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Oct 1, 2021 2:46 AM
#1
I love the show(One of my top 10) and i already knew the 2 mains were going to be a couple and i was looking forward to how(ANd i do like BL). however till now i cant really find a solid reason to why Lan Wanji Likes Wei Wuxian to the point he was ready to take such huge risks or why they like each other? What was it that made them soulmates?Other then the fact that lan wanji thought wei to be a kind individual and was effected by his kindness, humbleness and his behaviour was something that really made him fall for him. Or Maybe I missed something really important(I havent rewatched the series soo)... I will be very thankful if any one can clear this out because this is the only thing I am actually confused about till now |
Oct 1, 2021 3:25 AM
#2
Well I have completed the first 2 season and just started the 3 one so I don't think I can explain😅. |
Oct 1, 2021 4:58 AM
#3
love is inexplicable, a great example is good people who fall in love with Cruel people for no apparent reason. they just love each other. Sorry for the bad English. |
Oct 1, 2021 5:10 AM
#4
Keep in mind that this series is Censored and a lot of stuff is left out from the Novel. But even in the Novel the story is told through WWX’s perspective which is why at first it may seem like LWJ doesn’t like him. LWJ is pretty much is attracted to WWX right from the start. It’s never explicitly stated but there are a lot of context clues. Why did he fall for him. Well even though most people would say how perfect, respectful and dignified LWJ was they would be afraid of him & keep their distance.But here was WWX this cheerful boy who did the exact opposite he never let LWJ alone. He teased him mercilessly (something that LWJ’s mother also used to do). He made him angry. He made him feel. But LWJ was also a teenage boy grappling with his feelings. WWX was someone who went against what he was taught as “good” and not to mention he thought WWX didn’t like him him like that so he acts disdainful. But as the years go by he sees WWX’s pure heart and falls for him even more. At first he is still unsure because of the Demonic Cultivation but eventually realizes the stuff everyone is saying about WWX is not true and WWX is still a pure and moral person. It’s just in WWX’s first life he doesn’t do enough to show he cares and believes in WWX because again of concerns about WWX’s demonic cultivation and also because of filial duty that if he sides with WWX it could hurt his Clan and also that he doesn’t think WWX wants him. “I want to take someone back to Gusu and hide him away but he isn’t willing” I won’t spoil too much but LWJ eventually does change his mind about this but it’s too late he can no longer reach WWX. However when WWX suddenly returns it’s been 13 years of mourning and regrets. LWJ is different. He fully accepts his love for WWX and that he will protect and keep WWX safe even if WWX never return his feelings even if the whole world is against WWX he will stay by WWX side this time and believe in him. If you want more of the romance aspect I definitely recommend reading the Novel. |
kirarakimOct 1, 2021 5:42 AM
Oct 1, 2021 5:18 AM
#5
234Mannan said: I love the show(One of my top 10) and i already knew the 2 mains were going to be a couple and i was looking forward to how(ANd i do like BL). however till now i cant really find a solid reason to why Lan Wanji Likes Wei Wuxian to the point he was ready to take such huge risks or why they like each other? What was it that made them soulmates?Other then the fact that lan wanji thought wei to be a kind individual and was effected by his kindness, humbleness and his behaviour was something that really made him fall for him. Or Maybe I missed something really important(I havent rewatched the series soo)... I will be very thankful if any one can clear this out because this is the only thing I am actually confused about till now H.E.A.D.B.A.N.D. Also you don't really need to explain feelings for one another, it just happens ^^ |
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Oct 1, 2021 5:21 AM
#6
kirarakim said: Keep in mind that this series is Censored and a lot of stuff is left out from the Novel. But even in the Novel the story is told through WWX’s perspective which is why at first it may seem like LWJ doesn’t like him. LWJ pretty much is attracted to WWX right from the start. It’s never explicitly stated but there are a lot of context clues. Why did he fall for him. Well even though most people would say how perfect, respectful and dignified LWJ was they would be afraid of him & keep their distance.But here was WWX this cheerful boy who did the exact opposite he never let LWJ alone. He teased him mercilessly (something that LWJ’s mother also used to do). He made him angry. He made him feel. But LWJ was also a teenage boy grappling with his feelings. WWX was someone who went against what he was taught as “good” and not to mention he thought WWX didn’t like him him like that so he acts disdainful. But as the years go by he sees WWX’s pure heart and falls for him even more. At first he is still unsure because of the Demonic Cultivation but eventually realizes the stuff everyone is saying about WWX is not true and