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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Well that was fun. or should I say freaking depressive. OK how about this: Not talking about Ui at all this episode. I was thinking of showing up good stuff of her but alas, nope can't take it when I see the below part.  This is unacceptable. Ui did the less efforts and the less things to get Kazuma. The only sorry stuff I have for her is her gloom of her brother complex situation. This is not acceptable to me. I cannot accept this episode and therefore like many will accept the VN ending for Madoka or Ibuki whom I put up with the kiss as best as I could get from the VN source. I cry with all for Ibuki and Madoka. They should not have chosen Ui as the main lead to get Kazuma. My points follow for how lame and how much effort it took to unit Ui with Kazuma.
Now instead let's talk of Madoka/Ibuki. About Ibuki, one thing does strike about her is that she recovered rather quickly here from the devastation of last episode. Talk about strong girl there. I like the way she reacted in the spoiler About Madoka, she was totally gorgeous in the following,  nice dress and nice culture display. I loved seeing Madoka and her mother in the spoiler About the end, the end was hilarious! the view of everyone being around drunk was nice start of that segment to show the celebration. Sakai's father being drunk is funny to watch and Senka was quite a tease towards him. I am highly assuming the little kid scene just foreshadows the possible Kazuma x Ui family. Daigo's mother drunk in the spoiler Ayumu the MILF King so says the spoiler below Yes indeed all the mothers were over him and damn kid gets a feel of Madoka's mother breasts. I am sure in a straight Shota manga he could make Madoka's mother much more satisfied than the old man. In general the whole series was good. Much more better Akane-iro ni Somaru Saka. Disappointing was the last episode or Madoka one. It should have been one of those girls at least. Maybe I will put more later on but no Ui stuff. No, no. |
Yumekichi11Jun 27, 2011 11:10 AM
| decent episode. nice of tsumugi to let ui go instead of her. series was decent. could have been better! 6.5/10 |
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Oosran originally said: ^Baseless assumptions, as I fell asleep half-way through the episode.This would probably be the second to worst ending there could've been. Worst obviously being the shota otouto. Overall, the only remotely enjoyable episodes would've been episodes centred around Madoka or even Ibuki. I have no idea why I didn't hate Ibuki. Overall, terribly lacking, and a terrible ending, but it could've been worse, I guess. Final verdict: 4/10. Now that I finally watched the second half, I realized it was even worse than I first assumed it to be. Like, real damn bad. New final verdict: 3/10. |
OosranJun 27, 2011 8:17 AM
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| The anime had it's moments but to me, it could have been a lot better. |
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| i read the summaries for the last 2 eps because this show got stupid really fast |
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| Worst ending -___-;; Ui ending and all characters except Ui seemed out of character this episode... |
| Meh, this show was nothing special. But it was still OK. 6.5/10 |
| I really couldn't be bothered to come up with a clever signature at this time. So right now I will go ahead and say nay and move on with my business |
| Well, it was okay but Ui didn't really step it up this episode like I was thinking she would so that it would seem justified for her to have the good ending. Ibuki and Madoka had better showings imo. |
| Could have been better, 7/10 Nothing really stood out to me this season @.@ |
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| Ayumu is the king. Look at that playa. Getting the MILF's of the party. Everything was expected. Of course he was going to get Ui, but the way he got her was unexpected. |
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| Shit.....plain and simple..... I think we ALL know why this was shit....no need to even discuss this piece of shit.... 5.5/10 |
| I agree with everything OP said about ... well, everything. I was okay with Madoka being rejected but Ibuki was my favorite of the group. I heavily dislike the way the anime attempted to feature each heroine in one episode and then failed to build up off that. I mean, do you honestly spend so much effort on one girl (Hinata) and then have absolutely nothing build off from that? Hinata as a heroine never displayed any sort of devotion towards Kazuma - it was pretty much like she was never a heroine to begin with. Rant part 2: As the OP mentioned, the eventual heroine doesn't deserve to be chosen considering her lack of enthusiasm and ample hesitation. The only reason I had given this series an 8 leading up to episode 9 was because it 1) started off quite well with the humorous jokes and interesting references, 2) had nice art and so was eye catching 3) had no definite heroine yet, 4) did not feature the horrible episode 11. Ultimately I feel this series deserves a 7 for being generic, predictable since episode 1 and plainly illogical. It was, however, entertaining. |
