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Dec 2, 7:55 PM
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Does this pick up at any point in the series? Ive watched 12 epsiodes of s1 and while i dont hate it im not loving it either. The be the background character trope and the almost episodic nature of the show are growing a bit old for me. Theres loosely a plot but not enough of one to keep me invested but i feel like theres more. These first 12 episodes have felt like a super slow build up for the actual story to start so im just wondering if this series does something similar to steins gate where it gets crazy good partway through or if what ive seen is what i get. Ill finish season 1 regardless but i want to know if i should bother with season 2
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Dec 2, 8:06 PM
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Season 1 is better than season 2 so not a great sign if you don’t like it.
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TokeiSenpai said:
Season 1 is better than season 2 so not a great sign if you don’t like it.

gotcha. ill take that into consideration. sad though 😔 ive heard such great things about this show for so long
Dec 2, 8:18 PM
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the series isn't ment for serious story telling it's like konosuba it's made for fun.
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I'm currently rewatching it and it's hilarious unlike first watch. It gets really intense at the end of the first season which caused the drastic jump of the rating. You should continue watching it.
Dec 2, 8:31 PM
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xXGoreGrinderXx said:
Does this pick up at any point in the series? Ive watched 12 epsiodes of s1 and while i dont hate it im not loving it either. The be the background character trope and the almost episodic nature of the show are growing a bit old for me. Theres loosely a plot but not enough of one to keep me invested but i feel like theres more. These first 12 episodes have felt like a super slow build up for the actual story to start so im just wondering if this series does something similar to steins gate where it gets crazy good partway through or if what ive seen is what i get. Ill finish season 1 regardless but i want to know if i should bother with season 2

You won't find plot if you don't look for it, there are so many spoiler in first episode for the rest of the series even the stuff that hasn't been adopted yet.
But it's so cleverly hidden that it seems like there is no plot.
It's like a puzzle all you'll see are pieces and you won't see the come together until you Realize that you're meant to solve it.

And if you don't care for spoilers, just let me know, I'll show you every thing you missed.

A little prelude:
"the company gamma opened was mentioned even before he reincarnated."

"At the main hall of the company is a statu of shadow and the seven shades."
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GrimAtrament said:
the series isn't ment for serious story telling it's like konosuba it's made for fun.

ive gathered that for the most part but i still felt a gnawing inclination that more might be in store. i wasnt big in konosuba either unfortunately
Dec 2, 8:34 PM
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Yatagarasu20 said:
I'm currently rewatching it and it's hilarious unlike first watch. It gets really intense at the end of the first season which caused the drastic jump of the rating. You should continue watching it.

I'll definitely finish season 1 and see how i feel at the end and based on what other say here decide if i should try s2
Dec 2, 8:36 PM
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Pendragon572 said:
xXGoreGrinderXx said:
Does this pick up at any point in the series? Ive watched 12 epsiodes of s1 and while i dont hate it im not loving it either. The be the background character trope and the almost episodic nature of the show are growing a bit old for me. Theres loosely a plot but not enough of one to keep me invested but i feel like theres more. These first 12 episodes have felt like a super slow build up for the actual story to start so im just wondering if this series does something similar to steins gate where it gets crazy good partway through or if what ive seen is what i get. Ill finish season 1 regardless but i want to know if i should bother with season 2

You won't find plot if you don't look for it, there are so many spoiler in first episode for the rest of the series even the stuff that hasn't been adopted yet.
But it's so cleverly hidden that it seems like there is no plot.
It's like a puzzle all you'll see are pieces and you won't see the come together until you Realize that you're meant to solve it.

And if you don't care for spoilers, just let me know, I'll show you every thing you missed.

A little prelude:
"the company gamma opened was mentioned even before he reincarnated."

"At the main hall of the company is a statu of shadow and the seven shades."

see ive felt like there was more to this show than meets the eye but im hoping they throw the subtleties aside eventually and bring everything together. its felt very similar to steins gate in that regard
Dec 2, 8:47 PM
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The thing is,
It's the kind of story where everyone will try to make a plans but will be stopped by shadow.
Coz whatever he wants.
The plot will make sure that he's always in the
Right.
It doesn't matter what he does a problem will arise wherever he is just so he could solve it.

