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Kanade-chanOct 8, 2010 9:45 AM
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| After 2 episodes, going drop the serie, So sad this cg iron man , the trailer was better. Sorry stan lee, your iron man anime stink |
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| The CG is not that bad compared to some of the other shows that I have seen, this shows not first place on my list but it's not last place either. and i kinda enjoy Starks charming womanizing personality. |
| They actually keep highly enriched plutonium in a camera box =_=''' Those crooks must be retarted. The writers must have ran out of ideas to have to rely on the century old box trick |
Hydrazoid said: They actually keep highly enriched plutonium in a camera box =_=''' Those crooks must be retarted. The writers must have ran out of ideas to have to rely on the century old box trick I thought that was actually quite cheesy. |
| im sorry this show is ass. i had my hope up and was looking forward to it but it just to cheesy i mean the whole switch thing is so played out it had it point but they made iron man suck and that saying something but then again mybe i had hope up was expecting some thing like the live action and the comic put together so ill guess keep watch and hope that the show become godlke |
HydnlifeOct 10, 2010 1:52 AM
mel-hime said: This was actually a good episode....the american comic fans shouldn't have anything to complain about in my opinion....except for their own prejudice regarding the fact that it's now anime[better graphics] and not american cartoon.. i said it already last week comic fanboys will hate it because it is anime .... lol |
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bskbob said: mel-hime said: This was actually a good episode....the american comic fans shouldn't have anything to complain about in my opinion....except for their own prejudice regarding the fact that it's now anime[better graphics] and not american cartoon.. i said it already last week comic fanboys will hate it because it is anime .... lol I agree with this. I mean no matter how you put it, it doesn't seem much worse than your typical superhero American made cartoon. |
| ^That's not really a high standard to begin with. I agree with all the haters. I expected much more from a Madhouse/Marvel Collaboration. This isn't doing anime OR superheros any justice at all. There is SO much room for improvement. |
| I really love this series! The combat scenes and the charismatic Tony Stark are quite enjoyable to me :D But of course the comicfans become biased and say the cartoon is much better than the anime (which is not true to be honest). Definitely watching this entire show. |
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| good episode. Stark's car is cool. and Plutonium in the camera box? lol at those guys xD |
Bugsquasher said: But of course the comicfans become biased and say the cartoon is much better than the anime (which is not true to be honest) Actually the cartoon sucked even more than the anime. But that doesn't make the anime any better than it actually is... |
| outside the action nothing really special, but I can tell they're working on some things if any. Will continue to watch. |
| I think this episode was pretty okay, but I guess Tony has to fight a star sign every episode, which brings a predictability to the anime. I'd have liked it better if there's an element of surprise. I'm heartened by the fact that I saw the glowing core at Tony's chest, at least there's some link between the movie and the anime! |
Ryhzuo said: Bugsquasher said: But of course the comicfans become biased and say the cartoon is much better than the anime (which is not true to be honest) Actually the cartoon sucked even more than the anime. But that doesn't make the anime any better than it actually is... Yes but reading comments seems like this is the worst thing this season which is not true. I saw at least a few anime this season that started worse. Or is it simply that japanese looking shit with lame plot are excused because they keep there stupid moe look? It seems that all Iron Man has to do to not get so criticized is put a schoolgirl with different moe artwork (or a bishie for the girls) and it will get a better critic even if the plot is the same. |
| this is actually a good show....I for one like. the plutonium bit was cheesy, I'll give them that; but still, it won't affect my watching the series in any way. in the end, Haters gonna hate! |
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| I dont see the "Good" thing in this cg iron man, It looks to way CG, the movements are not fluid at all, and the combats are dull Seccond, Madhouse lie to us, Showing a trailer with a non CG iron man, with a art that totaly rocks and looks fantastics, and what they give us?, a Crap cg iron man, Tony star looks to much to Robert Downey Jr., and thats OK, the rest of animation "NO CG" is ok", This is like watch blue sub Nro 6, where the CG animation is far beyond crap, and the non cg animation is better. |
