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Mar 21, 2012 3:25 AM
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Wow
Kabuto a sage?
What will Itachi and Sasuke do this is getting very intreasting.
Mar 21, 2012 3:27 AM
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Wish Kabuto would hurry up and die he is my most hated character in the Naruto universe.

Watch Itachi sacrifice himself again for Sasuke to live.
Mar 21, 2012 3:54 AM
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oh boy... kabuto ugliest dragon in the History of the Universe
Mar 21, 2012 3:56 AM
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did they tune down Sasuke's emoness in this chapter...
Mar 21, 2012 4:10 AM
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OH YEAH! Kabuto in sage mode!

I want to see the battle! Can't wait no more!
Mar 21, 2012 4:17 AM
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Kabuto's sage mode, i never expected that
Im glad Dr.Snakes isnt emo today
And who wouldve guessed Karin was part of the Uzumaki clan
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Sage mode or not his eyeglasses still attached :]
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Mar 21, 2012 4:42 AM
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Zakeru1221 said:
did they tune down Sasuke's emoness in this chapter...

Thanks to Itachi's appearance of course :D It's so awesome to see them battle side by side xD => MOST AWESOME BROTHERS!
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Dragon sage? Worst dragon ever.

Anyways, Uzumaki Karin. Very Orochimaru-ish to hide the last Uzumaki (I don't consider Naruto as a real Uzumaki) in a cave in the middle of the ocean.

I'm not really interested in Kabuto, he looks weak and boring. That makes the whole fight with Sasuke & Itachi rather boring for me.
Can't wait for Tobi, but I think Madara vs Kages is gonna be the next fight since the fight with Tobi is probably the most important one.
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Mar 21, 2012 4:59 AM

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lol Dragon Sage, since the Uchiha is known for fire techniques then Kabuto the dragon automaically fails since you cannot fight Fire with Fire
Mar 21, 2012 5:02 AM

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Finally a snake sage, got tired of seeing the frog sage.

Dr.Snakes lol.
Mar 21, 2012 5:20 AM

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Oh man this color pages ..
And dragon sage ? Oo
Mar 21, 2012 5:40 AM

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Sage Kabuto? Interesting... though not as cool as Sage Naruto. :P

Uzumaki Karin? Really? LOL, I'm surprised Team Taka was actually mentioned. At least they're not completely out of the story now.

Ever since Sasuke got Susanoo, it kind of feels like he's less calm and collected in fights. He seems to rush things and use everything with brute power. I miss the times when he's more analytical in fights. Then again, I think it's just an outside impression this chapter is giving me (and maybe because Itachi is here and he's always the more quieter one).

(And the details of the Sharigans are starting to make Sasuke look like he has glittery eyes in some smaller panels..)
Mar 21, 2012 5:48 AM

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wow.. karin is uzumaki..
and snake sage..
good chapter indeed.

Mar 21, 2012 6:03 AM

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Aside from the still completely retarded, unnecessary explanations, this is the best chapter of this arc yet.
4/5
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Mar 21, 2012 6:05 AM

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Wah, how could Kishimoto dirty such a awesome creature as dragon with Kabuto?
Also I wouldn't mind if there was only a fight between Kabuto and Itachi... I just can't bear looking at that emo kid...
Kurama was kind of cute ♥ I wonder what can happen if Naruto will burst his bubble :D
Mar 21, 2012 6:34 AM

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am I the only one who already guessed Karin to be an Uzumaki? With all the "Uzumaki's amazing red hair" and Karin having bright red hair and all c':
and I actually think there are more - Kushina once said that after the destruction of Uzushio Village members of the Uzumaki Clan fleed and hid with a new identity (chapter 500).

glad Sasuke was rather... emotionally stable this chapter but Kabuto was more than an ugly motherfucker dear lord


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Other than a moment of extreme nerdiness, Sasuke seemed almost normal this chapter. I missed his 'analyze-opponent-fight-accordingly' side, but the best part was Itachi making fun of him.
Uhm, if Karin is an Uzumaki, what is she to Naruto? Cousin? Aunt? And it doesn't seem like Sasuke's going to tell it to Naruto anytime soon, so I wonder whether he'll find out... It seems like one of those sub-plot hooks.
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Mar 21, 2012 7:20 AM
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omg kabuto in sage mode
and karin from uzumaki !!
Mar 21, 2012 7:51 AM
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"AND I'M A DRAGON NOW!!"

