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Kotori said: Score: 9->1 This ep. kills the show for me. Rolo deserves a horrible death, and the story writer a new job. qould you rather have the show be predictable and boring? at least they are taking risks and killing uselses characters, they should have started doing that earlier. |
| That is one very powerful ally Lu has now, although I still can't stand Jeremiah. I wasn't expecting Shirley to die. I wonder what was going on when Lu was telling Shirley not to die...Maybe he can re-geass once it is cancelled but it was impossible for Shirley to comply... |
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| No...Shirley...noooo |
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| who shot shirley, i wonder ?__? I guess it wont be Rolo... they didnt show what exactly happened there <.< |
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Fai said: Richard_Omega said: why do they draw lulu in a shoujo style?, i am starting to hate that... too yaoi oriented (yuck) shirley has wings, she's lulu's angel? that lulu MIGHT have a closer relationship with C.C than he thinks? jeremi..... oranji seems to have finally revealed who he really was, and he seems to have sided with lulu for now, but i still have some suspicion on him..now, only possible lulu x Kallen Its not "shoujo style" its how most of CLAMP artwork is, its their style, as well as all character designs in show. They spend a lot of time on developing a certain symbolism or expressions too. yep, shirley has wings BECAUSE she is died, mr obvious ^^" It was quite clear ever since V.V called Charles as "niisan", about 4 or 5 episodes before :) Episode 4.33(Picture Drama 5) pretty much sets in stone that he would never betray Marianne's lineage. And that picture drama came out during the first season. yes. :) well, you're right... but i can't help but associate that drawing style with some shoujo drawing style (cough vampire knight cough) i like stating the obvious, its better than nothing :D we didn't know if charles called V.V nii-san because they were actually brothers, or because they have a really close relationship as for the picture drama, i have only read about it, i have not actually watched it *goes to watch it* |
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| Didn't really seem like Lulu's geass had any effect whatsoever on Shirley... I'm not so sure if he can use it again on people. Don't know why people think Rolo didn't kill Shirley, there was no particular reason to show him actually killing her. The suggestion that Suzaku killed her is quite stupid... he didn't even kill Lulu even though he was responsible for Euphie's death, and he told some people in this very episode to guard Shirley. The only somewhat interesting theory about this that was posted here was Rolo talking Shirley into killing herself for the sake of Lulu. Not very likely though, especially since it doesn't make sense then for Rolo to use his geass. It's known that Rolo flips if Nunally is mentioned, he is quite unstable... This makes me wonder though (although not really related to this episode), why the hell did Rolo help Lulu with the phonecall to Nunally that Suzaku arranged? Would seem like a perfect opportunity for him to cause friction between Lulu and Nunally. It also never made sense to me that everyone's memory was altered, but not Nunally's. Is there any reason why the emperor didn't do this? And also, why didn't Orange kill Rolo when he had the chance in this episode? It didn't seem like he was having any problems with killing people on Lulu's side. (Btw, did it make sense that Orange managed to cancel Rolo's geass after he was affected? Only thing that would make sense is that his geass canceller is triggered automatically like every 5 seconds, cause he couldn't have done it by choice.) |
| NO SHIRLEY :'( Lelouch is going to avenge her death ... |
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| what a sad episode poor shirley rolo should die!(i toght he got a brain and then he killed her-_-). |
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| several points: - Thank goodness FLOW's OP isn't gay like Colors <_< - Shirley might as well just lose consciousness due to bleeding, and not dead yet. - If Nina has to die, then let her die by radiation poisioning - And if anybody else has to die, I vote Tamaki, the useless bastard. - and ALI Project sets the theme back to the militaristic, "marching" end. |
Goku said: who shot shirley, i wonder ?__? I guess it wont be Rolo... they didnt show what exactly happened there <.< So I assume that when you spot me with a knife in my hand and a stabbed body on the floor you won't suspect me? Cool. |
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| Death to Rolo!! Burn him up and feed him to the crows!!! I can't believe he did that do Shirley!! |
| Nice ep this time, kinda sad they killed off shirley, but seems like there's gonna be alot of payback next ep :) Wonder how this will turn out, since something as obvious as shirleys killer could turn into a twist in code geass. Also doubting jeremiah's loyalty tbh, nobody knows the full effects of that mask he wears yet? |