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K9001 said: I dont see the "Good" thing in this cg iron man, It looks to way CG, the movements are not fluid at all, and the combats are dull Seccond, Madhouse lie to us, Showing a trailer with a non CG iron man, with a art that totaly rocks and looks fantastics, and what they give us?, a Crap cg iron man, Tony star looks to much to Robert Downey Jr., and thats OK, the rest of animation "NO CG" is ok", This is like watch blue sub Nro 6, where the CG animation is far beyond crap, and the non cg animation is better. Yeah but you are more affected by what you expected in terms of artwork and animation with the resold of having a blurry view on judging it for what it is. I never saw the famous trailer and because of that i can see the show as it is and not find flaws where there aren't just because i expected better. In the end CG might not be the best thing but it's not bad CG at all it's actually quite well made considering other CG in anime. Is not even close to be far beyond crab so it makes me wonder about the abilities of you guys to distinguish such things. And in the end judging an anime simply by the fact that the CG of the main guy isn't to your liking is kind of swallow. How about all other things? Like entertainment, action, plot etc? Am not saying that is the best at those ether but it certainly isn't the worse and most people just criticize the show as bad but only speak about the CG Iron Man and nothing else. Hydrazoid said: They actually keep highly enriched plutonium in a camera box =_=''' Those crooks must be retarted. The writers must have ran out of ideas to have to rely on the century old box trick Are you shitting me? Didn't you saw the bag? That's one of those solid protective very well made expensive bags. Which i guess that's the reason the lenses had such a bag too since they are very expensive and need good protection from damage and even dust. What bag is it better to carry plutonium than that? It seems that you are the one who isn't smart enough. Except if you think they just threw the plutonium in the bag naked like that with out the plutonium being already in another canister inside a canister, something that will make you retarder if you think like that. |
Monad said: Are you shitting me? Didn't you saw the bag? That's one of those solid protective very well made expensive bags. Which i guess that's the reason the lenses had such a bag too since they are very expensive and need good protection from damage and even dust. What bag is it better to carry plutonium than that? It seems that you are the one who isn't smart enough. Except if you think they just threw the plutonium in the bag naked like that with out the plutonium being already in another canister inside a canister, something that will make you retarder if you think like that. Uh... Ok well first, lenses don't rust, cause they're well... you know, made of glass? Second, plutonium radioactivity requires several inches of solid lead to stop completely. I'm pretty sure no camera bag comes equipment with thick lead walls. Nor I imagine, would a camera bag be vacuumed out and air tight, which would become problematic since plutonium tarnishes on contact with oxygen. Thirdly... you'd think weapon's grade plutonium would be transported with a little more.... fineness... nuclear weaponry or not, I would have at least imagined the Japanese government to get involved with something like this. Then again, this is the anime universe where unicorns exist. |
Ryhzuo said: Monad said: Are you shitting me? Didn't you saw the bag? That's one of those solid protective very well made expensive bags. Which i guess that's the reason the lenses had such a bag too since they are very expensive and need good protection from damage and even dust. What bag is it better to carry plutonium than that? It seems that you are the one who isn't smart enough. Except if you think they just threw the plutonium in the bag naked like that with out the plutonium being already in another canister inside a canister, something that will make you retarder if you think like that. Uh... Ok well first, lenses don't rust, cause they're well... you know, made of glass? Second, plutonium radioactivity requires several inches of solid lead to stop completely. I'm pretty sure no camera bag comes equipment with thick lead walls. Nor I imagine, would a camera bag be vacuumed out and air tight, which would become problematic since plutonium tarnishes on contact with oxygen. Thirdly... you'd think weapon's grade plutonium would be transported with a little more.... fineness... nuclear weaponry or not, I would have at least imagined the Japanese government to get involved with something like this. Then again, this is the anime universe where unicorns exist. Rust???? o_0, Rust??????????. WTF??????????????? Am i typing in Chinese or something? Am pretty sure i said nothing about rust(although sometimes they do have metal parts but that's another story). It's DUST not rust. Read again. Thick lead walls?????.......THICK LEAD WALLS?????????.O_0. OXYGEN??????? am going crazy here. AGAIN, am i typing in CHINESE? Did you miss this part? Monad said: Except if you think they just threw the plutonium in the bag naked like that with out the plutonium being already in another canister inside a canister, something that will make you retarder if you think like that. Yeah come on take a guess on what material all those canisters inside canisters are made of. Yeah come on, come on, you can do it. Ata boy!! Maybe then you can figure out that they are airproof too. And how exactly to you expected it to be transporter? With an armored vehicle and the escort of an army? Does the purpose of ILLEGAL transportation escapes you? |
| This episode was better than the first one. I liked the action more too. Well there were some stupid things that were meeh.. like the thing with the bags that someone already mentioned. That was too old fashioned.. also i didn't get why that guy had to bump his bike on the tank. I mean yeah I get why they did that.. but on the other hand wasn't that tank really... like reeaaaally huge?! It already covered the whole street with its width?! Shooting in any range right ahead of him (avoiding the girl's bike ofc) he would have shot it... Even a beginner could aim randomly and hit the peripheral of this huge thing. Anyway... this show keeps creating questions and has plot holes and all, but It's not too bad. But not quite good either.. I think a 5/10 is quite fair of a score till now. |