And season 2 is where a few things will be explained even the part how he got from his world to this one.
Just don't get your hopes up. The focus of the show is shadow the plot will always remain in the shadows.
Dec 2, 9:03 PM
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The thing is,
It's the kind of story where everyone will try to make a plans but will be stopped by shadow.
Coz whatever he wants.
The plot will make sure that he's always in the
Right.
It doesn't matter what he does a problem will arise wherever he is just so he could solve it.

And season 2 is where a few things will be explained even the part how he got from his world to this one.
Just don't get your hopes up. The focus of the show is shadow the plot will always remain in the shadows.
@Pendragon572 hmmmm i see. It sounds like it probably just isnt for me but ill finish s1 at least
Dec 2, 9:06 PM
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xXGoreGrinderXx said:
@Pendragon572 hmmmm i see. It sounds like it probably just isnt for me but ill finish s1 at least

Well, I hope you find some enjoyable anime in the future.
Dec 2, 9:26 PM
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Makes sense. It's not for you, it's as simple as that.
For me, I enjoyed it. Like A LOT.
imo, s2 was better than s1 even though I loved and enjoyed both.
The plot is not that serious and it favors Cid a lot so if you ain't into that, you won't for s2 and the upcoming movie.
Dec 2, 9:40 PM
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xXGoreGrinderXx said:
Does this pick up at any point in the series? Ive watched 12 epsiodes of s1 and while i dont hate it im not loving it either. The be the background character trope and the almost episodic nature of the show are growing a bit old for me. Theres loosely a plot but not enough of one to keep me invested but i feel like theres more. These first 12 episodes have felt like a super slow build up for the actual story to start so im just wondering if this series does something similar to steins gate where it gets crazy good partway through or if what ive seen is what i get. Ill finish season 1 regardless but i want to know if i should bother with season 2

I feel you I thought the same thing it gets better towards the end of season 1 and then season 2 same thing ending is tuff, but in my opinion this anime failed to live up to its potential. I wish it had a more serious plot bc the story, characters, setting is very good but the plot is supposed to be fun and kinda comedic, and don’t even get me started on how the MC is so oblivious, ignorant to what the girls are doing on the side that shit pissed me off.
Dec 2, 9:49 PM
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xXGoreGrinderXx said:
@Pendragon572 hmmmm i see. It sounds like it probably just isnt for me but ill finish s1 at least

Well, I hope you find some enjoyable anime in the future.
@Pendragon572 thank you! Ive been getting into gundam from the 80s and 90s and have been enjoying that quite a bit lately
Dec 2, 9:50 PM
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Makes sense. It's not for you, it's as simple as that.
For me, I enjoyed it. Like A LOT.
imo, s2 was better than s1 even though I loved and enjoyed both.
The plot is not that serious and it favors Cid a lot so if you ain't into that, you won't for s2 and the upcoming movie.
@CheliosX i gotcha. Good to know. Thank you ^_^
Dec 2, 9:53 PM
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xXGoreGrinderXx said:
Does this pick up at any point in the series? Ive watched 12 epsiodes of s1 and while i dont hate it im not loving it either. The be the background character trope and the almost episodic nature of the show are growing a bit old for me. Theres loosely a plot but not enough of one to keep me invested but i feel like theres more. These first 12 episodes have felt like a super slow build up for the actual story to start so im just wondering if this series does something similar to steins gate where it gets crazy good partway through or if what ive seen is what i get. Ill finish season 1 regardless but i want to know if i should bother with season 2

I feel you I thought the same thing it gets better towards the end of season 1 and then season 2 same thing ending is tuff, but in my opinion this anime failed to live up to its potential. I wish it had a more serious plot bc the story, characters, setting is very good but the plot is supposed to be fun and kinda comedic, and don’t even get me started on how the MC is so oblivious, ignorant to what the girls are doing on the side that shit pissed me off.
@Zxstu i wish the tone and pace were set better earlier on because i was expecting a really intricate dark future diary kind of thing but then it was an op isekai which i usually enjoy but this one is a bit too cringey for me.
Dec 2, 9:53 PM
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xXGoreGrinderXx said:
@CheliosX i gotcha. Good to know. Thank you ^_^

No worries. You're not the only one I encountered that didn't end up liking The Eminence in Shadow.
Dec 2, 10:05 PM
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as for me ,,i really loved this show for me it's 10/10 ,, season 1 is great and season 2 is kind of less compared to season 1...i suggest you to complete season 1,,it's really great
Dec 2, 10:17 PM
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seed getting more op every season tho imo s1 is not peak but better than s2
Dec 2, 10:45 PM
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No it doesn’t, in fact it gets worse. But then again I’m biased, I’m one of the people who really dislikes this show.
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I’ll be honest, I hated this anime, and still do