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| Hi guys, new forumgoer here! Actually the reason why I joined this forum is because I wanted to vent my frustration on this anime...I'm usually an ardent defender of the 'childhood friend', so the first episode of this anime really captured my attention with that memorable scene with Madoka. But after a couple of episodes I kinda guessed where this was heading...and reading what happened, I'm glad I stopped. Madoka did NOT deserve to get rejected (I mean, cmon! She gets friendblocked and forgotten about after waiting almost TEN YEARS?!) and my impressions of Ui are not favorable either... Thanks for hearing me out and I hope to have many more interesting discussions with the others on the forum here in the near future :) |
| 'I met many people. We were separated. And then reunited. This tune contains all those feelings.' - Nanaka Yatsushiro, Myself;Yourself, Episode 13  |
| In my head, this is what actually happened... |
BakaScarletJun 27, 2011 6:20 PM
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| Needed more Shota moments I personally predicted a mile away that Tsumugi was gonna feign sickness and make Ui take the spot. Not really a Ui fan so this ending is bad *insert rage face here* |
| If your going to complain that Yu-Gi-Oh! Mangas are on the top NY times manga best sellers, you must not realize how popular Card games are(as well as the fact that you get a free card). |
| o WOW if you hate the ending so much then go play the VN. You KNOW they always let the main heroine win in anime adaptations... Either way it was a light series that was pretty enjoyable to watch IMO. 7/10 BTW, playing the vn right now. I swear they messed up ibuki's character design in the VN... almost as if she was the only character drawn by a different person |
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| It becomes an exceptionally difficult task to fully enjoy a foreign VN if you cannot properly read the language. Sure you can use translation tools, but it will never give you results that make 100% sense. Having said that, I will probably end up biting the bullet and trying it out after I finish a few other VNs. |
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BakaScarlet said: In my head, this is what actually happened... +9000. Roll credits. I'll always imagine this to be the ending for this show. I planned to give this show an 8-8.5/10 if it had ended with Ibuki, but the stale Ui ending made me give it a 6/10. My ending: Is my ending cliche?...maybe...I would have liked it that way though. Instead it ended like it did and I am deeply disappointed for an entertaining show that had it's moment, but was unwilling to change it's obvious ending to the one that many fans of the show preferred. I liked that Madoka and Sakai became more confident and developed more throughout the series than Ui. Also, where the f*** was Koyori? she was my second female lead besides Ibuki. Koyori and Ibuki got the fewest amount of screen time in the last episode. Maybe it was because their characters being deeply involved in the last episode may have hindered the ending the creators were going for, but who knows. I did however enjoyed Kasane in this episode and found here extremely adorable. Hope the OVA has a different ending although it'll probably just be another ecchi filled episode with the girls showing their bare breasts. |
BakaScarlet said: It becomes an exceptionally difficult task to fully enjoy a foreign VN if you cannot properly read the language. Sure you can use translation tools, but it will never give you results that make 100% sense. Having said that, I will probably end up biting the bullet and trying it out after I finish a few other VNs. Opportunity to learn kanji! |
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| Horrible and utter conplete shit. So much For Hoshi. My Score First part: 9/10 Ep 10: 8/10 Ep 11: 7/10 Ep 12 adn Final Score overral. 6/10 |
| Weak. The whole story was predictable. The confession sucked and the way Ui and Kazuma acted in this episode pissed me off. I knew they were gonna end up together but the story needed more surprise it was so easy for them to get together all they had to do was confess. Even the confession sucked doing it infront of everybody it should of needed to be more heart felt. Weak |
ItsSoPringles said: Scul said: Horrible and utter conplete shit. So much For Hoshi. My Score First part: 9/10 Ep 10: 8/10 Ep 11: 7/10 Ep 12 adn Final Score overral. 6/10 "the show is absolute shit thats why im giving it a decent score" -_- I was talking about the episode. Not the Series in General. Notice that I gave a 9/10 until Ep.10. I just gave it a point lower for every Episode when it went down generic harem Anime route and became very very very dissapointing |
| After the Ui ending i threw my laptop out the window. A girl that has a brother complex where the brother is not the main character? DO NOT WANT ~ 3/10 |
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| lol they really have to push through this ending no matter what huh? I was happy that well, Tsumugi is playing at least the Megami but they just really have to pair those two. Oh well, after thinking through it, no complaints they deserve each other. Actually glad Ibuki and Madoka didn't get paired to that idiot. Yumekichi11 said: This is unacceptable. Ui did the less efforts and the less things to get Kazuma. Indeed. Shit ending. The first few episodes were alright but when the pairing comes in, in went complete garbage. 5/10 |
| sht ending wasn't as bad as I was expecting it to be. |
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| I loved it Ui voice sounded so cute when she screamed her confession back. |
| I knew I had a feeling that Tsumugi was faking a stomach ache just so she can get Ui and Kazuma together. |