WWX is still a pure and moral person. It’s just in WWX’s first life he doesn’t do enough to show he cares and believes in WWX because again of concerns about WWX’s demonic cultivation and also because of filial duty that if he sides with WWX it could hurt his Clan and also that he doesn’t think WWX wants him. “I want to take someone back to Gusu and hide him away but he isn’t willing” I won’t spoil too much but LWJ eventually does change his mind about this but it’s too late he can no longer reach WWX. However when WWX suddenly returns it’s been 13 years of mourning and regrets. LWJ is different. He fully accepts his love for WWX and that he will protect and keep WWX safe even if WWX never return his feelings even if the whole world is against WWX he will stay by WWX side this time and believe in him. If you want more of the romance aspect I definitely recommend reading the Novel. This one pretty much sums it up And dang it just hit me in the feels 😭 Lan Wangi is p r e c i o u s |
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Oct 1, 2021 8:14 AM
#7
The novel was written from WWX perspective, and Wangji’s true feelings also need to be peeled off, understood, and ultimately put together. Wangji’s personality is introduced very slowly throughout the novel. Wangji initially became interested WWX because it reminds him of his mother and is the complete opposite of him. Wangji grew up in a strict upbringing, always following the rules, while WWX is a free-spirited young man who follows his own ideas, not the rules. That's why he noticed Wuxian. Then as he sees more and more of the WWX, he realizes that if he is often a clown, they are similar in many ways. Like their worldview. Wangji realized before the death of the WWX that he loved him, but he denied this until the events before the death of the WWX. As in episode 8, after Jin Ling stabbed WWX, there was a flashback where Wangji gave him strength. Well, if I hadn’t read the novel, I would have thought it was happening in the present, but it was in the past after Shijie died and Wangji escaped WWX, it was a scene a few days before WWX died when WWX was already starting to go crazy. Wangji was already in love with him and accepted, but it was too late, he couldn't help him, and after WWX's death, he really felt lacking, the wasted time he wasted denying his feelings, but now that Wangji got it back, he tries to take every opportunity to stand by him, even in confrontation with others because of it, even if he thinks his emotions will never find reciprocity. But in order for the viewer to fully understand the depth and formation of their relationship, it is worth reading the novel, which is explained in much more detail. Once the viewer has read the novel and re-watched the donghua, he will notice many such small things he will see from a different perspective than before reading the novel. There are many small details scattered in the scenes that only the people who read the novel understand. Sorry for the bad English :( |
Gingike30Oct 1, 2021 8:22 AM
Oct 1, 2021 3:58 PM
#8
kirarakim said: Oh that sums it up pretty well! THank you so much for the explanation I really needed one. So Lan Wanji was attracted to his humbleness and kindness as a whole which he didnt felt after his mother passed awayKeep in mind that this series is Censored and a lot of stuff is left out from the Novel. But even in the Novel the story is told through WWX’s perspective which is why at first it may seem like LWJ doesn’t like him. LWJ is pretty much is attracted to WWX right from the start. It’s never explicitly stated but there are a lot of context clues. Why did he fall for him. Well even though most people would say how perfect, respectful and dignified LWJ was they would be afraid of him & keep their distance.But here was WWX this cheerful boy who did the exact opposite he never let LWJ alone. He teased him mercilessly (something that LWJ’s mother also used to do). He made him angry. He made him feel. But LWJ was also a teenage boy grappling with his feelings. WWX was someone who went against what he was taught as “good” and not to mention he thought WWX didn’t like him him like that so he acts disdainful. But as the years go by he sees WWX’s pure heart and falls for him even more. At first he is still unsure because of the Demonic Cultivation but eventually realizes the stuff everyone is saying about WWX is not true and WWX is still a pure and moral person. It’s just in WWX’s first life he doesn’t do enough to show he cares and believes in WWX because again of concerns about WWX’s demonic cultivation and also because of filial duty that if he sides with WWX it could hurt his Clan and also that he doesn’t think WWX wants him. “I want to take someone back to Gusu and hide him away but he isn’t willing” I won’t spoil too much but LWJ eventually does change his mind about this but it’s too late he can no longer reach WWX. However when WWX suddenly returns it’s been 13 years of mourning and regrets. LWJ is different. He fully accepts his love for WWX and that he will protect and keep WWX safe even if WWX never return his feelings even if the whole world is against WWX he will stay by WWX side this time and believe in him. If you want more of the romance aspect I definitely recommend reading the Novel. |
