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Apr 12, 2020 6:57 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Everything about this episode makes me want to cry;; gosh;;; thank you TROYCA for doing such a good job with everyone's emotions.
Apr 12, 2020 9:40 AM
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Why all Trigger's commercials are so adult LOL but I love to watch that ;)
Apr 12, 2020 10:19 AM
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The i7 and TRIGGER beef continues to grow. I love the way drama is handled in this series. Tamaki was really cute (and it's funny how he's still traumatized by Sougo's actions previously lolol)

Also bless this shot of Ryuu in particular (๑♡3♡๑)


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Apr 12, 2020 11:14 AM
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Somehow I didn't feel it as heartbreaking as the original game. And I'm kind of sad they didn't animate this gem

Solid episode regardless.

Apr 12, 2020 2:01 PM
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OMG!!! That episode was fucking dope, love it <3 <3
Apr 12, 2020 3:13 PM
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This episode was very brutal on poor Riku. He always beats himself up whenever he thinks he has disappointed his bandmates and feels like the weight of the world has been placed on his shoulders. Aside from having to struggle with a medical condition, he also has to struggle with the expectations his band and his own brother have placed on him. It's a miracle the poor guy has taken it this far.

Watching Iori and Ten argue over him must have made him feel like a child whose parents are arguing about the way they are raising. No one looks good in this situation. Iori and Ten aren't being cruel or malicious towards Riku, at least not intentionally, but their expectations do not help his situation at all.

IDOLiSH7 is the anime that keeps on giving, excellent music and beautiful character moments included. Watching this show every week is always an incredible experience and I'm looking forward to see what happens next.
Apr 12, 2020 8:02 PM
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I agree with the manager's perspective. I want to cheer for Riku and root for him. He is a really earnest, and kindhearted guy. But at the same time, Riku is pushing himself too hard. I understand Tenn wants Riku to live up to the expectations of being an idol but his health is more important. It's sad to see Riku losing his center position. But it can't be helped. He needs time to recover from his illness, and losing his center position in the spotlight gives him more time to recuperate.
Apr 12, 2020 8:21 PM
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Wow, that Trigger scene when Riku turned on the TV 🥴
This episode was so good, some hands were going to be thrown
Seems like changing Riku from being center is a wise choice , though I do feel bad for him
Apr 12, 2020 8:34 PM
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TENN is a demon. I ranted to the fullest already elsewhere so i already let off some steam but i must state it again: TENN is a demon. I hate him and he will never be redeemed.

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WELL unless he kowtows in apology and admits he said/did those things without thinking properly and truly feels like he was wrong. The piece of shit.
Apr 13, 2020 4:33 AM

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The scenes of Tamaki-Sougo & Riku-Trigger's commercials were so cute-funny!

But wait, won't the center change affect Riku more? Like, he's so going to think it's his fault for not being good or doing well enough, alas, putting more stress & pressure on himself?
With or without a temporary solution, it's bound to not end on a happy note for Riku in this matter.

Also, I'm still unsure if Tenn cares for his twin or not...



Apr 13, 2020 5:16 AM

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I really liked this episode and I think it had so many good aspects (the music, animation and voice acting were all really great) but it pains me to see Iori mess up so much (like trying to fight Tenn and forgetting about Riku's feelings) since he's my favourite. Hopefully the centre change will give Riku some time to rest and recover, and will help Iori grow as a character too!
Apr 13, 2020 5:37 AM

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Poor Riku ;-;
I don't get why Tenn is so cruel
Accidentally morosexual™

Apr 15, 2020 1:19 AM
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Kujo Tenn? We Stan.
Apr 17, 2020 7:54 AM

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You all be hating on either Iori or tsumugi or especially Tenn.
But here i am in a huge emotional rollercoaster because they put a HUGE angst moment RIGHT AFTER a funny moment. LMAO :')

I'm shipping Gaku with Tsumugi so much lol. XD


I'm starting to get embarrassed by my own forum signature line.. XD
Apr 19, 2020 2:22 AM
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Inugirlz said:
TENN is a demon. I ranted to the fullest already elsewhere so i already let off some steam but i must state it again: TENN is a demon. I hate him and he will never be redeemed.

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WELL unless he kowtows in apology and admits he said/did those things without thinking properly and truly feels like he was wrong. The piece of shit.
You don't understand anything about his character, You are nothing but a blind hater So you don't have any right to say anything
Apr 19, 2020 9:09 AM

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Sayali567 said:
Inugirlz said:
TENN is a demon. I ranted to the fullest already elsewhere so i already let off some steam but i must state it again: TENN is a demon. I hate him and he will never be redeemed.