Death-Summoner said: Death to Rolo!! Burn him up and feed him to the crows!!! I can't believe he did that do Shirley!! +1 Poor Shirley... Y_Y Another episode of awesomeness. Really liked the new ending (Ali project <3),especially CLAMP's beautiful illustrations yet again :) |
| arggg I need episode 14!@!!! |
| Awesome episode. Many plottwist and sad events. Rollo flips, Shirley dies, Orange-kun joins Zero's cause... Yay for the unexpected ^_^ |
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| OmG this was one of the most exciting episode of CG for a long time! When Shirley died I was seriously in tears!! Why the sadness??? Anyways I'm glad that Orange turned good b/c I always liked him :D |
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| I like the new set-up or w/e. The way everything's turned out in this episode and such. Except Rolo, but he doesn't seem like a big problem. It might be later, though. (I didn't really like Shirley, from the very beginning. She's such a steryotypical girl character, and I never liked those. I'm more for Kallen or C.C.) |
Bax1er said: Didn't really seem like Lulu's geass had any effect whatsoever on Shirley... I'm not so sure if he can use it again on people. It's more like, she just couldn't not die, it was just impossible for her body. |
astronomical said: Bax1er said: Didn't really seem like Lulu's geass had any effect whatsoever on Shirley... I'm not so sure if he can use it again on people. It's more like, she just couldn't not die, it was just impossible for her body. Well, yeah, she couldn't not die indeed. But she accepted she was gonna die way before she died, and his geass could have made her stop accepting that, which it should have, but it didn't. |
Bax1er said: astronomical said: Bax1er said: Didn't really seem like Lulu's geass had any effect whatsoever on Shirley... I'm not so sure if he can use it again on people. It's more like, she just couldn't not die, it was just impossible for her body. Well, yeah, she couldn't not die indeed. But she accepted she was gonna die way before she died, and his geass could have made her stop accepting that, which it should have, but it didn't. not really, remember how the geass from eufie died when she was about to die. same thing happened with shirley. the difference is that the geass casted upon euphie was that of killing the japanese. the geass seems to control the minds of people, not the bodies, so if the body is damaged enough as to not being able to do what the mind tells it to do, then i doubt the geass would work. |
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| Sigh...It was a good ep none the less, but why did they have to kill Shirley... |
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Richard_Omega said: Bax1er said: astronomical said: Bax1er said: Didn't really seem like Lulu's geass had any effect whatsoever on Shirley... I'm not so sure if he can use it again on people. It's more like, she just couldn't not die, it was just impossible for her body. Well, yeah, she couldn't not die indeed. But she accepted she was gonna die way before she died, and his geass could have made her stop accepting that, which it should have, but it didn't. not really, remember how the geass from eufie died when she was about to die. same thing happened with shirley. the difference is that the geass casted upon euphie was that of killing the japanese. the geass seems to control the minds of people, not the bodies, so if the body is damaged enough as to not being able to do what the mind tells it to do, then i doubt the geass would work. Well, to be honest, the series did make it seem like he can use his geass again, so I'm sure he can. After all, her eyes turned red and we got to see that geass animation thingy. I was just trying to say that the series wasn't very consistent, since there was no reaction from her at all to her being to to live. It probably was to not ruin the setting, as they planned on lettting her die anyway... it's just somewhat inconsistent, and you explanation that people who are almost dying aren't affected by geass as much seems kinda random. Euphie was trying not to think about certain things to avoid the effects, and she had to work pretty hard for that. No such thing for Shirley. |
M_A said: Kotori said: Score: 9->1 This ep. kills the show for me. Rolo deserves a horrible death, and the story writer a new job. qould you rather have the show be predictable and boring? at least they are taking risks and killing uselses characters, they should have started doing that earlier. Useless characters would be Rolo, other students, Lloyd etc... Shirley was a very important character and close to Lulu. |
| Shirley had DOOM written all over her ever since Lulu said that she should be safe with Suzaku. Just gives me a new reason to hate Roro, I suppose. Also I wonder how Suzaku will react to Shirley's death. And... call me stupid... VV isn't a girl? o.O |