And then the Narm hit a series high.
Seriously, this has to be up there as a crowning achievements in Narm for the medium. The perfect mix of silly and stupid… I would have burst out laughing, but I had to hold it in for fear of waking others. Just… WOW.
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Arashi89 said:
Uzumaki Karin?! Really Kishimoto?! Now what, Jiraya was actually from Uzumaki too?! And what about Rock Lee, he has a ton of stamina, he must be an Uzumaki too!! Maybe even Nagato is part of the Uzumaki clan, who knows! Even Gaara, since he has red hair!! Or Tayuya! And Sakura has pink hair, maybe he's a descendant of the Uzumaki clan but her mother/father married a person with white hair!! Also, the Fourth Mizukage has red hair too!!! EVERYONE WITH RED HAIR IN THIS FUCKING WORLD IS RELATED TO THE UZUMAKI WHY IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE AAAAAAAAAARGRGSDGDFSDFSDEFWEONGWJLSGVFWOIWOLEFNWEFOW!!!

FUCK YOU KISHIMOTO AND LEARN GENETICS!!


Actually Nagato is indeed from the Uzumaki clan.
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Reading other forums, it seems like a lot of people have already speculated about Karin being part of the Uzumaki clan, so it turned out to be unsurprising for them. I don't know why I completely looked past Karin's "red hair". Maybe because it actually doesn't look that red in the anime - reminds me more of a magenta pink instead. Regardless, I don't think Karin actually has any direct relations with Naruto. The Uzumaki clan is not a small clan in the past anyway.

On a sidneote... with Sage Naruto and Sage Kabuto, it would be nice to see Sasuke in sage mode (obviously won't happen but it's a nice thought). Hawk Sage perhaps? :D
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Arashi89 said:
Uzumaki Karin?! Really Kishimoto?! Now what, Jiraya was actually from Uzumaki too?! And what about Rock Lee, he has a ton of stamina, he must be an Uzumaki too!! Maybe even Nagato is part of the Uzumaki clan, who knows! Even Gaara, since he has red hair!! Or Tayuya! And Sakura has pink hair, maybe he's a descendant of the Uzumaki clan but her mother/father married a person with white hair!! Also, the Fourth Mizukage has red hair too!!! EVERYONE WITH RED HAIR IN THIS FUCKING WORLD IS RELATED TO THE UZUMAKI WHY IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE AAAAAAAAAARGRGSDGDFSDFSDEFWEONGWJLSGVFWOIWOLEFNWEFOW!!!

FUCK YOU KISHIMOTO AND LEARN GENETICS!!


Actually Nagato is indeed from the Uzumaki clan.
And then there was irony.

Though this doesn't really bother me. She had no family history and the single most solid indicator of that clan's lineage, so it makes sense in retrospect. Especially with that weird reverse-vampiric healing ability of hers — a powerful life force adds some context to that.
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Kabuto is a sage.. really...
Karin is an Uzumaki. Thats pretty cool, if she and naruto find that out at least they know their not the last uzumaki.
Mar 21, 2012 8:46 AM

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Hum ...
Guys, do you remember red hair are from Uzumaki ?
It's not that much disturbing. :s
Mar 21, 2012 8:51 AM

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Dr. Snakes made my day
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Hum ...
Guys, do you remember red hair are from Uzumaki ?
It's not that much disturbing. :s


Then Gaara and the fourth Mizukage are related to Naruto after all. The Uzumaki clan never went out of the Spiral hidden village until it was destroyed, but they found a way to magically pass on the bloodline to pepole they never met without sexual intercourse. Yup, this makes so much sense!!
Mar 21, 2012 9:08 AM

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I didn't know Karin was an Uzumaki.

