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Feb 18, 2011 6:43 PM
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It was nice to see Kyoko in one of her many transformations. It'll be awesome to see what kind of an actress she will become. So..... What's up with that one guy cuz I seriously don't remember where he came from and.... why do I feel like Kyoko is once again taking steps backwards? D=

Next chapter will be released on 3/5.
Feb 19, 2011 2:06 AM
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in the beginning of the chapter, i was like "YESSS!! FINALLY KYOKO REALIZED HER FEELINGS!!!!" and then by the end i was like "soo....are we back to where we started??"

what im confused about is, so did she lock her feelings all away AGAIN?? or did she say that she managed to lock them away again UNTIL she came to the party and meet ren???

i really hope she and ren can develop cuz now i feel like the author is just delaying them being together so she can extend the manga...=_=;;;;

also anyone know where Shou is? he disappeared a few chapters ago and now i forgot what was the last thing that happened to him was haha ^^;;;;
Feb 19, 2011 2:40 AM
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Kijima is part of the Dark Moon cast. If you wondered.
He's always been there... And Ren KNOWS what kind of girls he goes after to...THAT'S why he was looking for him during the party, when Yashiro was talking about Kyoko.

And I do think she was kind of taking steps backward as well...but, you never know... Nakamura-sensei has always been so UNPREDICTABLE from the beginning...so she's prolly gonna pull some kind of back flip and make us go "WHOA!" out of nowhere once the next chapter comes out. x'D


Feb 19, 2011 3:33 AM
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ren outspoken!!!kyoko's charm did well to him..
Feb 19, 2011 3:36 AM
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aiwanani said:
in the beginning of the chapter, i was like "YESSS!! FINALLY KYOKO REALIZED HER FEELINGS!!!!" and then by the end i was like "soo....are we back to where we started??"

what im confused about is, so did she lock her feelings all away AGAIN?? or did she say that she managed to lock them away again UNTIL she came to the party and meet ren???

i really hope she and ren can develop cuz now i feel like the author is just delaying them being together so she can extend the manga...=_=;;;;

also anyone know where Shou is? he disappeared a few chapters ago and now i forgot what was the last thing that happened to him was haha ^^;;;;


i think the last appearance was when he kissed Kyoko in front Ren. and Ren totally mad about it
Feb 19, 2011 5:58 AM
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GAH! I squeeleddd sooo much in this chapter! it was unbelievable.
Kyoko knew how she felt all along, and here she had us fooled that she was ignorant even when he kissed her cheek!
& I totally knew he was going to confess to her that time her precious necklace broke.

I have no idea whether Kyoko is saying that she hates the fact that Ren unlocked all the locks on her heart, or she hates him for doing so..
thats why shes holding on to kijima-san just to make ren feel hurt?

DON'T DO IT KYOKO.
Ren better save the day next chapter! can't wait..<3
Feb 19, 2011 6:12 AM
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AoiMemori said:

It was nice to see Kyoko in one of her many transformations. It'll be awesome to see what kind of an actress she will become. So..... What's up with that one guy cuz I seriously don't remember where he came from and.... why do I feel like Kyoko is once again taking steps backwards? D=

Next chapter will be released on 3/5.

She totally is taking a step backwards, I just hope during the party ren totally knocks her senses and finally breaks all the locks :)
Gah next chapter is so soon but not!
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aiwanani said:
in the beginning of the chapter, i was like "YESSS!! FINALLY KYOKO REALIZED HER FEELINGS!!!!" and then by the end i was like "soo....are we back to where we started??"

what im confused about is, so did she lock her feelings all away AGAIN?? or did she say that she managed to lock them away again UNTIL she came to the party and meet ren???

i really hope she and ren can develop cuz now i feel like the author is just delaying them being together so she can extend the manga...=_=;;;;

also anyone know where Shou is? he disappeared a few chapters ago and now i forgot what was the last thing that happened to him was haha ^^;;;;


i think the last appearance was when he kissed Kyoko in front Ren. and Ren totally mad about it


Can't blame kyoko.... She did realized her feelings but she is too scare to be in love again and got hurt in the end just like with Shou... I think she is trying her hardest to buried her feelings for ren and just maybe going to do something at the party to make ren detest her or push ren feelings away..
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How did Kyoko get long hair? o__________o
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Ren is going to be so jealous seeing her on that guys arm! And when it airs on TV (The question part) and Sho sees it he will be so shocked to see how Kyoko looks XDD I can't wait for the next chapter for a change XDDDD

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Extensions probably.