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| Ok, massive logic fail on the reporter chick. She drives after Tony Stark's car going like 100 mph and almost hits a bunch of pedestrians, runs across railroad tracks and almost gets hit by a train, steals a random person's moped, and then drives that moped down a flight of stairs just for the sake of an interview. Those chain of events would've been somewhat plausible if that reporter would've lost her job if she didn't interview Tony Stark in the next few hours. But since that obviously wasn't the case, it seems all of that was just a drawn out plot device just to put her in danger and for the Ironman to save her. |
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Black_Kn1ght said: Ok, massive logic fail on the reporter chick. She drives after Tony Stark's car going like 100 mph and almost hits a bunch of pedestrians, runs across railroad tracks and almost gets hit by a train, steals a random person's moped, and then drives that moped down a flight of stairs just for the sake of an interview. Those chain of events would've been somewhat plausible if that reporter would've lost her job if she didn't interview Tony Stark in the next few hours. But since that obviously wasn't the case, it seems all of that was just a drawn out plot device just to put her in danger and for the Ironman to save her. Reporters do crazy things for a story in true life but you are right that in this case it seemed stupid mostly because she meets him all the time and second she could follow him any other time than that specific moment where he was racing in the streets. JusticeUndone said: This episode was better than the first one. I liked the action more too. Well there were some stupid things that were meeh.. like the thing with the bags that someone already mentioned. That was too old fashioned.. also i didn't get why that guy had to bump his bike on the tank. I mean yeah I get why they did that.. but on the other hand wasn't that tank really... like reeaaaally huge?! It already covered the whole street with its width?! Shooting in any range right ahead of him (avoiding the girl's bike ofc) he would have shot it... Even a beginner could aim randomly and hit the peripheral of this huge thing. Anyway... this show keeps creating questions and has plot holes and all, but It's not too bad. But not quite good either.. I think a 5/10 is quite fair of a score till now. The tank thing was a lot more stupid than the bag. As i explained the bag isn't that stupid at all. But in the case of the tank i was wondering what his problem was also. He doesn't need to see it, it's right infrond him anyway he could just shoot dead ahead and it would have been a certain hit. |
| Decent episode. Better than first for sure. Yea the chain of events that happened in the car chase with the reporter is kinda stupid but Stark cmon and you chase them with car .... when you got IronMan suite that can fly and just lift the car with your hands = FAIL |
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| I thought the car chase was enjoyable. I thought that the fights weren't as bad as last time, but still not amazing in any way. Damn that reporter is annoying though. |
| The fight scenes are okay but the CG looks really off when he's walking/moving to point a-b :/ |
Monad said: K9001 said: I dont see the "Good" thing in this cg iron man, It looks to way CG, the movements are not fluid at all, and the combats are dull Seccond, Madhouse lie to us, Showing a trailer with a non CG iron man, with a art that totaly rocks and looks fantastics, and what they give us?, a Crap cg iron man, Tony star looks to much to Robert Downey Jr., and thats OK, the rest of animation "NO CG" is ok", This is like watch blue sub Nro 6, where the CG animation is far beyond crap, and the non cg animation is better. Yeah but you are more affected by what you expected in terms of artwork and animation with the resold of having a blurry view on judging it for what it is. I never saw the famous trailer and because of that i can see the show as it is and not find flaws where there aren't just because i expected better. In the end CG might not be the best thing but it's not bad CG at all it's actually quite well made considering other CG in anime. Is not even close to be far beyond crab so it makes me wonder about the abilities of you guys to distinguish such things. And in the end judging an anime simply by the fact that the CG of the main guy isn't to your liking is kind of swallow. How about all other things? Like entertainment, action, plot etc? Am not saying that is the best at those ether but it certainly isn't the worse and most people just criticize the show as bad but only speak about the CG Iron Man and nothing else. Look, is knowed from history that anime+cg animation , some times suck, iron man is one of this case. I`be checked the history of madhouse anime`s releases, and they have exelent animes with exelent quality , Also the director Sato, Yuzo, Have exelent anime history...., i dont understand why both Madhouse and Sato, did this awful cg iron man Is like a insult for the others animes they have.... From my pov and severals ppl from the Marvel univers forum, this iron man anime is a big fail I know stan lee read the marvel forum, i hope he can answer to the community why this anime looks so cheap... Sorry for being a a$$, i`m pissed of for how the things flipped, from the trailer to this low budget anime Thanks and sorry for the argue. P.D: Sorry for my english Regards |