Kabuto in sage mode lol
Mar 21, 2012 9:33 AM

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Arashi89 said:
ShiroiRyu said:
Hum ...
Guys, do you remember red hair are from Uzumaki ?
It's not that much disturbing. :s


Then Gaara and the fourth Mizukage are related to Naruto after all. The Uzumaki clan never went out of the Spiral hidden village until it was destroyed, but they found a way to magically pass on the bloodline to pepole they never met without sexual intercourse. Yup, this makes so much sense!!


kishimoto can make them uzumaki's too, but i don't think so about gaara. but why not the fourth mizukage?
about gentics.. it's kishimoto's world.. he can do everything he wants in it, so i don't think that you should be that disturbed by that red hair thing.. just accept it as it is. it's like the power of friendship or other things that you commonly meet in other mangas :)

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Arashi89 said:
ShiroiRyu said:
Hum ...
Guys, do you remember red hair are from Uzumaki ?
It's not that much disturbing. :s


Then Gaara and the fourth Mizukage are related to Naruto after all. The Uzumaki clan never went out of the Spiral hidden village until it was destroyed, but they found a way to magically pass on the bloodline to pepole they never met without sexual intercourse. Yup, this makes so much sense!!


I don't see where your irritation comes from, it has no real meaning. I don't see why Karin can't be from Uzumaki clan. It's a fucking CLAN, not a family consisting of 5 members.
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im thinking though, if that dude theory is correct, then the uchiha were all incesting :d
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Oh dear, the Kyuubi is SOOO cute! I like how he's shown with the other members of team Kakashi, I suppose this is going to grant him member status since he is working with Naruto now. It will be cool to see how they interact.

Arashi89 said:
ShiroiRyu said:
Hum ...
Guys, do you remember red hair are from Uzumaki ?
It's not that much disturbing. :s


Then Gaara and the fourth Mizukage are related to Naruto after all. The Uzumaki clan never went out of the Spiral hidden village until it was destroyed, but they found a way to magically pass on the bloodline to pepole they never met without sexual intercourse. Yup, this makes so much sense!!


Well yeah, it's just like the Jewish diaspora, after the destruction of the temple in Judea in 70 A.D. they spread through the whole world and can be found in significant numbers from Cambodia to Argentina to Norway and practically all other nations. Why would the Uzumaki be different? They were an entire nation too.
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well, Kabuto just transcended into the ultimate land of WTF WAS THAT?!? Itachi's wtf face was pretty great. A dragon?! Seriously?! Last week there were dragons everywhere in Anime, but you didn't have to go this far, Kishi...

I have to admit, the "kawaii kyoudai combo" is pretty lovable, but it's still hard to see Sasuke like this all of a sudden, especially after his recent berserkers.

And Kishi's pretty bad at explaining too much in the dialogue as it's convenient. The Uzumaki Karin thing really got me, and the convenient Suigetsu lube is just too slippery for me. The sage thing is the worst offender though, when did that happen?! that's a big deal! you can't go off explaining Kabuto's power-ups when it's most convenient! Kishimoto's spread too thin, there's too much going on and he can't keep track of everything (and neither can us readers) so it's falling apart. Kishimoto-sensei, go read One Piece!!
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GINTAMA... I'LL BE WAITING FOR YOUR LEVELED-UP RETURN!!!! I'M WAITING FOR YOU... KINTAMA!!!!!?!!

For the rest of you waiting with me... GO READ GINTAMA NOW!! (start at 372 where the anime left off)
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Mar 21, 2012 9:58 AM

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Well it seems like Karin was confirmed to be an Uzumaki.
And just when you thought that Kabuto couldn't get any creepier...rofl.
Btw am I the only one who laughed his ass off once I saw that huge snake chilling and having a smoke on that chair?

