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May 21, 2022 5:10 AM
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i have completed S;G 0
ques1. what u guys were talking about when u say they gonna show milkyway or something?

ques2. plot holes- the whole story was based on beta worldline then how hashida(daru) know knowledge of building time leap machine and he even said that around 15th or 16th episode that "okabe has scraped off both phone micro wave and time leap machine " since okabe(of alpha WL) used dmail to undo first dmail that make him jump to beta world line and it means in beta WL they not even build the phone microwave which sends d-mail so there's no way they can build time leap machine also they would need kurisu to build it and in beta worldline no one knows it .....and daru was talking like okabe had destroyed both devices in front of him when it's not possible for both devices to even exist in first place in beta world line and i dont think daru can talk and build things just because okabe have told about his worldline travel..

ques 3. some one was saying that different worldline exists but parallel world line didnt but in the last episode we saw that the okabe of beta world line sends dmail to his past self who actually succeed in entering S;G world line and future okabe goes to find mayuri and suzuha ...so since saving kruisu by past self which lead to different worldline and saving mayuri by current world line okabe both being in different line simultaneously proves that parallel WL exists.....

ques4. so what happends after okabe save mayuri and suzuha since they were able to motivate past okabe to save kurisu but they still are in beta WL ..what happened to them

QUES5. important one
some VN readers were talking about NAE(daughter of mr. Braun) using time leap machine to go in past i.e. in her Loli Body and killing Mayuri to take revenge
(i.e in OG S;G alpha World line where Mr. braun kills himself)
so is that true
i remember watching steins;gate movie lord deja vu in which okabe having deva vu of other world lines and in one of them there was a seen showned in which NAE Killed MAYURI . …but movie was non canon and VN came in 2018 so both are same?

my english is not good i hope u got what i wanted to ask.
NaughtySempaiMay 21, 2022 8:39 AM
May 21, 2022 5:38 AM
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for question three don't see it from our perspective as 3D being,see it as 4D when past present and future is already there,so changing the past doesn't change the actual future of that world line,but after past okabe reach the steins gate world line,that world line is only a possibility
May 21, 2022 6:19 AM
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NaughtySempai said:
i have completed S;G 0
ques1. what u guys were talking about when u say they gonna show milkyway or something?

ques2. plot holes- the whole story was based on beta worldline then how hashida(daru) know knowledge of building time leap machine and he even said that around 15th or 16th episode that "okabe has scraped off both phone micro wave and time leap machine " since okabe(of alpha WL) used dmail to undo first dmail that make him jump to beta world line and it means in beta WL they not even build the phone microwave which sends d-mail so there's no way they can build time leap machine also they would need kurisu to build it and in beta worldline no one knows it .....and daru was talking like okabe had destroyed both devices in front of him when it's not possible for both devices to even exist in first place in beta world line and i dont think daru can talk and build things just because okabe have told about his worldline travel..

ques 3. some one was saying that different worldline exists but parallel world line didnt but in the last episode we saw that the okabe of beta world line sends dmail to his past self who actually succeed in entering S;G world line and future okabe goes to find mayuri and suzuha ...so since saving kruisu by past self which lead to different worldline and saving mayuri by current world line okabe both being in different line simultaneously proves that parallel WL exists.....

ques4. so what happends after okabe save mayuri and suzuha since they were able to motivate past okabe to save kurisu but they still are in beta WL ..what happened to them

QUES5. important one
some VN readers were talking about NAE(daughter of mr. Braun) using time leap machine to go in past i.e. in her Loli Body and killing Mayuri to take revenge
(i.e in OG S;G alpha World line where Mr. braun kills himself)
so is that true
i remember watching steins;gate moive lord deja vu in which okabe having deva vu of other world lines and in one of them there was a seen showned in which NAE Killed MAYURI . …but movie was non canon and VN came in 2018 so both are same?

my english is not good i hope u got what i wanted to ask.