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WELL unless he kowtows in apology and admits he said/did those things without thinking properly and truly feels like he was wrong. The piece of shit.
You don't understand anything about his character, You are nothing but a blind hater So you don't have any right to say anything


I know what it means to be a good human being and he certainly is failing in that department. Nothing blind about what I see. As if I didn’t try to like him, but he really doesn’t deserve it. So don’t speak to me about being blind you fanboy/girl
Apr 19, 2020 1:30 PM
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riku be dying in this ep tho. i feel so bad for riku but he gotta chill with the idol stuff.
Apr 19, 2020 1:38 PM
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Inugirlz said:
Sayali567 said:
You don't understand anything about his character, You are nothing but a blind hater So you don't have any right to say anything


I know what it means to be a good human being and he certainly is failing in that department. Nothing blind about what I see. As if I didn’t try to like him, but he really doesn’t deserve it. So don’t speak to me about being blind you fanboy/girl
Nope you doesn't understand him at all, just what the heck do you even know? Yes I won't say that what he did was right, he can be harsh, Strict sometimes but he isn't a bad person at all, He does care about his brother, his friends,None of the boys in this anime are bad people, all of them have reasons why they behave in certain way, And instead of judging anyone I try to understand each one of them but You are 100% a hater, your opinion is completely biased and doesn't have any truth in it no matter what you say
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Sayali567 said:
Inugirlz said:


I know what it means to be a good human being and he certainly is failing in that department. Nothing blind about what I see. As if I didn’t try to like him, but he really doesn’t deserve it. So don’t speak to me about being blind you fanboy/girl
Nope you doesn't understand him at all, just what the heck do you even know? Yes I won't say that what he did was right, he can be harsh, Strict sometimes but he isn't a bad person at all, He does care about his brother, his friends,None of the boys in this anime are bad people, all of them have reasons why they behave in certain way, And instead of judging anyone I try to understand each one of them but You are 100% a hater, your opinion is completely biased and doesn't have any truth in it no matter what you say


Listen here, you angry little gremlin lol, I am no stranger to having a character that you love beyond grief. With these types of characters we defend their actions no matter what they do and rely on lame explanations for why they are the way they are.

But the fact of the matter is TENN is an asshole. We can label it as him being tsundere but that’s just a fluffy word we use for assholes. He pushes his ideals on to other people and doesn’t care how his words affects them. If they don’t like what he says he just considers them weak or unable to accept the truth (or his personal truth). Unless we learn that he was blackmailed into acting the way he’s been acting then there really is no excuse. U can consider his behaviour charming or whatever else makes you like him but objectively he is an asshole and his behaviour this episode was disgusting.

Don’t be blinded by your love for him. Accept what he is and love him all the same. Nothing wrong with liking villains (I’m not saying he’s a villain although he’s certainly playing the part) but don’t make excuses for them. Not even gonna reply to the “they’re all good people” silliness. Obviously. None of them are murders, this is an idol anime not Tokyo Ghoul. I watched the anime same as you, I am fully aware of his character, I’m just not gonna be suckered into excusing his behaviour. You don't even know what "100%" a hater even means. I think he's cute and a great singer, clearly that's not 100% hate. Anyway, good day. Good day.
Apr 21, 2020 11:37 AM

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Inugirlz said:
Sayali567 said:
Nope you doesn't understand him at all, just what the heck do you even know? Yes I won't say that what he did was right, he can be harsh, Strict sometimes but he isn't a bad person at all, He does care about his brother, his friends,None of the boys in this anime are bad people, all of them have reasons why they behave in certain way, And instead of judging anyone I try to understand each one of them but You are 100% a hater, your opinion is completely biased and doesn't have any truth in it no matter what you say


Listen here, you angry little gremlin lol, I am no stranger to having a character that you love beyond grief. With these types of characters we defend their actions no matter what they do and rely on lame explanations for why they are the way they are.

But the fact of the matter is TENN is an asshole. We can label it as him being tsundere but that’s just a fluffy word we use for assholes. He pushes his ideals on to other people and doesn’t care how his words affects them. If they don’t like what he says he just considers them weak or unable to accept the truth (or his personal truth). Unless we learn that he was blackmailed into acting the way he’s been acting then there really is no excuse. U can consider his behaviour charming or whatever else makes you like him but objectively he is an asshole and his behaviour this episode was disgusting.

Don’t be blinded by your love for him. Accept what he is and love him all the same. Nothing wrong with liking villains (I’m not saying he’s a villain although he’s certainly playing the part) but don’t make excuses for them. Not even gonna reply to the “they’re all good people” silliness. Obviously. None of them are murders, this is an idol anime not Tokyo Ghoul. I watched the anime same as you, I am fully aware of his character, I’m just not gonna be suckered into excusing his behaviour. You don't even know what "100%" a hater even means. I think he's cute and a great singer, clearly that's not 100% hate. Anyway, good day. Good day.