Quite a decent chapter. The translation makes it feel a little bit out of place though, Dr.Snakes...the hell?
4/5 anyways

Oh and the color spread was kinda nice. It was a little sketchy but it's been a while since we have seen the Konoha scenery, so that was a nice change.
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Arashi89 said:
Uzumaki Karin?! Really Kishimoto?! Now what, Jiraya was actually from Uzumaki too?! And what about Rock Lee, he has a ton of stamina, he must be an Uzumaki too!! Maybe even Nagato is part of the Uzumaki clan, who knows! Even Gaara, since he has red hair!! Or Tayuya! And Sakura has pink hair, maybe he's a descendant of the Uzumaki clan but her mother/father married a person with white hair!! Also, the Fourth Mizukage has red hair too!!! EVERYONE WITH RED HAIR IN THIS FUCKING WORLD IS RELATED TO THE UZUMAKI WHY IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE AAAAAAAAAARGRGSDGDFSDFSDEFWEONGWJLSGVFWOIWOLEFNWEFOW!!!

FUCK YOU KISHIMOTO AND LEARN GENETICS!!


Gaara's hair is only red in the anime, though...
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I'm not really interested in Kabuto, he looks weak and boring. That makes the whole fight with Sasuke & Itachi rather boring for me.
ah, i was so distracted by how ridiculous Kabuto looked that I forgot about the Kawaii Kyoudai Combo... but seriously, Kabuto is just too lame, always has been, it's just not a good setup for a fight with the most super-cool Uchiha and Naruto's rival, I mean, those two are just two powerful and badass (much as I hate to say that bout Sasuke). A 2 to 1 fight with Kabuto, no matter how many power-ups, dragon-slayer, demon-fruit powers he has, I just can't believe that he can fight evenly against these two. A 2 page monologue of Kabuto's level-up just doesn't cut it. You better give us something good, Kishi! Don't let super-Uchiha-duo, the Kawaii Kyoudai Kombi of flaming youth be wasted on this! You better give us something good! Why don't we have all the Uchiha's fight instead? add Madara and Tobi ( Uchiha?) to the fray! let's crank up the Uchiha-fest!! I said -fest not -cest!!!!
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GINTAMA... I'LL BE WAITING FOR YOUR LEVELED-UP RETURN!!!! I'M WAITING FOR YOU... KINTAMA!!!!!?!!

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Not surprised that Karin is an Uzumaki. I had my suspicions for a while now.

Shit's about to get real!
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Well yeah, it's just like the Jewish diaspora, after the destruction of the temple in Judea in 70 A.D. they spread through the whole world and can be found in significant numbers from Cambodia to Argentina to Norway and practically all other nations. Why would the Uzumaki be different? They were an entire nation too.


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I don't see where your irritation comes from, it has no real meaning. I don't see why Karin can't be from Uzumaki clan. It's a fucking CLAN, not a family consisting of 5 members.


Except that after the destruction of the Hidden spiral village only one Uzumaki was alive: Kushina. It's impossible that she passed her powers and her traits to the entire world.

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kishimoto can make them uzumaki's too, but i don't think so about gaara. but why not the fourth mizukage?
about gentics.. it's kishimoto's world.. he can do everything he wants in it, so i don't think that you should be that disturbed by that red hair thing.. just accept it as it is. it's like the power of friendship or other things that you commonly meet in other mangas :)


Except that exists something called "making sense" and "readers are not morons and you should treat them with respect".
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Uzumaki Karin?! Really Kishimoto?! Now what, Jiraya was actually from Uzumaki too?! And what about Rock Lee, he has a ton of stamina, he must be an Uzumaki too!! Maybe even Nagato is part of the Uzumaki clan, who knows! Even Gaara, since he has red hair!! Or Tayuya! And Sakura has pink hair, maybe he's a descendant of the Uzumaki clan but her mother/father married a person with white hair!! Also, the Fourth Mizukage has red hair too!!! EVERYONE WITH RED HAIR IN THIS FUCKING WORLD IS RELATED TO THE UZUMAKI WHY IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE AAAAAAAAAARGRGSDGDFSDFSDEFWEONGWJLSGVFWOIWOLEFNWEFOW!!!

FUCK YOU KISHIMOTO AND LEARN GENETICS!!


LMAO

Well on topic to the chapter haha surprised to know Karin is an Uzumaki ;o So she's the last one I take it since Nagato is dead now ;o Wonder if we'll get to see a few more I wouldn't mind to be honest, we know about like 5 Uzumakis now if I include Naruto.