Feb 19, 2011 2:44 PM

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She looked very beautiful. I wanna see Sho see her too:) And Ren will be definitely jealous! I don't want her to be on guard so much around Ren.What did she mean by her existence is detestable to Ren?
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... is it just me or does it seem like Kyoko tries to hate Ren now, so that she can overcome her love for him? >_>

And by the way, I think her usual hairstyle and her everyday apperance are much more beautiful than the styled version we saw this chapter. >__> The long hair and everything... I don't know... I think it doesn't suit her. D: The "natural" style suits her more. :<
Feb 19, 2011 3:24 PM
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Kijima kissed Kyoko?!!!
I thought his last appearance was when Kyoko appeared in the set as Natsu and he started thinking she was beautiful so Ren just 'spirited' her away.. (the chapter coming before the one Ren had his near-accident in)
But a KISS?!!! *shell-shocked*
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The-Moon said:

I don't remember him kissing kyuoko, the ones that kissed her are two Ren and Shou and in this chapter it was Ren

What I connot understand here is why would she make him hate her while grabbing that guys arm
This is really confusing, I understand but at the same time I don't I feel sorry for Ren though ...
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Kijima, why are you such a skeeze?

Oh well. 1 step forward, two steps back. Hopefully it will be one carthweel forward next chapter. I love how pretty she is in this chapter, though.
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I should have realized. this development is not going anywhere, unless its ending. so time for melodrama again. poor Ren getting really hard time for kyoko. first Sho, then Rino and now Kijima.

i wonder why the hell she put her hands in someone else arm. its like a couple walk. was she on a date with him. sometime nakamura show her so shy type and sometime so advanced.

aaw. i hate those 10 text bubbles on every page about someone thinking. those are really hard to read. even after 171 chapter i'm not used to it. dang.

is it me or comedy genre is slowly vanishing from skip beat?
Feb 20, 2011 4:42 AM

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As I read this chapter, my heart goes *doki**doki* but after I saw Kyoko saying those words to Ren at the last.. My heart goes a dull thump at the bottom of my diaphragm.. hahaha! Meaning, I have a bad feeling on the next chapter... Ren just tell her how you feel! Argh! >.<
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Okay, firstly : I absolutely loved the cover of the chapter. Kyoko looked very cool and it definitely did show again the great artistic skills of Nakamura.

And I must say, I loved the chapter. It is typical Kyoko to be quite aware that there are thos dangerous-love-feeling inside of her, but hoping to have them locked away. And I think that’s her drive for the few next chapters. Fearing Rens hands, because, as she says: They are like Tsunamis to her feelings ;)
This Kijima was bound to appear again, after we saw how Ren wanted to shield Kyoko from him. And I think it’s a good think that he is there. After all, Ren will be forced to do something about courting Kyoko, when he is confronted with her being with a man that would do Kyoko no good ( a player, sort of) and who would definitely go after her. It is what Ren fears the most, I guess, besides her bond with Sho. And while Sho had Reino to notice, that Kyoko definitely is a adorable woman and actress, who will grow to be even more loveable, Kijima will be Ren’s Reino, I think. I mean, we have seen his face when she entered the room with Kijima and did not, as he expected, immediately rush to him and greet him.
And after all – Kyoko once again had one of her transformations. I don’t like her hair very much, though, but it could just be that I am not used to seeing her without a pony. What I could imagine is, that Kyoko will use this ‘Beauty’, which reminds her of Princess Rosa’s Magic, as a shield, to create a new role in which she can hide from Ren. Her face was kind of blank, when she look at him. Though I can imagine her wince in fear inside. What if Ren once states that she is beautiful? She protected herself from it and now she is really, really beautiful and stands in front of Ren in a room from which she cannot flee.
I really look forward to the next chapter, even though I kind of fear, that Ren will get hurt.