| I like Madoka more but I'm fine with the turnout. The 'proposal' kept me grinning the whole time (other than the part where the two were screaming at each other). Overall the show is meh considering the blend of material at the start. It only really had a direction until Sakai's episode. |
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| Well, its kinda obvious that Kazuma will pair up with Ui. I got the ending that i wanted BUT it needs more character development for Ui before pairing them up. I was hoping that this series would focus more about Ui if they are going for a Kazuma x Ui ending. Here's what i think about the series: The first episode - "Ooooo they "accidentally" had their "first kiss". GJ Kazuma!!. I can't wait to for next eps. A couple of episodes later - "I'm still hoping to see more Kazuma x Ui moments. Near the end - "Madoka and Ibuki had their moments. It's a very touching story indeed. Man, why did he reject both of them.WHYYY!!!!!???" Last episode - "[monotonous voice]yea, Kazuma and Ui are offically lovers...[/monotonous voice]..............eh? Wait what how!!? O.o??" The characters that stood out the most in the series would be Madoka, Ibuki, and possibly Hina. Where the hell is Ui in terms of development??? (probably busy eating a ridiculous amount of parfait at Bagpipe. LOL.......*awkward silence*) Also, when did Kazuma became awkward to Ui??What triggered him to act like that? He wasn't like that before or was he? Why at the very last episode did he act so weird to her? I dont know -_-. IMO, i like this series cuz first is a harem and second is Kazuma x Ui. But the plot somehow jumps all over the place resulting an unsatisfying ending. I agree with Yumekichi11 that there's nothing to talk about Ui. |
| "Though I fly through the valley of death..I shall fear no evil. For I am at 80,000 feet and climbing." - At the entrance to the old SR-71 operating base Kadena, Okinawa |
| This was a predictable but decent ending....seems like there is so much hate for Ui on these forums though. Guess that happens in a harem/romance anime though. Looks like Ayumu is gonna grow up to become a pimp though! |
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AzureRevolver said: That's exactly the problem with Ui VS Ibuki/Madoka. There was far more development and it makes no sense into putting a character like Ui to fall in love suddenly with Kazuma. There was no build to this at all nothing for us to go "AWWWWWWW" to. Tomoya and Nagisa, Ryuji and Taiga, Misaki and Usui and many more had a developed relationship which led us to accept the pairing when it finally happened. The pairing with Ui had no significant development ... if anything Madoka had the most build up with Kazuma slowly remembering bits and pieces of his memory with her in the past and how Madoka was always thinking about him whereas Ui was thinking about food the entire series (and her brother). If anything the staff fucked the pace and end of this anime big time! |
| Alas, it is finally finished! A nice ending to the show if I do say so myself. I couldn't have done it better. I'm thankful Ui and Kazumu ended up together in the end instead of having a harem (especially since I'm all for Ui). How elaborate was that plan? Kazumu should be grateful for the friends he's got haha. Hooray for the kiss at the end (even though we don't really see it). Only thing I have problems with is the lack of other character development like many have said. But again, I'm biased towards having an Ui ending so I don't really mind at all. It would have been nice to have a deeper character growth from Ui, but oh well. Well in the end, I had my share of fun with this show. |
RezurrektJun 27, 2011 11:35 PM
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| the problem with the anime like with most that are makes of VN is that it failed to grasp any feeling at all with its main heroine Ui wasnt bad*swallows vomit* its just she never really tried for it till the last episode I personally would have prefered Ibuki but like most animes it never goes how i want it Truthfully coming into this last episode I had it at a 6/10 because of the obvious ending anyone could have predicted from episode 1 but after the confession and Ui's brother complex settling down i give it a 7.5/10 mainly cuz it was entertaining |
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| I don't really mind that Ui became Kazuma's lover. But why do all Feng adaptations have to end like this, in which the girl with least development among the ones competing over the protagonists wins? Oh and Tsumugi faking that stomach ache was just too plain obvious. |
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AzureRevolver said: There was no build to this at all nothing for us to go "AWWWWWWW" to. Tomoya and Nagisa, Ryuji and Taiga, Misaki and Usui and many more had a developed relationship which led us to accept the pairing when it finally happened. The pairing with Ui had no significant development ... if anything Madoka had the most build up with Kazuma slowly remembering bits and pieces of his memory with her in the past and how Madoka was always thinking about him whereas Ui was thinking about food the entire series (and her brother). I could go on ... along with Madoka we saw development with Hinata and Ibuki however they apparently don't hold a candle to Ui T_T I had high hopes for this series only for it to end horribly. This person's opinion coincides with my opinion nicely. From an unbiased point of view, the episode wasn't all that great, not because Kazuma didn't end up with a particular girl, or because he ended up with