The steins gate movie is canon as it was based off a visual novel not manga idk abt your questions though I’m so confused after reading that.
May 21, 2022 6:30 AM
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Ichigo_Uzumaki57 said:
NaughtySempai said:
i have completed S;G 0
ques1. what u guys were talking about when u say they gonna show milkyway or something?

ques2. plot holes- the whole story was based on beta worldline then how hashida(daru) know knowledge of building time leap machine and he even said that around 15th or 16th episode that "okabe has scraped off both phone micro wave and time leap machine " since okabe(of alpha WL) used dmail to undo first dmail that make him jump to beta world line and it means in beta WL they not even build the phone microwave which sends d-mail so there's no way they can build time leap machine also they would need kurisu to build it and in beta worldline no one knows it .....and daru was talking like okabe had destroyed both devices in front of him when it's not possible for both devices to even exist in first place in beta world line and i dont think daru can talk and build things just because okabe have told about his worldline travel..

ques 3. some one was saying that different worldline exists but parallel world line didnt but in the last episode we saw that the okabe of beta world line sends dmail to his past self who actually succeed in entering S;G world line and future okabe goes to find mayuri and suzuha ...so since saving kruisu by past self which lead to different worldline and saving mayuri by current world line okabe both being in different line simultaneously proves that parallel WL exists.....

ques4. so what happends after okabe save mayuri and suzuha since they were able to motivate past okabe to save kurisu but they still are in beta WL ..what happened to them

QUES5. important one
some VN readers were talking about NAE(daughter of mr. Braun) using time leap machine to go in past i.e. in her Loli Body and killing Mayuri to take revenge
(i.e in OG S;G alpha World line where Mr. braun kills himself)
so is that true
i remember watching steins;gate moive lord deja vu in which okabe having deva vu of other world lines and in one of them there was a seen showned in which NAE Killed MAYURI . …but movie was non canon and VN came in 2018 so both are same?

my english is not good i hope u got what i wanted to ask.

The steins gate movie is canon as it was based off a visual novel not manga idk abt your questions though I’m so confused after reading that.

The Steins;Gate movie is not canon. This was just a reference.
May 21, 2022 6:32 AM
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Nitroade24h said:
Ichigo_Uzumaki57 said:

The steins gate movie is canon as it was based off a visual novel not manga idk abt your questions though I’m so confused after reading that.

The Steins;Gate movie is not canon. This was just a reference.

Idk I’m pretty sure it is canon, how can tell it there’s no manga
May 21, 2022 8:33 AM
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NaughtySempai said:
i have completed S;G 0
ques1. what u guys were talking about when u say they gonna show milkyway or something?

ques2. plot holes- the whole story was based on beta worldline then how hashida(daru) know knowledge of building time leap machine and he even said that around 15th or 16th episode that "okabe has scraped off both phone micro wave and time leap machine " since okabe(of alpha WL) used dmail to undo first dmail that make him jump to beta world line and it means in beta WL they not even build the phone microwave which sends d-mail so there's no way they can build time leap machine also they would need kurisu to build it and in beta worldline no one knows it .....and daru was talking like okabe had destroyed both devices in front of him when it's not possible for both devices to even exist in first place in beta world line and i dont think daru can talk and build things just because okabe have told about his worldline travel..

ques 3. some one was saying that different worldline exists but parallel world line didnt but in the last episode we saw that the okabe of beta world line sends dmail to his past self who actually succeed in entering S;G world line and future okabe goes to find mayuri and suzuha ...so since saving kruisu by past self which lead to different worldline and saving mayuri by current world line okabe both being in different line simultaneously proves that parallel WL exists.....

ques4. so what happends after okabe save mayuri and suzuha since they were able to motivate past okabe to save kurisu but they still are in beta WL ..what happened to them

QUES5. important one
some VN readers were talking about NAE(daughter of mr. Braun) using time leap machine to go in past i.e. in her Loli Body and killing Mayuri to take revenge
(i.e in OG S;G alpha World line where Mr. braun kills himself)
so is that true
i remember watching steins;gate moive lord deja vu in which okabe having deva vu of other world lines and in one of them there was a seen showned in which NAE Killed MAYURI . …but movie was non canon and VN came in 2018 so both are same?

my english is not good i hope u got what i wanted to ask.

I haven't read the Steins;Gate 0 VN yet but I'll try to answer what I can.

