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I have not yet watched anything past the entirety of the first season, but I can't lie, I was
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Jul 1, 2022 4:38 PM
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One can only dream, that If spinoof will be adapted one day.

Jul 1, 2022 4:46 PM
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Ur words came straight out from your heart right there, ya i think the same too, REM IS LOVE ❤️🛐
Jul 1, 2022 4:50 PM
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you probably need to re-watch this. rem is garbage
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Jul 1, 2022 5:09 PM
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Well yeah, most people were. Though, its a shame that the rejection gets the spotlight. That scene, that whole episode was amazing, but most people focus on the rejection + guy above me is wrong
Jul 1, 2022 5:14 PM
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Thing about Rem is the author has no idea what to do with her after that scene. All of the traits that made her unique disappear from that point onward.
Jul 1, 2022 5:26 PM
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you can always read the ‘sloth if’ story if you want to see what happens if he accepted her confession. or watch a youtube summary. it’s an official what if story made by the author pretty good imo
Jul 1, 2022 5:26 PM
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To be fair, she tried to murder him. Several times. And even succeeded once, if I’m remembering correctly.

I think Rem is best girl by far, but I really don’t blame Subaru for choosing Emilia instead.
Jul 1, 2022 5:46 PM
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Nah, Emilia is better. Rem just threw herself at him
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Jul 1, 2022 6:07 PM

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~spoilers for all of anime re: zero incl. s2~

honestly all of the good parts of this show involved Rem, whereas Emilia is the definition of the "unattainable desire" who is only appealing to subaru because of superficial aesthetic reasons + cos she has boundaries. i think they ruined the show by


in general i was pretty annoyed they fucked this show up so badly tbh. it feels worse when a show has a lot of potential and fails due to terrible writing decisions rather than one with little potential in the first place
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Jul 1, 2022 6:08 PM

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official_brown said:
Nah, Emilia is better. Rem just threw herself at him

emilia is hardly a character. at least subaru and rem went through things together. emilia is literally just "wow look at me i have boundaries, that's the most attractive thing to a guy without them apparently"
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3looming said:
official_brown said:
Nah, Emilia is better. Rem just threw herself at him

emilia is hardly a character. at least subaru and rem went through things together. emilia is literally just "wow look at me i have boundaries, that's the most attractive thing to a guy without them apparently"


Well second season she does. But cool.
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Jul 1, 2022 6:17 PM
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Rem is too good for that loser.
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official_brown said:

Well second season she does. But cool.

yeah agree to disagree i guess. i've seen her movie, seen s2, neither won me over to the idea that she was written with any depth beyond "i reacted like a generic normal person would normally to my abnormal backstory" - which isn't very realistic, ironically. heavy backstories usually lead people to develop in ways unique to themselves - persevering through something deeply painful requires you to choose the things you'll hang on to - and this is one of the most basic ways of showing/developing character. but imo emilia reacts in some pretty bland/generic ways which don't really give us any reason to think she has depth as a person - to me she looks just like a mistaken caricature of one. for an odd analogy, it feels like someone describing what LSD is like without having taken it themselves - if you haven't actually been through very heavy things that changed you, you don't know how to write that in your characters.

anyways, that's just my two cents.
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3looming said:
~spoilers for all of anime re: zero incl. s2~

honestly all of the good parts of this show involved Rem, whereas Emilia is the definition of the "unattainable desire" who is only appealing to subaru because of superficial aesthetic reasons + cos she has boundaries. i think they ruined the show by


in general i was pretty annoyed they fucked this show up so badly tbh. it feels worse when a show has a lot of potential and fails due to terrible writing decisions rather than one with little potential in the first place

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Schlockendale said:
I have not yet watched anything past the entirety of the first season, but I can't lie, I was

Well in the Web novel, they agreed to have Rem as his Subaru's second wife if Emilia agrees and Subaru even says "I will make you both mine" in the dragon carriage (last ep of s1).
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Average simp when thier Waifu doesn't get attention

rem isn't even my waifu lmao. i think it's just bad for practical purposes to randomly dispose of characters who are integral to your show.
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Jul 1, 2022 11:01 PM

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Of course, its not like Rem rejected Subaru's offer to run away at all. /s

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Thing about Rem is the author has no idea what to do with her after that scene. All of the traits that made her unique disappear from that point onward.

Firstly, that's untrue. Secondly, source?

3looming said:
~spoilers for all of anime re: zero incl. s2~

honestly all of the good parts of this show involved Rem, whereas Emilia is the definition of the "unattainable desire" who is only appealing to subaru because of superficial aesthetic reasons + cos she has boundaries.

That's incorrect since the best parts of the show are dependent on Subaru rather than any of the girls. Next, the reasons you stated for him falling in love with Emilia are incredibly dumb. In reality, he didn't even fall in love with her at the beginning and actually latched on to her, like placing her on an altar, of sorts. Its unhealthy, yes, but the show does address this. Its only in S2 does he come to genuinely love her after recognizing her as a person

think they ruined the show by sidelining Rem as a character. she was the heart behind subaru's battle with sloth, and the rest of the show was boring and predictable after she was forced into the background.