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Bax1er said: Richard_Omega said: Bax1er said: astronomical said: Bax1er said: Didn't really seem like Lulu's geass had any effect whatsoever on Shirley... I'm not so sure if he can use it again on people. It's more like, she just couldn't not die, it was just impossible for her body. Well, yeah, she couldn't not die indeed. But she accepted she was gonna die way before she died, and his geass could have made her stop accepting that, which it should have, but it didn't. not really, remember how the geass from eufie died when she was about to die. same thing happened with shirley. the difference is that the geass casted upon euphie was that of killing the japanese. the geass seems to control the minds of people, not the bodies, so if the body is damaged enough as to not being able to do what the mind tells it to do, then i doubt the geass would work. Well, to be honest, the series did make it seem like he can use his geass again, so I'm sure he can. After all, her eyes turned red and we got to see that geass animation thingy. I was just trying to say that the series wasn't very consistent, since there was no reaction from her at all to her being to to live. It probably was to not ruin the setting, as they planned on lettting her die anyway... it's just somewhat inconsistent, and you explanation that people who are almost dying aren't affected by geass as much seems kinda random. Euphie was trying not to think about certain things to avoid the effects, and she had to work pretty hard for that. No such thing for Shirley. well, the point was. shirley did get geassed, but there was nothing her body could do. even if she wanted to live, she couldn't do anything. instead of trying to do something impossible, she just told lulu her last words, knowing she was going to die. and about euphie. you are right, she overcame the geass by herself, i dont know what i was thinking when i added her into this >.< |
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Richard_Omega said: Bax1er said: Richard_Omega said: Bax1er said: astronomical said: Bax1er said: Didn't really seem like Lulu's geass had any effect whatsoever on Shirley... I'm not so sure if he can use it again on people. It's more like, she just couldn't not die, it was just impossible for her body. Well, yeah, she couldn't not die indeed. But she accepted she was gonna die way before she died, and his geass could have made her stop accepting that, which it should have, but it didn't. not really, remember how the geass from eufie died when she was about to die. same thing happened with shirley. the difference is that the geass casted upon euphie was that of killing the japanese. the geass seems to control the minds of people, not the bodies, so if the body is damaged enough as to not being able to do what the mind tells it to do, then i doubt the geass would work. Well, to be honest, the series did make it seem like he can use his geass again, so I'm sure he can. After all, her eyes turned red and we got to see that geass animation thingy. I was just trying to say that the series wasn't very consistent, since there was no reaction from her at all to her being to to live. It probably was to not ruin the setting, as they planned on lettting her die anyway... it's just somewhat inconsistent, and you explanation that people who are almost dying aren't affected by geass as much seems kinda random. Euphie was trying not to think about certain things to avoid the effects, and she had to work pretty hard for that. No such thing for Shirley. well, the point was. shirley did get geassed, but there was nothing her body could do. even if she wanted to live, she couldn't do anything. instead of trying to do something impossible, she just told lulu her last words, knowing she was going to die. and about euphie. you are right, she overcame the geass by herself, i dont know what i was thinking when i added her into this >.< OK, OK, we get it, bottom line is Lelouch can Re-Geass after Orenji's Geass Cancel and sometime Geass is rendered ineffective depending on the physical condition of the person being Geassed... Is this something we children can finally agree on? |
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| omg rollo must die, suzaku must die lelouch is stupid to believe orange okay episode, not fond of having shirley shot .. |
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| Shirley! I was actually rooting for her. I liked how 'normal' she was. What's wrong with normal girls? Sure the kickass ones are awesome, but they usually don't do too well relationship-wise. I'll admit that I had tears in my eyes at the end of this episode, even if that sort of death isn't new. Saying you'll want to reincarnate and fall in love again, that is. I think that's what I liked about Shirley. She liked Lelouch for being Lelouch, and she ended up accepting him as Zero, the man who killed her father, because she understood that he was doing it to protect the things he cared for. I'll ask you Shirley-haters, what's so bad about her? |
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| WOW! That ep was rly SOMETHING! But why Shirley?! Fu... bastards from Sunrise... :/ Huhu, Orange-kun with Lulu = power of Geass and Geass Canceller? Didn't expect that Jeremiah loved Lulu's mother. (yep, IMO that was something more then he said) New op is worse then O2, but still good. ED <3 and animation... C.C. as Angel? Why not. But wait... where the hell is she?! I wanna more C.C. :( Hmm... why Suzaku is so stupid? Why MAL havent got something like the worst char ever? Hmm... that will be interesting when Lulu'll find out that Rolo killed (hope not... :( ) Shirley. I wanna see Lulu in Berserk-Mode ^^ End of post. ^^ |