It definitely wasn’t as good as people claimed

It was not a parody of isekai anime, if anything it was for the “isekai haters”

The MC was awful, the sides characters were better
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Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Dec 2, 11:45 PM
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i’m in love with it by ep5 “i am atomic”

guess it’s not for everyone though
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xXGoreGrinderXx said:
@Pendragon572 thank you! Ive been getting into gundam from the 80s and 90s and have been enjoying that quite a bit lately

Enjoy what makes you happy.
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No, overhyped af but still is quite good
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I am a LN reader. The plot remains the same, about a stupid chunni having fun, completely unaware that there 2 organisations fighting each other.

I don’t compare this to Steins;Gate due to it being completely different genre.
There is no sudden change in tone like Steins;Gate episode 12 or Gundam ZZ episode 20.
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It’s pretty consistent throughout the entire series (including S2).
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The waifus are the only thing that kept this series interesting for me, Cid's obsession with being a background character was annoying
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The entire series is MC is oblivious and his Shadow Garden organization is the only thing that makes any of his "plans" work.

It was blatantly obvious to me when he threw the knife at the map and said his sister was there. Dude had no clue. From then on it was just happen to be there at the right time when x, y, and z all just happen to fall in place based of his vague advice, notes, stories, etc.

This one is the epitome of MC just gets lucky things always work out.
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I don't know what you are talking about, this show is one of the most exciting and hilarious anime I have ever seen. the way it pokes fun at not only the isekai genre but anime as a whole is perfect. the beautiful animation also adds to the enjoyment of this show for me, I can't see how anybody can find this show boring. but to answer your question yes this show gets much more exciting towards the end after the introduction of mundane mann
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Watch Rezero or Mushoku Tensei for a better plot since the eminence in shadow doesn’t have much world building and is more of just something you watch for fun instead of the plot
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xXGoreGrinderXx said:
Does this pick up at any point in the series? Ive watched 12 epsiodes of s1 and while i dont hate it im not loving it either. The be the background character trope and the almost episodic nature of the show are growing a bit old for me. Theres loosely a plot but not enough of one to keep me invested but i feel like theres more. These first 12 episodes have felt like a super slow build up for the actual story to start so im just wondering if this series does something similar to steins gate where it gets crazy good partway through or if what ive seen is what i get. Ill finish season 1 regardless but i want to know if i should bother with season 2

I dunno what to answer man, I just watched it to waste my time and it had me laughing many times so I’m not complaining. Anyway I think that season 2 was actually really cool, idk tho if it was because of the fact that I waited four months between season 1 and 2.
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Yatagarasu20 said:
I'm currently rewatching it and it's hilarious unlike first watch. It gets really intense at the end of the first season which caused the drastic jump of the rating. You should continue watching it.

I enjoyed my first watch through. However, I agree that the second time through is even better, and you get to see a lot of hints and Easter eggs for what's to come.
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I never read the novel, and i must say so far i enjoy the manga more than the anime.

Something about the anime made it like its just a funny silly story with something happened in the background.
I feels off with the colour theme, music, and lines delivery in the anime when they change tone into the serious part.
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I'ma be honest. I was kind of feeling the same way, but the lore drop and twist in the last episode of season 2 actually made me feel invested in what comes next, and now I'm hyped for the movie lol
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xXGoreGrinderXx said:
@CheliosX i gotcha. Good to know. Thank you ^_^

No worries. You're not the only one I encountered that didn't end up liking The Eminence in Shadow.
@CheliosX i really thought i would. Id heard great things and went into it fully expecting to enjoy it. Its not bad though. A 6.5 for me probably which is solid in my books
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as for me ,,i really loved this show for me it's 10/10 ,, season 1 is great and season 2 is kind of less compared to season 1...i suggest you to complete season 1,,it's really great
@_otaku_man00 ill finish it for sure but i cant see it placing above a 6/10 for me personally
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No it doesn’t, in fact it gets worse. But then again I’m biased, I’m one of the people who really dislikes this show.
@ajw215799 its not for me either maybe im just getting old. Everyone ive heard rave about it were atleast a decade younger than me
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Reply to ejleon
I’ll be honest, I hated this anime, and still do

It definitely wasn’t as good as people claimed

It was not a parody of isekai anime, if anything it was for the “isekai haters”