Not only did they NOT ruin the show by doing that, they actually made it better since Rem's presence might have stagnated Subaru's growth.

in general i was pretty annoyed they fucked this show up so badly tbh

I'm so glad the suggestions of other people are not taken into account. This show would have had terrible writing if your suggestions were to be hypothetically incorporated into the show.
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Schlockendale said:
I have not yet watched anything past the entirety of the first season, but I can't lie, I was

Bro rem killed him a dozen times, copium.
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Rem is a future wife with a lot of skills.

Meanwhile Emilia is just a dumbass woman that only making cute looking expressions.

Guess who Subaru choosed!
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Mando727 said:
To be fair, she tried to murder him. Several times. And even succeeded once, if I’m remembering correctly.

I think Rem is best girl by far, but I really don’t blame Subaru for choosing Emilia instead.

My words exactly. She tried to kill him several times. Any sane person would be afraid to death of her. Also that doesn't mean she is a bad character, she is definitely the best girl at least for me.
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the romance between subaru and rem was much more intense than that between emilia and him and in addition I really liked rem (strong, serious, caring) so personally I would have loved it to be her who ended up with subaru but too bad she lost consciousness at the end of season 2 and no one knows if she will appear in the next season😭💔💔 and i don't like Emilia that much ♥️
Jul 2, 2022 5:59 AM
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He didn't reject her, just rejected that she could be the only person he could love.

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However Subaru is basically Greed incarnate, all of them have the same priority to him. which plays into Rem seemingly being OK with polygamy with Emilia as long as she is still a priority for him. He would just as easily go to the ends of the earth for Rem than he would Emilia.
Jul 2, 2022 6:43 AM

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all these mfs dissing Emilia are gonna be silent if we ever get a arc6 adaptation
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Jul 2, 2022 6:54 AM

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Flugel_047 said:
all these mfs dissing Emilia are gonna be silent if we ever get a arc6 adaptation
I mean you can't really blame them, she was ass, rem was better in s1 but I started to like her in S2 plus the best girl is sleeping or in coma
Jul 2, 2022 7:07 AM

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27thEiffel said:
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all these mfs dissing Emilia are gonna be silent if we ever get a arc6 adaptation
I mean you can't really blame them, she was ass, rem was better in s1 but I started to like her in S2 plus the best girl is sleeping or in coma

Lol best girl. Beatrice is best girl 🗿
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Jul 2, 2022 7:25 AM
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Piromysl said:
One can only dream, that If spinoof will be adapted one day.

It’d make a great fuckin movie, but god would that ending be depressing if they stayed true to the source.
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all these mfs dissing Emilia are gonna be silent if we ever get a arc6 adaptation

Arc 4 shut a majority of them up already, Arc 5 will turn them into clowns and Arc 6 would make them a circus.




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RioFS said:

Arc 4 shut a majority of them up already, Arc 5 will turn them into clowns and Arc 6 would make them a circus.

just because you can actually develop character later on doesn't mean she's actually a good character yet. she totally might be already in the manga but for re:zero i'm anime-only, so ofc i only judge based on the anime lol
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Arc 4 shut a majority of them up already, Arc 5 will turn them into clowns and Arc 6 would make them a circus.

just because you can actually develop character later on doesn't mean she's actually a good character yet. she totally might be already in the manga but for re:zero i'm anime-only, so ofc i only judge based on the anime lol

1) Its a LN adaptation, not a manga adaptation.

2) She's an excellent and well-written character even in the anime(Arc 4 has already been adapted). It just so happens that she's even better in the LN.




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When i first watched when only season 1 was out i liked rem more but after years went by i rewatched season 1 then 2 ovas and such emilia stole my heart and I understood why subaru chooses her
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JeXxTaR said:
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Rem is a future wife with a lot of skills.

Meanwhile Emilia is just a dumbass woman that only making cute looking expressions.

Guess who Subaru choosed!


Subaru chose the girl who didn't kill him


Cmon bruv, Subaru can literally create another 100 million alternative timeline that rem won't kill him. You are thinking way too basic.
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JeXxTaR said:
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Cmon bruv, Subaru can literally create another 100 million alternative timeline that rem won't kill him. You are thinking way too basic.


He doesn't need to do that if he stays with Emilia
Didn't Emilia's pet kill him once?


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Didn't Emilia's pet kill him once?


And? That's not Emilia's fault
But it's a package deal. Can't be with Emilia and not be with the pet too.


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Flugel_047 said:
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I mean you can't really blame them, she was ass, rem was better in s1 but I started to like her in S2 plus the best girl is sleeping or in coma

Lol best girl. Beatrice is best girl 🗿


Now THIS I can get with, lol.