Stomachbutterfly said: Obviously from his reaction, I doubt he's just going to hop on over and be with someone else, that would be ridiculous to expect of him. In common sense, yeah. But this anime has already proved they have apes by story writers which lead to totally retarded events that noone would ever believe. |
| this reminds me of euphie's death but in a more dramatic way....... i think the developer wanted to get rid of Rolo, since now lulu got orange on his side..maybe rolo becomes useless? thats the only way that explains y the developers made rolo the bad guy |
| I yelled she would die the second she broke away from security with that gun, when I was watching with my friends. I mean it was obvious at that point but damn I didn't think or want it to really happen. She was my favorite character from the first, and I barely got any of her in the second. Kinda eh over how her forgiveness for Lelouch was fast and simple. Pic via Melonpan - http://www.meidocafe.jp/2008/07/06/code-geass-r2-13/ |
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| Why couldnt it have been nina ?!?! :( Just when i started taking a liking to her. |
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ilovesai said: Why couldnt it have been nina ?!?! :( Just when i started taking a liking to her. maybe this can help. http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/4786/Give+Nina+a+Knuckle+Sandwich.html But yeah, I'm sad. |
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| OMG such a sad eps T_T Shirley .... OMG she should have not died, it was all because she accidently mention Nun's name and Rolo was too senstive of losing his "brother" and killed her D: omggggggg NOOOO SHIRLEY + LULU <3 Love the new OP! dont really like the new ED :S |
| I don't want to ruin everyone's Shirley mourning, but I felt that it was rather contrived. Sunrise stuffed a lot of development for her into one episode and killed her off the next. Of course, that still works as a large turning point. Now we just have to hope that when Lelouch learns that it was Rolo that it doesn't go in the same direction the first season went in. ;_; |
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| I fear we will have a season 3 if not the series speed up a bit. D: |
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| Shirley T_T. anderkent said: Excuse me? Lelouch is obviously the bad guy in here. Maybey not from character, but from actions for sure. How many people do you think he has killed? And for what? Vengence, ambition? Did you think about what you are trying to glorificate. I respect Suzaku way more then Lelouch. Suzaku took the right way, which happenes to be much harder then terrorism. Everyone can go and kill people nowadays, saying hes doing it for a greater good. And if you say its nothing wrong, well, then theres something definitely wrong with you. It's a matter of opinion really. Killing is evil, no doubt about that. But his goal is pure. It all comes down to whether you think the ends justify the means. Personally I want Lulu to win here. He seems to be the lesser of two evils in the show between him and his father >_>. |
anderkent said: Excuse me? Lelouch is obviously the bad guy in here. Maybey not from character, but from actions for sure. How many people do you think he has killed? And for what? Vengence, ambition? Did you think about what you are trying to glorificate. I respect Suzaku way more then Lelouch. Suzaku took the right way, which happenes to be much harder then terrorism. Everyone can go and kill people nowadays, saying hes doing it for a greater good. And if you say its nothing wrong, well, then theres something definitely wrong with you. SO when "good guys" kill people its all good, because they have good ideals? never mind that the reasons re the same. Lelouch is NOT a bad guy, as I said he is a "batman", an antihero (how many times did batman has thrown the badguys up into the barrels of acid, locked up in pretty torturious jails and etc, so will he die in the end too?). Yes vengeance is there too. But the main reason is the different world. All the deaths he wanted to commit are perfectly justified and he feels the guilt for the ones he did not want to commit, but his goals are pure and will - strong enough for them to stay the same. As the show has shown - he is not even doing it for his sister now. he is doing it for all the people he know, for Kallen, for Student Council, for everyone there Ghandi and Pope are pretty much only persons who believe that the peace can reach something. They are also pretty much the only humans to be ABLE to do it That said, only Garibaldi and Napoleon conquered cities without even one kill - when there's a totalitarian fascist empire on your nose, you do not try to snuggle up with them, you try to retain who you are. Hence why V succeeded in his objective of overthrowing Britain dictatorship( V for Vendetta). Suzaku on other hand is doing EXACTLY the same as Lelouch. The only difference is that the one acknowledges that it is bad, but nevertheless goes on(Lelouch) to reach his goal and the other believes he is doing it for greater good of his own countrymen(Suzaku), even though he is such a killer, that he earned the title of "White Shinigami". And for what? To become a dictator to his own people, to force his own morals and ideas upon his native country? |
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