Didn't Floch do the exact same thing Hange did?

imbAF said:
Hange was against the previous government and she released the real news to the people. And for that fans praised her!

Floch does the same thing, he gives the real news to the people, because the current government doesn't do that, but apparently side character need to know his place?

Why this duality? Why do people watch AOT in such a tribal way?

P.s Floch = BOSS

imbAF said:
Hange was against the previous government and she released the real news to the people. And for that fans praised her!

Floch does the same thing, he gives the real news to the people, because the current government doesn't do that, but apparently side character need to know his place?

Why this duality? Why do people watch AOT in such a tribal way?

P.s Floch = BOSS

imbAF said:
Why do people watch AOT in such a tribal way?

GoZha said:
Hange has a plan in mind and Paradis in heart.

I_Am_Freeballing said:
I feel like a lot of people will like Floch as time moves on.

imbAF said:
Why do people watch AOT in such a tribal way?

P.s Floch = BOSS

BigBadonkerTrap said:


It seems that anime make him more likeable too by the way xD.

Sourire said:
I’ll bite, what’s Hange’s plan?

Spoiler: she has none.

I_Am_Freeballing said:
The anime makes all the characters more likeable IMO. the anime makes me feel more connected to the characters. I never really cared for characters like Pieck, Yelena, Onyankopon, Louise, etc. but the anime is doing a fantastic job bringing them to life.

BigBadonkerTrap said:


It seems that anime make him more likeable too by the way xD.

imbAF said:
Hange was against the previous government and she released the real news to the people. And for that fans praised her!

Floch does the same thing, he gives the real news to the people, because the current government doesn't do that, but apparently side character need to know his place?

Why this duality? Why do people watch AOT in such a tribal way?

P.s Floch = BOSS

Sourire said:
I’ll bite, what’s Hange’s plan?

Spoiler: she has none.

Canby said:


Hange's plan was to try and find a peaceful solution to ensure Paradis's future. You see this through what they did to the Marley scout ships and the efforts to make diplomatic ties with Hizuru and beyond. Yes it ultimately failed when Eren took things into his own hands but the difference between her and Floch is that she has a more positive and optimistic view of the outside world where Floch just sees everybody else as enemies who deserves to die like he explains when they attack Libero.
If it was down to people like Floch they would have just started killing the Marley scouts and civilians from day 1.

Canby said:


Hange's plan was to try and find a peaceful solution to ensure Paradis's future. You see this through what they did to the Marley scout ships and the efforts to make diplomatic ties with Hizuru and beyond. Yes it ultimately failed when Eren took things into his own hands but the difference between her and Floch is that she has a more positive and optimistic view of the outside world where Floch just sees everybody else as enemies who deserves to die like he explains when they attack Libero.
If it was down to people like Floch they would have just started killing the Marley scouts and civilians from day 1.

imbAF said:
Hange was against the previous government and she released the real news to the people. And for that fans praised her!

Floch does the same thing, he gives the real news to the people, because the current government doesn't do that, but apparently side character need to know his place?

Why this duality? Why do people watch AOT in such a tribal way?

P.s Floch = BOSS

Canby said:


Hange's plan was to try and find a peaceful solution to ensure Paradis's future. You see this through what they did to the Marley scout ships and the efforts to make diplomatic ties with Hizuru and beyond. Yes it ultimately failed when Eren took things into his own hands but the difference between her and Floch is that she has a more positive and optimistic view of the outside world where Floch just sees everybody else as enemies who deserves to die like he explains when they attack Libero.
If it was down to people like Floch they would have just started killing the Marley scouts and civilians from day 1.

thiago52192 said:
I'm usually defensive about all the characters being reasonable, and that wasn't different with Floch on S3P2, since he showed the objective flaws of the characters action about Erwin vs Armin decision. But I don't really agree with Floch's decision in this episode. Like Hange said, the situation has changed, and the consequences about revealing everything to the public are way different than it used to be. He also doesn't seem to be aiming for survival, but it does seems like he wants Eldia to oppress the rest of the world like in the past. If he does show up in the future that this isn't the case, then I will back him up.

Sourire said:
What peaceful solutions? Eren tried to find one before going to Liberio on his own and realized that there were none.

It ultimately failed even before Eren took things in his own hands and went to Liberio since Marley was already preparing an attack on Paradis at the time and not looking to negotiate or discuss with Paradis’ forces. And why is Hange optimistic? We’ve seen that the outside world wants to see Paradis perish and that all the Azumabito clan wants is to exploit Paradis’ ressources. Not really a positive outlook on the outside world.

Floch might be an outspoken nationalist, and an extremist to some, but he’s also a realist who will make sure that the island survives no matter what costs and sees that Eren presents the only viable solution after years of evaluating what would and wouldn’t be possible. Whereas the OG Scouts are delusional pacifists with no concept of time or ability to sense the danger coming.

Bengofo said:
Same reason people got mad when Gabi killed an enemy soldier but praising everyone else for doing the same thing

Hange has a plan in mind and Paradis in heart. The old royal government only cared about oppressing their own people

Canby said:


Hange's plan was to try and find a peaceful solution to ensure Paradis's future. You see this through what they did to the Marley scout ships and the efforts to make diplomatic ties with Hizuru and beyond. Yes it ultimately failed when Eren took things into his own hands but the difference between her and Floch is that she has a more positive and optimistic view of the outside world where Floch just sees everybody else as enemies who deserves to die like he explains when they attack Libero.
If it was down to people like Floch they would have just started killing the Marley scouts and civilians from day 1.

Canby said:


The peaceful solution was the diplomacy and nuclear deterrent option to give them time to catch up technologically with the outside world, so the Zeke/Hizuru option. We will never know whether that would have worked. Willys declaration was baiting Eren/Paradis to attack them so if they didn't attack Libero would the other nations have joined together? would a small scale rumbling have spooked everybody enough to think 'nah fuck this' ? we will never know.
And yes hizuru were exploiting them but that's how many diplomatic relations work. Both can still benefit.

But my point was that Hange (and most of the others) wanted to exhaust the non war options before anything else. Sure she failed but not wanting to immediately nuke your neighbors doesn't make you delusional.

Bengofo said:
Same reason people got mad when Gabi killed an enemy soldier but praising everyone else for doing the same thing

Hange has a plan in mind and Paradis in heart. The old royal government only cared about oppressing their own people

TATAKAE_ said:


okay speedwatcher, you blaim eren ruined hanges 'peaceplan' as if willy didn just declare war on paradis... stop with the simping for hange whos just delusional about the outside world

Jevasamy said:


The fact they get mad at gabi for killing of Sasha , but not at folch who is a yeargist ( since he is a eren Fanboy )

Jevasamy said:


The fandom is like toxic .. mind you.

Bengofo said:
fam idek wut dis argamin abt anymo 🤣🤣🤣 mi brane fel out mah hed wen snk end

Bengofo said:
ok based dats y im here i liv 4 dis shit