Yeah, I definitely get the "but she tried to murder / murdered him in other timelines" thing, it's just her general characterization and relationship buildup with Subaru is so much stronger than that of Emilia's for me. For someone so central to the plot as Emilia, she feels a little underwritten (I suppose for mystery's sake?) and borderline underused in the first season. Her personality is also kind of stock "good-hearted yet strong-willed" princess-type, IMO. Am I good to assume this is going to change with S2, though?
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But it's a package deal. Can't be with Emilia and not be with the pet too.


If you watched season 2 you should know that's not true.

Also Emilia would hate Puck if she knew that he killed Subaru
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Lol best girl. Beatrice is best girl 🗿


Now THIS I can get with, lol.

Yeah, I definitely get the "but she tried to murder / murdered him in other timelines" thing, it's just her general characterization and relationship buildup with Subaru is so much stronger than that of Emilia's for me. For someone so central to the plot as Emilia, she feels a little underwritten (I suppose for mystery's sake?) and borderline underused in the first season. Her personality is also kind of stock "good-hearted yet strong-willed" princess-type, IMO. Am I good to assume this is going to change with S2, though?
Author handles her character in a completely different way than rest of the cast. Her character grows at a very slow pace with every arc thats what's beautiful about it. By the time we reach arc6 it's on a whole different level. You'll start noticing this once we get a s3 if that ever happens 😭
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Ur words came straight out from your heart right there, ya i think the same too, REM IS LOVE ❤️🛐

REM is love, rem is live
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Nah Rem sucks, I'd rather Subaru end up with a more realistic girl aka Emilia
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fuck subaru, if that episode in which rem proposed to subaru happened to me, i literally forget who emilia is
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Nah Rem sucks, I'd rather Subaru end up with a more realistic girl aka Emilia

she is not realistic and same to u stfu
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Schlockendale said:
I have not yet watched anything past the entirety of the first season, but I can't lie, I was

I felt the same 😔 rem is definitely the girl everyone will want as a partner
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i was disappointed as well
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RioFS said:
Flugel_047 said:
all these mfs dissing Emilia are gonna be silent if we ever get a arc6 adaptation

Arc 4 shut a majority of them up already, Arc 5 will turn them into clowns and Arc 6 would make them a circus.


Lmao my exact words... hope they announce it already in this July expo...
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Mando727 said:
To be fair, she tried to murder him. Several times. And even succeeded once, if I’m remembering correctly.

I think Rem is best girl by far, but I really don’t blame Subaru for choosing Emilia instead.

I don’t think that the fact that Rem tried to kill him really influenced his decision though, it was just that he “liked Emilia more”. Which is what pissed off so many people
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I have not yet watched anything past the entirety of the first season, but I can't lie, I was

Since you've seen the first season, I wouldn't consider this a spoiler, since it was material covered in arc 3, but unfortunately wasn't adapted in the anime.

In the light novel, Subaru tells Rem under the flugel tree that he loves Emilia (repeating himself from that scene), but continues to say that she (Rem) "makes his heart flutter". Emilia is number one in Subaru's heart, but Rem is number 2. And a close number 2 at that (I think this is due to his feelings for Emilia when she saved his life in the alley on the first episode meaning a lot to him). In response, Rem tells him that she's okay with being his second wife. I could quote the LN directly but I think it's unnecessary.

I'm short, don't be too disappointed about Rem losing out, because she hasn't entirely lost. She holds a place in Subaru's heart that he labels as number 2, but in reality she basically rivals Emilia.
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Mando727 said:
To be fair, she tried to murder him. Several times. And even succeeded once, if I’m remembering correctly.

I think Rem is best girl by far, but I really don’t blame Subaru for choosing Emilia instead.

95% sure Subaru doesn't hold this against her, he understands that she was just doing her job.
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~spoilers for all of anime re: zero incl. s2~

honestly all of the good parts of this show involved Rem, whereas Emilia is the definition of the "unattainable desire" who is only appealing to subaru because of superficial aesthetic reasons + cos she has boundaries. i think they ruined the show by


in general i was pretty annoyed they fucked this show up so badly tbh. it feels worse when a show has a lot of potential and fails due to terrible writing decisions rather than one with little potential in the first place

I disagree. The "loss" of Rem keeps Subaru going. It drive him to keep fighting, in hopes of reawakening her. It sucks from the reader/watcher's perspective if they like Rem, but it's not bad writing.
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I have not yet watched anything past the entirety of the first season, but I can't lie, I was

Bro rem killed him a dozen times, copium.

Pretty sure he doesn't hold that against her
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He didn't reject her, just rejected that she could be the only person he could love.

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However Subaru is basically Greed incarnate, all of them have the same priority to him. which plays into Rem seemingly being OK with polygamy with Emilia as long as she is still a priority for him. He would just as easily go to the ends of the earth for Rem than he would Emilia.

this right here is the most accurate info here. Thanks for putting it into words so I don't have to
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