Oct 1, 2021 4:00 PM
#9
Gingike30 said: Thanks. Oh I did had my doubts regarding that scene being in the present as well. Now its cleared up as too(YEET). And again this explanation helps quite a bit as well. The novel was written from WWX perspective, and Wangji’s true feelings also need to be peeled off, understood, and ultimately put together. Wangji’s personality is introduced very slowly throughout the novel. Wangji initially became interested WWX because it reminds him of his mother and is the complete opposite of him. Wangji grew up in a strict upbringing, always following the rules, while WWX is a free-spirited young man who follows his own ideas, not the rules. That's why he noticed Wuxian. Then as he sees more and more of the WWX, he realizes that if he is often a clown, they are similar in many ways. Like their worldview. Wangji realized before the death of the WWX that he loved him, but he denied this until the events before the death of the WWX. As in episode 8, after Jin Ling stabbed WWX, there was a flashback where Wangji gave him strength. Well, if I hadn’t read the novel, I would have thought it was happening in the present, but it was in the past after Shijie died and Wangji escaped WWX, it was a scene a few days before WWX died when WWX was already starting to go crazy. Wangji was already in love with him and accepted, but it was too late, he couldn't help him, and after WWX's death, he really felt lacking, the wasted time he wasted denying his feelings, but now that Wangji got it back, he tries to take every opportunity to stand by him, even in confrontation with others because of it, even if he thinks his emotions will never find reciprocity. But in order for the viewer to fully understand the depth and formation of their relationship, it is worth reading the novel, which is explained in much more detail. Once the viewer has read the novel and re-watched the donghua, he will notice many such small things he will see from a different perspective than before reading the novel. There are many small details scattered in the scenes that only the people who read the novel understand. Sorry for the bad English :( |
Oct 2, 2021 3:13 AM
#10
It happened naturally without any exact solid reason or action. I personally believe it's due to WWX (Wei Wuxian) insisting on hanging around him so much while all his peers feared LWJ (Lan Wangji). LWJ is heavly introverted and it's stated he never even had friends. WWX also has a very flirty personality. Author never gives us the exact time when they fell in love however LWJ already wrote their song, Wangxian, when they were in the caves in Xuanwu. There's a fanon theory that WWX is like LWJ's mother in behaviour whom he loved dearly, but we aren't ever given exact info about her. So it's fanon. |
Oct 2, 2021 5:58 AM
#11
I think each of them finds in the other something they lack themselves, hence the mutual interest and attraction. They complete each other, they are are rounded off by each other. |
Oct 9, 2021 5:03 AM
#12
Why do people keep mentioning LWJ's mother though...ya all making him sound as if he had an Oedipus complex 😭 There is nothing about that in the canon. We just know, that WWX is like his own mother. And more than being opposites, it's always been hinted that they are in fact very similar, even if it may not seem like it from the first glance. Their ideals, things they believe in...who they are on the inside, it's all the same. |
Oct 9, 2021 12:06 PM
#13
agreed it has nothing to do with LWJ's mother. LWJ is attracted to WWX's free but righteous spirit and his willingness to do what was right even if it caused him suffering. WWX is attracted to LWJ's devotion and empathetic soul. |
Oct 9, 2021 2:04 PM
#14
Black_wind said: Why do people keep mentioning LWJ's mother though...ya all making him sound as if he had an Oedipus complex 😭 There is nothing about that in the canon. We just know, that WWX is like his own mother. And more than being opposites, it's always been hinted that they are in fact very similar, even if it may not seem like it from the first glance. Their ideals, things they believe in...who they are on the inside, it's all the same. It is in the canon. LXC describes that his mother would always tease LWJ and this would make him clam up but he actually really enjoyed being with her the few times he got to see her. WWX also always teases him when they first meet. I am also not saying he ONLY likes WWX because he may have reminded him of that specific trait of his mother (that also doesn’t mean he has an Oedipus Complex) but it explains the initial attraction. He is attracted to WWX pretty early on before he knows much about him. Anyways I suggest people read the novel again if you think MXTX just mentioned his mother teasing him randomly. It’s meant to be a parallel there are many in the novel. And the novel never outright says a lot of stuff you have to infer from the text. I also mentioned that he falls for WWX’s noble heart but that doesn’t mean there was more than one thing that started him developing feelings for WWX. And also I agree they are not really opposites and are more similar than they may first appear. Edit: Also want to add that WWX relationship with LWJ parallel’s both their parents relationship. LWJ’s father married his mother and locked her away after she killed one of his father’s teachers. He did this to protect her but I doubt she was happy with this arrangement. LWJ father also had fallen in love with Madam Lan at first sight and I believe it’s the same for LWJ’s feelings for WWX. LWJ also wants to lock away WWX to protect him but unlike his father he never ends up doing this because he never wants to force WWX. However in their second life WWX and LWJ’s relationship more closely resemble the relationship of WWX’s parents and LWJ leading him on the donkey brings back memories of his parents. WWX’s father is even described as preferring silence like LWJ. It’s a shame we don’t have a scene like this in the Donghua. |