I have to agree with everything you said. I like Tenn, he truly is cute and I know that deep down he must love Riku, but his behavior isn't acceptable. That's not how you treat your family, no matter the intention. He openly humiliated Riku in front of many people. It doesn't matter if he has some good will behind it. It doesn't matter either if he has his own reason for doing it. Wrong is wrong. Riku already felt horrible himself, he's a very responsible guy and yet Tenn still accused him as using his illness to avoid his responsibility. Ugh, as much as I like him, you're right, he's an asshole for now.
Apr 28, 2020 6:11 PM

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Inugirlz said:
Sayali567 said:
Nope you doesn't understand him at all, just what the heck do you even know? Yes I won't say that what he did was right, he can be harsh, Strict sometimes but he isn't a bad person at all, He does care about his brother, his friends,None of the boys in this anime are bad people, all of them have reasons why they behave in certain way, And instead of judging anyone I try to understand each one of them but You are 100% a hater, your opinion is completely biased and doesn't have any truth in it no matter what you say


Listen here, you angry little gremlin lol, I am no stranger to having a character that you love beyond grief. With these types of characters we defend their actions no matter what they do and rely on lame explanations for why they are the way they are.

But the fact of the matter is TENN is an asshole. We can label it as him being tsundere but that’s just a fluffy word we use for assholes. He pushes his ideals on to other people and doesn’t care how his words affects them. If they don’t like what he says he just considers them weak or unable to accept the truth (or his personal truth). Unless we learn that he was blackmailed into acting the way he’s been acting then there really is no excuse. U can consider his behaviour charming or whatever else makes you like him but objectively he is an asshole and his behaviour this episode was disgusting.

Don’t be blinded by your love for him. Accept what he is and love him all the same. Nothing wrong with liking villains (I’m not saying he’s a villain although he’s certainly playing the part) but don’t make excuses for them. Not even gonna reply to the “they’re all good people” silliness. Obviously. None of them are murders, this is an idol anime not Tokyo Ghoul. I watched the anime same as you, I am fully aware of his character, I’m just not gonna be suckered into excusing his behaviour. You don't even know what "100%" a hater even means. I think he's cute and a great singer, clearly that's not 100% hate. Anyway, good day. Good day.


I agree with you wholeheartedly. I've been a fan of the game for years (read the main story + side content) and even till this day I can't stand Tenn. That moment in the episode is a perfect example of why his behavior and mentality just rubs me off in the wrong way. I know the expansion of his character development thus far, but even with all of that I can never condemn his actions towards Riku in the earlier parts of the story. He's just a downright jerk, you cannot deny that fact.

I am friends with people who like Tenn and they admit in legitimately liking that aspect of him. They are aware that individuals such as myself, dislike the living crap out of him. But at least they aren't trying to shove the idea that "he does no wrong" down our throats and accuse us of being "blind haters". There's a thing called preference? And we all have to understand that, rather than start a war just bc we don't like your favorite character y'know?

However, that is not to say that I am not aware of his "good" points. Like his devotion to being a perfect idol can be admirable to some and you can find his cold attitude "cute". By the end it boils down to personal taste. In which those "good" points are just not enough for me (and others) to like the dude.
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No!!! If Riku leaves the center, Idolish wont be the same!!! Tenn is really acting so mean. I thought this brother relationship was getting better!!!
May 16, 2021 11:51 PM
Iori was a dick for refusing to tell those guys about Riku's health problems. At least Tsumugi changed Riku as the center of the group... they were going to fail especially when the doctor said Riku's condition was going to get worse with the change of weather.
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Sep 6, 2021 9:53 AM
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Inugirlz said:
TENN is a demon. I ranted to the fullest already elsewhere so i already let off some steam but i must state it again: TENN is a demon. I hate him and he will never be redeemed.

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WELL unless he kowtows in apology and admits he said/did those things without thinking properly and truly feels like he was wrong. The piece of shit.
Agree with you, why does he has to be mean and insensitive to get a point across? Is everyone forgetting that he has a medical condition or you're just supposed to turn your brain off from thinking, I know there's no realism here but who tf would talk like that and none bats an eye. Also, didn't he ditch him, why does he care. Anime characters are so weird.
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Inugirlz said:
TENN is a demon. I ranted to the fullest already elsewhere so i already let off some steam but i must state it again: TENN is a demon. I hate him and he will never be redeemed.

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WELL unless he kowtows in apology and admits he said/did those things without thinking properly and truly feels like he was wrong. The piece of shit.
Where can I read this rant????? Lololo
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Poor Riku again. I feel so bad for him. And Tenn is such a big meanie.

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