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Apr 3, 4:39 PM
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I wanted to say something about this new trend called the "Ghibli Filter" that if you don't know about it, people started to generate pictures of themselves through AI so they can appear as a Ghibli character. Personally, I think it's very offensive not just to the staff and Miyazaki sensei himself, but to the art community in general. Art is the one thing that one can fully express him/herself, and to see it being replaced so easily through just a command that takes mostly a minute to generate, it's sad and disgusting. Like Miyazaki said; "It's an insult to life itself". Couldn't agree more. Artists spend most of their lives trying to entertain the audience by pouring all of their souls and creativity, sharing their unique ideas and concepts. Something that doesn't require a sacrifice, is never meant to be beautiful. I remember seeing a video about the movie "Wind Rises", in which a single certain cut that visualizes people just moving, took over a year to make. Just a single scene. That seemed insane to me. That shows how much Miyazaki appreciates the authentic method of animating by paper and pencil only to this day. I mean yeah I have used AI to generate art just from the curiosity because it was a new thing, but to share it online so that other people can see it, I don't think it's cool at all. Just put yourself in the artists' shoes. I know, it's pretty shit. Seeing your talent wither away by a soulless machine. And to make it even better, I am sure 95% of the people that have used this filter, have no clue what Ghibli is. And if you knew but still decided to hop on the trend, that's even worse. It means you didn't understand anything and you're just a sheep following each other's butt, just because the shephard doesn't know what the fuck he's doing with his life. People may say it's not that serious, it's just a silly trend, but that's the problem. Their carelessness and the idea of being united in a stupid temporary thing just because why not, may be fatal to those who truly care. And I'm sad that this time, the victim of these ignorants is the studio that appreciates life the most. I wanna know your opinions as well and sorry if this article sounded a bit pretentious (I'm an Eva fan after all).
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Apr 3, 5:25 PM
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Normally I would complain about the effects of AI on the art and animation community but I think that this is one of the rare times that AI is actually relatively harmless, they aren’t replacing any artists, it’s as simple as seeing how the filter recreates your face in another artstyle. This is something that is only really possible with a filter.
Apr 3, 5:49 PM
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I side with Miyazaki and I don't think a style like ghiblis can be "recreated". Yes the filter looks really good and it looks almost like the ghibli style, but you can't recreate ghibli. In every single movie they have made you can really see how much effort and passion they have put towards the projects. That is something you can hardly create with some ai tools.

As Miyazaki stated that he feels like AI is an "insult to life itself" I know for a fact that a lot of others still feel this same way. And at the end of the day, we all still appreciate things more when you know true passion and hard work is what thrived it to be created. I wont ever have the same feeling that ghibli gave to me from some artificial intelligent computer artist
Apr 3, 6:42 PM
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Check out the edit I made for it

https://youtu.be/2vbR2K9Nex0?si=vzRTY7PY1zVUYtV4
Apr 3, 6:44 PM
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Words, words, words. I'm not necessarily pro-AI, but I'll support it for as long as it pisses off obnoxious Twitter users.
Apr 3, 7:23 PM
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get yourself a life brother, this is not a real problem.
Apr 3, 7:58 PM
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What I find funny is how people used to complain about AI companies stealing data—like when Meta was using Instagram and Facebook photos to train their models. But now those same people are willingly uploading their personal photos to OpenAI without a second thought. Suddenly, they have no problem with it?
It’s not like OpenAI isn’t going to use that data either. 🤣
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I 100% agree with you. To go along with it negatively impacting the art world (I’m an artist), the software they’re using to make them is terrible for the environment. I wish AI wasn’t used this way.
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not to offend or be rude but I just wanna say that the statement of Miyazaki is actually from back in 2016 when he was shown an AI generated animation and he was actually disgusted because it was about a person with disability or something I can't remember for which he is it is insult to life itself, you can google it or search it up whichever way it suits you. Again, I'm not trying to be rude or discard your words, it's just people have been spreading this misinformation so I just thought you may be unaware of it as well, so it's just me giving you a piece of information and not to change your pov or something.