About the locks : I think they were blown away when Ren kissed her cheek. And she feared it. And now, afore the party, relocked her heart. Which will probably mean a change in her behaviour towards ren. She will try to be without emotions that are what she considers close to love, to her nightmare of how Sho hurt and used her.

And ‘bout Kyoko holding onto Kijimas arm : It’s only natural, I think. He held it out for her. He paid her outfit. He said he wanted to be her escort for the evening. It’s innocent. Why shouldn’t she do it? The one who is not allowed to touch her is Ren, Kijima doesn’t mean danger for her.
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So we've definitely made a timejump. The stunt has been done, and she also has Princess Rosa back. I think at least 4 days have past since Ch.169, During that time she's been acting as Setsu and had no problems hiding her feelings.
Ah well, I guess we'll get plenty of Cain x Setsu when the shooting of BJ starts.
But I do hope Nakamura-sensei does a track-back on what happened with Princess Rsoa.

Ofcourse Kyouko steps back. She has sworn to herself never to love again, so it would be completely out of character if she'd happily embraced the idea.
But she has already admitted he's the only one able to shake her (lol earthquake).
He broke the locks when he kissed her, she put the locks back on, but when he held her ends the locks broke again.
She hates the fact he has that power, that's what was showing on her face.
However, she also knows that she has to act naturally or it would look suspicious, especially with Yashiro there. I'm not worried Ren will easily break those locks again.

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Kijima kissed Kyoko?!!!
No, don't worry. That was a flashback to Ren kissing her, the 1st time he broke the locks.

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And ‘bout Kyoko holding onto Kijimas arm : It’s only natural, I think. He held it out for her. He paid her outfit. He said he wanted to be her escort for the evening. It’s innocent. Why shouldn’t she do it? The one who is not allowed to touch her is Ren, Kijima doesn’t mean danger for her.

Exactly.
It might even turn out that Ren asked Kijima to buy Kyouko that dress. Afterall we missed what they told Kyouko before her transformation.
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It was depressing to read most of the posts on here, tearing up the whole chapter and the last few. Thank you, Sirrah, for your post. I was like, "Wait! No one is giving Nakamura-sensei a chance!" She has always done a wonderful job, ne? There was nothing wrong with Kyouko and her holding onto Kijima's arm! I mean, jeez, you would think everyone was having a dirty affair back in the old days when it was custom to be a gentleman and lady. She was in debt to him, and it's not like Kijima is forceful and outright rude. Also, I think the way Nakamura-sensei dealt with Kyouko-chan's feelings were realistic. Would you want Kyouko to all of a sudden go "What am I being an idiot for? I love him" and just jump into his arms like some sappy princess story or bad soap opera? Kyouko-chan is tough, that's why I love her. And romance with Ren was NEVER the whole core of the story. Anyone forgotten that? But yeah I do agree with the fact that the comedy is being sucked out of the story. But then, every story has its climax. This is Skip Beat!'s.
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It might even turn out that Ren asked Kijima to buy Kyouko that dress. Afterall we missed what they told Kyouko before her transformation.


I think that's pretty much impossible. Ren didn't want him anywhere near Kyoko. I think the shocked look on Ren's face also shows that he didn't ask.

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Finally read it because the internet is not good enough to DL raw. (reading English scans)

Ren kissing her cheek made her box almost open? She's afraid of that box to be opened by the influence of meeting Ren. sigh

Nice, Kojima is helping Kyoko into a pretty woman. lol @ Kojima's reaction.
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cleo said:

It might even turn out that Ren asked Kijima to buy Kyouko that dress. Afterall we missed what they told Kyouko before her transformation.


I'm afraid it wont be something like that and Ren will get hurt a lot.
Cause why should he ask Kijima for something like that, he knows Kijima.
and definitely doesnt want to share Kyoko.

I guess we'll get a lot Kyoko running away scene in the future.♥
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I can't wait for the next chapter. I thought the look didn't suit kyoko at all...but I can't wait to see what kind of character she makes for the look and how she reacts to Ren. She may have taken a step back, but I'm sure it won't be long until the locks are broken.
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Hmm about all that back-steps talk, I don't know but I believe it's actually a good move. Think with me, in the past Kyoko would never admit her feelings, worse, she'd never have feelings -of that sort, I mean- And we see here that she's willing to admit- and fight- those feelings. Perhaps the 'fighting part' isn't the best for us fans, but it's a positive move none the less.