kirarakimOct 9, 2021 3:44 PM
Nov 16, 2021 8:52 AM
#15
Nov 18, 2021 2:33 AM
#16
kirarakim said: Keep in mind that this series is Censored and a lot of stuff is left out from the Novel. But even in the Novel the story is told through WWX’s perspective which is why at first it may seem like LWJ doesn’t like him. LWJ is pretty much is attracted to WWX right from the start. It’s never explicitly stated but there are a lot of context clues. Why did he fall for him. Well even though most people would say how perfect, respectful and dignified LWJ was they would be afraid of him & keep their distance.But here was WWX this cheerful boy who did the exact opposite he never let LWJ alone. He teased him mercilessly (something that LWJ’s mother also used to do). He made him angry. He made him feel. But LWJ was also a teenage boy grappling with his feelings. WWX was someone who went against what he was taught as “good” and not to mention he thought WWX didn’t like him him like that so he acts disdainful. But as the years go by he sees WWX’s pure heart and falls for him even more. At first he is still unsure because of the Demonic Cultivation but eventually realizes the stuff everyone is saying about WWX is not true and WWX is still a pure and moral person. It’s just in WWX’s first life he doesn’t do enough to show he cares and believes in WWX because again of concerns about WWX’s demonic cultivation and also because of filial duty that if he sides with WWX it could hurt his Clan and also that he doesn’t think WWX wants him. “I want to take someone back to Gusu and hide him away but he isn’t willing” I won’t spoil too much but LWJ eventually does change his mind about this but it’s too late he can no longer reach WWX. However when WWX suddenly returns it’s been 13 years of mourning and regrets. LWJ is different. He fully accepts his love for WWX and that he will protect and keep WWX safe even if WWX never return his feelings even if the whole world is against WWX he will stay by WWX side this time and believe in him. If you want more of the romance aspect I definitely recommend reading the Novel. Wow you said it very well. This pretty much sums up |
Dec 18, 2021 3:55 PM
#17
re-watching Mo dao after first watching and finishing it about a week ago, knowing what i do now that i didn't do then, i am still curious of when things did start to happen, more or less, between the characters. -i have not read the chinese manga (manhua?) and i haven't read the original novel this is all based on. i am aware some of the events were moved around and/or altered a bit between the novel and the donghua, but even while watching it now, i am a bit uncertain of when they both more or less started to develop feelings for each other: i have the impression that Lan Zhan was the first one to decide he liked Wei Wuxian, since in episode 4 already, his older brother mentions he brought Wuxian along since Lan Zhan seemed like he wanted him to. -as i'm going from the context given through the animation, i would suspect Lan Zhan already developed some feelings for Wuxian during that month they were pretty much stuck together. -i can't say how much of it is due to the censorship, but i imagine he spent some time trying to figure out his feelings for Wuxian, since i can't figure out if it was something he realized or accepted right away, or if he needed some time to figure out what he really felt toward the mischievous troublemaker. i don't know if the novel details this in any way. -as for Wei Wuxian, however, even in the "present day" while he's in another body; in episode two since he's putting up an act as the lunatic his new body is rumored to be, he blurts out he (the lunatic kid) finds Lan Zhan attractive, and (in the subtitles i watched) he was convinced that would make both men disgusted with him and leave him alone. -it backfires since Lan Zhan already recognized WangXian when Wuxian played it to calm down Wen Ning, and Wuxian ends up being taken back to Lan Zhan's place. (saw in a comment on episode 2, that he doesn't say guzu, but apparently refers to his private home? nice detail). -in the present timeline, and that mainly of the 3rd season of the donghua, i'm 50/50 on Wuxian's attraction to Lan Zhan, and couldn't tell if he was just teasing throughout or not. -in the donghua, i don't have the impression Wuxian really view Lan Zhan as anything but irritated with him, up until a certain point when he realize Lan Zhan doesn't outright hate him. but it doesn't seem like he -actually- figure things out until he comes across his old notes and finally find out the meaning of that headband. -having read of some differences between the novel and the donghua, and knowing some events were tossed around in the donghua, while Lan Zhan seemed to become romantically attracted to Wuxian early on, i couldn't figure out when the same happened for Wei Wuxian. -was it something that happened early on, or was he completely ignorant of Lan Zhan's feelings for himself, up until very late in the story? like, 13 years after dying once-kind of very late _xD? -in the donghua, once Wuxian's been revived and Lan Zhan recognize him, early on it's pretty clear he's not willing to let Wuxian go again, nor come to harm if he can avoid it. -so did this poor dude have to wait over 20 years for the rascal he fell in love with, to finally show some romantic feelings toward him too? or is this progression any different in the novel? TL;DR: Did Lan Zhan have to wait over 20 years (and one death) for Wei Wuxian to reciprocate his feelings? |
Mar 7, 2022 7:01 AM
#18
Konani said: That Weiying dude is just so fcking dense. Thats all what I've to sayre-watching Mo dao after first watching and finishing it about a week ago, knowing what i do now that i didn't do then, i am still curious of when things did start to happen, more or less, between the characters. -i have not read the chinese manga (manhua?) and i haven't read the original novel this is all based on. i am aware some of the events were moved around and/or altered a bit between the novel and the donghua, but even while watching it now, i am a bit uncertain of when they both more or less started to develop feelings for each other: i have the impression that Lan Zhan was the first one to decide he liked Wei Wuxian, since in episode 4 already, his older brother mentions he brought Wuxian along since Lan Zhan seemed like he wanted him to. -as i'm going from the context given through the animation, i would suspect Lan Zhan already developed some feelings for Wuxian during that month they were pretty much stuck together. -i can't say how much of it is due to the censorship, but i imagine he spent some time trying to figure out his feelings for Wuxian, since i can't figure out if it was something he realized or accepted right away, or if he needed some time to figure out what he really felt toward the mischievous troublemaker. i don't know if the novel details this in any way. -as for Wei Wuxian, however, even in the "present day" while he's in another body; in episode two since he's putting up an act as the lunatic his new body is rumored to be, he blurts out he (the lunatic kid) finds Lan Zhan attractive, and (in the subtitles i watched) he was convinced that would make both men disgusted with him and leave him alone. -it backfires since Lan Zhan already recognized WangXian when Wuxian played it to calm down Wen Ning, and Wuxian ends up being taken back to Lan Zhan's place. (saw in a comment on episode 2, that he doesn't say guzu, but apparently refers to his private home? nice detail). -in the present timeline, and that mainly of the 3rd season of the donghua, i'm 50/50 on Wuxian's attraction to Lan Zhan, and couldn't tell if he was just teasing throughout or not. -in the donghua, i don't have the impression Wuxian really view Lan Zhan as anything but irritated with him, up until a certain point when he realize Lan Zhan doesn't outright hate him. but it doesn't seem like he -actually- figure things out until he comes across his old notes and finally find out the meaning of that headband. -having read of some differences between the novel and the donghua, and knowing some events were tossed around in the donghua, while Lan Zhan seemed to become romantically attracted to Wuxian early on, i couldn't figure out when the same happened for Wei Wuxian. -was it something that happened early on, or was he completely ignorant of Lan Zhan's feelings for himself, up until very late in the story? like, 13 years after dying once-kind of very late _xD? -in the donghua, once Wuxian's been revived and Lan Zhan recognize him, early on it's pretty clear he's not willing to let Wuxian go again, nor come to harm if he can avoid it. -so did this poor dude have to wait over 20 years for the rascal he fell in love with, to finally show some romantic feelings toward him too? or is this progression any different in the novel? TL;DR: Did Lan Zhan have to wait over 20 years (and one death) for Wei Wuxian to reciprocate his feelings? Need Lanzhan's brother to tell him that, then made him realized Lanzhan's feeling |
Jan 3, 2023 1:49 AM
#19
Reading all the comments here about how did LWJ realized his feelings for WWX and when, it makes my heart feel again all their pain and struggles on the past arcs. I can't. 😭 And I didn't noticed much abt Wei Ying being like Wangji 's mother lol. Little to unknown information are hinted both in the novel and the dongua. The only interaction they had in the dongua was her poking fun of Wangji. Also, it's obvious from the start guys! He has already a crush on my boy Wei Ying. 😂 They deserve each other and this is my first time to like a gay couple aside from Yuri and Viktor of Yuri on Ice. |
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