and about the trend.... I find this really harmless and love how people are having fun with it, it can never copy the essence of Ghibli or Miyazaki but it's somewhat still beautiful and people are loving it. Trends are supposed to be like that when everyone does or follows a certain something, and this one seems harmless to me and people are enjoying it. Many of my friends who never saw anime are asking me about the Ghibli anime and I have recommended them spirited away, grave of fireflies and the other masterpieces and they indeed watched and loved it. So yeah it's reaching audiences and actually kinda promoting Ghibli or anime in general.

About art, everyone has different opinions and I respect that, and in this my opinion is that, I dint think AI is at fault here or the people using it, people have been using filters since ages and many artistic features as well, like the monalisha art filter, and different artist styles but no one complained, if people have complain with this people should also try to stop other artist who try to copy other famous artist's art style or paintings, for example recently Vincent van gough's start night got so popular and many artists copied and potrayed the art style and showed in their own ways, it was being printed as phone cases, t shirts and no one was complaining. If this is wrong then that was wrong too. And if people are complaining about art being copied or copyrights, then artist should stop creating fan arts or make any kind of art of anime characters cuz that design belong to a certain animation studio or character artist. Artists copy art styles and characters since ages but now since AI did that by commands of humans it's somehow an insult to the art. If people really wanna respect artists then they should stop watching anime from pirated sites as it doesn't only disrepects the efforts of them but also snatches away their pays due to less profit.
For me art is inspiration and it should be spread everywhere and everyone should be able to take the essence of it, no one, litteraly no one can copy art, they can take inspiration but the original will be original, it is still ghibli's art and not OpenAI. The problem will be if they try to own it or say that it's their original, but they don't and everyone now knows what Ghibli is.

it got too long, sorry😅. I hope I didn't offend anyone and it's just my opinion on the take, you all are welcome to agree or disagree as per your convenience. English isn't my first language so sorry for any mistakes.
Have a great day and lovely life everyone!!
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I hate ai art... its an insult to even theword 'art' itself. Its nothing but slop that steals from the talents of others as if it's just some flavor of the week.

It may look like Ghibli's style but it will never capture the spirit of what makes these works truly special for many generations.
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imo it couldn't have happened to a more deserving person

americans think he's some wholesome chungus

god forbid they actually think he's like a feminist or something
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I agree with Hayao Miyazaki. It’s an insult to even call this “art”.

All you’re doing is just having a robot generate art for you. There’s no creativity, no soul, nothing put into this “art”. Not to mention, AI art steals from other artists without crediting them.

This will never be “art”.
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axelbarcafan said:
I hate ai art... its an insult to even theword 'art' itself. Its nothing but slop that steals from the talents of others as if it's just some flavor of the week.

It may look like Ghibli's style but it will never capture the spirit of what makes these works truly special for many generations.

I agree, we humans have advanced way too far
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Fukoku said:
I agree with Hayao Miyazaki. It’s an insult to even call this “art”.

All you’re doing is just having a robot generate art for you. There’s no creativity, no soul, nothing put into this “art”. Not to mention, AI art steals from other artists without crediting them.

This will never be “art”.

my words precisely.
quote, "True art is characterized by an irresistible urge in the creative artist."
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Fukoku said:
I agree with Hayao Miyazaki. It’s an insult to even call this “art”.

All you’re doing is just having a robot generate art for you. There’s no creativity, no soul, nothing put into this “art”. Not to mention, AI art steals from other artists without crediting them.