Q2 - I can't say about the time leap machine but isn't it obvious that Daru knows about Phone Microwave? It definitely exists and was created at the same time in both worldline if I'm not wrong. In fact, the only reason that Okabe jumps into the Alpha worldline in the first place is because he sends a DMail (in first episode of S;G).

Q5 - Nae does leap back in time using the time leap machine. It's an event that's exclusive to the VNs. In the anime, there's no mention of her future and what she does in the said future.

Spoilers for the Steins;Gate VN -

May 21, 2022 9:43 AM
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Ichigo_Uzumaki57 said:

The steins gate movie is canon as it was based off a visual novel not manga idk abt your questions though I’m so confused after reading that.


No, it's not canon. The movie is not based on any visual novel and has nothing to do with the original authors. It's White Fox own original take on S;G.

You can tell that it is non-canon that its events are ignored by every canon material in the Science Adventure series.
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May 21, 2022 9:54 AM
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1. The true ending chapter of Steins;Gate 0 is called Milky-Way Crossing.

2. The PhoneWave was built in the Beta worldline as well. If you remember, in the beginning of Steins;Gate Okabe accidentally sends a D-Mail... that is only possible if the PhoneWave was built. Okabe destroyed it when he arrived back from Alpha

3. No. There are no parallel worlds. I already showed you the tip from the VN itself.
Also, we did not see that Okabe sent the message. He just recorded it and it will be sent after he sent Suzuha and Mayuri back (this was explicitely stated by Luka in the anime btw)

4. It's not explained and it doesn't matter, since the worldline will cease to exist if Okabe reaches Steins Gate.

5. You are confusing something. The VN came in 2009, not in 2018. The anime adaptation came in 2011, then them movie came in 2013.

In the VN, Nae time leaps from 2025 to kill Moeka because she thinks that Moeka and Okabe caused his death. She also tells Okabe that she killed him in 2025.
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May 21, 2022 11:15 AM
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Since all the OP's question was answered, I will throw another question here:

Question 6: When the time machine traveled thousands of years to the past, shouldn't that have triggered a massive Reading Steiner on Okabe? I'm saying this because having a time machine thousands of years in the past should have caused a massive butterfly effect unless I'm wrong about it.

And here's a food for thought, if you really think about it, this will make it even sadder:

When Suzuha and Mayushi traveled thousands of years to the past in the time machine then in the present (the same moment the time machine left) thousands of years already passed, which means, Suzuha and Mayushi already died the moment they traveled thousands of years to the past, they died from hunger and thirst, they probably regretted that decision.

Of course, in the end, Okabe goes back to save them but that doesn't change the fact that thousands of years already passed the moment they travelled to the past so they already died, Okabe is simply saving another "version" of them, their original version already died.
xZabuzaxMay 21, 2022 12:56 PM
May 21, 2022 11:44 AM

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SciADV_Maniac said:
1. The true ending chapter of Steins;Gate 0 is called Milky-Way Crossing.

5. You are confusing something. The VN came in 2009, not in 2018. The anime adaptation came in 2011, then them movie came in 2013.

In the VN, Nae time leaps from 2025 to kill Moeka because she thinks that Moeka and Okabe caused his death. She also tells Okabe that she killed him in 2025.

ohh can u explain what this ending people were talking and they saying that anime didnt adapted milky way chapter?

ohh yeah now i rewatched movie i get it she was killing moeka i mistook her for mayuri


May 21, 2022 1:00 PM

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NaughtySempai said:

ohh can u explain what this ending people were talking and they saying that anime didnt adapted milky way chapter?




The anime adpated Milky Way crossing. That is actually the only part of 0 anime which is considered as an adaptation (it is actually sort of an expansion of the VN).

xZabuzax said:
Since all the OP's question was answered, I will throw another question here:

Question 6: When the time machine traveled thousands of years to the past, shouldn't that have triggered a massive Reading Steiner on Okabe? I'm saying this because having a time machine thousands of years in the past should have caused a massive butterfly effect unless I'm wrong about it.