Ui. It just lacked in so many ways. There was no emotional build-up at all, and the whole feigning sickness and confession scene felt too forced. If this anime was 24 episodes it might've been able to save itself from such a bad ending by extending the arcs and giving Ui her needed development episode(s). Most of the hate for this ending is coming from "Kazuma didn't end up with ______ so it sucks." All in all, it was a solid series up until episode 10 because after that it attempted to cram all the story arcs into 3 episodes. While episodes 10 and 11 were pretty good, the quality of the episode plummeted with the ending in episode 12. Endings really define a series, and this series probably won't have that lasting effect on people. (I know I didn't, I should've watched TWGOKII second and Hoshizora first... damnit, best for last!!!!) |
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| Very happy with the ending. Ui was my favorite of the girls, so of course I would be, LMAO! leefan said: o WOW if you hate the ending so much then go play the VN. You KNOW they always let the main heroine win in anime adaptations... Either way it was a light series that was pretty enjoyable to watch IMO. 7/10 Exactly. Sucks for anyone who was expecting it to be "different". Sounds like a lot of you were looking in the wrong place if they were looking for something that wasn't "predictable". This anime never gave off the illusion that it was going to be thought-provoking, tons of character development, etc. etc. etc. The draw in was about a guy who trips, falls, and accidentally kisses a girl on the lips, LOL! I don't even... XD Strictly speaking about the anime (and anime in general?) I just THANK GOD it wasn't another "open ending" harem anime (even though only 3 of the 7 girls had a thing for him). Too many within the last year or so. |
LadyOrihimeJun 28, 2011 1:07 AM
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LadyOrihime said: Very happy with the ending. Ui was my favorite of the girls, so of course I would be, LMAO! leefan said: o WOW if you hate the ending so much then go play the VN. You KNOW they always let the main heroine win in anime adaptations... Either way it was a light series that was pretty enjoyable to watch IMO. 7/10 Exactly. Sucks for anyone who was expecting it to be "different". Sounds like a lot of you were looking in the wrong place if they were looking for something that wasn't "predictable". This anime never gave off the illusion that it was going to be thought-provoking, tons of character development, etc. etc. etc. The draw in was about a guy who trips, falls, and accidentally kisses a girl on the lips, LOL! I don't even... XD Strictly speaking about the anime (and anime in general?) I just THANK GOD it wasn't another "open ending" harem anime (even though only 3 of the 7 girls had a thing for him). Too many within the last year or so. An open ending ending is the exact ending that would have made the most since. He showed no serious feelings for anyone for 11 episodes. And even then, we never see how both of them even developed these so called feelings, unlike Hina, Ibuki, and Madoka who had legit reasons, and not the ""he reminds me of the big brother I could never get", and don't give me that last minute "he's different" bullshit. I actually expected him and hoped for him not to choose, it would have flowed with the entire vibe of the show of him just being friends with everyone. People are upset with this ending cause it was an ASSPULL. Try to tell me why they like each other...well we know why Ui "liked" him, he was her rebound. |
| Tsumugi alternative ending please? |
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| It seems to be the typical stereotype that I loathe in all of these harem anime. The protaganist ALWAYS goes for the first girl he meets whether she is thick or shy or whatever. It doesn't matter if they are a good match or not, feelings will always manifest themselves throughout the course of the series even if the characters arent together much. It's bad writing and leads to very predictable storylines...I'm sure I wasn't the only one who guessed pretty much how this whole episode would go in the first couple of minutes. I was always an Ibuki shipper as I felt they were more natural but there was no real chemistry between Kazuma and Ui at all...it just seemed silly. This is why I feel that harem anime should go the Amagami route with things. I like the idea where every character can get an arc so it silences people like myself who don't get what they want...ever lol. At least if an anime comes from a Visual Novel, the anime should be styled the same way so it keeps everyone happy. /rant Sorry if I went on a bit, I'm just fed up of generic harems!!! |
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| Great anime nice end 9/10 |
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| Ugh. It was much worse than what I expected. No tension or build-up. Kazuma just randomly liked Ui. I was murmuring "Since when??" many times everytime I see him blushed when she looks at her. =,= Overall, I find most of the parts fun to watch except Sakai's arc and this. No Tsumugi route is a big minus. I'll give this a 6. |
| I skipped all the way to the ending, instead of wasting 10 more minutes on this anime when Tsumugi faked sick. It was obvious that Ui will be w/e it is in the end and win. No point watching it, not even exciting. This anime is so.. average.. Nothing new or amazing, simply boring compared to the other anime this season. |
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