This will never be “art”.

my words precisely.
quote, "True art is characterized by an irresistible urge in the creative artist."
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Check out the edit I made for it

https://youtu.be/2vbR2K9Nex0?si=vzRTY7PY1zVUYtV4
@Thisas It's really beautiful. Thank you
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get yourself a life brother, this is not a real problem.
@Fabio_Costa_ Well, this reply proves my point
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not to offend or be rude but I just wanna say that the statement of Miyazaki is actually from back in 2016 when he was shown an AI generated animation and he was actually disgusted because it was about a person with disability or something I can't remember for which he is it is insult to life itself, you can google it or search it up whichever way it suits you. Again, I'm not trying to be rude or discard your words, it's just people have been spreading this misinformation so I just thought you may be unaware of it as well, so it's just me giving you a piece of information and not to change your pov or something.

and about the trend.... I find this really harmless and love how people are having fun with it, it can never copy the essence of Ghibli or Miyazaki but it's somewhat still beautiful and people are loving it. Trends are supposed to be like that when everyone does or follows a certain something, and this one seems harmless to me and people are enjoying it. Many of my friends who never saw anime are asking me about the Ghibli anime and I have recommended them spirited away, grave of fireflies and the other masterpieces and they indeed watched and loved it. So yeah it's reaching audiences and actually kinda promoting Ghibli or anime in general.

About art, everyone has different opinions and I respect that, and in this my opinion is that, I dint think AI is at fault here or the people using it, people have been using filters since ages and many artistic features as well, like the monalisha art filter, and different artist styles but no one complained, if people have complain with this people should also try to stop other artist who try to copy other famous artist's art style or paintings, for example recently Vincent van gough's start night got so popular and many artists copied and potrayed the art style and showed in their own ways, it was being printed as phone cases, t shirts and no one was complaining. If this is wrong then that was wrong too. And if people are complaining about art being copied or copyrights, then artist should stop creating fan arts or make any kind of art of anime characters cuz that design belong to a certain animation studio or character artist. Artists copy art styles and characters since ages but now since AI did that by commands of humans it's somehow an insult to the art. If people really wanna respect artists then they should stop watching anime from pirated sites as it doesn't only disrepects the efforts of them but also snatches away their pays due to less profit.
For me art is inspiration and it should be spread everywhere and everyone should be able to take the essence of it, no one, litteraly no one can copy art, they can take inspiration but the original will be original, it is still ghibli's art and not OpenAI. The problem will be if they try to own it or say that it's their original, but they don't and everyone now knows what Ghibli is.

it got too long, sorry😅. I hope I didn't offend anyone and it's just my opinion on the take, you all are welcome to agree or disagree as per your convenience. English isn't my first language so sorry for any mistakes.
Have a great day and lovely life everyone!!
@Animesh5877 Thank your for your opinion. I am quite aware with Miyazaki's statement and it's actual meaning but I used it just to strengthen my points cause it has some similarity with this topic. Other than that, really respect your well-put thoughts. Hope you have an amazing one!!
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Tomi3b said:
Artists spend most of their lives trying to entertain the audience by pouring all of their souls and creativity, sharing their unique ideas and concepts. Something that doesn't require a sacrifice, is never meant to be beautiful.

They can also do that by using AI as a creative tool, and something can also be beautiful without sacrifice.
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Ghibli is not just A Filter or a Style. its Movies are a perfect Combination of Music, Characters, Storyline, Animation and All the Efforts made by Artists made by Artists.

AI can only Copy the Artstyle just like a normal Filter but what about Other things. I've seen so many posts of my Friends who are following this blind trend and don't know any single thing about Anime. after Seeing their posts made by AI i can say that this machine doesn't have accuracy like the artists. i mean The People's faces, background, their outfit, hairs, Buildings and Sceneries are also be changed if the images will be converted. i can Bet that if Studio will be tasked to create our Image or the place you loved to See in their Artstyle. they can make 1000.... X better than this Silly Machine.

just Like Miyazaki ; shinkai is Also The Perfect example of how the Artists can adapt to any real life locations in Anime movies or Series. this can be never done by the AI.
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His statement about ai isnt really about that but i get it (nimesh explained above), anyway AI indeed is just a soulless amalgamation of already created things meshed up to compose an inferior format. However, it doesnt replace the original and it is not like the filter will ruin everything ghibli as done or represents, people talk as if it was a picture-perfect stolen representation of it and that is exagerated since it is just a harmless filter and an imperfect one, nothing for example can replace ghibli's excellent animation (again, it is a filter, it is not meant to replace it). Regardless, it is fine to dislike AI for meshing up stuff. I dont find AI appealing in a serious manner, i like the potential it has for funny stuff only. AI has some other uses as well as tool, not as much in replicating art (replicate not create bcs it cant create). This filter drama is a non-problem anyway.