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| The series so far really isn't anything special, but in all honesty I never expected it to be great. Its only 12 episodes, and I love Iron Man and anime. So I'm gonna end up watching the entire thing. 3/5. I'll admit I'm being generous. |
| Meh, this show isn't good. I don't really see a positive thing about it. There are negatives, but they all have to do with the fact that this is mediocre...except for Nanami chasing after Tony and the plutonium switcheroo. Those are just bad. As far as this keeping up with American cartoons, Batman the Brave and the Bold, and Spectacular Spider Man are critically acclaimed super hero shows from the past few years, so I saying it's on par with them is just wrong. And the reason is this: American adaptations of superhero shows aren't all that episodic. They're serialized. There's always some current of a story following through. The only example of a good superhero cartoon that isn't is Batman the Brave and the Bold, and that went super campy. Iron Man does neither. It's cheesy in a 1990s anime sort of way with the music, dialogue, characterization, and format; It's not all that funny; and rather than really do something that felt like they took their time to make something keeping the universe intact, they just do a cheap port. There's zero intelligence in the way the show is done, and for a show about one of the Marvel Universe's smartest men, it's a let down. And I haven't seen the trailer. I'll go look now, though. EDIT: WOW...nevermind. I think I did see this when they first announced this a long time ago. That was laughably different and misleading. I have a lot less hope for the other shows coming up, because I remember being impressed by the Wolverine one, and I don't even care for him like that. Hilarious. |
noteDheroOct 10, 2010 7:51 PM
| Trailer was made by Koike Takeshi, its looks that madhouse Couldn't pay hin for do the series..., and changed for a low budget cgi iron man. @noteDhero Look, if the iron man looks totaly awsome, and the anime is crap The use the inverted formula with the wolverine trailer/anime, Gay trailer, so the anime should be pure win @edit 2: some Marver forum quotes somewhere there Like Steinman, from BioShock 1 Said. "It's Ugly... Ugly!! UGLY!!!!!!" CGI? If i wanted to see "Armored Adventures", i would fucking see AA. I love Iron Man, since the "Tales of Suspense" comics (Not that i lived in that era), this is GUndam Wing gone Dragon Ball Z. I wanted Hi Tech, awesome iron clad action, not this CGI unholy shit. The first trailer looked awesome, Damn, even Potts (Which i love) kicked ass in there, there was a Captain Crunch gone Guyver... It had everything. This is SAD ººººº What i think happened here is Marvel saw the positive fan feedback on the parts of "Batman Gotham Knight," Madhouse created and decided to go the Madhouse Route thinking fans would be attracted to it. However, i just watched the first episode and was not impressed at all. the first scene he almost takes out a civilian aircraft with his personal jet? no way, he's reckless, but just with regards to himself, not civilians. And the CG sucked...it was actually worse than i thought it would be... ºººº I blame america for this cg atrosity. Way to go guys. Follow Japan's lead and make life normal and good again. CG = VERY BAD! ººººº I agree that the anime version of the last trailer was much better than this 3D version... Moreover, the 3D animation is very imperfect. ºººº @note I`be reading severals blogs / forums / video comments and there is more thumbs down that thumb up... |
ArpadiamOct 10, 2010 8:14 PM
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| much better than the 1st ep.. but still it needs more improvements.. |
K9001 said: Trailer was made by Koike Takeshi, its looks that madhouse Couldn't pay hin for do the series..., and changed for a low budget cgi iron man. @noteDhero Look, if the iron man looks totaly awsome, and the anime is crap The use the inverted formula with the wolverine trailer/anime, Gay trailer, so the anime should be pure win @edit 2: some Marver forum quotes somewhere there Like Steinman, from BioShock 1 Said. "It's Ugly... Ugly!! UGLY!!!!!!" CGI? If i wanted to see "Armored Adventures", i would fucking see AA. I love Iron Man, since the "Tales of Suspense" comics (Not that i lived in that era), this is GUndam Wing gone Dragon Ball Z. I wanted Hi Tech, awesome iron clad action, not this CGI unholy shit. The first trailer looked awesome, Damn, even Potts (Which i love) kicked ass in there, there was a Captain Crunch gone Guyver... It had everything. This is SAD ººººº What i think happened here is Marvel saw the positive fan feedback on the parts of "Batman Gotham Knight," Madhouse created and decided to go the Madhouse Route thinking fans would be attracted to it. However, i just watched the first episode and was not impressed at all. the first scene he almost takes out a civilian aircraft with his personal jet? no way, he's reckless, but just with regards to himself, not civilians. And the CG sucked...it was actually worse than i thought it would be... ºººº I blame america for this cg atrosity. Way to go guys. Follow Japan's lead and make life normal and good again. CG = VERY BAD! ººººº I agree that the anime version of the last trailer was much better than this 3D version... Moreover, the 3D animation is very imperfect. ºººº @note I`be reading severals blogs / forums / video comments and there is more thumbs down that thumb up... I don't think I understood anything after the first sentence. |
