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May 9, 6:35 AM
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I rewatched the whole thing before s4, but now I have forgotten some details again.

So a few questions:

1. What is the goal of the white haired guy and girl? like I know they're the baddies and all, and I remember a plot point where they captured Tooka which made her alter ego or something show up? I can't remember. (answered)

2. I remember nothing about what's up with Eliot and Karen. I remember at one point they showed up and it was surprising, but like I literally have completely forgotten their deal. (answered)

3. So, what exactly is Nibelcole? I know their role, but I forgot how they were made. In episode 3 Nia said that they had something to do with the book. but I can't remember what. (answered)

4. Oh also, forgot to add this one earlier. who is the girl's who's memory was manipulated? I don't remember her. (answered)
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APolygons2 said:
I rewatched the whole thing before s4, but now I have forgotten some details again.

So a few questions:

1. What is the goal of the white haired guy and girl? like I know they're the baddies and all, and I remember a plot point where they captured Tooka which made her alter ego or something show up? I can't remember.

2. I remember nothing about what's up with Eliot and Karen. I remember at one point they showed up and it was surprising, but like I literally have completely forgotten their deal.

3. So, what exactly is Nibelcole? I know their role, but I forgot how they were made. In episode 3 Nia said that they had something to do with the book. but I can't remember what.

I don't know about your first ans second questions but I can answer the third.

Basically the demon king(the book) is able to record read and the past present and I little bit of future.
The nebalcole are literally it's pages something like a sprite made by writing in the demon king.

And thats probably why they call him father, since he literally made them.
May 9, 7:48 AM
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1. Ike wants spirits to go into reverse form in order to extract the crystals so he can absorb that power and awaken power of their Demon kings.

2. Eliot wants to save the world without having to kill spirits.

3. Rasiel is changed into Demon king whose power is to create those monsters and Nibelcole, a demispirit.
May 9, 8:01 AM
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1. Ike wants spirits to go into reverse form in order to extract the crystals so he can absorb that power and awaken power of their Demon kings.

2. Eliot wants to save the world without having to kill spirits.

3. Rasiel is changed into Demon king whose power is to create those monsters and Nibelcole, a demispirit.
Yatagarasu18 said:
2. Eliot wants to save the world without having to kill spirits.


But who is he? Is he just some random guy who wants this? that can't be it

Also why were he and karen on the battle field while looking younger maybe?

I'm on episode 3 and they just showed up.
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May 9, 8:26 AM
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They'll most likely go into details a bit more the next episode.. but if you don't mind waiting until then:

Ike, Eliott and Ellen were among the last actual magic users in the world, they grew up in a small village. Humans came and destroyed their village. They swore revenge.

30 years ago they created a device that let them gather all the mana in the area, and thus Mio was created, also this event blew up part of the Asian continent. Ike and an easy impressionable Ellen decide to use Mio's powers to get revenge on mankind. Eliott understands that is wrong and it would make them just as evil as the ones who destroyed their village so he creates Ratatoskr to save the Spirits. Karen is Ellen's sister and she decides to follow Eliott because she wants the D.

The girl with manipulated memory is Artemisia Ashcroft, she had some unique brainwaves they used for creating those Bandersnatch drone things. DEM used her, simple as that.

The LN has more details about the whole thing, but not by much.. a lot of character are simply added, for convenience
May 9, 8:27 AM
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APolygons2 said:
Yatagarasu18 said:
2. Eliot wants to save the world without having to kill spirits.


But who is he? Is he just some random guy who wants this? that can't be it

Also why were he and karen on the battle field while looking younger maybe?

I'm on episode 3 and they just showed up.

You will see in episode 5. Do you remember in season 3 when Ellen sent a message for Eliot? When she had battle against Fraxinus, she said: "Eliot, damn Eliot. You traitor etc." Meaning they worked together before. Also Eliot made organisation Ratatosk.
May 9, 8:50 AM
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APolygons2 said:
Yatagarasu18 said:
2. Eliot wants to save the world without having to kill spirits.


But who is he? Is he just some random guy who wants this? that can't be it

Also why were he and karen on the battle field while looking younger maybe?

I'm on episode 3 and they just showed up.

You will see in episode 5. Do you remember in season 3 when Ellen sent a message for Eliot? When she had battle against Fraxinus, she said: "Eliot, damn Eliot. You traitor etc." Meaning they worked together before. Also Eliot made organisation Ratatosk.
@Yatagarasu18 Aight makes sense, thanks for the info
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May 9, 9:25 AM
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Number 4 I believe ur talking about the ast team ryouko. She and the astray were initially the antagonists before dem took over in season 2. Their memories weren't manipulated but timeline shift in season 3 made the ast forget that origami joined dem, and tohka being a spirit I believe.
May 9, 9:29 AM
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They'll most likely go into details a bit more the next episode.. but if you don't mind waiting until then:

Ike, Eliott and Ellen were among the last actual magic users in the world, they grew up in a small village. Humans came and destroyed their village. They swore revenge.

30 years ago they created a device that let them gather all the mana in the area, and thus Mio was created, also this event blew up part of the Asian continent. Ike and an easy impressionable Ellen decide to use Mio's powers to get revenge on mankind. Eliott understands that is wrong and it would make them just as evil as the ones who destroyed their village so he creates Ratatoskr to save the Spirits. Karen is Ellen's sister and she decides to follow Eliott because she wants the D.

The girl with manipulated memory is Artemisia Ashcroft, she had some unique brainwaves they used for creating those Bandersnatch drone things. DEM used her, simple as that.

The LN has more details about the whole thing, but not by much.. a lot of character are simply added, for convenience
@Marmotzel season 4 episode 4 vaguely described this. Since baldwin and Nora briefed shido and the others So I would recommend just rewatch that episode rather than read their origin online. They described how dem founded spirits and the elliot fell in love with spirit of origin. Episode 6 had Ike trying to bring them back to dem.

The light novel you dont need to read. Anime covers all important details. But you needed a sharp memory of everything that went on, particularly this season
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Number 4 I believe ur talking about the ast team ryouko. She and the astray were initially the antagonists before dem took over in season 2. Their memories weren't manipulated but timeline shift in season 3 made the ast forget that origami joined dem, and tohka being a spirit I believe.
@SpiderMiles3523 No no, the blond haired girl, her memory was unlocked in episode 3, and the characters kept saying she was brain washed or had her memories altered.
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@SpiderMiles3523 No no, the blond haired girl, her memory was unlocked in episode 3, and the characters kept saying she was brain washed or had her memories altered.
@APolygons2 Basically,origami and Mana said that she got brain washed because she used to hate what Dem is doing.She used to be apart of the British equivalent of AST which is the SSS.
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@APolygons2 Basically,origami and Mana said that she got brain washed because she used to hate what Dem is doing.She used to be apart of the British equivalent of AST which is the SSS.
@NickReyes oh ok so she isn't a character we have seen before she got brain washed.

Aight makes sense, thank you.
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@NickReyes oh ok so she isn't a character we have seen before she got brain washed.

Aight makes sense, thank you.
@APolygons2 Yep but I don't really think that you should focus to much on her since she's the only character that won't get too much development.Even in the official ln the author did not delve too much on her.She does have a sad backstory but it's in a spinoff called date ast (date a strike)which is about all the AST.

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