What is ridiculous that did come out of this "anti-trend" are self-righteous clowns that feel morally superior sending hate and attacking everyone that makes use of the AI ghibli filter for any reason it may be (person like that care less about AI and more about finding justifications to excuse their desire to feel morally above and to feel important, which is what happens the most with controversies). That includes using negative terms to refer to them. A lot of people are simply having fun turning their pics cuter/wholesome or nicer with the filter, they discovered the style of the filter with the trend and find it cool (some are even interested in knowing more about ghibli because of it), it is pathetic for someone to send hate to someone over that (and i barely use this word). No, those actively doing any of that are not virtuous activists nor are any superior/brighter.

I personally dont care about this internet trend, but regardless of that, if someone genuinely doesnt like it or is being vocally against it to hop on the "anti ghibli filter" trend, then whatever, they can write/make hundreds of texts about it and what not, but actively seeking (or erdorsing) to call out everyone that is using it and their family to denigrate and ridicule them for it is ridiculous
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If only people cared this much about real problems
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There's literally nothing wrong with an AI art filter, unless it's monetized.
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
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Words, words, words. I'm not necessarily pro-AI, but I'll support it for as long as it pisses off obnoxious Twitter users.

You sound insufferable yourself
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Realicle said:
If only people cared this much about real problems

As if you care about those so-called “real problems” yourself, fellow MAL user.
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tabbycatcircus said:
Fishb0i said:
Words, words, words. I'm not necessarily pro-AI, but I'll support it for as long as it pisses off obnoxious Twitter users.

You sound insufferable yourself

That, I am. What of it?
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Bolona07 said:
Normally I would complain about the effects of AI on the art and animation community but I think that this is one of the rare times that AI is actually relatively harmless, they aren’t replacing any artists, it’s as simple as seeing how the filter recreates your face in another artstyle. This is something that is only really possible with a filter.

it is also possible by commissioning real artists…?
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mnookmi said:
Bolona07 said:
Normally I would complain about the effects of AI on the art and animation community but I think that this is one of the rare times that AI is actually relatively harmless, they aren’t replacing any artists, it’s as simple as seeing how the filter recreates your face in another artstyle. This is something that is only really possible with a filter.

it is also possible by commissioning real artists…?

And why the hell would I do that if I can do it for free in 15 seconds? Yall dont understand that we undergoing an industrial revolution just like people have before and jobs / occupations / hobbies will drastically change and get replaced. Thats the reality of things.

No one in their right mind would commision someone and pay them to plow their land if there is a machine that will do it faster and for cheaper than a person, even though that person wouldve done a neater and more sophisticated job.
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There's literally nothing wrong with an AI art filter, unless it's monetized.

yess i totally agree with that also
people should keep it to themselves
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There are much worse problems in the real world
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TkoPro said:
mnookmi said:

it is also possible by commissioning real artists…?

And why the hell would I do that if I can do it for free in 15 seconds? Yall dont understand that we undergoing an industrial revolution just like people have before and jobs / occupations / hobbies will drastically change and get replaced. Thats the reality of things.

No one in their right mind would commision someone and pay them to plow their land if there is a machine that will do it faster and for cheaper than a person, even though that person wouldve done a neater and more sophisticated job.

One more thing to rely on that’s bad for the environment and culture
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TkoPro said:

And why the hell would I do that if I can do it for free in 15 seconds? Yall dont understand that we undergoing an industrial revolution just like people have before and jobs / occupations / hobbies will drastically change and get replaced. Thats the reality of things.