And here's a food for thought, if you really think about it, this will make it even sadder:

When Suzuha and Mayushi traveled thousands of years to the past in the time machine then in the present (the same moment the time machine left) thousands of years already passed, which means, Suzuha and Mayushi already died the moment they traveled thousands of years to the past, they died from hunger and thirst, they probably regretted that decision.

Of course, in the end, Okabe goes back to save them but that doesn't change the fact that thousands of years already passed the moment they travelled to the past so they already died, Okabe is simply saving another "version" of them, their original version already died.


Well the butterfly effect was never really taken strictly in Steins;Gate. Based on chaos theory, even the experimental D-Mails which didn't cause Reading Steiner should have cause massive changes.

And yes, that is the case with Suzuha and Mayuri. On many previous worldlines, they starved to death.
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May 21, 2022 1:09 PM
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SciADV_Maniac said:
NaughtySempai said:

ohh can u explain what this ending people were talking and they saying that anime didnt adapted milky way chapter?




The anime adpated Milky Way crossing. That is actually the only part of 0 anime which is considered as an adaptation (it is actually sort of an expansion of the VN).

xZabuzax said:
Since all the OP's question was answered, I will throw another question here:

Question 6: When the time machine traveled thousands of years to the past, shouldn't that have triggered a massive Reading Steiner on Okabe? I'm saying this because having a time machine thousands of years in the past should have caused a massive butterfly effect unless I'm wrong about it.

And here's a food for thought, if you really think about it, this will make it even sadder:

When Suzuha and Mayushi traveled thousands of years to the past in the time machine then in the present (the same moment the time machine left) thousands of years already passed, which means, Suzuha and Mayushi already died the moment they traveled thousands of years to the past, they died from hunger and thirst, they probably regretted that decision.

Of course, in the end, Okabe goes back to save them but that doesn't change the fact that thousands of years already passed the moment they travelled to the past so they already died, Okabe is simply saving another "version" of them, their original version already died.


Well the butterfly effect was never really taken strictly in Steins;Gate. Based on chaos theory, even the experimental D-Mails which didn't cause Reading Steiner should have cause massive changes.

And yes, that is the case with Suzuha and Mayuri. On many previous worldlines, they starved to death.

Alright, thank you mate, your answers never disappoint!
May 21, 2022 10:38 PM

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PikaboyTK said:
NaughtySempai said:
i have completed S;G 0
ques1. what u guys were talking about when u say they gonna show milkyway or something?

ques2. plot holes- the whole story was based on beta worldline then how hashida(daru) know knowledge of building time leap machine and he even said that around 15th or 16th episode that "okabe has scraped off both phone micro wave and time leap machine " since okabe(of alpha WL) used dmail to undo first dmail that make him jump to beta world line and it means in beta WL they not even build the phone microwave which sends d-mail so there's no way they can build time leap machine also they would need kurisu to build it and in beta worldline no one knows it .....and daru was talking like okabe had destroyed both devices in front of him when it's not possible for both devices to even exist in first place in beta world line and i dont think daru can talk and build things just because okabe have told about his worldline travel..

ques 3. some one was saying that different worldline exists but parallel world line didnt but in the last episode we saw that the okabe of beta world line sends dmail to his past self who actually succeed in entering S;G world line and future okabe goes to find mayuri and suzuha ...so since saving kruisu by past self which lead to different worldline and saving mayuri by current world line okabe both being in different line simultaneously proves that parallel WL exists.....

ques4. so what happends after okabe save mayuri and suzuha since they were able to motivate past okabe to save kurisu but they still are in beta WL ..what happened to them

QUES5. important one
some VN readers were talking about NAE(daughter of mr. Braun) using time leap machine to go in past i.e. in her Loli Body and killing Mayuri to take revenge
(i.e in OG S;G alpha World line where Mr. braun kills himself)
so is that true
i remember watching steins;gate moive lord deja vu in which okabe having deva vu of other world lines and in one of them there was a seen showned in which NAE Killed MAYURI . …but movie was non canon and VN came in 2018 so both are same?

my english is not good i hope u got what i wanted to ask.

I haven't read the Steins;Gate 0 VN yet but I'll try to answer what I can.