And Kabuto is a Sage lol...I had to laugh at that even though it's pretty good xD So he's a Dragon Sage huh, although I don't see how you can go from Snake to Dragon ;o
Interesting, so he also use the abilities of Juugo, Suigetsu and Karin and can use them, this fight should be good. I don't see why Itachi was so shocked...but it's going to be a hell of a lot harder to capture him alive now, Kabutos even more of a Freak now lol xD

On point to the Sage mode...guessing Tsunade will have one as well with the Slugs.

Still I liked the chapter, but I rather see Naruto battle or the 5 Kages. I was looking forward to this fight but I don't know why, but I'm not that interested in it much anymore ;o
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hes a sage but he still needs his glasses.....you would think he would fix it?

hmm just how many sages are there anyways.
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Well, sweet Kurama on cover <3 And I guess new movie this summer? "Road To Ninja" sounds interesting actually :3
So what, Karin is Naruto's cusin coz she has red hair?! XD I LOLD! Seriously, then why Naruto has got yellow hair? Soon it'll be appear that he isn't Uzumaki because of that, jeez.
Also that - Kabuto is A DRAGON WTF XD Really, Kishimoto, what have you been smoking lately? Change your dealer!
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I'm really liking the new Kabuto as a baddie. Something about glasses makes an evil character seem more evil (I'm looking at you Gendo) so I'm glad Kishimoto is giving him more powers to stick around for a bit. Well, if Sasuke and Itachi win then Tobi's plan falls flat on its arse as all the impure resurrection jutsus will undo. Assuming they dont just kill him and mess everything up!

The revelation of Nagato and Karin being of the Uzumaki clan was a little surprising but a decent enough plot drop. Well, a lot of things in long running shonen you just have to shrug and move on or you'll end up butthurt like Arashi89 above me. I think he's confused in that all Uzumaki have red hair, not that all red-hairs are Uzumaki. I know their village was destroyed but I dont remember anything about there being only one survivor.

Ah well, enjoyed this chapter. Decent read!
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Except that after the destruction of the Hidden spiral village only one Uzumaki was alive: Kushina. It's impossible that she passed her powers and her traits to the entire world.
I think somebody has already mentioned it but Kushina herself said that the survivors of the Uzumaki clan had scattered all around the world so she wasn't the only one who remained. You can confirm it in chapter 500.

Anyway, I found the idea of Karin being an Uzumaki rather great. Explains a lot of things.
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I find it quite laughable that they still call themselves "ninjas"...
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I read the chapter, but I didn't see a dragon anywhere! I did however see a Freakish SnakeAssTail-Lizard-Humanoid-Hybrid-With-Bones-Comming-Out-Of-Its-Head creature. Dr.Snakes? LOL, Seems like some kid has a snake fetish (finally a valid reason as to why he couldn't give a crap about females)
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Dragon!
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I have always found the snakes to be the most interesting of the summons, so I would have loved to see Kabuto's training - perhaps the anime could atually pull a decent filler surrounding it?
The snake with the ciggie looked quite trendy. ;)

Nothing's going to happe to Sasuke, but it would be karma to see him bought down by the traits of his disgarded team. :P

Kabuto is now one of my fav' characters in the series.
It's nice to see an established character who isn't a stroppy teen who has doors open for him - pity he won't stick around too long.

Best chapter in ages.

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And who wouldve guessed Karin was part of the Uzumaki clan

Me, a while ago.;)
Red hair, no family, orphan from an abandoned village, deus ex machina healing ability.
I assumed Nagato was one when hearing 'Rain village' simply because Kushina is from a disbanded water village and once Tobi mentioned 'Uzumaki red hair' - I remembered Karin.

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"Ima dragon now bitch, I own you" - Kabuto.
Sasugay (to himself) "I'd rather you were a snake Kabuto, that way I would stick you in my butt.

Kishimoto is THIS close into turning Naruto into a second Bleach (which I dropped and many ended up hating).
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WHAT ON EARTH HAPPENED??
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I should've known. Red hair immediately means that you're from the Uzumaki clan. Should've known that. Kabuto and Karin. We learned some very important things from these two.

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