No one in their right mind would commision someone and pay them to plow their land if there is a machine that will do it faster and for cheaper than a person, even though that person wouldve done a neater and more sophisticated job.

One more thing to rely on that’s bad for the environment and culture

Read up if you want to be actually informed about the things you say on the internet:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-54271-x

If youre too lazy to read then Ill summarize for you:

"Our findings reveal that Al systems emit between 130 and 1500 times less CO2e per page of text generated compared to human writers, while Al illustration systems emit between 310 and 2900 times less CO2e per image than their human counterparts."

So your argument is what exactly?
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Realicle said:
If only people cared this much about real problems

As if you care about those so-called “real problems” yourself, fellow MAL user.

Ahhh yes, keep projecting. Im not the one complaining about it on mal though, am i?
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I honestly would be livid if people were using ai versions of my art. It kinda is a slap in the face after creating beautiful films
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I'm fine with AI as long as it doesn't affect anyone negativity. And the Ghibli trend doesn't hurt anyone besides the ChatGPT servers.
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General word of advice to the anti-AI crowd/artists if you want people to side with your cause maybe don’t go around demonizing people for using a chatbot gpt filter on a picture of their dog/family. You end up looking like those vegans who want you to support their cause yet at the same time will call you a monster for wanting to eat a steak. This is why people have rapidly lost sympathy for you, the art communities online already had a bad reputation for being toxic but this AI fear mongering and demonizing of anyone who isn’t allergic to AI has slowly turned entire swathes of the internet against you. More and more I am seeing people dance on the graves of artists careers out of sheer spite and apathy. (oh and posting pictures of fanart and corn on X and Instagram doesn’t make you an artist on the same level as Miyazaki or Da Vinci so stop acting so pretentious whilst you are at it)
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TkoPro said:
tabbycatcircus said:

One more thing to rely on that’s bad for the environment and culture

Read up if you want to be actually informed about the things you say on the internet:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-54271-x

If youre too lazy to read then Ill summarize for you:

"Our findings reveal that Al systems emit between 130 and 1500 times less CO2e per page of text generated compared to human writers, while Al illustration systems emit between 310 and 2900 times less CO2e per image than their human counterparts."

So your argument is what exactly?

First your shitty study includes human emissions generated from existing, which can always lessen if we stop using cars for example, and stopped eating factory farmed meat. Second this does not include AI’s need for clean water which is a precious resource. A laptop for drawings does not consume water and has a longer life. Moreover you don’t need to rely on yet more microchips with rare earth metals, because in order to access those giant servers you need a laptop anyway, and before you bring up the internet etc. if you use Ai art you’re using the internet too lmao.
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VanillaSalt11037 said:
General word of advice to the anti-AI crowd/artists if you want people to side with your cause maybe don’t go around demonizing people for using a chatbot gpt filter on a picture of their dog/family. You end up looking like those vegans who want you to support their cause yet at the same time will call you a monster for wanting to eat a steak. This is why people have rapidly lost sympathy for you, the art communities online already had a bad reputation for being toxic but this AI fear mongering and demonizing of anyone who isn’t allergic to AI has slowly turned entire swathes of the internet against you. More and more I am seeing people dance on the graves of artists careers out of sheer spite and apathy. (oh and posting pictures of fanart and corn on X and Instagram doesn’t make you an artist on the same level as Miyazaki or Da Vinci so stop acting so pretentious whilst you are at it)

And yet shaming works. Now people are a little more conscious of their actions and their environmental impact. Bring back feeling remorse.
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Realicle said:
tabbycatcircus said:

As if you care about those so-called “real problems” yourself, fellow MAL user.

Ahhh yes, keep projecting. Im not the one complaining about it on mal though, am i?

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Bolona07 said:
Normally I would complain about the effects of AI on the art and animation community but I think that this is one of the rare times that AI is actually relatively harmless, they aren’t replacing any artists, it’s as simple as seeing how the filter recreates your face in another artstyle. This is something that is only really possible with a filter.