Perhaps making Ren jealous is for the best, we all know his dark, jealousy-induced mood and maybe in the next few chapters some proceedings that will make our little fan hearts let out a yelp of happiness will occur. I'm excited for the next chapters x3

Oh, and I miss the beagles xD Shou too, but not as much.

Yeah and sorry for my bad English, it's not my first language as you could tell ^^;
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cleo said:
The stunt has been done, and she also has Princess Rosa back.

Really? To me it sounded, as if Princess Rosa's chain is under repair and only the stone itself is safe and sound at a throne or whatever Kyoko build for her. This is the main fact, why she panict when she found out, Kijima wanted to see her twice as mature and beatifull. Because, after all, the 'mature spell' is something princess rosa casted on her while beeing Natsu. And she feared not to fulfill this task Kijima gave her. (Kyokos weird relationships to jobs, eh?)

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It was depressing to read most of the posts on here, tearing up the whole chapter and the last few. Thank you, Sirrah, for your post.


You are quite welcome. I agree with you wholeheartedly on the 'Give Nakamura some credit, guys!'-way of thinking.

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She was in debt to him, and it's not like Kijima is forceful and outright rude.
Agreed! The readers are only aware that Kijima is some kind of playboy because he is a fellow actor of Ren, after all. Kyoko wouldn't know such things. To her, he seems like a guy that paid her some beautiful magic makeup and a dress.

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Kyouko-chan is tough, that's why I love her. And romance with Ren was NEVER the whole core of the story. Anyone forgotten that?

:D We are on the same wavelength, i guess. I have to agree with you again there. I would be realy dissapointed if she just accepted her feelings. She isn't in LOVE ME for nothing. People tend to forgett that as well. (And is it just me, or is Ren some kind of undercover Love Me Member now? Okay, a bit more aprreciated by Lori and without annoying tasks and overall and stuff... but Cain seems like a way of overcoming a problem reserved for Love Me Members.)

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I guess we'll get a lot Kyoko running away scene in the future.♥
Spot-on. Exactly what I think. And I cannot say I'd be sorry about it. I always loved to watch Kyoko struggle with her feelings. Like, how she ran away from Ren after she gave him the finger ;)
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cleo said:
The stunt has been done, and she also has Princess Rosa back.

Really? To me it sounded, as if Princess Rosa's chain is under repair and only the stone itself is safe and sound at a throne or whatever Kyoko build for her. This is the main fact, why she paniced when she found out, Kijima wanted to see her twice as mature and beautiful. Because, after all, the 'mature spell' is something Princess Rosa casted on her while being Natsu. And she feared not to fulfil this task Kijima gave her. (Kyokos weird relationships to jobs, eh?)


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It was depressing to read most of the posts on here, tearing up the whole chapter and the last few. Thank you, Sirrah, for your post.

You are quite welcome. I agree with you wholeheartedly on the 'Give Nakamura some credit, guys!'-way of thinking.

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She was in debt to him, and it's not like Kijima is forceful and outright rude.

Agreed! The readers are only aware that Kijima is some kind of playboy because he is a fellow actor of Ren, after all. Kyoko wouldn't know such things. To her, he seems like a guy that paid her some beautiful magic makeup and a dress and who compliments her.

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Kyouko-chan is tough, that's why I love her. And romance with Ren was NEVER the whole core of the story. Anyone forgotten that?

:D We are on the same wavelength, i guess. I have to agree with you again there. I would be really disappointed if she just accepted her feelings. She isn't in LOVE ME for nothing. People tend to forget that as well. (And is it just me, or is Ren some kind of undercover Love Me Member now? Okay, a bit more appreciated by Lori and without annoying tasks and overall and stuff... but Cain seems like a way of overcoming a problem reserved for Love Me Members.)