Q2 - I can't say about the time leap machine but isn't it obvious that Daru knows about Phone Microwave? It definitely exists and was created at the same time in both worldline if I'm not wrong. In fact, the only reason that Okabe jumps into the Alpha worldline in the first place is because he sends a DMail (in first episode of S;G).

Q5 - Nae does leap back in time using the time leap machine. It's an event that's exclusive to the VNs. In the anime, there's no mention of her future and what she does in the said future.

Spoilers for the Steins;Gate VN -


well yeah we can say that phone microwave existed but main thing was how daru know how to build time leap machine and seeing how depressed and sad okabe was i dont think okabe has told him it's working.
as even in alpha world line only with the help of kurisu they were able to build time leap machine but here in beta WL there was neither kurisu nor actual working knowledge to daru(i.e memories)
May 21, 2022 10:49 PM

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NaughtySempai said:
PikaboyTK said:

I haven't read the Steins;Gate 0 VN yet but I'll try to answer what I can.

Q2 - I can't say about the time leap machine but isn't it obvious that Daru knows about Phone Microwave? It definitely exists and was created at the same time in both worldline if I'm not wrong. In fact, the only reason that Okabe jumps into the Alpha worldline in the first place is because he sends a DMail (in first episode of S;G).

Q5 - Nae does leap back in time using the time leap machine. It's an event that's exclusive to the VNs. In the anime, there's no mention of her future and what she does in the said future.

Spoilers for the Steins;Gate VN -


well yeah we can say that phone microwave existed but main thing was how daru know how to build time leap machine and seeing how depressed and sad okabe was i dont think okabe has told him it's working.
as even in alpha world line only with the help of kurisu they were able to build time leap machine but here in beta WL there was neither kurisu nor actual working knowledge to daru(i.e memories)

I don't get why you doubt Daru's intelligence and capability to make the time leap machine. In fact, he is the one who makes the time machines in the future so it's definitely possible for him to make the time leap machine. Besides, Maho helped him in making the time leap machine using Kurisu's theories. So it's not like he did it alone.
May 22, 2022 12:26 AM

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NaughtySempai said:
PikaboyTK said:

I haven't read the Steins;Gate 0 VN yet but I'll try to answer what I can.

Q2 - I can't say about the time leap machine but isn't it obvious that Daru knows about Phone Microwave? It definitely exists and was created at the same time in both worldline if I'm not wrong. In fact, the only reason that Okabe jumps into the Alpha worldline in the first place is because he sends a DMail (in first episode of S;G).

Q5 - Nae does leap back in time using the time leap machine. It's an event that's exclusive to the VNs. In the anime, there's no mention of her future and what she does in the said future.

Spoilers for the Steins;Gate VN -


well yeah we can say that phone microwave existed but main thing was how daru know how to build time leap machine and seeing how depressed and sad okabe was i dont think okabe has told him it's working.
as even in alpha world line only with the help of kurisu they were able to build time leap machine but here in beta WL there was neither kurisu nor actual working knowledge to daru(i.e memories)


I can't see the problem. What you need for a time leap machine is 3 things:

1. The PhoneWave
2. A VR headset to read and convert memories into data
3. A way to compress the memories

Daru built the PhoneWave once, he can do it again. Maho is an expert in digitizing human memories, just like Kurisu, so 2nd point is also given. They were stuck here until the third one was told them by Okabe
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May 22, 2022 6:59 AM

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SciADV_Maniac said:
NaughtySempai said:

well yeah we can say that phone microwave existed but main thing was how daru know how to build time leap machine and seeing how depressed and sad okabe was i dont think okabe has told him it's working.
as even in alpha world line only with the help of kurisu they were able to build time leap machine but here in beta WL there was neither kurisu nor actual working knowledge to daru(i.e memories)


I can't see the problem. What you need for a time leap machine is 3 things:

1. The PhoneWave
2. A VR headset to read and convert memories into data
3. A way to compress the memories

Daru built the PhoneWave once, he can do it again. Maho is an expert in digitizing human memories, just like Kurisu, so 2nd point is also given. They were stuck here until the third one was told them by Okabe

its okay
ig i cant express properly what i wanted to ask
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