The MC was awful, the sides characters were better
@ejleon i dont hate it but i definitely agree completely with everything you said . Dont like the mc at all theres too many side characters to keep track of and so many if them look identical and to me its just been another isekai. Which is fine i like the genre as a whole but this ones not doing it for me
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i’m in love with it by ep5 “i am atomic”

guess it’s not for everyone though
@a0i-kun ive seen far too many fantasy animes and isekais with op attacks. It was kinda neat but didnt stand out or set itself apart from everything else ive seen
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No, overhyped af but still is quite good
@Bejitto overhyped for sure but its solid. Sitting at a 6.5 for me at the moment
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I am a LN reader. The plot remains the same, about a stupid chunni having fun, completely unaware that there 2 organisations fighting each other.

I don’t compare this to Steins;Gate due to it being completely different genre.
There is no sudden change in tone like Steins;Gate episode 12 or Gundam ZZ episode 20.
@NewestPersonHere thats the info i was looking for. Thank you so much. Looks like ill have to add zz gundam to the gundam watch list
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The waifus are the only thing that kept this series interesting for me, Cid's obsession with being a background character was annoying
@LordJehZeus i agree about cids character for sure. And waifus aren't something i look for. I dont mind find service at all but i dont search it out either
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The entire series is MC is oblivious and his Shadow Garden organization is the only thing that makes any of his "plans" work.

It was blatantly obvious to me when he threw the knife at the map and said his sister was there. Dude had no clue. From then on it was just happen to be there at the right time when x, y, and z all just happen to fall in place based of his vague advice, notes, stories, etc.

This one is the epitome of MC just gets lucky things always work out.
@DiznyOrdiz gotcha. It all makes sense now looking back in retrospect i guess i was just hoping they were going to make it into something more than that
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I don't know what you are talking about, this show is one of the most exciting and hilarious anime I have ever seen. the way it pokes fun at not only the isekai genre but anime as a whole is perfect. the beautiful animation also adds to the enjoyment of this show for me, I can't see how anybody can find this show boring. but to answer your question yes this show gets much more exciting towards the end after the introduction of mundane mann
@Leonzanimelist well to be fair ive seen double the amount of anime you have and tropes and things just get old. Ive only found 1 thing funny in the 16 episodes ive watched and i dont find any excitement in a gag anime with gag characters. Its just not my cup of tea. The animation is solid but doesnt stand above most anime. Its just another isekai
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Watch Rezero or Mushoku Tensei for a better plot since the eminence in shadow doesn’t have much world building and is more of just something you watch for fun instead of the plot
@riof14 thats good to know. I hated rezero but i really enjoy mushoku tensei and need to hop on s2
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xXGoreGrinderXx said:
Does this pick up at any point in the series? Ive watched 12 epsiodes of s1 and while i dont hate it im not loving it either. The be the background character trope and the almost episodic nature of the show are growing a bit old for me. Theres loosely a plot but not enough of one to keep me invested but i feel like theres more. These first 12 episodes have felt like a super slow build up for the actual story to start so im just wondering if this series does something similar to steins gate where it gets crazy good partway through or if what ive seen is what i get. Ill finish season 1 regardless but i want to know if i should bother with season 2

I dunno what to answer man, I just watched it to waste my time and it had me laughing many times so I’m not complaining. Anyway I think that season 2 was actually really cool, idk tho if it was because of the fact that I waited four months between season 1 and 2.
@WeebQira ive laughed once but in 16 episodes i wouldnt call it comedic. At least not for me anyway. Its just not my cup of tea i spose
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I never read the novel, and i must say so far i enjoy the manga more than the anime.

Something about the anime made it like its just a funny silly story with something happened in the background.
I feels off with the colour theme, music, and lines delivery in the anime when they change tone into the serious part.
@ilusatus that's exactly how ive felt about it as well. Glad to know im not the only one
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I'ma be honest. I was kind of feeling the same way, but the lore drop and twist in the last episode of season 2 actually made me feel invested in what comes next, and now I'm hyped for the movie lol
@ButterworthBoys hmmmmmmmmmm that almost makes me want to watch season 2. I might have to dig a little more
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xXGoreGrinderXx said:
@CheliosX i really thought i would. Id heard great things and went into it fully expecting to enjoy it. Its not bad though. A 6.5 for me probably which is solid in my books

It's fine. I get. I personally have the anime a 9.5 so I just rounded it up to 10. That's how much I enjoyed it.
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