Shut up you faker.
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Fabio_Costa_ said:
get yourself a life brother, this is not a real problem.

get a job bro. quit hogging around being a sluggish american
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tabbycatcircus said:
TkoPro said:

Read up if you want to be actually informed about the things you say on the internet:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-54271-x

If youre too lazy to read then Ill summarize for you:

"Our findings reveal that Al systems emit between 130 and 1500 times less CO2e per page of text generated compared to human writers, while Al illustration systems emit between 310 and 2900 times less CO2e per image than their human counterparts."

So your argument is what exactly?

First your shitty study includes human emissions generated from existing, which can always lessen if we stop using cars for example, and stopped eating factory farmed meat. Second this does not include AI’s need for clean water which is a precious resource. A laptop for drawings does not consume water and has a longer life. Moreover you don’t need to rely on yet more microchips with rare earth metals, because in order to access those giant servers you need a laptop anyway, and before you bring up the internet etc. if you use Ai art you’re using the internet too lmao.

Your solutions such as stop using cars and stop eating factory farmed meat are unrealistic and quite priviledged, probably coming from someone living in a first world country.

A laptop for drawing doesnt consume said materials but the user does, and thats what is important. You're imagining some type of utopia in which humans have very little co2 emissions which is impossible in our world. Get real and stop fantasizing about stupid shit no one is going to adapt to.

Also, dont call studies that are helping advance and understand technology and its impact "shitty" when youre a person writing on the internet with no real contribution to humanity.
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@tabbycatcircus Baby’s first deflection. Dont block next time you wanna start something bit
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@tabbycatcircus Baby’s first deflection. Dont block next time you wanna start something bit
@Realicle no one blocked you lmao.
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tabbycatcircus said:
TkoPro said:

Read up if you want to be actually informed about the things you say on the internet:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-54271-x

If youre too lazy to read then Ill summarize for you:

"Our findings reveal that Al systems emit between 130 and 1500 times less CO2e per page of text generated compared to human writers, while Al illustration systems emit between 310 and 2900 times less CO2e per image than their human counterparts."

So your argument is what exactly?

First your shitty study includes human emissions generated from existing, which can always lessen if we stop using cars for example, and stopped eating factory farmed meat. Second this does not include AI’s need for clean water which is a precious resource. A laptop for drawings does not consume water and has a longer life. Moreover you don’t need to rely on yet more microchips with rare earth metals, because in order to access those giant servers you need a laptop anyway, and before you bring up the internet etc. if you use Ai art you’re using the internet too lmao.

Your solutions such as stop using cars and stop eating factory farmed meat are unrealistic and quite priviledged, probably coming from someone living in a first world country.

A laptop for drawing doesnt consume said materials but the user does, and thats what is important. You're imagining some type of utopia in which humans have very little co2 emissions which is impossible in our world. Get real and stop fantasizing about stupid shit no one is going to adapt to.

Also, dont call studies that are helping advance and understand technology and its impact "shitty" when youre a person writing on the internet with no real contribution to humanity.
@TkoPro
"stop using cars" isn't a privileged take you obvious American, when public transportation is much more efficient and takes up less space and resources. But sure keep getting fooled by the automobile industry.
And most grains are used to feed shitty meat products instead of directly feeding people. Meat is not sustainable, you are privileged, you cannot fathom eating meat once a week.
"The user" is going to exist and consume materials anyway AI or not lmao, what is this argument
Also "contributions to humanity" is very nebulous. Can you say that destructive path we're on is a great contribution? Is anything like this worth it when it leads to more environmental sustainability? The best thing you can do is help your community and life a fulfilled life.
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@TkoPro
"stop using cars" isn't a privileged take you obvious American, when public transportation is much more efficient and takes up less space and resources. But sure keep getting fooled by the automobile industry.
And most grains are used to feed shitty meat products instead of directly feeding people. Meat is not sustainable, you are privileged, you cannot fathom eating meat once a week.
"The user" is going to exist and consume materials anyway AI or not lmao, what is this argument
Also "contributions to humanity" is very nebulous. Can you say that destructive path we're on is a great contribution? Is anything like this worth it when it leads to more environmental sustainability? The best thing you can do is help your community and life a fulfilled life.

