing. It may be true if the game consisted of pressing one button every 10 seconds, otherwise I find this very unlikely... I was playing Pokemon (FireRed, Emerald, HeartGold and Platinum), Ace Attorney, FF6 and FF1 (one at a time, on emulators). Not really that difficult, to be honest. Ace Attorney was a bit distracting, I'll admit, due to it's heavy dialogue. |
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mattbenz99 said: music is different. it has less to do with with understanding what they are saying and more to do with the catchyness of the song and the beat etc. heck millions of people like gangnam style and dont even realize that it is a satirical song making fun of a rich district in south korea I actually do care about lyrics. I cannot listen to something without looking up the lyrics if it's in some foreign language. Also, can you please STOP speaking for me? Mod Edit: quote tower fixed. |
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Sung-Hwan said: So one cannot hear Japanese dialogues? Why can I not genuinely prefer hearing Japanese instead of English in anime? you can hear the japanese dialogue but i makes no sense unless you actually speak japanese. also i am not saying that you cant watch subs but just dont be a dub hater By the logic of many sub only viewers, if you watch subs, you can learn Japanese by picking up on common phrases or sayings. Therefore, it's still better than a dub. yes after watching a couple hundred series subbed you may get a vague understanding of the language which will only help you understand anime and not real japanese because japanese people dont speak the way they do in anime Otouto said: I actually do care about lyrics. I cannot listen to something without looking up the lyrics if it's in some foreign language. Also, can you please STOP speaking for me? how was i speaking for you specifically there? Mod Edit: quote tower fixed. |
ThangLongFeb 10, 2014 10:44 AM
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| It also depends on where u live. Some countries use subtitles everywhere so its easier for users who come from those countries because they're used to reading subs from a young age me included :) |
| I don't have any problem with understanding what's going on. Subtitles aren't a trouble to me, they don't distract me. |
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| Being half blind also plays an important role in this as well. If you can only see really good in one eye and not so much in the other, you are definitely going to have some problems focusing on both at the same time, I know because I'm half blind too. So enough of this Sub vs Dub crap. Nobody gives a shit. You like what you like and I like what I like. That's how it should be. |
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Sung-Hwan said: But people feel the urge to often express why subs are better than dubs, and antagonize those who do not agree with them. It's sad. But they are |
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Jamie-sama said: Ahem, read my post,I don't understand how anyone cannot watch an anime and not be able to read subs at the same time. I don't even notice i'm reading the subs, I just watch the screen. Kirishiro-chan said: Being half blind also plays an important role in this as well. If you can only see really good in one eye and not so much in the other, you are definitely going to have some problems focusing on both at the same time, I know because I'm half blind too. So enough of this Sub vs Dub crap. Nobody gives a shit. You like what you like and I like what I like. That's how it should be. That is why. Some people are half blind like myself, and that is why we find it very hard. |
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| This is why I like watching English dubs of animes, but watching it in subs is just as good since I can read it fast. Normally, I just glance at the words really quick and I can get the understanding of it. |
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Kirishiro-chan said: How many people watching dubs do you think are half blind? I don't even know one person who's half blind and I know a lot of people who watch dubs.Jamie-sama said: Ahem, read my post,I don't understand how anyone cannot watch an anime and not be able to read subs at the same time. I don't even notice i'm reading the subs, I just watch the screen. Kirishiro-chan said: Being half blind also plays an important role in this as well. If you can only see really good in one eye and not so much in the other, you are definitely going to have some problems focusing on both at the same time, I know because I'm half blind too. So enough of this Sub vs Dub crap. Nobody gives a shit. You like what you like and I like what I like. That's how it should be. That is why. Some people are half blind like myself, and that is why we find it very hard. |
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Sung-Hwan said: They're not. There, I stated my opinion and you stated yours. Now the question is if we can come to a mutual understanding, and whether or nor weeaboos will jump to the immediate defense of subs. I don't get it, it's not an opinion tho |
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