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I guess we'll get a lot Kyoko running away scene in the future.♥

Spot-on. Exactly what I think. And I cannot say I'd be sorry about it. I always loved to watch Kyoko struggle with her feelings. Like, how she ran away from Ren after she gave him the finger ;)

Oh, and I put myself in line with those who kinda miss Sho and the Beagles. It would be a cool way to bring them back in, if Kyoko would be show this beautiful in the show-thing that’s going to broadcast interviews with the main actors. And Kyoko is one of the main actors, after all!
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Sirrah said:
cleo said:
The stunt has been done, and she also has Princess Rosa back.

Really? To me it sounded, as if Princess Rosa's chain is under repair and only the stone itself is safe and sound at a throne or whatever Kyoko build for her. This is the main fact, why she paniced when she found out, Kijima wanted to see her twice as mature and beautiful. Because, after all, the 'mature spell' is something Princess Rosa casted on her while being Natsu. And she feared not to fulfil this task Kijima gave her. (Kyokos weird relationships to jobs, eh?)

What I meant was: last we saw Princess Rosa was when she gave it to Ren, and there was something wrong with the lock. Now we learn it's back in Kyouko's possession, and the stone has come completely lose.
How did that happen? Ren is safe and sound, so he must've said something to her about how well it worked while giving it back.

I love the hint of progress, but not in a way that leaves a lot unanswered.
*still waiting what Ren's present was*
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Yeah and sorry for my bad English, it's not my first language as you could tell ^^;


Your "bad" English is better than the majority of peoples' good English. And no, I couldn't tell it wasn't your native language! Be proud! :-)

Sirrah said:
cleo said:
The stunt has been done, and she also has Princess Rosa back.

Really? To me it sounded, as if Princess Rosa's chain is under repair and only the stone itself is safe and sound at a throne or whatever Kyoko build for her.

Oh, and I put myself in line with those who kinda miss Sho and the Beagles. It would be a cool way to bring them back in, if Kyoko would be show this beautiful in the show-thing that’s going to broadcast interviews with the main actors. And Kyoko is one of the main actors, after all!


They are completely done filming Dark Moon so yes, the stunt has been done. Kyouko even mentions facing Ren in the final scene she has with him.

I don't just kinda miss Shou and Reino, I really miss them. Like I said earlier, I'm really looking forward to seeing Shou's reaction to how Kyouko looks when he sees the special program about Dark Moon aired. (I'm just assuming he'll see it!!!! He has to!!!)

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I loved Kyoko's trnasformation, I'm kinda hoping in the next chapter Ren will sweep her away from Kijima, and Sho I don't care about him beacuse he just creates too much drama and with him around Kyoko can't forget which means it will take longer for her to be with Ren anyway, Kyoko probably won't get anywhere with Ren, because she's stubborn like that, what I'm thinking is that she will talk to him when shes Bo again somehow, yeah ..
I figured the chapter would end once they seen each other i was kinda depressed. :(
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cleo said:
last we saw Princess Rosa was when she gave it to Ren, and there was something wrong with the lock. Now we learn it's back in Kyouko's possession, and the stone has come completely lose.
How did that happen? Ren is safe and sound, so he must've said something to her about how well it worked while giving it back.
It may be, that she just took it out. Kyoko was the one who made it into a necklace in the first place. Surely she would be able to take Princess Rosa out while the chain is beeing repared.

cleo said:
*still waiting what Ren's present was*
Yes, this is a bit confusing. I presumed that she combined the valentine gift and the birthday gift.

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(I'm just assuming he'll see it!!!! He has to!!!)
At least there is a high chance he will do so. We know he watches TV sometimes, when he is bored. And he totally has a thing for Kyoko. And Asami-san is friends with Ogata-san, right? So it would be only natural, that she would watch the special program and Sho could step in while she is watching it.
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i just hope that she doesn't act cold to ren...
she should accept her feelings for him!!!!!!

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also still waiting to find out about ren's present...


it really looks like she's going to try make tsuruga-san hate her or get jealous, the only way i can possibly like that outcome is if ren's dark side shows up as response ... mwahahah
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She's definitely gorgeous. I love Kyoko no matter what she looks like (:

but still... I kind of didn't want Kijima to see her in her "more attractive" form :/
He's too shallow. Dislike. Automatically disqualified to be Kyoko's lover.
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