| This is poor execution on something I thought would be very entertaining. It's not horrible, but it is corny. And agree on all the comments about the trailer being misleading. |
noteDhero said: I don't think I understood anything after the first sentence. Well, dont worry, aint gona say anything more, i`be send a mail to SL, if i get a response from hin about the atrocity of "iron3dcheapman, gona post the reply here. Again, sorry for being a a$$ and argue. Thx and regards |
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| It wasn't that you were an ass. It was that your grammar was so all over the place that I couldn't understand it. Also, Stan Lee had nothing to do with this, so that won't help with anything. |
| I like this anime so far. Never seen cartoon, but saw both movies. 1st movie is great, 2nd not so good at all. Anime Is much better than the second movie but worse than 1st movie. Thats my opinion. |
noteDhero said: It wasn't that you were an ass. It was that your grammar was so all over the place that I couldn't understand it. Also, Stan Lee had nothing to do with this, so that won't help with anything. Are you serious?, Stan lee have much to do here, is the general supervisor, also provide the plot, like all his work where hes is named, That the stan lee way to work, that why he allways apears in all his super heroes movies... Sorry about my grammar, english is not my mother language |
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| Where did you hear that? Stan Lee hasn't been working at Marvel for as long as some of us were alive. Madhouse was given free reign if I'm not mistaken. He appears in the movies as a cameo/actor. Not because he has anything to do with the production beyond being the creator of the characters. |
| Wow! That was a definite step up from the first episode! There were plenty more fights and the CG was much more fluid than the first. Kudos to you MADHOUSE :D. Looks like we will be seeing another contender for the superhero position XD. Plenty of suspense to keep me watching, Keep it going higher MADHOUSE! Does anyonw know anything about the "ZODIAC" they have been refering to? |
| Definite step up from ep 1. CG was much more fluid and fights were spectacular :D ! Looks like Iron has another person contending for the superhero position, sidekick maybe? Well there is enough suspense to keep me watching, Keep going higher MADHOUSE! |
noteDhero said: Where did you hear that? Stan Lee hasn't been working at Marvel for as long as some of us were alive. Madhouse was given free reign if I'm not mistaken. He appears in the movies as a cameo/actor. Not because he has anything to do with the production beyond being the creator of the characters. comic con 2009, was stan lee that give the "ok" to marvel and madhouse, he also say he was gona supervise all the work. |
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| You're going to have to show some links. All I've found is that Warren Ellis came up with the treatments for all 4 shows, and that he expected there to be rewrites he wasn't aware of. http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/07/27/iron-man-wolverine-and-more-marvel-anime-projects-head-to-g4-in-2011/ |
| yup, i don't really enjoy the CG/animation in this series. however, the action makes up for it i guess. (Animation reminds me of Hajime no Ippo :P) has anyone seen iron man armored adventures? i enjoyed the youthful tony stark and also the animation on that series. |
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noteDhero said: You're going to have to show some links. All I've found is that Warren Ellis came up with the treatments for all 4 shows, and that he expected there to be rewrites he wasn't aware of. [url=http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/07/27/iron-man-wolverine-and-more-marvel-anime-projects-head-to-g4-in-2011/]http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/07/27/iron-man-wolverine-and-more-marvel-anime-projects-head-to-g4-in-2011/ I cant show it with "Links" the only video there is, is a short interview with stan in CC2009, after that he talk to the public in a open microfone scenario anouncing the proyect about new series and one of that was iron man anime. I was there and i lister what he say. but i`m tired of all this, if you wanna keep the argue or the debate, do it via pm. BTW, you can add stan lee in facebook and ask hin personaly, it take time, but he answer to all his fans. |
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| Haha, I was right that this will go with an "enemy of the week" format with Zodiac and this show having 12 episodes. Reporter chase for a lousy interview, plutonium switch and the cloaking tank right in front of Iron Man sure was dumb but the music and the fights make up for it a little. It's too early to say what they're planning with stealing the Dio last episode and the plutonium in this one but we know it's for "evil" and other stuff that villains think of. With the addition of a new character and a twister robot next episode, things can get really predictable and cliched. But eh, I'm enjoying this show so it's not a big deal for me. |
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| Well I didn't go into this thinking the story was going to be amazing or anything ^^ but one thing this episode did really well was the car chase scene. I think that's the first time I've ever seen a car chase in anime...well except for death note. |
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