It is a priviledged take, I live in a third world country in the Balkans btw, using public transport is a hell you probably can't even imagine. But keep on yapping about how it's "more sustainable" and "efficient" when you yourself probably don't use public transport daily to get to university (Which I do, and I wouldn't wich it upon anybody) or you live in a place which is not as densely populated. Either way your point is void and does not reflect reality in any way.

Also I don't remember mentioning the meat industry, which is something HUMANS consume, not AI super computers but pop off, the point still stands that AI does things faster, and more efficiently than humans. So why don't you start using AI to generate your images if you're so concerned about your CO2 footprint? By commissioning an artist you're actively supporting a person that might be eating meat or driving a car and destroying the environment in any other possible way, much more than an AI would.

Yes, AI advancements are very necessary and a quite natural progression on our road to becoming a type 1 civilization. I personally find it quite exciting to see where all of this will lead us, wether it is extinction or the ability to explore other planets, in the grand scheme of things it does not matter because none of the two of us arguing here on the internet will be here to witness either, we will infact be dead.
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I wanted to say something about this new trend called the "Ghibli Filter" that if you don't know about it, people started to generate pictures of themselves through AI so they can appear as a Ghibli character. Personally, I think it's very offensive not just to the staff and Miyazaki sensei himself, but to the art community in general. Art is the one thing that one can fully express him/herself, and to see it being replaced so easily through just a command that takes mostly a minute to generate, it's sad and disgusting. Like Miyazaki said; "It's an insult to life itself". Couldn't agree more. Artists spend most of their lives trying to entertain the audience by pouring all of their souls and creativity, sharing their unique ideas and concepts. Something that doesn't require a sacrifice, is never meant to be beautiful. I remember seeing a video about the movie "Wind Rises", in which a single certain cut that visualizes people just moving, took over a year to make. Just a single scene. That seemed insane to me. That shows how much Miyazaki appreciates the authentic method of animating by paper and pencil only to this day. I mean yeah I have used AI to generate art just from the curiosity because it was a new thing, but to share it online so that other people can see it, I don't think it's cool at all. Just put yourself in the artists' shoes. I know, it's pretty shit. Seeing your talent wither away by a soulless machine. And to make it even better, I am sure 95% of the people that have used this filter, have no clue what Ghibli is. And if you knew but still decided to hop on the trend, that's even worse. It means you didn't understand anything and you're just a sheep following each other's butt, just because the shephard doesn't know what the fuck he's doing with his life. People may say it's not that serious, it's just a silly trend, but that's the problem. Their carelessness and the idea of being united in a stupid temporary thing just because why not, may be fatal to those who truly care. And I'm sad that this time, the victim of these ignorants is the studio that appreciates life the most. I wanna know your opinions as well and sorry if this article sounded a bit pretentious (I'm an Eva fan after all)

Couldn't agree more

It is sickening to see to see AI being used in this way at the expence of artist, yes at the expence of, because AI steals their art, Ghibli (nor any other artist) doesn't see a cent in royalties when their AI filter is used, and i somehow doubt they and most artist would allow AI to do so even with a paycheck

There needs to be a strong copyright law in place for the use of generative AI, for f***s sake, people get copyright strikes for using tiny clips of movies/music on youtube, but they can get away scot-free posting their AI "art" that is literaly plagerized from another artist??
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I don't think Miyazaki said that, though. The gif and memes I see thrown around is from a documentary, where some animators created some very graphic (I think it was zombie) animation for him to watch with CGI. If you're in the states the documentary was part of the HBO package of Ghibli shows.
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