Zeke is the Main Antagonist of Snk(not eren)

nishant0 said:
idk What explaintion makes Eren as Antagonist.
Let me expalin who do you call protagnist and who is antagonist.
The protagonist makes key decisions that affect the plot, primarily influencing the story and propelling it forward and is often the character who faces the most significant obstacles and you cant make protagnist(eren) an antagonist if you change your perspective toward the ones who opposes(rainer or marley) protgnst. because these terms are in refrence to the audince not in refrence to the character of the series and yes calling eren villain acc. to rainer perspective is correct but calling eren antagonist acc. to rainer or marley perspective doesnt make sence at all

Adampk said:
I have replied this in a previous thread also.

False protagonist or decoy protagonist is a troupe know since ages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_protagonist#:~:text=In%20fiction%2C%20a%20false%20protagonist,later%20revealed%20not%20to%20be.

Adampk said:
I have replied this in a previous thread also.

False protagonist or decoy protagonist is a troupe know since ages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_protagonist#:~:text=In%20fiction%2C%20a%20false%20protagonist,later%20revealed%20not%20to%20be.

MAQS said:


I mean yes that would have applied to Eren... had he died in ep 5 of S1 though...


The story still revolves around him the most like in the beginning, the only diference is for dramatic porpuses we are not seeing his thoughts for the moment, becuase again dramatic porpuses.

Edit - @nishant0 false protagonist not only characters who are set up to killed early but also characters who become less significant or become/revealed to be antagonist etc

Hunted said:
he’s probably also considered an antagonist also because

nishant0 said:
That much is understandable man from False protagonist I don’t get it why you mentioned false protagonist that’s not even the point of discussion

MAQS said:


I mean yes that would have applied to Eren... had he died in ep 5 of S1 though...


The story still revolves around him the most like in the beginning, the only diference is for dramatic porpuses we are not seeing his thoughts for the moment, becuase again dramatic porpuses.

Adampk said:

U op starts with "dk What explaintion makes Eren as Antagonist"

That is basically how eren is both protagonist and antagonist. Which is the point of the discussion, isnt it?

Kelly32723 said:

No I feel like he also became an antagonist from the time skip on since they started showing the story mainly from different people’s points of view instead of Eren’s. Especially

Adampk said:

Just check the tekken eg in the page. It not very common for decoy protagonist to be played as villan role is probably why u think that way. But i think u will find that kind of eg more in american tv series rather than anime.
A good eg of decoy protagonist (who are actual antagonist) which i know is movie A Perfect Getaway (2009)

Edit - @nishant0 false protagonist not only characters who are set up to killed early but also characters who become less significant or become/revealed to be antagonist etc

nishant0 said:
What did I asked you….. ?

@Adampk Edit-eren is protagonist and antagonist
Is eren a god?

MAQS said:


Examples of what I mean

Death note.

Adampk said:

I am not sure. Are u trolling?


I mean i get why u would think of death note. Though the difference between the two is audience are not tricked which is the point of decoy

MAQS said:


I think we are tlaking different things.

My point is Eren IS the protagonist Just like Light was Death note protagonist, it doesnt matter if you are the viallin or hero you can still be the protagonist of the story.

When I meant that Eren could have been a false protagonist I used the example of ep 5 S1 becuase that would have been the first chance for the story to take him in that direction, the second was having Historia Eat him I guess. But it never happened, he has kept being the protagonist the story revolves around him mostly.

MAQS said:


They literally did not have any of the chapters post ch 90 to be his POV beside ch 131 and ch 139

That does not stop making him the protagonist because he is still the connecting tissue between the story from beginning to end, even when all other characters from Paradis Like MIkasa and Armin were mostly absent in Marley he was there from the beginning, even when the characters from Marley like Reiner stopped appearing in these eps before this battle he was still present and the most important character were all others revolved around.

StardustCursader said:
@nishant0 nishant bhai setting kra de pls

Soul_Viper said:

Wtf 😂😂😂

Gengenpresser said:
Nah not really. AOT is similar to Dune messiah were there are no actual antagonist and has some some characters who opposes the protagonist.